Aside from the great video as always, i just want to state that this is a great channel. I'm looking forward to every update, every new video and i love how passionate you are about the comics. Detailed descriptions, thoughtful insights and very charismatic and likeable voice and manner of speech makes this even more enjoyable. Thumbs up to you and i hope this channel grows rapidly and extensively as it deserves.
Only really just getting started with Graphic Novels. I've dabbled before but never fully committed but I'm planning to do that now. The Watchmen is obviously one of those stories that everyone knows of. I will definitely read it though I'm probably going to hold off right now. It's always come across as a deep and complex work, approachable maybe but still a challenge. So yeah I think I will work on the series that have taken my fancy so far and eventually make my way to this lauded graphic novel. Great Video! :D
BlaizeV Not a bad strategy. It is a challenging and complex work, but you shouldn’t think it’s not a page-turning thriller either. It’s just that everything can you give you ‘aha’’ moments, not just the plot. The plot and mood have often been imitated, but not the accomplishment in craft I feel.
Ok, this is a year old video, but I just found it now. Man, I love Watchmen! As a kid I have read lots of comics, but mostly Spiderman/Superman/Batman issues, since those were the available ones in my country at the time. But then starting from high school I totally forgot about comics. It was around 15 years later when the Watchmen movie got released. I never heard of Watchmen until that. Long story short, I was mind blown by it and that's what got me back to read comics and graphic novels. Never stopped since.
I too had a few years - the dark ages - between school and university where I wasn't reading comics, and Watchmen was , for me too, a comic that bridged my return to them. And while I still read the occasional Marvel/DC from time to time, the world of comics is so huge and diverse that eventually I had no choice but to make a channel to share what I had found! 😁
I remember how Dr Manhattan the detached logical executioner started feeling some nostalgia for the human domain on mars which is a contradiction when his wife started started being cynical and nihilistic, I mean it was like Shiva and shakti merging in a complimentary functioning , I mean alan moore didn't put a sign on Manhattan's ajna chakra by mistake
Watch is not only the best comic/graphic novel I've ever read, but one the best books I've ever read. The illusions are incredible, and the plot is really really good. It's legacy in option ruined comics not because of it's dark and mature nature, but after it's run every comic wanted to be dark and edgy without the talent of Allen Moore.
I love the work too, as is perhaps obvious. Yes pity about the poorer imitators, but that is the curse of anything great; it doesn't detract from the original, luckily.
Blabla Bla Thanks for watching and commenting! Although I have strong opinions on the movie too, I think of this channel as being strictly about comics. Just a personal thing, but I feel that movie and tv oriented shows and commentary are quite common, and a strict focus on just the comics medium, with all its powers and capabilities, is a little rarer. I’m sure we can find movie to comics comparisons better than I could do, so for now perhaps I’ll stick to comics as my strength?
For the Love of Comics it's okay. Your wish. But there are some glaring faults with the comic book/graphic novel. Can you make a video on those faults? One of them is Ozymandias trying to disintegrate Osterman using the Intrinsic Field Subtractor.
I just read watchmen for the first time. I have to say that while it was a great read, this video (and most commentary about it) really oversells it. It reminds me of the beatles
The short version is I loved the first volume, liked half of the second volume quite a lot, didn't care for the Black Dossier, thought the Nemo books were good fun, and liked Century by the time it finished more than I thought I would. All in all I consider it a really smart and fun series, with some excesses but still very worthwhile. I'm waiting to get a good copy/copies of the new series to read in one go.
Have you seen our Shelf Two video? It's the 'Alan Moore' shelf (among other names for it), and features the ABC line in hardcover, in case you're interested. ua-cam.com/video/Xf2xutLlTjE/v-deo.html
I’ve seen dozens of videos about Watchmen and most of them, if not all of them fail to describe what is Watchmen and what makes it so important to the comic medium, compared to you. You my friend hit the nail. Bravo! I would like to hear your thoughts on Doomsday Clock since it’s a straight up sequel to the story of Watchmen.
Thanks so much for the great review! I’m thrilled you enjoyed the video and I hope you like the other videos, and types of videos, on this channel as well. Re: Doomsday Clock, I’ve been even less interested in it than I was in Before Watchmen. It just didn’t sound like something up my alley: I don’t read much ‘in-continuity’ Marvel/ DC stuff these days anyway, and I’ve never understood the need to make standalone masterpieces part of larger universes. But that’s just me; now, if the original creators returned for a sequel, I’d still be leery, after all the these years, but maybe I’d check it out. But I never really looked for a sequel/spin-off from this story anyway, from anyone.
@@ftloc I understand your viewpoint and i sympathize with it, since i didn't want them to touch (my) Watchmen whatsoever. But i told myself to give a chance to this new effort since Geoff Johns and Gary Frank seem to respect the original material and what it represents. If you get the chance do give it a chance. Please do continue your videos, they are inspiring and helpful. I myself have a ''small'' request. Please discuss works like Neils Geiman;s Sandman, Alan Moore's V for Vendetta, Swamp Thing. Art Spiegelman's Mouse. etc. Which i am sure you read most of these.
@@drhanzo91 I may give Doomsday Clock a read once it's completed and collected in a trade. But I think it is unlikely, to be perfectly honest, that I will overcome my bias! It was worse for Before Watchmen, I tell you! =)
Oh that's a potent question! Of course it is highly subjective, and one of these days I am going to have my Top 10 Alan Moore comics video up (it lost in the last poll) but I am pretty sure Watchmen would be right up there for most people!
Do you mean you are more interested in superheroes but have never read any superhero comics? Bone is a wonderful series, by the way, and it gets really epic as it goes along too!
Hope you had a chance to watch the HBO Watchmen miniseries. It was excellent. I wonder if Dr. Manhattan was based on a combination of Shiva and Vishnu.
I did, and I liked it a fair bit, although not as much, I suspect, as many others. (This wasn't because I was comparing it to the comic or had expectations based on that, but for purely TV/movie reasons) And yes, there's definitely a lot of the mythic pantheon destroyer/protector in Manhattan, and I wouldn't be surprised if inspiration is taken from myriad sources. Superheroes and gods are commonly linked, of course, and popular depictions (blue skin, glowing halos, etc) and their interest or disinterest in the comings and goings of 'puny humans' is another common theme.
Man it is sad, I love serious themed graphic novels. I am more of a manga reader(mostly seinen), but Watchmen was my first comic, though I don't like superheroes I am a big fan of deconstruction of heroes in any ways(One Punch Man and The Boys Tv show are my favorites) but when I read Watchmen I just didn't like it... I have read it on my phone maybe this was the cause but otherwise I have read Berserk on my phone too but love it.
I do think two page layouts and pacing are critical in this book. From what I've read of Berserk, which I have enjoyed, it can be read a lot 'faster' and a lot of the velocity lies in jumping from panel to panel. Here, seeing them all laid out to pace and unravel the story, while laying on more motifs and symbols, is vital. Still, not everyone has to love everything and there are some valid criticisms that will always apply to even the most hailed works. Have you read Astro City, a different kind of serious but sincere deconstruction? What do you think of that?
I’m here because the HBO series has me utterly confused and I am not a comic book person, in the least. I prefer literary novels to graphic ones. I must say though, the world of comic book fandom has been hiding very handsome participants. 🤔
Haha thank you - the trick is to keep one's face out of focus! 😋 But honestly, comics as a medium can be as literary as prose or cinema, it all depends on how the form is used. In case you are interested in standlone, non superhero reads, I have a bunch of comics recommendations that readers of prose may enjoy in this video: ua-cam.com/video/dYe4MG-OrO8/v-deo.html (and of course, the rest of my channel!) I hope you discover some interesting books!
Well I remember myself in the 90s reading comics , and if the story was interesting , in one issue lets say, because only that you would have for the month, it would be impossible to read it only twice, so I had to read this back then , it just wasn't accessible to us back then, meaning greece
@@ftloc ohhhhh noooo😁 I only read it in single volume all at once, and not too long ago to forget it enough to re read it, all I meant is if I read it the way I did back then it would sunk better, but who can stop the impulse to jump to the next issue 😆especially if you like rorsachs mission to take revenge, plus in mid 90s I wouldnt be able to understand it, I just remember the way I read monthly comics back then and you were somehow forced by time and enthusiasm to read the issues and they really sunk in
@@axilleaskazuya5370 Ah got it! Yes, it would probably have been a very different experience to re-read the same issue three or four times before getting the next installment for sure! If it was me in India though, there would be no guarantee that the next one would ever become available, or that you would start with issue 1, so things would be a total hodgepodge! That is probably why Disney comics, Archie comics and Tintin/ Asterix were so popular, they were all (for the most) standalone stories in each 'issue' !
@@ftloc haha yeah I know same here, I remember the Carl barks and Don Rosa comics monthly also the bit more expensive ones such as lucky Luke and asterix , but the one that blew me away for the first time I remember is reading a storm comic from don lawrence which I found in an island here on vacations that had bit more mature quote content such I was able to collect then only 3 issues
Aside from the great video as always, i just want to state that this is a great channel. I'm looking forward to every update, every new video and i love how passionate you are about the comics. Detailed descriptions, thoughtful insights and very charismatic and likeable voice and manner of speech makes this even more enjoyable. Thumbs up to you and i hope this channel grows rapidly and extensively as it deserves.
Wow, thank you - this just makes my day! Thanks for your kind words and support thus far; this is the most encouraging thing I can think of!
This is a very concise introduction for the series. Can't wait for the other videos!
Thank you! Yes, I waned to avoid spoilers but also gush - apparently much harder to do than it sounded!
10 out of 5 stars analysis! Love your stuff!
Thank you! That's much appreciated!
Only really just getting started with Graphic Novels. I've dabbled before but never fully committed but I'm planning to do that now. The Watchmen is obviously one of those stories that everyone knows of. I will definitely read it though I'm probably going to hold off right now. It's always come across as a deep and complex work, approachable maybe but still a challenge. So yeah I think I will work on the series that have taken my fancy so far and eventually make my way to this lauded graphic novel.
Great Video! :D
BlaizeV Not a bad strategy. It is a challenging and complex work, but you shouldn’t think it’s not a page-turning thriller either. It’s just that everything can you give you ‘aha’’ moments, not just the plot. The plot and mood have often been imitated, but not the accomplishment in craft I feel.
Thank you for this elaborate 'brief' on Watchmen.
Thank *you* for watching!
beautifully written analysis
Thank you so much; I'm thrilled you enjoyed it!
Excellent review.
Thanks so much for saying so!
fantastic video
Thanks so much; glad you enjoyed it!
Great video again. 👍🏽👍🏽 just bought the complete Bone book 📖 going by your suggestion...🙂
That's great; I always think you can't not love Bone, but of course I'm biased!
Ok, this is a year old video, but I just found it now. Man, I love Watchmen! As a kid I have read lots of comics, but mostly Spiderman/Superman/Batman issues, since those were the available ones in my country at the time. But then starting from high school I totally forgot about comics. It was around 15 years later when the Watchmen movie got released. I never heard of Watchmen until that. Long story short, I was mind blown by it and that's what got me back to read comics and graphic novels. Never stopped since.
I too had a few years - the dark ages - between school and university where I wasn't reading comics, and Watchmen was , for me too, a comic that bridged my return to them. And while I still read the occasional Marvel/DC from time to time, the world of comics is so huge and diverse that eventually I had no choice but to make a channel to share what I had found! 😁
@@ftloc I'm glad that your lack of choices led to this! :)
I remember how Dr Manhattan the detached logical executioner started feeling some nostalgia for the human domain on mars which is a contradiction when his wife started started being cynical and nihilistic, I mean it was like Shiva and shakti merging in a complimentary functioning , I mean alan moore didn't put a sign on Manhattan's ajna chakra by mistake
What an interesting correlation! Manhattan definitely comes across as the embodiment of detached godliness...
Ok..I have watched the Synder movie..now am gonna by the book..
As always..good work bro..👍
Watch is not only the best comic/graphic novel I've ever read, but one the best books I've ever read. The illusions are incredible, and the plot is really really good. It's legacy in option ruined comics not because of it's dark and mature nature, but after it's run every comic wanted to be dark and edgy without the talent of Allen Moore.
I love the work too, as is perhaps obvious. Yes pity about the poorer imitators, but that is the curse of anything great; it doesn't detract from the original, luckily.
Fantastic!
Can you post a video on the difference between Watchmen (2009) and Watchmen comics?
Blabla Bla Thanks for watching and commenting! Although I have strong opinions on the movie too, I think of this channel as being strictly about comics. Just a personal thing, but I feel that movie and tv oriented shows and commentary are quite common, and a strict focus on just the comics medium, with all its powers and capabilities, is a little rarer. I’m sure we can find movie to comics comparisons better than I could do, so for now perhaps I’ll stick to comics as my strength?
For the Love of Comics it's okay. Your wish. But there are some glaring faults with the comic book/graphic novel. Can you make a video on those faults? One of them is Ozymandias trying to disintegrate Osterman using the Intrinsic Field Subtractor.
@@blablabla7396 I think you're on the wrong channel. This man's an intellectual, not a nit-picker.
I just read watchmen for the first time. I have to say that while it was a great read, this video (and most commentary about it) really oversells it. It reminds me of the beatles
I'm just a kid but I love watchmen so much even though it has its own flaws (a bit too many). Rorschach is my favourite.
What are your thoughts on the league of extraordinary gentlemen...I just read the first volume and loved it.
The short version is I loved the first volume, liked half of the second volume quite a lot, didn't care for the Black Dossier, thought the Nemo books were good fun, and liked Century by the time it finished more than I thought I would. All in all I consider it a really smart and fun series, with some excesses but still very worthwhile. I'm waiting to get a good copy/copies of the new series to read in one go.
For the Love of Comics , sounds cool, I’m saving for a cool hardcover edition of the first volume, myself
Have you seen our Shelf Two video? It's the 'Alan Moore' shelf (among other names for it), and features the ABC line in hardcover, in case you're interested. ua-cam.com/video/Xf2xutLlTjE/v-deo.html
Great work !
Glad you liked it!
I’ve seen dozens of videos about Watchmen and most of them, if not all of them fail to describe what is Watchmen and what makes it so important to the comic medium, compared to you. You my friend hit the nail. Bravo!
I would like to hear your thoughts on Doomsday Clock since it’s a straight up sequel to the story of Watchmen.
Thanks so much for the great review! I’m thrilled you enjoyed the video and I hope you like the other videos, and types of videos, on this channel as well.
Re: Doomsday Clock, I’ve been even less interested in it than I was in Before Watchmen. It just didn’t sound like something up my alley: I don’t read much ‘in-continuity’ Marvel/ DC stuff these days anyway, and I’ve never understood the need to make standalone masterpieces part of larger universes.
But that’s just me; now, if the original creators returned for a sequel, I’d still be leery, after all the these years, but maybe I’d check it out. But I never really looked for a sequel/spin-off from this story anyway, from anyone.
@@ftloc I understand your viewpoint and i sympathize with it, since i didn't want them to touch (my) Watchmen whatsoever.
But i told myself to give a chance to this new effort since Geoff Johns and Gary Frank seem to respect the original material and what it represents. If you get the chance do give it a chance.
Please do continue your videos, they are inspiring and helpful. I myself have a ''small'' request. Please discuss works like Neils Geiman;s Sandman, Alan Moore's V for Vendetta, Swamp Thing. Art Spiegelman's Mouse. etc.
Which i am sure you read most of these.
@@drhanzo91 I may give Doomsday Clock a read once it's completed and collected in a trade. But I think it is unlikely, to be perfectly honest, that I will overcome my bias! It was worse for Before Watchmen, I tell you! =)
What is the best Alan Moore comic?
Oh that's a potent question! Of course it is highly subjective, and one of these days I am going to have my Top 10 Alan Moore comics video up (it lost in the last poll) but I am pretty sure Watchmen would be right up there for most people!
I have read tintin and bone 1 but i like superhero comics more but i have never read stuff like superhero's ever
Do you mean you are more interested in superheroes but have never read any superhero comics? Bone is a wonderful series, by the way, and it gets really epic as it goes along too!
Highly recommend the podcast Under The Hood from the guy from Strip Panel Naked. Each episode covers 1 page of the novel.
Sudev Sen wow, that sounds right up my alley; thanks for the recommendation!
Hope you had a chance to watch the HBO Watchmen miniseries. It was excellent. I wonder if Dr. Manhattan was based on a combination of Shiva and Vishnu.
I did, and I liked it a fair bit, although not as much, I suspect, as many others. (This wasn't because I was comparing it to the comic or had expectations based on that, but for purely TV/movie reasons)
And yes, there's definitely a lot of the mythic pantheon destroyer/protector in Manhattan, and I wouldn't be surprised if inspiration is taken from myriad sources. Superheroes and gods are commonly linked, of course, and popular depictions (blue skin, glowing halos, etc) and their interest or disinterest in the comings and goings of 'puny humans' is another common theme.
Man it is sad, I love serious themed graphic novels. I am more of a manga reader(mostly seinen), but Watchmen was my first comic, though I don't like superheroes I am a big fan of deconstruction of heroes in any ways(One Punch Man and The Boys Tv show are my favorites) but when I read Watchmen I just didn't like it...
I have read it on my phone maybe this was the cause but otherwise I have read Berserk on my phone too but love it.
I do think two page layouts and pacing are critical in this book. From what I've read of Berserk, which I have enjoyed, it can be read a lot 'faster' and a lot of the velocity lies in jumping from panel to panel. Here, seeing them all laid out to pace and unravel the story, while laying on more motifs and symbols, is vital.
Still, not everyone has to love everything and there are some valid criticisms that will always apply to even the most hailed works. Have you read Astro City, a different kind of serious but sincere deconstruction? What do you think of that?
I’m here because the HBO series has me utterly confused and I am not a comic book person, in the least. I prefer literary novels to graphic ones. I must say though, the world of comic book fandom has been hiding very handsome participants. 🤔
Haha thank you - the trick is to keep one's face out of focus! 😋
But honestly, comics as a medium can be as literary as prose or cinema, it all depends on how the form is used. In case you are interested in standlone, non superhero reads, I have a bunch of comics recommendations that readers of prose may enjoy in this video: ua-cam.com/video/dYe4MG-OrO8/v-deo.html (and of course, the rest of my channel!) I hope you discover some interesting books!
Well I remember myself in the 90s reading comics , and if the story was interesting , in one issue lets say, because only that you would have for the month, it would be impossible to read it only twice, so I had to read this back then , it just wasn't accessible to us back then, meaning greece
Have you re-read it since, in completed and single-volume form?
@@ftloc ohhhhh noooo😁 I only read it in single volume all at once, and not too long ago to forget it enough to re read it, all I meant is if I read it the way I did back then it would sunk better, but who can stop the impulse to jump to the next issue 😆especially if you like rorsachs mission to take revenge, plus in mid 90s I wouldnt be able to understand it, I just remember the way I read monthly comics back then and you were somehow forced by time and enthusiasm to read the issues and they really sunk in
@@axilleaskazuya5370 Ah got it! Yes, it would probably have been a very different experience to re-read the same issue three or four times before getting the next installment for sure!
If it was me in India though, there would be no guarantee that the next one would ever become available, or that you would start with issue 1, so things would be a total hodgepodge!
That is probably why Disney comics, Archie comics and Tintin/ Asterix were so popular, they were all (for the most) standalone stories in each 'issue' !
@@ftloc haha yeah I know same here, I remember the Carl barks and Don Rosa comics monthly also the bit more expensive ones such as lucky Luke and asterix , but the one that blew me away for the first time I remember is reading a storm comic from don lawrence which I found in an island here on vacations that had bit more mature quote content such I was able to collect then only 3 issues
@@axilleaskazuya5370 Do you remember which Don Lawrence series it was? I've heard good things about Trigan Empire but never got my hands on any