DUNE 2 | Lady Jessica drinks the Water of Life
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And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why you should always ask your patient for any ongoing medical symptoms *before* giving them life-altering substances
alia was like nah pass that joint imma about to smack everyone when i am out
@@sassythesasquatch4425 not even born and she's already plunged the galaxy into war
@@TheMarkmcrso evil 😁
Jessica really did die drinking the water of life. You could see it in Paul’s face when she was telling him to do as she did and become the Kwisatz Haderach. His mother was gone, the reverend mother was all that remained.
No person goes like that even if in a fantastic situation like this. I mean, Dune is as realistic as possible when it comes to human mind and soul. So, she is still Jessica. But she has now others in her mind. She is enhanced. Like every Reverend Mother before her, every Reverend Mother who are contemporary of her and every Reverend Mother aftee her. Her shadow side of her soul becomes more prominent after all those terrible, rapid and destructive events that happened to her and this WoL rite. The circumstances make her shadow side prominent in order to make her survive. She is slapped by life and hardened by harsh environment too fastly. So, desperate times call for desparate measures for her now.
And vast knowledge does not always bring peace and conscience to a person.
Yet there is still old Jessica in there. Somewhere. She is not lost.
And who Jessica actually is? I cannot say that either before WoL Jessica or after WoL Jessica is true Jessica. Nay. She even does not who she really is even after becoming a Reverend Mother. She havent discovered herself yet. She has more way to go in knowing her own true self and becoming a whole person. Knowledge from other memories is not enough to make her enlightened. This is the point.
In the novels, Jessica never truly transformed into another, new person nor she unveiled her hidden self. Even after becoming Reverend Mother, even all those things happened to her, despite all new roles, power and knowledge she had, her journey reached to the point where she started: She could never fully broke her own Bene Gesserit conditioning, never erased their dogmas and wrong thoughts from her mind. She was different, much more humane and emotional than many Bene Gesserit. But she was unable to set herself free from dogmas of her cult. In last two Dune novels, it is said that she spent her last decades on Caladan by being a teacher of Bene Gesserit acolytes and taught them what would happen to one if she broke Bene Gesserit rules. She gave herself as an example. And as a reader, I am not sure if she discovered her true self.
So basically, she is Bran in GoT?
@@nocturnalrecluse1216 Something that Martin took from Herbert all those years ago. DUNE was a big influence on Game Of Thrones in its morally grey complexities and political games within a larger than life setting.
@@theprowler18 So I've noticed. There are a lot of similarities between the two.
@@nocturnalrecluse1216 No, but Paul is. Jessica was the final step.
Paul before poison: I'm not the Mahdi. I'm not here to lead🤓
Paul after poison: I'M POINTING THE WAY!😡
He did tell Kynes he was gonna go for the throne
He had no choice. He didn't see the attack on the seitchs.
The moment Alia opens her eyes is so haunting
2001: space Odessey ahh moment
There's something so absolutely horrifying about it
@@whit9250
1:52 and the (previous) reverend mother knew EXACTLY the horror they not only committed, but BROUGHT to the universe
My reaction after drinking Bombay Gin "you will see the beauty and the horror" ............
Alia Locked in.
Rebecca Ferguson did such an excellent job, as Lady Jessica...her acting was top notch....and stupid me, before I saw Dune 1, thought she had been terribly miscast...Now I can't see anyone but her being able to pull off the part. Fantastic Job.
She was awful in part one but she was fantastic in this one! Parts of her performance reminded me of Rose the Hat from Dr Sleep mixed with Emperor Palpatine.
@@wiinterflowers4277 Hmmm....I thought she did fabulous in part one...much like Paul, she becomes something much different in the second movie...same thing in the books, though I had always pictured lady Jessica as a very noble, stern, maybe a bit stiff type of person, very much like the actress who played Lady Jessica in the 84 Dune movie...and was one of the reasons I thought Rebecca had been miscast. Honestly I liked her in the first movie, she was much more relatable and realistic than I expected she would be, she seemed like a real mother who also has other conflicts (i.e. Bene Gesserit) but who was unquestionably dedicated to her son.
@@lonl123 How was she dedicated to her son? In the film, she spread fanaticism for her *OWN* reasons instead of her son's and also played a major role in the downfall of both her children (fuck her for what she did to Alia!). I do like Rebecca Ferguson and I thought she did a lot better here than in part one. Oh and fuck the Bene Gesserit and their asshole system!
@@wiinterflowers4277 why palpatine? I think there are other counterparts to him (particularly if you read the third book)
@@TheMarkmcr ever hear of a joke?
If Water of life kills you i can't imagine drinking the water of Death.
The Water of Death is alcohol, and it's *awesome*.
Spice beer
Flint Michigan water is aka water of death
What are you talking about? I consumed like 10 glasses of Water of Death a weekend, as did most students.
Poison transmutation is a skill any student is trained to perform.
@@nvelsen1975 lol, in the book the Fremen drink the transmuted Water of Live and have a rave. Dancing, dubochery
3:46 its "she believes in you"
I think the most telling scene for how Jessica has changed is her talk with Chani before the Emperor arrives. She'd previously apologized to Paul about alienating Chani, and allegedly wanted to wish her luck, but when Chani shuts her down and snaps "it seems you've won your battle", "Jessica" slips a smug little smirk behind Chani's back.
She'd become something genuinely malevolent.
I did notice that
Which is funny because Jessica is the one that tells Chani that Irulan would be nothing more than a scribe, but Chani is Paul’s true wife. But in the movie, I think what’s gonna happen will be even more tragic since there would be such little time before time is up
When Jessica tells Paul what his sister is telling her she sounds like Anya for a second
This became doubly worse for Alia, as this turned her into an abomination. Jessica, as a grown adult, had the mental fortitude to withstand the barrage from so many souls that came with drinking the Water of Life. Alia on the other hand had none of that. So essentially, Alia would be subjected to possession by any number of disembodied spirits throughout the rest of her life, with no way to control or alleviate it.
Lady Jessica, mother of the year award.
Drug abuse during pregnancy and inteoducing his son to drugs
Yup :)
Paul's got more patience than I, I'd have told both sides to stfu and let my poor mother recover
Such an intense scene, captured beautifully
4:02
The Fremen in the background thinking “…white people” 💀
They literally coerced her into drinking a poison that kills half of those who consume it, subjecting her to unimaginable levels of pain, and then they've got the gaul to act so over it when she's lying there barly cognitive and rambling for days afterward.
I love that a large part of drinking the Water of Life dives right into the trope of "Came back Wrong." That line about seeing the beauty and horror was especially intense.
Going off of the preview looks like the water of life turns you into Tim Robbins.
Give Rebecca the Oscar already. What she was doing with her face and body language was intense and incredible.
I drank a Mountain Dew Amp, vodka and orange juice, Power Screwdriver.
My mind opened, I saw the Beauty and the Horror.
Mescal did that for me
I swear that Ramallo (The Old Reverend Mother) in this scene looks like a gender bent Palpatine.
Maybe that’s how Palps got laid (canon)
"Gooood."
Imagine Palpatine gasping in horror and whispering "What have I done?" And Palpatine never created anyone as dangerous as Alia.
Somehow she'll return...
"UNLIMITED... POWAAAAA..."
If I were in Paul's place I would say
"I am not here to lead. I am here to fight, chew bubblegum, and wear that sexy codpeice. I am all out of bubblegum."
Jessica’s evolution in the second movie was amazing. But also kinda disturbing
Best 5 parts
1. Paul leading Freedmen and worms through destruction of Sardaukkars, capture of the emperor and slaying his grandfather.
2. Duel with Feyd Rautha
3. Paul dominating Freedmen with his Harkonnen genes
4. Harkonnen worlds sack
5. Feyds birthday
Me: I should not have eaten three pot brownies.
Rebecca Ferguson did an amazing job acting like she was being torn apart on the inside.
It'd be funny if Jessica started dancing around an empty hotel after drinking this.
I like those quieter prayer voices at the beginning.
This is me drinking Jagermeister. Jegermeister is the real world Water Of Life. You must transmute the jager poison into something that make you drunk. Otherwise you just vomit it out or perish.
Also this is me drinking Stella, and Bitburgher.
You want to put in a time slot for AA or you want to walk-in?
Love those clips. They make me not want to see the movie even more then before, because it shits all over the books.
1:53 when you've done fucked up lol
Rebecca Ferguson... What a woman!
I wish this scene and the Pauls scene drinking the WoL could have been represented in a very trippy way like a real heroic dose of psychedelics. Not in a colourful way, but more in a dark intense, eerie, sublime, biblical, mindfuck way, that would put the audience in the theatre uneasy by experience such terrifying bliss, "the beauty and the horror".
I think this is what they settled for because most of the audience never read the book
@@brianm3160 you wouldn't need to read the book to experience such. i never read the book either.
Why do her eyes turn brown?
Powerful scene. Well acted.
wonderful, underrated actress ❤
looks like blue lotus flower extract?
I see they left out what else they use the changed water of life for😏
Still insane to me that Frank wrote Leto and Ghani participating in the spice orgy
what?
You not the mahtir…. I am …. Power to me.
*wakes up*
Lisan Al Gaib!!!11111!!!
1:53. 1+1=2??
so i cant believe i dont hear more people talking about this scene. Doesn't that old ladies' soul go into hers? What about the babies?
Ayahuasca?
this film looks sillier & sillier with each scene preview
is this soul/power transfer ritual
memory transfer. Jessica (and her unborn daughter Alia) receive the memories of the Reverend Mothers that came before them.
@@tmage23 Not transfer, but unlock. Herbert's premise is in their universe they have genetic memory so the memories are encoded to the DNA. The women can basically OD on worm juice to unlock that genetic memory. The problem is the consciousness of the previous genetic line also comes with it. Jessica is in fact, dead, she is now the sum of all of her genetic lineage with 'Jessica' as the dominant mind in the mix.
That is why they want the KH. He can unlock the male and female genetic memories.
Imagine if memories were stored on both the X and Y chromosome. Women with a pair of XX would only have the female memories, a male XY, could have both.
That is what Paul becomes.
The problem is, they just crammed a thousand genetic precursors into a fetus that hadn't had any time to develop their own personality. So Alia is schizophrenic from pre-birth ultimately allowing her uncle the Baron's genetic memory to overwhelm her mind, basically possessing her.
Someone simplified the story of Dune horribly, but reasonably, by describing it as Game of Thrones, in space, on drugs.
This is the illustration of that point.
Weird choice to show a cgi baby
Guys why was the old lady concerned about her pregnancy? I’ve watched the movies and didn’t get the answer.
I believe it’s because now the baby also has access to all those memories of the revered mother. She’s not even born yet but talks to her mom and has access to everything.
She's had millennia of memories jammed inside her all at once. Not even a persona of her own. She's a multitude.
Alia has no chance, she will be possessed and become an abomination.
@@whit9250 That's actually pretty terrifying lol Poor Alia.
A somewhat more in-depth answer if you'd like. Experienced Bene Gesserit are trained in the necessary skills to maintain control when they receive the memories but the offspring doesn't have that same training so it risks becoming overwhelmed and dominated by them - the Bene Gesserit refer to this is "abomination"
Jesus is the Water or Life irl
What a great forum for your messianic beliefs.
this si so abysmally bad, i still cannot believe it
0:32 what taking your first shot at a high school party is like.