Irish Alternative to Smudging or Saining - Cleansing & Purification in Ireland

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 54

  • @igoriouspitchpuckington1594
    @igoriouspitchpuckington1594 3 роки тому +23

    Wow, had to pause, phenomenal point you made here about something I've known and believed in but never knew how to speak of properly before: law and justice must work for the benefit of the entire community over any one individual regardless of social status. Just found your channel and I am blown away by the sheer amount of information and research that goes into each one.
    Thank you

  • @katbenu980
    @katbenu980 3 роки тому +17

    So awesome that you discussed the " brotherhood " of the native Americans nobody speaks on that!!

  • @galisgewi
    @galisgewi Рік тому +5

    I just listened to the smoke/pipe portion of the episode, ending around 40 minutes. It’s very exciting. We received our ritual pipe using tradition from the friendly folks, what we call ᎠᏂᏓᏪᎯ. I’m Cherokee. A first nation’s indigenous person living in the current state of Oklahoma. There is a lot in this episode that reminds me of our own traditions. It seems that if we have similar connections with the spirits then we would have traditions that share much in common, with or without contact from humans. ᏩᏙ!

  • @suzannebessent-rothwell5813
    @suzannebessent-rothwell5813 5 років тому +17

    It occurs to me while listening to you speak of imbolg that the winter would have been spent mostly inside and in the same clothes so coming outside and using snowmelt and rain in predug pits and having a communal laundry day seems a very sensible option.

    • @Ogham
      @Ogham  5 років тому +3

      Indeed!

  • @AriaIvancichArt
    @AriaIvancichArt 5 років тому +10

    the Cattle purification through smoke etc. is very interesting to me

  • @macnacailli
    @macnacailli 5 років тому +17

    Just a little addition: Raw rowan berries might give a person the runs, but cooked it is used in jams (popular in Newfoundland) and wine.

    • @kimberlyhornby9595
      @kimberlyhornby9595 5 років тому +1

      Fancy meeting you here Brian (not surprised) ;-)

    • @macnacailli
      @macnacailli 5 років тому +1

      @@kimberlyhornby9595

    • @Ogham
      @Ogham  5 років тому

      Grma Brian

  • @blackbirdsong6132
    @blackbirdsong6132 5 років тому +4

    Thanks, Lora.

  • @hutchison3379
    @hutchison3379 2 роки тому

    This is a fascinating video. Thanks Lora.

  • @OCiarmhaic
    @OCiarmhaic Рік тому

    Thank you Lora for sharing this information.

  • @daisypeters3216
    @daisypeters3216 5 років тому +4

    Hi, Lora. Thank you so much for send me this very interesting video about irish and scott ancestors. With love, Daisy.

  • @bethboedicker554
    @bethboedicker554 3 роки тому +1

    This was very informative thank u .. I’ve been into medicinal herbs for quite some time

  • @macnacailli
    @macnacailli 5 років тому +6

    "I'm not a doctor, but..." haha
    Great job, as always. Keep up the good work.

  • @HallowedHighlands
    @HallowedHighlands 2 роки тому +1

    This was immensely helpful, go raibh maith agat Lora!

  • @aprilbaby1960
    @aprilbaby1960 5 років тому +12

    I’m Irish living in Canada. Even from a small child I’ve always had a deep respect an almost familiar connection with the First Nations Peoples of Canada. I believe the Irish and First Nations are connected somehow.

    • @aprilbaby1960
      @aprilbaby1960 5 років тому +4

      MsBansheeBabe your proof is what?

    • @quietmagpie1886
      @quietmagpie1886 4 роки тому +2

      There is evidence of ogham in West Virginia USA, there's supposed to be a legend connecting St.Brendan, and there are stories of a tribe in Georgia or one of the Carolina's that was called Duhare, or something like that, it's all interesting and worth researching.

    • @wuldr
      @wuldr 4 роки тому +1

      Ancestral North Eurasians (A.N.E.) were the original Humans of Northern Europe and Asia. These people are also ancestors of all Europeans and Native Americans. Irish and Indigenous Americans have a large amount of A.N.E. ancestry. These hunter gatherers are thought to be the population that shamanism and the basis of Native American and Irish Animism and spirituallity.

    • @silverkitty2503
      @silverkitty2503 3 роки тому +9

      @@aprilbaby1960 The lack of evidence for any such connection. There is no genetic connection no linguistic connection and no archeological evidence of a connection. All you have is a feeling which is coming from a post colonial white mind.

    • @silverkitty2503
      @silverkitty2503 3 роки тому +1

      @@quietmagpie1886 You have badly misunderstood the legend of ST Brendan.

  • @hutchison3379
    @hutchison3379 2 роки тому

    These remind me of sweat houses that were found among the Celtiberians in Spain.

  • @dfrenchorn
    @dfrenchorn 6 місяців тому

    This was incredibly insightful, and it showed up in such a particular moment! I have always had a particular affinity to, or I particularly fancy juniper. So that's super cool. I've never felt super close to sage tbh, and I think it's a bit over-consumed at the moment. But it's cool to have the feeling that the affinities of a culture that I have no physical/direct attachment to, still somehow "flow through me!"

  • @woodswizard40
    @woodswizard40 4 роки тому +3

    Regarding the pits and flax production, there are similar albeit smaller pits at La Quemada, a pre-Aztec indigenous site in Mexico (Alta Vista culture). No flax there, but they did process cactus for fibers. I wonder if that was the purpose of those pits...

  • @elizabethklebart455
    @elizabethklebart455 3 роки тому +3

    I am a Feng Shui practitioner and I'm researching the Celtic practices in house healing. My maternal ancestors are Irish, Monahan and O'Neill. Do you know where I can find more info?

  • @fionamcormac7786
    @fionamcormac7786 4 роки тому +1

    Find your videos down to earth lora and the content is good ..I'm taking my time going through them and nice to meet you .fiona .cosgrove...thanks

  • @fragranceofsound
    @fragranceofsound 3 роки тому +1

    The sweat house may have also been there before the Native Americans got together with the people's of this land as the Finn had Sauna but they could have all gotten the practice from the Native Americans.

    • @vincentcolonna2409
      @vincentcolonna2409 3 роки тому +2

      I dont think so since tribes from around the world didnt come in contact till people travel, who knows native americans could of gotten it from finn's and or slavs and celts, some native dance is very similar to irish dancing cause many irish showed them

    • @antoanto5301
      @antoanto5301 2 роки тому

      There is archaeological evidence for sweat lodge/sweat house in northern England, I met an archaeologist many years ago that described a small mound of burned stones and deer antlers marked with red ochre, I think it was in north Yorkshire possibly, my own first hand experience? I have tended the fire at a few sweat lodges /temescals in the UK, east - West orientation between fire and Lodge, antlers decorated with red ochre, a small pile of burnt stones afterwards!

  • @bridge7777777
    @bridge7777777 Рік тому

    what is a blacksmith's 'hoof?' Lora mentioned it for inhaling the smoke to cure whooping cough and that the blacksmith, forge, had a magical element to them anyway. Just curious what the substance was that would be creating the smoke to inhale.

  • @caffeinatedregret
    @caffeinatedregret 4 роки тому +7

    I found this very very hard to follow during my quest to find an Irish alternative to cleansing rituals for the home and self. Is there by chance a reading version that provides the alternative mentioned in the title?

    • @silverkitty2503
      @silverkitty2503 3 роки тому +1

      IN reality any Irish version ...is very communal ....people washed their laundry together did everything together

    • @Bittagrit
      @Bittagrit 3 роки тому

      Look in the description box for links.

    • @caffeinatedregret
      @caffeinatedregret 3 роки тому +3

      @@Bittagrit I did and didn’t get the information I was seeking, hence why I asked. Description is the first place I looked.

  • @Maggieshamancrow
    @Maggieshamancrow 2 роки тому

    I'm still not clear is "Glanad" an Irish term for Smudging or Saining?

  • @AriaIvancichArt
    @AriaIvancichArt 5 років тому +9

    the connection bewtween the Native American and Native Irish cultures could really be a thing !!!

    • @aprilbaby1960
      @aprilbaby1960 5 років тому

      MsBansheeBabe you know this how?

    • @jessfitzpatrick831
      @jessfitzpatrick831 5 років тому +19

      There are hundreds of different tribes and groups that fall under Indigenous American, and to lump all of them believing and practicing the same thing is a deeply ignorant and colonized viewpoint.
      In that same vein, Indigenous American and Indigenous Irish Practices may share some similar practices, as do many human cultures all over the world. But I feel it would be sloppy scholarship and practice to claim they are the same or connected beyond coincidence.
      This is my understanding, from what I have read and gathered from conversations around indigenous practices. But I am not an expert.

    • @Ogham
      @Ogham  5 років тому +11

      That's not what the video says ;-)

    • @erinwhistle
      @erinwhistle 5 років тому

      I believe that the Lakota tribe has what is called the "Sweat Lodge", a purification chamber. They used White Sage for the purpose.

    • @cookmoore3736
      @cookmoore3736 4 роки тому +1

      Both Caucasian. Shared cultures through travels :) Atlantis. It goes on. I have seen a lot of similarities too. Serene.

  • @BiohazardBunney
    @BiohazardBunney 2 роки тому +1

    I use rosemary, tbh. It doesn't smell as nice but has the same purification properties

  • @AriaIvancichArt
    @AriaIvancichArt 5 років тому +4

    maybe I need to be clearer on who my answers/comments regard. I don't specify it normally because I deem it quite obvious that if I write under somebody's video I am responding to their comment. This being explained, I am reasoning and hypothising and I don' t mean to disrespect any culture or individual with what I am saying. And neither is my mentor Lora O' Brien, I can swear by that : )

  • @Maggieshamancrow
    @Maggieshamancrow 2 роки тому +2

    I guess we could never contemplate the idea that First Nations People learned from the ancient Irish about smoke cleansing...

  • @anonymousforcommentslol6075
    @anonymousforcommentslol6075 6 місяців тому

    hello! i was just wondering if i (a baby witch) can do this. i have irish origins as far as like ancestry goes, but i did not grow up in ireland/around anyone who did. i also was wondering if there’s alternatives to this without smoke that i can do in a dorm room that is against lighting candles and such, while still effectively cleansing my room. thank you!!