I think if jail time was handed out to executives who placed profit before safety, all of the past and future nuclear plants in the USA would become safe in no time. Like the mention of buried pipes, track down everybody who came up with the idea of not answering truthfully and have them do prison time. Pipes rusted through...prison time. Nuclear should never me messed around with.
The technology is not to blame, the humans are to blame. These businessmen value their profits over safety and you cannot have that mindset when running a nuclear reactor. Safety must be paramount and come before everything else no matter the cost. We must respect nuclear power for what it is and do away with business thinking and profits to the benefit of safely working reactors. *Safety first, money second, always.*
More than 50% of Ontario's power is generated by nuclear, and I dont think that's mad. Seeing how we don't get earthquakes, tsunamis, tornadoes, hurricanes, ect here. We just need to have random government safety inspections. Also lock the utility execs inside the power plant.
no. it was just badly designed... in 1950... No reactor designed since 1970's could of had the same problem - since they are designed to shut down naturally if anything on it breaks. The modern design philosophy for nuclear reactors is 'default state broken' Which means that if everything in the reactor is not working perfectly the reactor will naturally shut down into a safe state. The Fukushima reactor was 'default state hot' whereby if components fail it does not shutdown.
Actually, the type of plants that were being built in the 70's and 80's were based on technology from the 50's and 60's! If you'd like to see the results of those designs, check out my UA-cam channel playlist "Nuclear Debacles, Accidents & Catastrophes." Video 12 &13 show the clean up of Three Mile Island. Kinda scary when you see how close it came to being completely out of control!
Bit late by then....do you think those round the Japanese or Russian plant who have lost their homes feel that directors in jail would cover it. May be directors and major share holders going in as bio robots would sort it.
It is designed such that unless the systems removing the energy from the reactor are working, the reactor will naturally stop. It is not computerized nor automatic as nothing needs to do anything to make it happen - but rather normal things need to stop happening. An analogy would be the effect of stopping cycling a bike. If your going uphill you will slow down and stop naturally.
I have to agree that getting new reactor technology licensed here, in the US, is going to be a difficult, up hill battle. However, I see a growing momentum around the world that is showing serious interest in thorium powered, molten salt reactor technology. China, India, even Great Britain are moving in that direction. The US seems to continue to sit on it's hands. It's all politically based rather than technologically. The WORLD needs realistically priced energy and thorium seems to be the way.
Yeah I wouldn't be impressed either given that the newest operational nuclear plants in the US go back to your time in the 70s and 80s, I think they finally started work on a new one recently but that still leaves the vast bulk of the reactors out there from the same generation of plants as the RBMK with dangerous flaws of their own.
The Russian RBMK was a disaster waiting to happen! The 2 power companies that are currently building new nuclear generation capacity employing the Westinghouse AP1000 are: Southern Company at their Vogtle plant in Georgia and SCE&G at their VC Summer plant in South Carolina. Check out my YT page to see videos! Nonetheless, I'd still like to see the US get on the band wagon regarding Molten Salt Reactors. The technology may sound exotic, but they appear to be operationally, much safer!!!
Nuclear power has a rather sound history of good operation. However, when things go wrong, they go wrong rather extremely! And, it always seems in hindsight, that somebody tried to provide some warnings as to the inevitable problems. Consider the engineer that said the shuttle Challenger shouldn't have launched on the day that they did. These same types of warnings were brought up prior to most nuclear disasters as well. As to current nuclear technology, I believe the PWR is better than the BWR.
This one is illiterate too. "privatized". Nuclear plants should ALWAYS be privatized. If I had a billion dollars of my own money wrapped up in a power plant, you can bet your sweet bippy that protecting that investment, IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE, would be my highest priority. You can't get rich or stay rich by killing your customers, you simple minded twits!
In the US our nuclear power plants are so heavily regulating by the US government that they pretty much aren't privatized. Guessing from your name and your Avatar, you are from Russia. Russian, or Soviet nuclear facilities we're ALL ran by the government, and have the worst record for nuclear accidents and safety in the world! Government can't manage ANYTHING properly!
The Westinghouse AP1000 is a continuation of their Pressurized Water Reactor Technology (PWR) and the engineering appears sound. Nonetheless, having worked at a nuclear power construction project in the late '70's and early '80's, I am not entirely impressed with engineering and regulatory practices as I'd mentioned in my initial post. The handwriting is on the wall however, the world needs to find a source of inexpensive, safe and reliable energy!!!
What I think They should do is shut all the power plants down and rebuild them with modern equipment a lot of these are older than Chernobyl what if this happens again all the plants near I will I do the same thing as the last one just keep going down the line until the all destroyed for America's fallout
The one in kyushu I believe is in the mountains. I think Tohoku region in Japan though is a bit tougher to get something like that into high ground and far enough away from towns, villages, and cities. East Japan is rough country so more than likely that was the only place they could construct it.
It appears to me that whenever a concern is brought up, without even thinking, those who operate the plant, they always just say "there is no danger, it is safe"........What bull&hit. Love the story that "we" don't have any underground pipes........sorry, we have a network of buried pipes!!!
While I certainly wouldn't want to let the regulators and operators their situation is made worse by a public that consider new nuclear plants unacceptable forcing the industry to either abandon nuclear entirely or extend the licenses. What needs to happen is the same thing as what's needed to happen for decades. New nuclear plants that would benefit from the decades of learned lessons and improvements in technology and our better understanding of risks to nuclear plants.
The comment to the post of this video is very misleading! There are not more that 100 reactors similar to the Japan's Fukushima Daici plant. The reactors in the Japan facility are Boiling Water Reactors. The US has only 35 BWR and the remainder (69) are Pressurized Water Reactors. Of course, there are inherent dangers with all nuclear reactors. Japan's crisis is due to some extraordinary circumstances and the US does seem to be responding to possible eventualities such as those in Japan.
America does not sign any international treaties of agreements meaning that we in the rest of the world do not care if they nuke themselves . It's your capitalism not ours. If you do not learn from Chernobyl or Fukushima we can not help you
Vested interests are the reason we don't have safe and cheap energy. Commercial nuclear energy is not clean and safe and must have governmental support to exist.
Boeing just like the nuclear industry is self regulating and chooses wether or not a new plane is qualified for commercial service. How long before Diablo, Sequoyah or Indian Point take uncommanded nose dives?
If people knew the seriousness of FUKUSHIMA the 3 nuclear meltdowns on going killing the Pacific nuclear people would be tar and featherd the 9 year cover-up still going strong.
There is but it would likely require an overhead ratio similar to that of the airline industry. The issue is more so the same one that is plaguing the entire United States; all necessary commodities/industries have been fully privatised, eventually leading to profit above all.
they keep on talking about the people in the surrounding of the plan... they don't seem to know that the problem is global now and there is not much else to do then die
Of course too, there are weaknesses and failures within the industry and regulatory bodies as well. Take some time and investigate an incident that occurred at the Davis-Besse Nuclear plant in Ohio in 2002! I am absolutely stunned that this didn't make national news! I am however, becoming more of a convert to the liquid salt reactor technology and research that was abandoned in the late 60's and early 70's. (aka LFTR) We need alternate sources of energy and this could be a possible solution.
It was a 60 year old design that needed water constantly pumped through the reactor to cool it. The design had been known to be flawed for decades, since it could not keep the core cool enough in a passive state (aka if the pumps broke).
I agree with most of the comments here. Safety is paramount. I am pro nuke. I believe that the process can be done safely and can be less expensive and much greener than coal fired plants. But the operators of these plants have to put safety over profit. Most of all they have to be honest with the public and not lie and cover up problems and poor operation procedures. When they try to hide probs and lie even by ommision they throw their reputation out the window. We all live on this earth together and putting the enviornment and the public at risk or worse because of the all mighty dollar is not acceptable. How much is enough for these people. A nuclear powered power plant is not the same as nuclear bomb but can do far worse damage for a much longer time if the wrong accident happens. If we continue on the paths we all are headed down money will not save anyone. Focus on a lot of these plants is the production of Pu 239 for the purpose of making nuclear bombs and that needs to halt. Thorium can fuel these reactors much more safely that U 235 but because of the difficulties in using it to breed fuel for bombs in my opinion is limiting research into it in favor of Uranium. God Bless America and our troops.
This is a wonderful documentary and I could have watched it for hours. Shame about the spelling mistake - “probably” instead of “probable”.... when they were quoting. I proof read, so it leapt out at me! Sorry! Lol An excellent and compelling production. Thanks
We don't have to wait. It has already happened several times... three miles island... Czernobyl... Fukushima... statistically there is a high probability it will happen again somewhere.😕
No regulations at all would not help much though so, what is the solution really? [I guess having more people with minimal integrity but they are like bold Eagle in the US: on the way of being instinct].
I think if jail time was handed out to executives who placed profit before safety, all of the past and future nuclear plants in the USA would become safe in no time. Like the mention of buried pipes, track down everybody who came up with the idea of not answering truthfully and have them do prison time. Pipes rusted through...prison time. Nuclear should never me messed around with.
The technology is not to blame, the humans are to blame. These businessmen value their profits over safety and you cannot have that mindset when running a nuclear reactor. Safety must be paramount and come before everything else no matter the cost. We must respect nuclear power for what it is and do away with business thinking and profits to the benefit of safely working reactors. *Safety first, money second, always.*
Nuclear plant owners and operators as well as inspectors should be required to live within a couple of miles of the nuclear plants.
Your attitude should live next to your reasoning
hoosierhiver I agree make them live on campus by the plant. You reasoning is brilliant and I like your attitude. Bring on the sarcasm!
Oh so when you asked if we had any underground pipes, you meant ones that are under the ground? Our mistake.
Well, it just depends on what your definition of 'is', is.
More than 50% of Ontario's power is generated by nuclear, and I dont think that's mad. Seeing how we don't get earthquakes, tsunamis, tornadoes, hurricanes, ect here. We just need to have random government safety inspections. Also lock the utility execs inside the power plant.
@@ghost500e ru roh someones aretard
The incompetence is stunning.
no. it was just badly designed... in 1950... No reactor designed since 1970's could of had the same problem - since they are designed to shut down naturally if anything on it breaks.
The modern design philosophy for nuclear reactors is 'default state broken' Which means that if everything in the reactor is not working perfectly the reactor will naturally shut down into a safe state. The Fukushima reactor was 'default state hot' whereby if components fail it does not shutdown.
The more I think about it, the more I think we are doomed.
Actually, the type of plants that were being built in the 70's and 80's were based on technology from the 50's and 60's! If you'd like to see the results of those designs, check out my UA-cam channel playlist "Nuclear Debacles, Accidents & Catastrophes." Video 12 &13 show the clean up of Three Mile Island. Kinda scary when you see how close it came to being completely out of control!
Simple.. If there is an accident then the director goes directly to jail.
Bit late by then....do you think those round the Japanese or Russian plant who have lost their homes feel that directors in jail would cover it. May be directors and major share holders going in as bio robots would sort it.
It is designed such that unless the systems removing the energy from the reactor are working, the reactor will naturally stop. It is not computerized nor automatic as nothing needs to do anything to make it happen - but rather normal things need to stop happening.
An analogy would be the effect of stopping cycling a bike. If your going uphill you will slow down and stop naturally.
I have to agree that getting new reactor technology licensed here, in the US, is going to be a difficult, up hill battle. However, I see a growing momentum around the world that is showing serious interest in thorium powered, molten salt reactor technology. China, India, even Great Britain are moving in that direction. The US seems to continue to sit on it's hands. It's all politically based rather than technologically. The WORLD needs realistically priced energy and thorium seems to be the way.
If you used a first and second generation nuclear reactor ,then you are to blamed.
Yeah I wouldn't be impressed either given that the newest operational nuclear plants in the US go back to your time in the 70s and 80s, I think they finally started work on a new one recently but that still leaves the vast bulk of the reactors out there from the same generation of plants as the RBMK with dangerous flaws of their own.
Why do they locate these WMD in picturesque settings?
The Russian RBMK was a disaster waiting to happen! The 2 power companies that are currently building new nuclear generation capacity employing the Westinghouse AP1000 are: Southern Company at their Vogtle plant in Georgia and SCE&G at their VC Summer plant in South Carolina. Check out my YT page to see videos! Nonetheless, I'd still like to see the US get on the band wagon regarding Molten Salt Reactors. The technology may sound exotic, but they appear to be operationally, much safer!!!
18:57 Did he mean to say people who hit bongs or play bongos? How do I play bong?
Thank you for re-posting the video! (whatever made you change your mind) Excellent reporting, AlJazeera!! Who needs CNN? Ugh
They are classically liberal leaning as well from what I've seen and heard
Nuclear power has a rather sound history of good operation. However, when things go wrong, they go wrong rather extremely! And, it always seems in hindsight, that somebody tried to provide some warnings as to the inevitable problems. Consider the engineer that said the shuttle Challenger shouldn't have launched on the day that they did. These same types of warnings were brought up prior to most nuclear disasters as well. As to current nuclear technology, I believe the PWR is better than the BWR.
K4Fusion agreed....BWR everything in the plant gets irradiated pretty much..... Westinghouse is the way to go
seismic info is crucial---there are faults we don't even know about---sunspot activity is really high now and related to earthquake activity
Good reporting, but could you possibly have crammed more ads into this one video?!
They will never tell the truth.
Nuclear plants should never be privatised.
This one is illiterate too. "privatized". Nuclear plants should ALWAYS be privatized. If I had a billion dollars of my own money wrapped up in a power plant, you can bet your sweet bippy that protecting that investment, IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE, would be my highest priority. You can't get rich or stay rich by killing your customers, you simple minded twits!
In the US our nuclear power plants are so heavily regulating by the US government that they pretty much aren't privatized. Guessing from your name and your Avatar, you are from Russia. Russian, or Soviet nuclear facilities we're ALL ran by the government, and have the worst record for nuclear accidents and safety in the world! Government can't manage ANYTHING properly!
should never be built.
As you can see from the video, that's not the case in reality. If you were right, the video wouldn't exist.
The Westinghouse AP1000 is a continuation of their Pressurized Water Reactor Technology (PWR) and the engineering appears sound. Nonetheless, having worked at a nuclear power construction project in the late '70's and early '80's, I am not entirely impressed with engineering and regulatory practices as I'd mentioned in my initial post. The handwriting is on the wall however, the world needs to find a source of inexpensive, safe and reliable energy!!!
Wish I knew about these jobs in my younger working life. I could really excel in incompetence for these agencies
What I think They should do is shut all the power plants down and rebuild them with modern equipment a lot of these are older than Chernobyl what if this happens again all the plants near I will I do the same thing as the last one just keep going down the line until the all destroyed for America's fallout
ethan wells none of them are older than the Chernobyl RMBK design
Months to get it under control, how about 40 years!
The one in kyushu I believe is in the mountains. I think Tohoku region in Japan though is a bit tougher to get something like that into high ground and far enough away from towns, villages, and cities. East Japan is rough country so more than likely that was the only place they could construct it.
It appears to me that whenever a concern is brought up, without even thinking, those who operate the plant, they always just say "there is no danger, it is safe"........What bull&hit. Love the story that "we" don't have any underground pipes........sorry, we have a network of buried pipes!!!
While I certainly wouldn't want to let the regulators and operators their situation is made worse by a public that consider new nuclear plants unacceptable forcing the industry to either abandon nuclear entirely or extend the licenses. What needs to happen is the same thing as what's needed to happen for decades. New nuclear plants that would benefit from the decades of learned lessons and improvements in technology and our better understanding of risks to nuclear plants.
The comment to the post of this video is very misleading! There are not more that 100 reactors similar to the Japan's Fukushima Daici plant. The reactors in the Japan facility are Boiling Water Reactors. The US has only 35 BWR and the remainder (69) are Pressurized Water Reactors. Of course, there are inherent dangers with all nuclear reactors. Japan's crisis is due to some extraordinary circumstances and the US does seem to be responding to possible eventualities such as those in Japan.
America does not sign any international treaties of agreements meaning that we in the rest of the world do not care if they nuke themselves . It's your capitalism not ours. If you do not learn from Chernobyl or Fukushima we can not help you
Okay, I feel like 2.4 billion gallons of water per day for only two reactors is a bit exaggerated...
I agree. maybe 2.4 million, but not 2.4 billion.
You obviously have no idea of the size of a nuclear reactor
I'm familiar. No way they would use that much water.
Vested interests are the reason we don't have safe and cheap energy. Commercial nuclear energy is not clean and safe and must have governmental support to exist.
Boeing just like the nuclear industry is self regulating and chooses wether or not a new plane is qualified for commercial service. How long before Diablo, Sequoyah or Indian Point take uncommanded nose dives?
Better shut them DOWN. Bunch of money grabbers, This is a sick joke.
If people knew the seriousness of FUKUSHIMA the 3 nuclear meltdowns on going killing the Pacific nuclear people would be tar and featherd the 9 year cover-up still going strong.
Haha Qatar trying to sell his oil and gas by showing nuclear energy is not safe
There is but it would likely require an overhead ratio similar to that of the airline industry. The issue is more so the same one that is plaguing the entire United States; all necessary commodities/industries have been fully privatised, eventually leading to profit above all.
Jazko...very robust.....as long as it looks a thing that don't count? Did they submit there information in the right type face?
they keep on talking about the people in the surrounding of the plan... they don't seem to know that the problem is global now and there is not much else to do then die
Saddam Hussein 9/11, Saddam Hussein 9/11, say it with me.
Amazing documentary
if it is buried it's underground
Of course too, there are weaknesses and failures within the industry and regulatory bodies as well. Take some time and investigate an incident that occurred at the Davis-Besse Nuclear plant in Ohio in 2002! I am absolutely stunned that this didn't make national news! I am however, becoming more of a convert to the liquid salt reactor technology and research that was abandoned in the late 60's and early 70's. (aka LFTR) We need alternate sources of energy and this could be a possible solution.
It was a 60 year old design that needed water constantly pumped through the reactor to cool it. The design had been known to be flawed for decades, since it could not keep the core cool enough in a passive state (aka if the pumps broke).
Brilliant film.
I agree with most of the comments here. Safety is paramount. I am pro nuke. I believe that the process can be done safely and can be less expensive and much greener than coal fired plants. But the operators of these plants have to put safety over profit. Most of all they have to be honest with the public and not lie and cover up problems and poor operation procedures. When they try to hide probs and lie even by ommision they throw their reputation out the window. We all live on this earth together and putting the enviornment and the public at risk or worse because of the all mighty dollar is not acceptable. How much is enough for these people. A nuclear powered power plant is not the same as nuclear bomb but can do far worse damage for a much longer time if the wrong accident happens. If we continue on the paths we all are headed down money will not save anyone.
Focus on a lot of these plants is the production of Pu 239 for the purpose of making nuclear bombs and that needs to halt. Thorium can fuel these reactors much more safely that U 235 but because of the difficulties in using it to breed fuel for bombs in my opinion is limiting research into it in favor of Uranium. God Bless America and our troops.
Samuel Lacks fukushima. guess pro nuke was a bad idea
I feel like this is a hit piece. Misguided at best but I see a lot of misinformation here
This is a wonderful documentary and I could have watched it for hours. Shame about the spelling mistake - “probably” instead of “probable”.... when they were quoting. I proof read, so it leapt out at me! Sorry! Lol
An excellent and compelling production. Thanks
I don't like nuclear energy. I'm afraid something will go wrong one day.
We don't have to wait. It has already happened several times... three miles island... Czernobyl... Fukushima... statistically there is a high probability it will happen again somewhere.😕
Walmart is tied in with the government now its stock just keeps climbing high
No regulations at all would not help much though so, what is the solution really? [I guess having more people with minimal integrity but they are like bold Eagle in the US: on the way of being instinct].
So speculative
captured govt regulators.... do you faucci much doctor doom?
Oh yes, please god. next exploding nuke plant : in the USA.
This is a fantastic documentary. 👏👏
The near is already here people
The near is already here
must be a feminism documentary... its poorly done and don't really reflect the reality :)
Illiterate too. "Aging".
Pelerin: Please explain your position.
joseph-mario pelerin what are you a Russian bot? Feminism ?? It's about nuclear power plants.. I think you left your comment on the wrong vid! BOT
What on earth has that to do with feminism? I don't want to know, you should go think about what you just said. Not ok.
I doubt he literally means feminism. He is comparing it to feminists because they are also often uninformed and unrealistic