Also, me and my buddy Pynkblud were on the same server while you were recording this. You can feel free to blame him for that incredibly well timed Grafton Day completion
@@jacobburr3570 in 76 it's either in a public server with up to 24 others or in private worlds with up to 8 if you have Fallout 1st. Most of the time players are off doing their own things so sighting another if you aren't actively participating in world events or shopping at their vendors is rare.
Oxhorn ive been saying this for about 3 years now but id personally love it if you made a fallout shirt that says "EXPLORE FOR THE LORE" you cant keep me waiting anymore man!!!!!!!!
Know what'd be nice? If some of the people connected to the quests in FO76 actually survived, but just fled once the scorchbeasts attacked. Then, once the Wastelanders DLC comes out, you could actually talk to them about what you discovered.
It's been twenty-five years. Most of them are dead, dying or too old to travel the wastes. MOST people wh get the kind of radiation poison we're dealing with are NOT going to survive long enough to come back...I'm surprised they have children younger than twenty-five. While WV was not directly hit and none of it's power plants had melt downs, there is still a LOT of background radiation (not just from the Scorchbests though they don't help) and more coming down every day and without a functional working society yet, we have NO active hospitals or treatment centers, which means no cancer treatments, no burn units, nothing that would actually AID anyone to survive that long.
@@DIEGhostfish that is true but I personally think that is the case because over the next 200 years after 76 people became more immune to the radiation since humans lived in the irradiated wasteland all the time.
It's so cool how this quest acknowledges New Vegas and their casinos. However, I also feel a bit frustrated that there aren't more clues that link Shanghai Sally to this whole conspiracy. What did she know? Why she went rogue and had the military chasing her? Was she trying to hide herself in Vegas to be protected from military harm? So many questions to be answered
@@shadowforge I'm aware of that. But FNV was considered like a side story of the franchise and small details such as these fill you with a sensation of awe and renew your spirit to replay your old games, just to check if you skipped a tiny little detail that connects these stories further.
I was replaying Fallout 4 the other day and noticed several small nods to New Vegas. Jack Cabot mentions wanting to go to the Mojave in search of remaining alien artifacts, Mr House is mentioned by name as one of the famous C.I.T graduates and several flavors of Nuka Cola which originally only appeared in New Vegas make their return in the game.
IIRC, the Lucky 38 (where Shanghai Sally supposedly had a room) wasn't opened to the public before the Great War. I'd like to know how she got in, considering that Robert House was a weirdo who probably couldn't be bribed.
Theory: 79 the Atomic number for gold. Aka treasure which Rose I believe was trying to find and is why raiders and settlers come out of state with Wastelanders. Plus the vault number is shown in the DLC artwork. So gold storage?
Disturbed Renegade I kind of wonder if there will be the Enclave return or a division of it with the Secret Service. Need a sort of third party faction besides raiders and settlers and devs have stated there are more factions than the two that players can join. There has been more discovery just on the trailer footage alone that Bethesda released. (hint look at the PW in the underground scene)
5:47 I think that the semingly random stuff that you find in that room were hints to where you needed to find what was needed to fill up the empty spaces on the board. Example being the detective case files being a subtle hint to go look for the police station to get the package. When you think about it makes sense as to why there are two misc. items that would seem to be completely out of place, but were actually hints for where you needed to go.
@@talthan In the early part of the video Ox has a minor rant about the clues to where the packages are found. He's rather sarcastic throughout, hence my original comment. His critique is valid but it's still funny how p*ssed off he is by how obtuse the clues are. I figured they were a sort of community puzzle not meant to be solved by 1 person but by the effort of the community as whole investigating it. Or like 1 dataminer who has to ruin the surprise. I swear dataminers are the type of person who read only the last page of a book.
A few buddies and myself were able to figure it out without any datamining. Finding the blacklight helped point us in the right direction, even if those labels were pretty esoteric. Finding the first clue (in Senator Blackwells office) really helped point us to all of the others
I think that despite the high speed train wreck that is 76, or even the let down that 4 was for many people, many of the actual developers who worked on these games really cared about telling a good story.
@@a15godzilla its why i keep telling people the fish rots from the head down. I sure if the devs actually had time to test and fine-tune the game instead of having to follow leadership's demand of making a buck only the game could have turned out considerably better. Especially if there are multiple betas and chances to properly test everything
@@a15godzilla I actually came back to 76 after stopping about a month after launch and am really, really enjoying the game in its current state after Devs have poured their heart and souls into making fixes as well as the upcoming expansion (human NPC questline with instancing that involves decision making for permanent outcomes). Launch really was an absolute travesty despite this and absolutely blame Zenimax studios' greed. Todd and his team were given a project that was a mutated version of their original goal, a multiplayer Fallout game. Give it a little more time and I think they will seize that dream back. Again, they've already made some pretty huge strides.
@@That1J1 I haven't played a whole lot, but I really liked what I did play, despite the chinese fire drill Bethesda seems to be running. I was under the assumption that it was a lesser branch of Bethesda that did a lot of the work on the game. I wouldn't be surprised if they were a barely running skeleton crew. Would explain many of the current issues, which just isn't fair for them if that is the case.
@@a15godzilla it's interesting, the team has definitely had a boost in revenue with their atomic shop despite how much people hate it it feels like. Bethesda cited that in 2019 over a billion atoms were spent. If only half of them were purchased, that is still them grossing between 2M and 9M dollars. They also sold 1.4M copies of the game by the end of 2018 (another 41M, averaged a sale price of 30 dollars a game to be conservative). Soooo yeah, 50M in revenue with a team of 30 isn't too shabby. Even if they spend a smidge of money that they have made back on the game, that is some solid content. I'm really hoping this translates to that, would not hesitate to think so if this were 2017, but I just don't trust them enough and will believe it when I see it.
Clayton Koskey well he might get the chance to look into it soon since it does say on a wiki that it might come out with wastelanders dlc witch is just a few months away
To be honest. This was the best storyline they could’ve come up with to get to vault 79. It gave me sooo many chills when you came up to vault 79 lol. I had no idea there was the elevator and the door with passcode
So happy to watch more Fallout 76 content from you!! I'm so excited to watch you play the game again in future! I MISS the F76 live streams. Thank you for all you do, Oxhorn!!! Love your channel ^_^ Happy holidays!
You put a LOT of work on this video, thanks ox! It was appreciated. I really want to try this myself, but I don’t think I have the time... so maybe later I’ll hop back to 76 Can’t wait to see what’s inside!
76 is buggy and crashing a lot, but still love the lore that's in the game if you look. And thanks oxhorn for bringing us all this lore for those of us that can't get past the crashes.
Not a huge fan of the lore pre-emptying.the area, or hive mind diseases, or overreliance on aliens and the supernatural when even the Black Isle team said they put too much of that in Fallout 2 and wanted to walk back the canon status. But some of the stuff's pretty cool.
@@DIEGhostfish I feel very similarly, and like that they are adding the conspiracies on the side rather than making them so in your face. After following a lot of the regular story, I missed a lot of the crazy fringe stuff like this.
8100³yrd × 3= 24,300³feet. I'm no engineer, so correct me if I'm wrong (anyone) but that sounds like a reasonable amount of concrete for some of the large bunkers we find in the fallout universe.
It's not 24,300 cubic feet. It's 218,700 cubic feet, a cubic yard is 27 cubic feet. Both invoices together equal 442,800 cubic feet, I don't have any real concept for how much that is.
Actually, I found a handy calculator, 16400 cu yards of concrete will make a single slab of concrete 600 feet wide by 600 feet long by 14.76 inches thick. That's almost enough space to fit eight American football fields on in a 2x4 grid, if you drop the end zones and make them a little skinnier.
But doesn't that seem a bit excessive, even for a Vault? You gotta remember that probably at least half of the vault would be "hollow". You're calculations are assuming this is all just one giant block of concrete, which it's not.
@@Dat-Mudkip How big do you want the vault to be? Making it hollow just means the building materials can be "stretched" further. Very roughly speaking, I don't have the calculations on hand that I did 2 weeks ago, 16,400 cu yards of concrete will produce something like 200 1500 sq ft rooms but that's if they only use it to make rooms and not for other things, like hallways, foundation footing, pillars, and all the other important little things that go into construction Also, I wasn't assuming anything, I offered the slab because I felt it would more clearly illustrate, in the most straight forward terms possible, the sheer amount of concrete in question. I could have just as easily said 360,000 1 foot x 1 foot x 14.76 inch blocks and expected anyone reading it to imagine building the Vault (Minecraft-style) out of them, but I didn't.
@Oxhorn - On the shelf under the terminal in Clarksburg Post office that had the dead man's switch on it there's a note. If I remember correctly it's a correspondence between 999 and Flavia.
My god, rewatching this and listening to you try to piece together what you need to do to figure out the mystery by using nonsense clues reminds me SO much of South Park when the scientist does the same thing. Dying laughing right now. Lol.
You do lore better than anyone, Oxhorn! Love the vocal intonations that just increase the amusement value of your work. Keep it up, big fella. And keep those suspenders stretched tight!!
For monetary context, the Fallout Universe pre-war dollar had undergone MASSIVE inflation, and had very little value. For example, the price tag for an issue of Guns and Bullets, ostensibly an analogue for Guns and Ammo, a $5 magazine, cost $33 (it's right there on the covers). Other such mags with visible price tags are similarly priced, with Hot Rodders being priced at $35, Robco Fun costing $40, and Astoundingly Awesome Tales costing $29. (Being expies of Hot Rod magazine, $8, Gaming magazine, $9, and Amazing Stories magazine, which used to sell for $7 an issue but is now more of a novel and anthology publishing company) Meaning that that 10,000 dollar fine was probably valued at more around 2k or maybe even $1500 in value. This is actually why Pre-War Money is just about ALWAYS found in STACKS... a couple of bills wouldn't buy you ANYTHING.
I don't think Bethesda intended datamining to be the solution to this quest. I can't imagine devs discussing it like "ok but no quest markers, if they want to complete the quest they need to be able to datamine lmao" Datamining is just what we, the players, used as a shortcut to find the solution quicker. The quest was supposed to be like a big mystery, and Beth expected the community to solve it together (since it's an online game). Many other games have the same type of hidden secrets that people on forums or reddit discuss, share clues and figure out together. Like FF:06:B5 mystery in Cyberpunk for example. Unfortunately datamining kind of ruined the fun and the mystery of it all. As you see there is no reward at the end of the quest, you're not missing out on any crucial content or legendary equipment, so this was not supposed to be a generic solo side quest. More like a wink and a nod to the fo76 community to see if we can crack it together. And as a reward we get a sneak peak at the future update, which at the time was Wastelanders.
I've never heard someone sound more like Tom Hanks (Woody from Toy Story for the young uneducated kids out there) in my life! Iwas convinced this was him in alter ego! Thanks for the help with this
Hey, thank you SO incredibly much for actually showing how to find the damn place!! I've been looking for it for literally */DAYS/* with no luck until this video clued me in about the fact that the downed tree across from the church pretty much points to the door. Thank you again . . . you rock!!!
I found a couple of the letters and had no idea how to follow up. Thank goodness for this video because there's no way I'd have been able to work this all out.
This is why I love watching your lore series vids. Saves me all the time and frustration to figure this stuff out on my own. You connect all the pieces and present it all together, masterfully.
It’s related to wastelanders. There’s a scene in the trailer with the raider boss. Her team blows through the vault door of vault 79. The main story of wastelanders is about finding some treasure. It seems you discovered the treasure before any hint of it. That’s why you needed data miners. Because the quest hasn’t been implemented into the game yet.
Even something so minor as referencing the in-world casinos, the Lucky 38 and Ultra-Luxe, makes me smile. It's Nice to hear that even though there's some sort of "fan war" between Obsidian and Bethesda, they don't always shy away from referencing the West Coast
Every mmo uses instances in response to Everquest... except this one. The fact that they are adding it in only at this point is yet another reason why people love Oxhorn’s vids.. so we dont have to play it ourselves
I have to say, for as frustrated as it might've made people, making them resort to data mining, I kinda like that it doesn't hold our hand all the way through. It makes you pay a little more attention and when you stumble on stuff by pure chance, it makes me feel excited "Oh wait! this is more of that weird conspiracy crap!" and then resparks my interest.
Perhaps, as a Theory, maybe they were building a vault to study Cryptoids... After all, the (Spoiler) Grafton monster was -put into a larger cell to wait for transportation- as did the Snallygaster from the FEV labs, perhaps it was a future site for the FEV study or Cryptozoology.
" How did we miss this " Ya no kidding ! I got a map fragment and never new there was a pawn shop in grafton. Iv passed that door so many times. Thanks for sharing.
I actually kinda like unmarked quests. I feel like it'd work great as like a detective quest, maybe when wastelanders comes out. You have to collect clues and decide whos guilty, with no help from the quest tracker
When I saw the IF on the note, I thought it was a reference to the comany "Idea Factory," a sort of rival to Bethesda, but based out of Japan. They work with the company "Compile Heart" to produce a good number of games, one of which evolved into a massive series that's 10 years old this year. If this is a hidden reference, I would be gobsmacked that Bethesda took the time to do that
I was able to figure it out. I'm not sure any data mined information existed at the time. There are clues all around the pawn shop. The biggest being all the taxidermy, especially the similar used assets (like the calendar and brahmin skull)
Ox love your videos and this one. the clues and puzzles remind me of some old games since you made mention of old. One was the "7th guest" had some very tough puzzles in it. The other was "The Pandora Directive", some one mention calling help lines before the internet became a good working thing, we spent some good money on making it though Pandora on path "A". Brings back some good memories, loved the lore and keep up the good work we love your channel and gear.
watching this after wastelanders comes out is great because i had no idea this was even in the game when i started playing, the care and attention to detail that went into this quest that most people haven't done and won't do is shocking, this would have been a really really good way to build up hype for wastelanders so why they didn't make it a quest even a miscellaneous one is beyond me. It does raise the question of if they plan on or have already done something similar to this and we haven't found it yet, these kinds of mysteries is one of the best thing about FO76 so i hope they do more. amazing video.
Sadly, I think theyre finally listening to a reviewer that... you know how it goes. Best intentions but unintended consequences. A long time back a (primarily) games channel, Hbomberguy, put out a video called "Fallout 3 sucks (and here's why)". One major thing that made him freak out was quest markers. He treated them like the devil. He apparently thought that a world.filled with bad physics, random rubble and ridiculous amounts of shadow was the kind of world where tiny necessary assets should be untethered and found by intuition. Maybe he had a point, probably not, but it was his major complaint. Maybe others echoed it. And Bethesda listened. Maybe they're going to cancel quest markers. That will be a nightmare.
Hey Oxhorn! This all seems to be linked to the Wastelanders DLC which was delayed. I suspect the reason there is no markers or quest details, is because it isn't all in the game yet. The art for the Wastelanders DLC shows a "Vault 79" with a partial open wheel door that have yellow objects in it. The theory is that the abstract art design of such means the 'treasure' is in Vault 79 (or was supoosed to be if it isn't) and we wont be seeing the inside of Vault 79 until Wastelanders has been released early next year.
Happy to say, you are the first person I have ever subscribed to. Love your videos and showmanship, you truly make the lore more gripping. Thank you :)
Great video, as always. As a side note, the term "carjacking" was coined in 1991. So this is either another divergence lore miss, or they're assuming the same term would have happened in both timelines.
My only problem is how can anyone start this quest, get any idea of locations of more info, and what to do after that. I'm getting tired of getting partial quests that are added way to early or can only be done due to data miners doing their research.
48:22 Important note here that he does not mention, you need those 6 numbers for the keypad at the cave in the next step. These numbers are unique to each player, so you need the numbers you get here. You really should have mentioned this BEFORE leaving, instead of mentioning it at the keypad. Also, showing map locations would have been helpful so we wouldn't need to check the Wiki.
I think there will be gold , and government relics , there is still the president xo1 paint in the enclave president inaccessible workshop room ( was accessible at some point through a jetpack glitch) and the unused voting systems scans , printers and the rare valid ballots papers.
One chance to be a super-ultra-top-secret hideaway: Your creators make you part of a sequential set of extremely well known, highly courted vaults that will leave people wondering what happened between 78 and 80
I’m only 3 minutes in at the moment but when you said the map doesn’t have any markings there is a hexagonal shape in the top portion of the Savage Divide.
Looks like it's a quest that isn't ready for prime time yet. They put in some of the content.. but haven't activated it yet. Once Vault 79 gets opened it looks like maybe then all the clues will come together?
it's funny because each one is in a different region. Gasman-Savage Divide Halo-The Mire The Meat-Cranberry Bog Teach-Toxic Valley(Its pretty close Spelunker-Ash Heap Cryptid-The Forest
as a West Virginian, the I-68 weigh station is actually in Bruceton Mills. it also services as a brake check station because from there until you reach Cheat Lake being in the greater Morgantown area is a downgrade the entire way.
I also want to add that I am a trucker as well, all the scales i've gone over measure in the order of 20 lbs increments. As well most, and I do mean most scales close at night. That is why 'outlaw' truckers run during the night, it is easier to not get busted for rolling heavy at night.
I gotta say that I love the lack of help given on this quest (tho yeah maybe a lil excessive in certain cases) because for me alot of the quests in fallout games start t feel like follow the dot on the compass, kill anything in your way till you hit E on the waypoint. This feels like they are attempting to move away from that so even if they get it a lil wrong as they learn I'm all for it.
Oxhorn I have a question in fallout 4 I was swimming in the ocean at the end of the map east and found a raider swimming and I talked to him and he swam under water to a I'm pretty sure a plane that sink and he disappears is this normal?
i think the no quest markers or clear hints thing is trying to call back from the days of elder scrolls morrowind, where you had to find everything yourself with no markers
It’s nice to see Texas(my home state irl)getting mentioned in fallout,personally I’d like to see a dlc or maybe even a new game/spin off based in Texas,as it has lots of military bases,industry(mainly oil and natural resources like steel) but also a diverse amount of biomes,swamps,plains,forests, hell even a bit of desert near Mexico anyway I think it would be kinda cool,it also has a lot of nuclear facilities in it irl surprisingly
76 is a group game. No one player was meant to find everything. I'd wager this was meant to be a scavenger hunt meant to get the entire community hunting the entire map for clues, but dataminers ruined it.
Dude i followed this to the prim, and at the end was like..: i already raided vault 79 xD they should rele take this teaser out now that its a quest lmao
20 million dollars?!? That's almost pocket change. Consider this: if you look at the skill books in Fallout 3, the D.C. Journal of Family Medicine has a price printed on it, that price being 48 dollars. Figure that even in our time, a specialist publication like that could cost over 200 bucks a year to subscribe to, and that means you're getting each monthly issue at a discount, and it still costs over 16 dollars an issue. Prices per gallon for coolant in Fallout 4 are listed in dollars on the big numbers and cents following, and are over 100 bucks a gallon. I'm thinking that the gambling involved was a decidedly penny-ante game for only 20 million dollars, and the reaction was widely overblown. Someone is more likely to have said "Wait until she gets some real money...".
It kind of reminds me of how quests worked in Morrowind. You don’t have a quest marker. You just have to read your journal. And then search. For hours. REAL LIFE hours.
Also, me and my buddy Pynkblud were on the same server while you were recording this. You can feel free to blame him for that incredibly well timed Grafton Day completion
Oh woah, I haven't played since fallout 3, do you have to play on an open server in the new games?
@@jacobburr3570 in 76 it's either in a public server with up to 24 others or in private worlds with up to 8 if you have Fallout 1st. Most of the time players are off doing their own things so sighting another if you aren't actively participating in world events or shopping at their vendors is rare.
I recognize the name of Pynkblud. Cool to know you both managed to get in the same server as good ol Oxhorn!
Oxhorn ive been saying this for about 3 years now but id personally love it if you made a fallout shirt that says "EXPLORE FOR THE LORE" you cant keep me waiting anymore man!!!!!!!!
Thankyou man!!!!!
Yessssss!
Yes
Answer the man Ox wth!
I'd buy that!!
Know what'd be nice? If some of the people connected to the quests in FO76 actually survived, but just fled once the scorchbeasts attacked. Then, once the Wastelanders DLC comes out, you could actually talk to them about what you discovered.
It’s unknown yet but maybe Duchess from the last ITV article can be the same Duchess from Welch but hard to tell until we hear her voice.
It's been twenty-five years. Most of them are dead, dying or too old to travel the wastes. MOST people wh get the kind of radiation poison we're dealing with are NOT going to survive long enough to come back...I'm surprised they have children younger than twenty-five.
While WV was not directly hit and none of it's power plants had melt downs, there is still a LOT of background radiation (not just from the Scorchbests though they don't help) and more coming down every day and without a functional working society yet, we have NO active hospitals or treatment centers, which means no cancer treatments, no burn units, nothing that would actually AID anyone to survive that long.
@@Saitaina People in Fallout generally survive rads pretty decently.
wish granted
@@DIEGhostfish that is true but I personally think that is the case because over the next 200 years after 76 people became more immune to the radiation since humans lived in the irradiated wasteland all the time.
It's so cool how this quest acknowledges New Vegas and their casinos. However, I also feel a bit frustrated that there aren't more clues that link Shanghai Sally to this whole conspiracy. What did she know? Why she went rogue and had the military chasing her? Was she trying to hide herself in Vegas to be protected from military harm? So many questions to be answered
This takes place BEFORE New Vegas though....
@@shadowforge I'm aware of that. But FNV was considered like a side story of the franchise and small details such as these fill you with a sensation of awe and renew your spirit to replay your old games, just to check if you skipped a tiny little detail that connects these stories further.
I was replaying Fallout 4 the other day and noticed several small nods to New Vegas. Jack Cabot mentions wanting to go to the Mojave in search of remaining alien artifacts, Mr House is mentioned by name as one of the famous C.I.T graduates and several flavors of Nuka Cola which originally only appeared in New Vegas make their return in the game.
IIRC, the Lucky 38 (where Shanghai Sally supposedly had a room) wasn't opened to the public before the Great War. I'd like to know how she got in, considering that Robert House was a weirdo who probably couldn't be bribed.
@@shadowforge At Least it does confirm that The Ultra Luxe and Lucky 38 are officially canon now
Theory: 79 the Atomic number for gold. Aka treasure which Rose I believe was trying to find and is why raiders and settlers come out of state with Wastelanders. Plus the vault number is shown in the DLC artwork.
So gold storage?
It's the fallout fort Nox
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it had a fuck ton of enclave officials in there as well.
Disturbed Renegade I kind of wonder if there will be the Enclave return or a division of it with the Secret Service. Need a sort of third party faction besides raiders and settlers and devs have stated there are more factions than the two that players can join. There has been more discovery just on the trailer footage alone that Bethesda released. (hint look at the PW in the underground scene)
Lore and More Fort Knox*
Jaymacibe this makes sense. The US Gov’t likely would need to have need the gold for rebuilding the economy or in the case of the AER-14, laser rifles
5:47 I think that the semingly random stuff that you find in that room were hints to where you needed to find what was needed to fill up the empty spaces on the board. Example being the detective case files being a subtle hint to go look for the police station to get the package. When you think about it makes sense as to why there are two misc. items that would seem to be completely out of place, but were actually hints for where you needed to go.
When you do a playthrough you always sound like you are actually there. I like it
You've brought me nothing but nightmares Garvey 😐
I think it's safe to say Ox didn't find the blacklight by the sound of the overt sarcasm.
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@@talthan In the early part of the video Ox has a minor rant about the clues to where the packages are found. He's rather sarcastic throughout, hence my original comment. His critique is valid but it's still funny how p*ssed off he is by how obtuse the clues are.
I figured they were a sort of community puzzle not meant to be solved by 1 person but by the effort of the community as whole investigating it. Or like 1 dataminer who has to ruin the surprise. I swear dataminers are the type of person who read only the last page of a book.
@@PlebNC oh...Ok i get it now...
A few buddies and myself were able to figure it out without any datamining. Finding the blacklight helped point us in the right direction, even if those labels were pretty esoteric. Finding the first clue (in Senator Blackwells office) really helped point us to all of the others
You guys did it without data mining. The next Fallout Lore detectives right here.
Damn you guys are good. That's like the first people that complete quests in osrs and help write the guide. I don't know how you guys do it :o
I can´t help but still love the world of Fallout and all the mysteries and secrets you can find in it if you are observant enough.
I think that despite the high speed train wreck that is 76, or even the let down that 4 was for many people, many of the actual developers who worked on these games really cared about telling a good story.
@@a15godzilla its why i keep telling people the fish rots from the head down. I sure if the devs actually had time to test and fine-tune the game instead of having to follow leadership's demand of making a buck only the game could have turned out considerably better. Especially if there are multiple betas and chances to properly test everything
@@a15godzilla I actually came back to 76 after stopping about a month after launch and am really, really enjoying the game in its current state after Devs have poured their heart and souls into making fixes as well as the upcoming expansion (human NPC questline with instancing that involves decision making for permanent outcomes).
Launch really was an absolute travesty despite this and absolutely blame Zenimax studios' greed. Todd and his team were given a project that was a mutated version of their original goal, a multiplayer Fallout game. Give it a little more time and I think they will seize that dream back. Again, they've already made some pretty huge strides.
@@That1J1 I haven't played a whole lot, but I really liked what I did play, despite the chinese fire drill Bethesda seems to be running. I was under the assumption that it was a lesser branch of Bethesda that did a lot of the work on the game. I wouldn't be surprised if they were a barely running skeleton crew. Would explain many of the current issues, which just isn't fair for them if that is the case.
@@a15godzilla it's interesting, the team has definitely had a boost in revenue with their atomic shop despite how much people hate it it feels like.
Bethesda cited that in 2019 over a billion atoms were spent. If only half of them were purchased, that is still them grossing between 2M and 9M dollars. They also sold 1.4M copies of the game by the end of 2018 (another 41M, averaged a sale price of 30 dollars a game to be conservative). Soooo yeah, 50M in revenue with a team of 30 isn't too shabby.
Even if they spend a smidge of money that they have made back on the game, that is some solid content.
I'm really hoping this translates to that, would not hesitate to think so if this were 2017, but I just don't trust them enough and will believe it when I see it.
Thank you for the “old” joke. Otherwise thanks for doing this quest so I can now Finnish it!
It was a good song by Sugar Ray... or was it nostalgia... Am I old, I best check my commadore 64
Oxhorn having a mental breakdown trying to figure out where the clues are is very realistic to how I felt
"And a Molerat!" needs to be on a shirt.
Ha ha ha... Calm down, Ox. This quest almost turned you into a conspiracy theorist! 😆
"Conspiracy Theorist" was a term invented by the government to keep you from finding the truth! Keep hunting for the clues about 79.
Clayton Koskey well he might get the chance to look into it soon since it does say on a wiki that it might come out with wastelanders dlc witch is just a few months away
But that’s just a theory, A LORE THEORY!
Did it come with wastelanders?
@@Eireann. yeah 79 is open now its part of the quest line with the settlers or raider factions
To be honest. This was the best storyline they could’ve come up with to get to vault 79. It gave me sooo many chills when you came up to vault 79 lol. I had no idea there was the elevator and the door with passcode
I can tell he’s gearing up for wastelanders. Can’t wait for him to cover 76 again
So happy to watch more Fallout 76 content from you!! I'm so excited to watch you play the game again in future! I MISS the F76 live streams. Thank you for all you do, Oxhorn!!! Love your channel ^_^ Happy holidays!
I find it interesting hearing you talk about the Harpers Ferry trainyard when just this morning there was a train crash this morning in Harpers Ferry.
*X Files music plays*
Oxhorn: Coincidence...?
Me: ...I think not!
Huzzah, A man of quality!
Ox:"Postal Carrier Protectrons "
Me"Um, the Terminal said Handies, not Protectrons... "
Yeep.
7:40 That was some Adam West type of detective work!
You put a LOT of work on this video, thanks ox! It was appreciated.
I really want to try this myself, but I don’t think I have the time... so maybe later I’ll hop back to 76
Can’t wait to see what’s inside!
Ox is back.tell a friend.
76 is buggy and crashing a lot, but still love the lore that's in the game if you look. And thanks oxhorn for bringing us all this lore for those of us that can't get past the crashes.
Not for me. Fallout 76 runs smoothly for me. Maybe because I have the pro version of ps4
I never have crashed and i owned this game 5 months.
Not a huge fan of the lore pre-emptying.the area, or hive mind diseases, or overreliance on aliens and the supernatural when even the Black Isle team said they put too much of that in Fallout 2 and wanted to walk back the canon status. But some of the stuff's pretty cool.
@@DIEGhostfish I feel very similarly, and like that they are adding the conspiracies on the side rather than making them so in your face. After following a lot of the regular story, I missed a lot of the crazy fringe stuff like this.
@@That1J1 Yeah. I like when things are a little more grounded and the conspiracies are ultimately human in origin.
@oxhorn wouldn't the other 6 packages have been the map fragments? "Teacher", Spelunker", "The Meat", "Cryptid", "Gasman", and "Halo"?
Yeah, they were. He already went over that.
US Army: *Kills five people in the Ultra Lux*
The Courier: You gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers.
8100³yrd × 3= 24,300³feet. I'm no engineer, so correct me if I'm wrong (anyone) but that sounds like a reasonable amount of concrete for some of the large bunkers we find in the fallout universe.
It's not 24,300 cubic feet. It's 218,700 cubic feet, a cubic yard is 27 cubic feet. Both invoices together equal 442,800 cubic feet, I don't have any real concept for how much that is.
Actually, I found a handy calculator, 16400 cu yards of concrete will make a single slab of concrete 600 feet wide by 600 feet long by 14.76 inches thick. That's almost enough space to fit eight American football fields on in a 2x4 grid, if you drop the end zones and make them a little skinnier.
But doesn't that seem a bit excessive, even for a Vault?
You gotta remember that probably at least half of the vault would be "hollow". You're calculations are assuming this is all just one giant block of concrete, which it's not.
@@Dat-Mudkip How big do you want the vault to be? Making it hollow just means the building materials can be "stretched" further.
Very roughly speaking, I don't have the calculations on hand that I did 2 weeks ago, 16,400 cu yards of concrete will produce something like 200 1500 sq ft rooms but that's if they only use it to make rooms and not for other things, like hallways, foundation footing, pillars, and all the other important little things that go into construction
Also, I wasn't assuming anything, I offered the slab because I felt it would more clearly illustrate, in the most straight forward terms possible, the sheer amount of concrete in question. I could have just as easily said 360,000 1 foot x 1 foot x 14.76 inch blocks and expected anyone reading it to imagine building the Vault (Minecraft-style) out of them, but I didn't.
"That's a big blackboard I wanna fill it in ! " best line ever
@Oxhorn - On the shelf under the terminal in Clarksburg Post office that had the dead man's switch on it there's a note. If I remember correctly it's a correspondence between 999 and Flavia.
My god, rewatching this and listening to you try to piece together what you need to do to figure out the mystery by using nonsense clues reminds me SO much of South Park when the scientist does the same thing. Dying laughing right now. Lol.
Classic Oxhorn lore video that we all know and love!!! Great work Ox!
You do lore better than anyone, Oxhorn! Love the vocal intonations that just increase the amusement value of your work. Keep it up, big fella. And keep those suspenders stretched tight!!
For monetary context, the Fallout Universe pre-war dollar had undergone MASSIVE inflation, and had very little value. For example, the price tag for an issue of Guns and Bullets, ostensibly an analogue for Guns and Ammo, a $5 magazine, cost $33 (it's right there on the covers). Other such mags with visible price tags are similarly priced, with Hot Rodders being priced at $35, Robco Fun costing $40, and Astoundingly Awesome Tales costing $29. (Being expies of Hot Rod magazine, $8, Gaming magazine, $9, and Amazing Stories magazine, which used to sell for $7 an issue but is now more of a novel and anthology publishing company) Meaning that that 10,000 dollar fine was probably valued at more around 2k or maybe even $1500 in value. This is actually why Pre-War Money is just about ALWAYS found in STACKS... a couple of bills wouldn't buy you ANYTHING.
I'm so happy Galveston, Tx Was acknowledged in the fallout series!!!
I don't think Bethesda intended datamining to be the solution to this quest. I can't imagine devs discussing it like "ok but no quest markers, if they want to complete the quest they need to be able to datamine lmao"
Datamining is just what we, the players, used as a shortcut to find the solution quicker. The quest was supposed to be like a big mystery, and Beth expected the community to solve it together (since it's an online game). Many other games have the same type of hidden secrets that people on forums or reddit discuss, share clues and figure out together. Like FF:06:B5 mystery in Cyberpunk for example. Unfortunately datamining kind of ruined the fun and the mystery of it all.
As you see there is no reward at the end of the quest, you're not missing out on any crucial content or legendary equipment, so this was not supposed to be a generic solo side quest. More like a wink and a nod to the fo76 community to see if we can crack it together. And as a reward we get a sneak peak at the future update, which at the time was Wastelanders.
I've never heard someone sound more like Tom Hanks (Woody from Toy Story for the young uneducated kids out there) in my life! Iwas convinced this was him in alter ego! Thanks for the help with this
Hey, thank you SO incredibly much for actually showing how to find the damn place!! I've been looking for it for literally */DAYS/* with no luck until this video clued me in about the fact that the downed tree across from the church pretty much points to the door. Thank you again . . . you rock!!!
I found a couple of the letters and had no idea how to follow up. Thank goodness for this video because there's no way I'd have been able to work this all out.
This is why I love watching your lore series vids. Saves me all the time and frustration to figure this stuff out on my own. You connect all the pieces and present it all together, masterfully.
Thanks Ox 🙂 this is a case for Nick Valentine. And Merry ScorchedMass Ox and Oxettes 🌲🎁
Enjoy Christmas Oxhorn:)
I think this is a part of the upcoming Wastelanders which is why it had to be data mined.
DING
That's the sound of a nail getting hit on the head.
It’s related to wastelanders. There’s a scene in the trailer with the raider boss. Her team blows through the vault door of vault 79. The main story of wastelanders is about finding some treasure. It seems you discovered the treasure before any hint of it. That’s why you needed data miners. Because the quest hasn’t been implemented into the game yet.
The walkthroughs you do are more entertaining than most television.
Even something so minor as referencing the in-world casinos, the Lucky 38 and Ultra-Luxe, makes me smile. It's Nice to hear that even though there's some sort of "fan war" between Obsidian and Bethesda, they don't always shy away from referencing the West Coast
Did you know oxhorn that this location uses that instancing technology they have been talking about
This seems like it's as good a place as any to ask, so if anyone knows where I can find more on this?
@@amoe_raven4148 The instancing tech? Bethesda's Inside The Vault articles touch on it here and there.
Every mmo uses instances in response to Everquest... except this one.
The fact that they are adding it in only at this point is yet another reason why people love Oxhorn’s vids.. so we dont have to play it ourselves
Hahahaha Sugar Ray reference, idc if it makes me old I still love that song.
I have to say, for as frustrated as it might've made people, making them resort to data mining, I kinda like that it doesn't hold our hand all the way through. It makes you pay a little more attention and when you stumble on stuff by pure chance, it makes me feel excited "Oh wait! this is more of that weird conspiracy crap!" and then resparks my interest.
Perhaps, as a Theory, maybe they were building a vault to study Cryptoids... After all, the (Spoiler) Grafton monster was -put into a larger cell to wait for transportation- as did the Snallygaster from the FEV labs, perhaps it was a future site for the FEV study or Cryptozoology.
" How did we miss this " Ya no kidding ! I got a map fragment and never new there was a pawn shop in grafton. Iv passed that door so many times. Thanks for sharing.
Oxhorn you missed the first CLUE!!!! in the room there a black light that tell you clues to the others but you find it late 43:19
When the game does not exactly give any idea how it works, our fellow mindful gamers give us the wholesome means of getting them through.
I actually kinda like unmarked quests. I feel like it'd work great as like a detective quest, maybe when wastelanders comes out. You have to collect clues and decide whos guilty, with no help from the quest tracker
Really happy to see you back on 76, can you do White spring bunker, may take 2 vids
He already covered the bunker I believe.
"I wanna fill it in, but where do we begin?" Heh. You're a poet and you didn't know it-
8:30 that is the most salty I have ever heard Oxhorn! I love it! It was well deserved!
Funny. I’ve been picking up random papers for over a year not knowing what the go to. I walk up to the board and I had all of them already.
When I saw the IF on the note, I thought it was a reference to the comany "Idea Factory," a sort of rival to Bethesda, but based out of Japan. They work with the company "Compile Heart" to produce a good number of games, one of which evolved into a massive series that's 10 years old this year. If this is a hidden reference, I would be gobsmacked that Bethesda took the time to do that
I was able to figure it out. I'm not sure any data mined information existed at the time. There are clues all around the pawn shop. The biggest being all the taxidermy, especially the similar used assets (like the calendar and brahmin skull)
The black light gives you the clues
Merry Christmas everyone and oxhorn
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@@jackschitt1709 wesołych świąt do ciebie
Ox love your videos and this one. the clues and puzzles remind me of some old games since you made mention of old. One was the "7th guest" had some very tough puzzles in it. The other was "The Pandora Directive", some one mention calling help lines before the internet became a good working thing, we spent some good money on making it though Pandora on path "A". Brings back some good memories, loved the lore and keep up the good work we love your channel and gear.
It's funny coming back to see this after the wastelanders update
watching this after wastelanders comes out is great because i had no idea this was even in the game when i started playing, the care and attention to detail that went into this quest that most people haven't done and won't do is shocking, this would have been a really really good way to build up hype for wastelanders so why they didn't make it a quest even a miscellaneous one is beyond me. It does raise the question of if they plan on or have already done something similar to this and we haven't found it yet, these kinds of mysteries is one of the best thing about FO76 so i hope they do more. amazing video.
Sadly, I think theyre finally listening to a reviewer that... you know how it goes. Best intentions but unintended consequences.
A long time back a (primarily) games channel, Hbomberguy, put out a video called "Fallout 3 sucks (and here's why)". One major thing that made him freak out was quest markers. He treated them like the devil. He apparently thought that a world.filled with bad physics, random rubble and ridiculous amounts of shadow was the kind of world where tiny necessary assets should be untethered and found by intuition. Maybe he had a point, probably not, but it was his major complaint. Maybe others echoed it. And Bethesda listened. Maybe they're going to cancel quest markers. That will be a nightmare.
Apparently I'm old. I caught your Sugar Ray reference, Ox. Lol! Love your work, brother!
Hey Oxhorn! This all seems to be linked to the Wastelanders DLC which was delayed. I suspect the reason there is no markers or quest details, is because it isn't all in the game yet. The art for the Wastelanders DLC shows a "Vault 79" with a partial open wheel door that have yellow objects in it. The theory is that the abstract art design of such means the 'treasure' is in Vault 79 (or was supoosed to be if it isn't) and we wont be seeing the inside of Vault 79 until Wastelanders has been released early next year.
Happy to say, you are the first person I have ever subscribed to. Love your videos and showmanship, you truly make the lore more gripping. Thank you :)
you missed a note in the clarksburg post office, look under the terminal on the shelf
you can see it here
17:17
Great video, as always. As a side note, the term "carjacking" was coined in 1991. So this is either another divergence lore miss, or they're assuming the same term would have happened in both timelines.
“I don’t need sleep, I need answers!”
“We find three fish on the wall, hopefully not of the singing variety” fucking killed me
Be free from the tyranny of the quest marker! Brainpower!
My only problem is how can anyone start this quest, get any idea of locations of more info, and what to do after that. I'm getting tired of getting partial quests that are added way to early or can only be done due to data miners doing their research.
48:22 Important note here that he does not mention, you need those 6 numbers for the keypad at the cave in the next step. These numbers are unique to each player, so you need the numbers you get here. You really should have mentioned this BEFORE leaving, instead of mentioning it at the keypad. Also, showing map locations would have been helpful so we wouldn't need to check the Wiki.
You should do a video about senator Sam blackwell, from the fallout universe
He did it months ago.
Late to the party but I'm glad you're still putting out content for 76!
Mojave Express anyone. Now all we need is a platinum chip, man in a checkered suit named Benny and be a few thousand miles to the west.
You also need a century and several decades to allow for that given that FO76 is only 25 years after the bombs dropped whereas NV is much later.
I think there will be gold , and government relics , there is still the president xo1 paint in the enclave president inaccessible workshop room ( was accessible at some point through a jetpack glitch) and the unused voting systems scans , printers and the rare valid ballots papers.
One chance to be a super-ultra-top-secret hideaway: Your creators make you part of a sequential set of extremely well known, highly courted vaults that will leave people wondering what happened between 78 and 80
46:33 A restaurant that sells The Meat? Arby’s!
I’m only 3 minutes in at the moment but when you said the map doesn’t have any markings there is a hexagonal shape in the top portion of the Savage Divide.
Looks like it's a quest that isn't ready for prime time yet. They put in some of the content.. but haven't activated it yet. Once Vault 79 gets opened it looks like maybe then all the clues will come together?
I knew we could do it but I never go back to those locations nor would I have thought to. Thanks for the vid!
I think...that I'm old. I had started humming that song half a second before you reminded me of my personal experience level.
It’s so impressive how they set this up to all lead towards wastelanders!
it's funny because each one is in a different region.
Gasman-Savage Divide
Halo-The Mire
The Meat-Cranberry Bog
Teach-Toxic Valley(Its pretty close
Spelunker-Ash Heap
Cryptid-The Forest
as a West Virginian, the I-68 weigh station is actually in Bruceton Mills. it also services as a brake check station because from there until you reach Cheat Lake being in the greater Morgantown area is a downgrade the entire way.
I also want to add that I am a trucker as well, all the scales i've gone over measure in the order of 20 lbs increments. As well most, and I do mean most scales close at night. That is why 'outlaw' truckers run during the night, it is easier to not get busted for rolling heavy at night.
I gotta say that I love the lack of help given on this quest (tho yeah maybe a lil excessive in certain cases) because for me alot of the quests in fallout games start t feel like follow the dot on the compass, kill anything in your way till you hit E on the waypoint. This feels like they are attempting to move away from that so even if they get it a lil wrong as they learn I'm all for it.
glad you're feeling better ox
console commands: Disable clipping and see what is on the other side of the door!
Oxhorn I have a question in fallout 4 I was swimming in the ocean at the end of the map east and found a raider swimming and I talked to him and he swam under water to a I'm pretty sure a plane that sink and he disappears is this normal?
Look at the wiki or something.
Let me know what you find out and where in fallout 4 was it?
i think the no quest markers or clear hints thing is trying to call back from the days of elder scrolls morrowind, where you had to find everything yourself with no markers
It’s nice to see Texas(my home state irl)getting mentioned in fallout,personally I’d like to see a dlc or maybe even a new game/spin off based in Texas,as it has lots of military bases,industry(mainly oil and natural resources like steel) but also a diverse amount of biomes,swamps,plains,forests,
hell even a bit of desert near Mexico anyway I think it would be kinda cool,it also has a lot of nuclear facilities in it irl surprisingly
I'm calling your bluff on the forests.
A small pack of trees? Sure
A forest? No way.
@@Riflery looks like someone never had a geography lesson
“The cave we want us directly above this one”, ah but of course, this could in no way be confusing.....
76 is a group game. No one player was meant to find everything. I'd wager this was meant to be a scavenger hunt meant to get the entire community hunting the entire map for clues, but dataminers ruined it.
Datamining: Because every party needs a pooper.
Dude i followed this to the prim, and at the end was like..: i already raided vault 79 xD they should rele take this teaser out now that its a quest lmao
Wow! I had found the package in Charleston, and the note in the post office before, but I never found the pawn shop. I guess I know where to go next
i freaking love you man. you and camelworks are the best youtubers focusing on gaming lore period!
20 million dollars?!? That's almost pocket change. Consider this: if you look at the skill books in Fallout 3, the D.C. Journal of Family Medicine has a price printed on it, that price being 48 dollars. Figure that even in our time, a specialist publication like that could cost over 200 bucks a year to subscribe to, and that means you're getting each monthly issue at a discount, and it still costs over 16 dollars an issue. Prices per gallon for coolant in Fallout 4 are listed in dollars on the big numbers and cents following, and are over 100 bucks a gallon.
I'm thinking that the gambling involved was a decidedly penny-ante game for only 20 million dollars, and the reaction was widely overblown. Someone is more likely to have said "Wait until she gets some real money...".
It kind of reminds me of how quests worked in Morrowind. You don’t have a quest marker. You just have to read your journal. And then search. For hours. REAL LIFE hours.