What Happens if you FAIL the First Thieves Guild Quest?

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  • @anttitheinternetguy3213
    @anttitheinternetguy3213 9 місяців тому +22

    14:49 i loved the Autism Cat reference/easter egg!

  • @stebbenwolfe
    @stebbenwolfe 9 місяців тому +66

    I was about to ask what happens if you reverse pickpocket the diary onto Amusei, but then I remembered you can't remove quest items unless you're giving it to the right person. It would be really funny though if you could.

  • @springheeljak145
    @springheeljak145 9 місяців тому +41

    Meanwhile, Brynjolf lets you join the Thieves Guild in Skyrim no matter how hard you fail his quest

    • @rustyjones7908
      @rustyjones7908 9 місяців тому +11

      I love doing the "worst thief possible" run

    • @insertusername9755
      @insertusername9755 9 місяців тому +9

      You even get picked from street, as if Brynjolf can see who is prospective thief

    • @hazeltree7738
      @hazeltree7738 9 місяців тому +10

      To be fair, the Thieves Guild in Skyrim is dying and desperate for new recruits so it makes sense. But yeah, I agree it's stupid that he just lets you in no matter what

    • @hermit3043
      @hermit3043 9 місяців тому +3

      There's not much thieving in the skyrim thieves guild, so he can afford to be more lenient.

    • @rustyjones7908
      @rustyjones7908 9 місяців тому +14

      @@hermit3043 the Skyrim guilds were all lackluster. I've been told the morrowind mage guild quests where you spend half of the quest line fetching papers and materials for your more senior colleagues is probably the best depiction of working in academia in any game.

  • @szykowny6017
    @szykowny6017 9 місяців тому +42

    Never knew about the quest to steal the sword. Crazy this game can still surprise after 17 years

    • @sanguinepub
      @sanguinepub 6 місяців тому +2

      When I first played through this, I did it legit. The second time though, I decided not to deal with it for a few days. As I went to do other things. If I remember right, I got the dialogues about losing, not realizing I could lose. So then I ended up doing the sword. I remember that dog gave me a lot of problems. So much so that I got 100 Sneak and a perfect invisibility spell before getting the sword. I was young and thought nothing of spells like calm. xD

  • @Etherwinter
    @Etherwinter 9 місяців тому +23

    I've always loved how most of the game's challenges can be gotten over by senselessly swinging your sword, but then when you get to the thieves guild you're restricted from doing that, and you have to actually sneak around. The dark brotherhood too, you have to actually be a good assassin, get in and get out without no one seeing you. Make it look like an accident, or frame someone else. Or even fake someone's death. There's even the Whodunit quest which can play out various ways depending on who you talk to, and how you did it. It was so creative.

    • @rustyjones7908
      @rustyjones7908 9 місяців тому +1

      Dark lore dash actually did a dark brotherhood series previously. It's a good watch.

    • @AmySorrellMusic
      @AmySorrellMusic 9 місяців тому +2

      The DB party quest was so fantastic. Still one of my favorites in any game ever.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 7 місяців тому +2

      With both guilds it's better to do it in a way fitting the guild, but it's still possible to sword yourself through. For the DB that usually means forfeiting the bonus and for the thieves it usually means paying for each head taken.

    • @casper191985
      @casper191985 5 місяців тому +1

      At least your character has toes, so there’s that.

  • @Kolonsker
    @Kolonsker 9 місяців тому +16

    It’s good to see Autism Cat making his debut

    • @DarkLOREDash
      @DarkLOREDash  9 місяців тому +6

      The only cat in Oblivion worth mentioning 😺

  • @takula8912
    @takula8912 9 місяців тому +185

    Stop! You violated the law by being this early! Pay the court a fine of Liking the video, or serve your sentence >:O

    • @arifhossain9751
      @arifhossain9751 9 місяців тому +10

      *Resist Arrest*

    • @takula8912
      @takula8912 9 місяців тому

      @@arifhossain9751 THEN PAY WITH YOUR BLOOD >:(

    • @eno88
      @eno88 9 місяців тому +5

      Resist Arrest

    • @t5hammer871
      @t5hammer871 9 місяців тому +20

      THEN PAY WITH YOUR VIEWS

    • @onyxthegemlord2847
      @onyxthegemlord2847 9 місяців тому +12

      Your stolen sleep is now forfeit!

  • @aardvarkartichokey467
    @aardvarkartichokey467 9 місяців тому +24

    I always forget about the beast command spells. I’m glad you can still get the sword without hurting the dog :)

  • @dimitar4y
    @dimitar4y 9 місяців тому +6

    i can't take serious the punching a sleeping npc and they just fly off the bed like they have a bad backache "OOogh!"

  • @mattsmith2702
    @mattsmith2702 9 місяців тому +31

    Yo dash please no matter what don’t stop with the the tes content, génuinely you’re one of the best pages in the community I’ve seen in a long time - especially as the game gets older and we can compare it with new entires it’s great to see how much was put into this game despite the technical limitations

  • @st.anselmsfire3547
    @st.anselmsfire3547 9 місяців тому +34

    I failed the first quest once, and then had to steal the sword. I really enjoyed this little caper, but what cracked me up was that Amusei always ends up joining the guild eventually anyway, and about how easy it would be for Hieronymous Lex to bust the guild if he just had someone go undercover.

    • @sleepysartorialist
      @sleepysartorialist 9 місяців тому +1

      lol I remember failing the first time I played and being so upset I couldn't join I just gave up

    • @hermit3043
      @hermit3043 9 місяців тому

      He does have somebody go under cover though.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 7 місяців тому

      considering that you get quests and deliver loot to the exact same spot, Amusei can just wait couple days and try again while yo're on your first quest.

  • @TheFlowerday96
    @TheFlowerday96 9 місяців тому +10

    Ah my favorite Bosmer girl!
    and if im correct she is the only or one of few npcs to wear a different out while she sleeps.

  • @AnonymousLoki
    @AnonymousLoki 9 місяців тому +2

    A little tip too, the beggars have a persuasion check when it comes to thieves guild information.
    I found this out with my Cheshire kahjiit. If you have a high enough spell for charm or rally (or both) they'll tell you anything you wanna know at no cost.
    I was able to gather all my information for free, because my custom spell of "cheshires diplomacy" (heightened charm, rally, and calm) helped me pass those checks at ease.

    • @rustyjones7908
      @rustyjones7908 9 місяців тому +1

      Huh, I didn't know Rally had that effect in addition to Charm.

    • @caseyphelps6232
      @caseyphelps6232 9 місяців тому

      @@rustyjones7908it doesn’t he’s just saying what his spell did

  • @HappyBeezerStudios
    @HappyBeezerStudios 7 місяців тому +2

    When Armand proclaims that the winner is the one that brings him the book my first thought was "so I could just stand over there, wait for one of the others to come with the book, and take it off them"

  • @diablojones
    @diablojones 9 місяців тому +5

    Little Shop Of Horrors was originally a 1960 film by Roger Corman. *However* the diary also mentions a “Bucket Of Blood, which was another Corman film.

  • @Haleghest
    @Haleghest 9 місяців тому +19

    I've played Oblivion for the first time around a month ago and I fell in love with it. Your videos are fun to watch to remember how much fun I had when I played these quests for the first time, or to learn new things. Keep up the good work!

    • @morganfreeman5260
      @morganfreeman5260 9 місяців тому +1

      take your time and don’t rush it. the games are really good if you don’t just run through every area picking up everything.

    • @DarkLOREDash
      @DarkLOREDash  9 місяців тому +2

      Thank you! What's your favorite quest/moment, so far?

    • @Haleghest
      @Haleghest 9 місяців тому +1

      Got to say anything from the first "half" of Dark Brotherhood series of quests. If I were to pick a single one I'd say Whodunit. Aside from that - definitely Vaermina's Daedric Quest, Mazoga The Orc, or Caught in the Hunt @@DarkLOREDash

  • @hi-sm6dx
    @hi-sm6dx 9 місяців тому +10

    another oblivion upload ❤

  • @AndrevusWhitetail
    @AndrevusWhitetail 7 місяців тому +1

    The fact that you only said Puny Ancus' name properly only once and replacing Puny with other synonyms was not lost on me

  • @NicholeLastname
    @NicholeLastname 9 місяців тому +5

    The way you handled the dialogue glitches was pretty smooth! The editing was well done. Another great video, as always!
    (Also the reference to Autism Cat at 14:45 is amazing lmao)

  • @KoongYe
    @KoongYe 9 місяців тому +5

    I always love how informative your videos are. I learned so much about a quest I finished 100+ times now.

    • @DarkLOREDash
      @DarkLOREDash  9 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! I actually learn a lot going in research mode & am scared I'm over sharing 🤣

  • @potentialnobody6652
    @potentialnobody6652 9 місяців тому +4

    I always felt bad beating Methredel and Amusei at the first trial, but I was super ecstatic when I saw them again along the quests! It's like getting excited for a friend because they got the job they wanted

    • @rustyjones7908
      @rustyjones7908 9 місяців тому +2

      My first time I thought Methredel was already an experienced thief and the test was to see if I was smart enough to steal the journal from her instead of beating her. I didn't realize you could beat her to the journal until years later.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 7 місяців тому +1

      @@rustyjones7908 she can't be that good at the job when she is a regular at the thieves guild trial

    • @rustyjones7908
      @rustyjones7908 7 місяців тому

      @@HappyBeezerStudios yeah, it's almost like it was my first time and I didn't know that. If only there was some way I could communicate that to you in written format that it was my first time. Alas, there is no way to indicate it was my first time in print.

  • @seldomsane5278
    @seldomsane5278 9 місяців тому +3

    I can tell you have fun with these. Cheers for the awesome content.

  • @Lvx_Primabreaks
    @Lvx_Primabreaks 9 місяців тому +1

    This was amazing to wind down to after work, Thanks man!! ❤

  • @positivepotato6765
    @positivepotato6765 9 місяців тому +3

    From d4 to oblivion. Guess d4 really doesnt have much

  • @ZoomReverseFlash
    @ZoomReverseFlash 7 місяців тому +1

    The first version of "The Little Shop of Horrors" is from 1960.

  • @Deathly_Visage
    @Deathly_Visage 9 місяців тому +1

    One time while doing this quest, when I asked Puny where Amantius's house is, I also asked him about the Gray Fox... and he gave the standard "Don't pay attention to those rumors. There's no such thing as the Thieves Guild". Yeah, I got the "Thieves Guild doesn't exist" line from a beggar while completing May the Best Thief Win.

    • @DarkLOREDash
      @DarkLOREDash  9 місяців тому +1

      Happened to me too. Also Heironymous will say he's a myth in one breath, then demonise the guild in the next. Not so congruent 🤣

  • @shararm
    @shararm 9 місяців тому +5

    Holy shit ive never been this early. I love working at night so im up to watch it right away

  • @blemeh2625
    @blemeh2625 9 місяців тому +4

    Love your vids and keep up the good work.

  • @codymcgrath2.3bviews3secon7
    @codymcgrath2.3bviews3secon7 9 місяців тому +2

    I remember messing up on this quest so much when I first played this as a kid

  • @AntiCommunistAlliance
    @AntiCommunistAlliance 9 місяців тому +1

    Just discovered this channel with your last video before this one. Love the content and accent also :)

  • @theredwhirlwin
    @theredwhirlwin 9 місяців тому +1

    Yesss, I'm so excited to watch this!

  • @tatlxtael2303
    @tatlxtael2303 9 місяців тому +3

    god the thieves guild in oblivion was so good, Im so excited to see this series, it was like a robin hood fantasy come to life

  • @Basil240
    @Basil240 9 місяців тому +1

    I don't think the "filthy beggars" line at 14:30 meant literal beggars, pretty sure it just means more rats

  • @kenny6920
    @kenny6920 9 місяців тому +1

    Excellent work once again. Oblivion giving suprises all these years later, truly the underrated champ of the Elder Scrolls.

  • @mattiasandersson1276
    @mattiasandersson1276 9 місяців тому +2

    Wooooooo!!! Dark Lore Dash is back at long last with a new guild quest line to be told in the best way possible, the Dark Lore Dash way! Good times lie ahead!

  • @brantnuttall
    @brantnuttall 9 місяців тому

    6:56 YAY! he lives. Maybe you're not so bad after all!

  • @brantnuttall
    @brantnuttall 9 місяців тому

    another great video. thanks!

  • @Kammithekiller
    @Kammithekiller 9 місяців тому

    ayyy i love waking up to these :D

  • @oghren6617
    @oghren6617 9 місяців тому +1

    Another great video capital

  • @Cn-pd6li
    @Cn-pd6li 9 місяців тому +2

    these oblivion videos are comforting for me

  • @DrNatemiester
    @DrNatemiester 9 місяців тому +2

    A day in history, DLD has posted a new video! 😊

  • @aliciagreen5411
    @aliciagreen5411 9 місяців тому

    Years of playing this quest and I never noticed that horror movie nod. I wonder if there's a tie with that note to the DB at all.
    Awesome video to get my day started, thank you :)

  • @dimitar4y
    @dimitar4y 9 місяців тому +6

    Thanks for these, Mr. DLD. Wish these games had a narrator like you from the very start.

  • @AiR1DaN
    @AiR1DaN 9 місяців тому +1

    Hm... maybe he lives in the Elven Garden district..

  • @taurus600
    @taurus600 5 місяців тому

    I always feel bad for Amusei, bro is so lost, poor guy lmfao. Glad he finally gets in later

  • @MyratheDunmer
    @MyratheDunmer 9 місяців тому

    I’m so excited for one of my favourite quest lines in one of my favourite games!

  • @INeedHerPomPomJuice
    @INeedHerPomPomJuice 9 місяців тому +1

    need more of these uploads

  • @CorvoFG
    @CorvoFG 9 місяців тому +2

    Yay, more of my favourite game!

  • @Dovah_Slayer
    @Dovah_Slayer 9 місяців тому +2

    I always fail the first one for the 2 infamy points if im going to be an evil character I'm going all out getting my infamy as high as possible without murdering everyone in every city

  • @yunusakm
    @yunusakm 9 місяців тому

    Dude I love you videos

  • @Mammongus
    @Mammongus 9 місяців тому

    Your voice is so nice. I play your videos when I sleep.

    • @DarkLOREDash
      @DarkLOREDash  9 місяців тому +1

      Thank you & Good night 😴

  • @Falkriim
    @Falkriim 9 місяців тому

    Great video

  • @HeisBeppo
    @HeisBeppo 9 місяців тому

    I just now learned of this cutlass, time to go add it to my stash of unique gear. Don't ask me how I'm going to keep it I haven't thought that far yet.

  • @Elliasal
    @Elliasal 9 місяців тому

    Nothing beats how silly the voice actors flip flop between sentences lmao.

  • @bridgesbane7032
    @bridgesbane7032 9 місяців тому

    Bless you sir.

  • @thelonesage3146
    @thelonesage3146 9 місяців тому

    That punch lol

  • @xlynz69
    @xlynz69 9 місяців тому

    This might be the first minders day oblivion video I’ve watched

  • @DarkSamus100
    @DarkSamus100 9 місяців тому

    I wonder if Methredel being in the Thieves Guild might affect something, or maybe not. Thanks for the video. Have a good day, and the same to everybody. Cheers.

  • @BeastBlood1885
    @BeastBlood1885 8 місяців тому

    21:08 That was so abrupt lmao.

  • @finlay9616
    @finlay9616 9 місяців тому

    "Hopefully Amusei has better luck in Leyawin"
    Me who has played Oblivion since it came out: "OOOOOOOoooooOooOoo... no... he really really doesn't..."

    • @DarkLOREDash
      @DarkLOREDash  9 місяців тому

      😉 it's almost unfair setting him up for failure

  • @solaurelian7638
    @solaurelian7638 9 місяців тому +1

    Really looking forward to more Oblivion content, you are my favourite story teller and lore replaying channel. I am so ready for all the Thieves guild and hopefully Mages in the future! :D

    • @DarkLOREDash
      @DarkLOREDash  9 місяців тому +1

      Dude, thank you so much you didn't have to donate! I too am excited. Thieves, Mages & admittedly Fighters are all really solid stories. I may even cover the Arena (focusing on the Gray Prince questline mostly.) What do you think?

    • @solaurelian7638
      @solaurelian7638 9 місяців тому

      @@DarkLOREDash I am really looking forward to the completion of the Thieves Guild (I’ve watched the DB series like 10 times by now) and hopefully one day you can get to the Daedric shrines since some of them are definitely of the darker nature, Mephala comes to mind 😏🧟‍♀️. But I will watch any oblivion content you do, in fact one of my favourite ones is the detective style where you followed the Skooma Trade and the Sleeper Cell Mythics!

  • @Zviewssister01
    @Zviewssister01 9 місяців тому +3

    Fun fact, if Methredhel is about to give it to Armand and is gloating about being able to join, you can pickpocket it out of her inventory and when she goes to give it to him she’s confused about where it went.

    • @DarkLOREDash
      @DarkLOREDash  9 місяців тому +3

      No way!!! I need to see this

    • @Zviewssister01
      @Zviewssister01 9 місяців тому +1

      @@DarkLOREDash I just tried it to see if it was still the way I remembered but it’s not and I’m confused BUT pickpocketing is a way to go about it and she does comment on it but the game recognizes her as the winner even if you have it in your possession.

  • @BansheeKing22
    @BansheeKing22 9 місяців тому

    Continue with the story. The DB one was good and now we need this one as well as the rest of the guilds.

  • @neal8716
    @neal8716 9 місяців тому

    Work all the reservation you do for these I'm spirited you missed this. The 1986 movie is an adaptation of a play, which was an adaptation of a 1960 movie.

  • @DroChaku
    @DroChaku 9 місяців тому +2

    I love Oblivion.

  • @Notimportant959
    @Notimportant959 9 місяців тому +2

    I remember as a kid how many times I failed the first quest😅

    • @NicholeLastname
      @NicholeLastname 9 місяців тому

      Same! Had to steal it from her house as a kid lol. I remember never wanting to do the quest again, but that was before I realized I could just get good.

  • @groswell1758
    @groswell1758 9 місяців тому

    OH MY GOSH IS THAT AN AUTISM CAT REFERENCE IN THE VIDEO?!

  • @brantnuttall
    @brantnuttall 9 місяців тому

    if you fail the first quest, someone approaches you whilst you are sleeping and tattoos "muppet" on your forehead. but you don't know because 1st person perspective.

    • @Xeno_Solarus
      @Xeno_Solarus 7 місяців тому +1

      AH HA! But you forget, not only can you switch to third person, you also have a third person perspective in the character menu!

  • @beardiemom
    @beardiemom 6 місяців тому

    My sense of orienting myself is absolute bs, so I always went ahead and stole the diary from Methredel xD

  • @TheLunarLegend
    @TheLunarLegend 9 місяців тому

    I had a weird thing happen once, I didn't get to the book first, lost track of whatshername then waited by armon, I stole the book off her and thought it was fine, wanted to see her reaction so let her go to Armon. It went like she still had the book on her despite it being in my inventory lol. My theft was so good even the game didn't realize I'd taken it.

  • @harrysmith9147
    @harrysmith9147 9 місяців тому

    Babe wake up. New dld video

  • @celinapelina
    @celinapelina 9 місяців тому

    *sees scythe, thinks of children of the corn*
    Very good video, as always!

    • @celinapelina
      @celinapelina 9 місяців тому

      And I was very wrong lol

  • @Shimamon27
    @Shimamon27 9 місяців тому +1

    Rather cool there's an actual option to fail and stick with it... Never tried it!
    I have to ask, what if you intentionally sneak the sword to the inventory of Amusei, or, just drop it next to him?
    Is there an option for a third intentional fail?

  • @tellylee3913
    @tellylee3913 9 місяців тому

    The wilburger reference lmfao

  • @michaelhooper8559
    @michaelhooper8559 8 місяців тому

    Amantius Allectus once told me that Amantius Allectus was killed in a burglary..
    Actually i hear this rumor every time i join the guild.. he never dies tho

  • @dimitar4y
    @dimitar4y 9 місяців тому +2

    "despite the jiggle physics" :DDDDD

  • @brantnuttall
    @brantnuttall 9 місяців тому

    19:23 I'm running out of words to use to describe your despicable actions! (joking)

  • @Trigger99X
    @Trigger99X 9 місяців тому

    I’ve forgotten what happens if they beat you to the first mission, only happened on my first playthrough

  • @RobinTheBot
    @RobinTheBot 9 місяців тому

    I don't think he killed any beggars... i think they were talking about the rats, "buggers" either a typo misunderstanding

  • @JafoTHEgreat
    @JafoTHEgreat 8 місяців тому

    14:45
    That is no ordinary Khajit. That is Autism Cat. Wowee.

  • @karczekpl7462
    @karczekpl7462 9 місяців тому

    14:48 is that a Willburgur reference?

  • @matthewmclean9607
    @matthewmclean9607 9 місяців тому

    I really wish we would get remaster or remake of this gem… I haven’t played it since 2008 and I don’t have a ps3 anymore 😢

    • @jacksonweseman3391
      @jacksonweseman3391 7 місяців тому

      Goes on sale pretty often on steam if its any consolation, even full price the deluxe edition won't run you more than 20 bucks or so

  • @albertmaheswara9968
    @albertmaheswara9968 9 місяців тому +2

    ugh, is it just me or does armand's eyes have different heights?

  • @huntokarthedestroyer2267
    @huntokarthedestroyer2267 9 місяців тому

    Can you give him the sword by pickpocketing him and fail again?

  • @djn6962
    @djn6962 9 місяців тому

    Can you pickpocket the quest items into Amusei’s inventory to hell him win?

  • @joshcullerton9439
    @joshcullerton9439 9 місяців тому

    How do you drag it out soooo much

  • @A21-EDITS21
    @A21-EDITS21 9 місяців тому

    Wait a minute.... is this Dash Star??

  • @MisterPuck
    @MisterPuck 9 місяців тому

    So I’m assuming this doesn’t work, but what if after Methredhel steals the diary, _you_ sneak in and kill Amantius and his wife to make it seem as if Methredhel did it?

    • @DarkLOREDash
      @DarkLOREDash  9 місяців тому

      Their deaths will incur the blood price

  • @tailsgotgame5711
    @tailsgotgame5711 6 місяців тому

    Wowee

  • @quinnlee-miller9792
    @quinnlee-miller9792 7 місяців тому

    Can Amusei win that second contest?

  • @AndreaChiarolini
    @AndreaChiarolini 9 місяців тому +1

    WAIT
    Was 14:48 an A-Cat reference?

  • @naturetime3823
    @naturetime3823 9 місяців тому +1

    What if Amusei wins the second one?

    • @DarkLOREDash
      @DarkLOREDash  9 місяців тому +1

      He doesn't even attempt it, sadly

  • @eno88
    @eno88 9 місяців тому +1

    Morning

  • @northp_the_green_pale_pete
    @northp_the_green_pale_pete 8 місяців тому

    Wait... was that an autism cat cameo?

  • @1sweetree
    @1sweetree 8 місяців тому

    Are you confused?

  • @arifhossain9751
    @arifhossain9751 9 місяців тому +2

    Heya Dash... i know the new *low and bold* intro voice is to keep in line with the whole *dark* lore theme, but its starting to sound... low energy, if you catch my meaning. I think your regular voice is plenty good as is.

    • @DarkLOREDash
      @DarkLOREDash  9 місяців тому +2

      Well, thank you! It's funny, I default to lower & more emphasis when trying to set up a vid. Will def do multiple takes next time, cheers!

  • @christopherlarsson7301
    @christopherlarsson7301 9 місяців тому

    Why is Richand Hammond posting Oblivion content?

  • @solaurelian7638
    @solaurelian7638 9 місяців тому +1

    the autism cat reference bahhahahahaha