After reading more into the state of Boeing, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I'll be very surprised if they're still in business ten years from now. Jim McNerney's incompetence utterly destroyed the company.
Not one 787 has even crashed in over a decade of use. Zero fatalities. Millions of flights. The 787 is One if the safest planes ever to fly. Broken dreams??? Ok lol
@@Jeff-sp7bg well 1 bird doesn't make spring. If quality is neglected for 737s , what is the guarantee that this doesn't happened for other types. Besides the whistle-blowers said it is Boeing issue, not a particular type of plane issue. I'd rather not gamble with mine or my family life. So yeah.. I will not board death coffins. You go ahead and be my guest.
@gergister nothing in life is guaranteed. If you want guaranteed safety then live in a plastic bubble with reinforced concrete. Your lifetime chance of dying in a vehicle accident is 1 in 200 on an Airliner it's 1 in 6 million. Heck with the 737 max debacle there have been zero fatalities in over 60 million total flights worldwide and over 5 years so if that's the worst plane out there then that just shows how safe flying is. I prefer to go out there and live life at the end of the day life is dangerous Noone survives in the end 100% of everybody dies....
Here we are 10 years later, two 737 MAX 8 aircraft have crashed a 737 MAX 9 has just lost a plug door mid air and manufacturing issues still continue to plague new aircraft deliveries.
I am a retired aerospace worker at a MRO company in CANADA. I found this video very enlightening. When the FAA handed over certification responsibility over to BOEING, the bells went off in my head. It was not long before The Department of Transport here in CANADA followed. I for the life of me could not believe such power to the fox to guard the hen house. Makes no sense morally or professionally. Good story
@@oliviernyssen8041the concerning aspect is that going back 10 years...the 787 dreamliner, the 737max, the 777x family...all great examples of what not to do...
Maybe for boeing by hindsight. If you were right, we would not talk about this now. We can agree that this was well ahead of it's time. I saw this back then, it had millions of views in 2015 too. Whish the right people listen next time.
This bothers me. Knowing who the merge with & they terrible planes they made, no wonder their planes aren’t good. I see why people fly on Airbus now. Which after watching this, I think I’m flying air bus from now on.
I also want to thank Al Jazeera. The worker’s comments in South Carolina are utterly shocking ! They have no ability, no pride. Very opposite attitude from people in Seattle.
It's a great investigation. But don't be naive, they only do it because it shows how bad and evil a US company managed by greedy evil people is. Always consider multiple sources from different sides to make up your oppinion and gain knowledge. The media these days isn't about information spreading anymore, it's almost exclusively used for political reasons and propaganda. Luckily there are more and more small independent journalists, but they can also be motivated by their ideology.
After all that has happened, all I can feel is sadness, bitterness, and rage. Boeing was once a company of class and integrity. But when they merged with McDonnell Douglas, it became all about "cost saving" and "the bottom line." But once 'the bottom line' was safety, then it suddenly became corporate profit at any cost. And what a cost they will pay...
@@tiffsaver The funny thing is, McDD built excellent planes, like the DC-9 (later MD-80 series), the C-17 Globemaster III (originally Douglas), The F-4 Phantom II (McDonnell), the F-15 Eagle (McDonnell). Not exactly a rubbish history.
@@tenkloosterherman If you want to dig into history, Boeing had an excellent quality and safety record, too. It was when they MERGED that things suddenly went downhill... fast.
That's not confined to Boeing. I worked with automotive engineers that wouldn't drive their cars on a trip over 100 miles. Engineers these days are chickenshit because they never built anything in their lives- they just sit at their desks and run applications. They actually have NO practical experience, and their cynicism is a lame attempt to appear wise. Trust me: they're only two doors down from imposters.
The did a piece on Malaysia on the Covid lockdowns and foreign workers here recently. It could be classified as a total fabricated lie. Their journalist got booted out of the country. 0 credibility.
@@brassicaolaraceaolaracea1115 I think whataboutism can sometimes be a good evidence. It is like saying Officer, I am not the only one speeding or the other cars are speeding, why did you pull only me? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
@@jimbosammy4255 I think whataboutism can sometimes be a good evidence. It is like saying Officer, I am not the only one speeding or the other cars are speeding, why did you pull only me? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
My heart simply crumbled for John Woods at how he was essentially punished for trying to do the right thing. The sadness was palpable as he described the struggle to survive after unjustly being terminated. Corporate thugs is an understatement. Psychopathic carcinogen is more like it.
Sadness in his eyes tells us all. While the CEO makes $25 million a year, his pension is $250,000. I wish somebody can arrange for these two to meet. How this ceo sleep at night !
All corporations and all entities that work underneath the "skyscraper people" are the cancer cells. The skyscraper cities and corporations are the tumors.
I have bipolar disorder type 2, and spend 38 and a half years as a technical documentation and project leader specialist in high-tech. The man who admitted his disorders and got crushed is my hero. Always do the right thing.
Watching this, knowing this was recorded long before the 737 Max, give me chills. You can really say, we all have seen this coming, this is murder by forging safety standards.
You can stop pretending Airbus didn't have problems....there were serious issues with Airbus too, even crashes, but I don't see you reporting it! This is just another hit job attempt by Aljazeera and Europeans. Disgruntled employees selectively picked to support your predetermined goals, which is to falsely report to create a hitjob!
Why don't you investigate or inform yourself about all the serious issues Airbus had....this is just another hit job by Aljazeera. Boeing isn't allowed to solve their issues but Airbus is.....double standard. What about the company who built the batteries, safety and workmanship issues, and compromised.
Washington has more drugies than anywhere else....ever been there, I have! That's probably one of the reasons the company moved. Every ISO certified company has employees who write instructions about production processes. Sooner or later any manufactured product will fail. Blame Obama and Hillary.....clueless stooges.
I worked for Boeing in Wichita in the 70's and was called on the carpet for making less parts than the 35 year veteran on 1st shift. They showed me his part bin and mine. I asked what all the white tags were on almost all his parts, but mine had none, and he, the plant manager, told me to go back to work and I never heard another word about it. Those white tags were failed inspection tags. Those parts were estimated to be worth $50k. I was proud to work there then because quality was their priority. Their planes were considered the safest in the air back then. Not so much now.
Boeing engineer speak - we have placed the batteries in a fire containment vessel vented to atmosphere, in plain English - we have installed a fireplace for the batteries and built a chimney!
I was a Boeing Quality Assurance inspector and I could see this profit before quality attitude, initially they had separate managers one for production and one for quality. Then around 2000 they decided to remove the quality manager and put the whole responsibility on the production manager and told him to wear different hats for different decision's. Problem is when your job is on the line when something is late, what hat will he put on?
I remember someone from United saying "The Boeing aircraft made after 2000 had more technical difficulties than those made before 2000 or any Airbus aircraft"
That was a new "business model" that started in the mid 90's called "getting rid of the middle man" by having each employee work the load of two after performing massive layoffs. They kept routine layoffs the whole time I was living in Everett-where their building is. My mom worked for the city in Surface Water Management and they kept fining Boeing for illegal dumping. They destroyed an entire salmon spawning stream, and each stream is it's own species, so Boeing made an entire run of salmon go EXTINCT.
My father worked for Canadian General Electric in Manufacturing and Engineering. I recall him coming home in the 60s and lamenting the quality control was going out the door because the "accountants were running the show". This BS has been going on for years.
@@clemalford9768 Fortunately I ceased active pilot training and upon discussing this with FBO I am told I can hire Commercial as PIC then just do pleasure flying ◘ airline remains safest over 100 mile base
As a retired quality control guy, I think that having so many different contractors making parts for the 787 is a huge part of the problem. From a quality standpoint it is much harder to moitor quality when the jobs are farmed out all over the place. Boeing made a big error in allowing this multi-worldwide site manufacturing of airplane parts plan. But Boeing itself has clearly compromised its quality process, thus endangering lives in the process.
I dated a fellow who worked for TWO companies making Boeing parts, so you are correct. The parts are made all over. They TRIED setting up shop in Mexico and the fuselage came back WIRED WRONG. They learned their lesson.
I spent 3 years in that SC plant in the very beginning of the program. It was a Boeing partner, Global Aeronautica, then and I took my 30+ years of experience and left in 2010 when it became too much to try and overcome the incompetence that surrounded everything in that building. There are hundreds of "John Woods" in that place just too scared to speak up because it's David v Goliath all day everyday.
So scary. I hope we won’t be finding big issues in the next few years. My grandpa worked for Boeing for 30+ years. He would be rolling in his grave if he knew what Boeing had become.
Planes made by Boeing are like planes "Made in China." China, Boeing and McDonnell Douglas, they are getting closer every day. Accountants, business-people and other bean counters are made in China.
I'm rewatching this after quite a while. I laughed out loud when they visited the Italian company building the body out of composite to save money. I know it's not exactly the same but all I could think of was Oceangate and the Titan. Boeing's lack of QC and cheapness is like an echo.
Try running a business (referencing the trades) competing against illegal labor. You will become disheartened quickly and then think of how to screw the government that clearly does not value honest business owners.
It's not. M.D. fools came in, took over and in many circles it's believed that they- childishly- did not want Boeing to EVER again surpass the original M.Douglass. It worked!😮🤯
I’m not flying the 777x for 4 years. The 737max for 2. These planes are not safe. It takes airbus 3 years to develop a a321neo with an extra fuel tank. It somehow take boeing 4 years to build an all new plane. Lockheed Martin was the only good plane manufacturer in US history, but they sadly no longer make passenger planes. I am happy delta chose airbus.
Frontline also has a documentary on Boeing. It's excellent. The question that remains for me is what are the airlines doing with the 737s they already have? I'm letting my local airline know that I never want to fly on a Boeing plane again.
Trump is pulling his hair out with the corruption in the White House. He should working a week or two at Boeing... I can't wait 4 a competitor to come along and wipe Boeing off the maps... They used to be a good company until the Indians and Chinese got on board with em and showed em how to rip off the entire rest of the world....
@@thekingsilverado9004 lol. You guys always put the blame on someone else. First the innocent pilots who don't know anything about the MCAS and now you blamed the Indians and Chinese? You guys are just dumb.
That top manager you interviewed at Boeing when you showed him proof that quality control was over ruled by top management, he looked like a deer in headlights.
Carol Morris could it be all rigged up?? Due to a?? Following the other’s... airbus? Sold out to the corporate office pays to Play... I got to meet Boeing first test pilot H.C. Kit Carson... globalization efforts makes problems with aviation? Who made the battery packs? For the Dreamliner? Grounded from? Now 737 max issues??? Problem with?? Politicians or maybe elsewhere? Yes indeed outside interference from a ??? Competitors insight$? Pays to Play in Career Politics ask those senators in Washington $tate. GlowBall efforts to do in Boeing’s status?? My brother from the 82nd airborne.. I was next door at US Pope AFB.... Honorable and Truth always No taqqyia
The 30-year veteran of Boeing is John Barnett. He was still in the midst of testifying and his civil suit against Boeing was nearing a settlement and then the next day we hear he dies? Very much sounds like foul play. His brother said he suffered from PTSD and was working in a hostile environment and thinks that caused his suicide. Then his colleague by the name of Jennifer said that he himself said if anyone says my death was by suicide is lying. Who do you believe?
@@douglanders5558 real, he’s actually doing his job as an engineer, in my College major I’m forced to take a class on engineering ethics before graduation
As an electrical engineer I am appalled at the layout of that battery pack. All those wires connecting the individual cells can not be the best layout, but it certainly look the cheapest. Pretty dam near a "rats' nest" wiring job. A generous source of possibilities for disaster. As a marine electrician in San Diego, I remember having boats built in China totally stripped of their wire harnesses and refitted for safety purposes, in order to qualify for the insurance policy. We've come a long way baby!
How can an airliner company fail to build a simple safe bus box? LiFePo isn't much worse on energy density, China was right to ban lithium ion metal in big batteries.
Union electrician for 33 years and Seen better wiring in a wall outlet Then that battery box..corporate greed , but worked on dream liner hangers.. Boeing is great company
Al Jazeera does hard work finding problems inside Boeing and its safety. Result: Some clown cuts interview and Boeing denies everything. Way to go Boeing. Real professional. You truly care for our safety.
Manufactured by the same company, roots of the problems must be the same. If 787's got issues, the new 737 can't be the exception, the ethics of the 21st century large corporates has been compromised and corrupt. This is when disasters strike. Everywhere, even car industry, like the Volkswagen diesel scandal.
Yep MD management came in and slashed the research and development budget which was the major reason why Boeing was such a great company in the first place up until that point. It took a few years but those billions in R&D cuts caught up to them as the documentary shows. They also started outsourcing parts without a good QA supply line and the batteries are a good example of that.
TLO wow youre a really rude person, to a small degree you do get to choose which aircraft type youre on, websites literally tell you when purchasing a ticket what aircraft you can expect to be on.. depending on which aircrafts fly the route you can always choose to fly another type of aircraft on a different date. its not much but there is a small amount of preference available.
@@TLO129 "I could care less" doesn't mean what you think it means. You're spot on about the MCAS issue... when I first saw it I thought good lord, just cut off the stab trim switches. I learned that way back in 1977 in KC-135 training, and practiced it in E-3s after that.
As a journalist abroad, I interviewed an electrician who spotted something extremely dangerous within a sunflower oil manufacturing plant where he worked: The plant could blow up with all houses around for half a mile or so. A major public safety concern. I published it. Next thing a lawyer from the plant came to see me asking me who the whistleblower was: I refused to tell. But they figured out that only an electrician could know and fired him. We live in a crazy world.
For those doubting this video: this is really happening in every company. Greedy people are taking over. All they care about and understand are numbers. They are hiring people that don't understand what they are doing and closing their eyes on huge quality issues. I've seen first hand in some of the biggest companies that are supposedly famous for quality, like swiss watches.
Very true! and none of them pay taxes. Earning billions of dollars and paying no or very little federal taxes is crazy. That tells me that our government officials are corrupt. This unfortunately wont stop until it all falls, then you will see all of these politicians heading to other countries.
Yep, in hindsight *all* the warning signs are there in a dodgy as f--- corporate culture. I am seriously avoiding Boeing aircraft these days. Glad I live in Europe, where we have lots of airlines using Airbus fleets.
And now I return to this on March 13th, 2019 after the fatal accidents of two, revolunary best selling aircraft from Boeing. What else is there to say really. Aljazeera, I think it's time for a part two, the 737 Minimum Requirements.
Yes...part TWO is in order. Please include WHO/WHAT was on those 2 downed 737 MAX 8 planes, who profited (had puts) on Boeing stock, and investigate whether the MCAS/automated plane could possibly be flown("hacked") REMOTELY. Oh yes, verify whether or not CHINA is about to take over this market with their new planes. Thanks for a great documentary.
The current CEO is an accountant, enough said. American Airline is temporarily cancelling flights from Philidelphia to Madrid due to Boeing's inability to supply 787's in a timely manner, which is currently experiencing fuselage issues.
I'm afraid that Comac will crush Boeing in the long term. Give the Chinese another 10 years. Not so hard to compete against such a f..k-up of a company, anyway.
@@rene78 honestly its like watching dc try and catch up with marvel. people dont seem to understand that you need to put in quality in order to make quality.
500 years later and people still hold on to the spinning globe earth when in reality we humans have always lived on a Stationary Flat Plane. Its 2019, awaken to the Truth, The Earth Is A Flat Circular Plane.
Which one? There have been a few over the past 50 or so years. Kleber Tires out of Europe comes to mind. With complete tread separation being a rather critical issue. And then Goodyear having a few too. Over the years that is. I was 'line maintenance' in YYZ for over 30 + years. Changed a few tires in my life. Every day almost.
The great sadness is seeing a company like BOEING, recognised as the builder of legendary aircraft, decline to such a level. Corporate criminals are everywhere including in Politics and playing with people's lives to satisfy Corporate greed.
Great work, Al Jazeera. I've flown on Dreamliners a couple of times, but after seeing this I'll be flying something non-Boeing whenever possible. Good on you John Woods for having the courage to blow the whistle on this nonsense.
@@nickolliver3021 I'd certainly fly on Boeing aircraft as a general class, but I would not say that the company has done anything to make me feel better about its sad state of priorities. I did fly on a 787-9 to Europe recently and it was a super nice ride. But ignorance is bliss I suppose. Now has there been any airframe failure related fatalities in the 787 line. None that I know of. So maybe we're on borrowed time? Hard to say.
@@ernietech-101The company has done something to make people feel better about its better state of priorities. They're definitely not In a sad state now. What ignorance is bliss? The 787 hasn't had any failure related fatalities in the production line. Just bad quality work that has now been addressed. I think they're on track to recovery and racking up more orders which is excellent to see
44:13 Paul Lewis, Boeing's communications director barges in on the interview, starts interrogating the reporter to give up his sources. He is eager to punish them, like all the other conscientious engineers fired before, who dared to report quality issues. This is followed by the communications *director* freely giving orders to the vice president and general manager of the 787 program (Larry Loftis at that time). This shows the priorities of Boeing.
Yep, proper real example of the tail wagging the dog. These guys are SOO arrogant though, they dont even realize people can see them and know what they are. I got a flight to Singapore next week, checked it out, 777, designed the old, engineering first way - now sure how I'd felt if were something else though!
"You can't ask us a question like that we haven't had a chance to craft an answer". Sound like the answer going to be crafted from fake wood or some other crud they used to make the plane.
They have been caught hiring people with almost no manufacturing experience in their factories! And some employees openly admitted this! Their reputation is permanently tarnished. I refuse to fly on their Max models or Dreamliners. Can't trust them to care about safety. Remember their crazy fanboys: "It ain't Boeing so I ain't going!" Okay, what if the only airline that will fly them from City A to City B has Airbus A300s and NOBODY else in the airport has an available flight to City B? Trust me, the morons will take the flight rather than sleep at the airport until a Boeing plane shows up. They're so blind it's hilarious.
This reflects on the whole American aviation industry, who will hold this stupidity as an example of crony capitalism and why their needs to be ruthless regulation, for public safety.
I just watched the Australian 60mins program on the 737 max and this showed up in the watch next feed. This is very disturbing, but I should not be in-the least bit surprised! I have worked in the oil and gas industry for 15 years doing inspection work. They all claim safety is first until it stands in the way of the profit margin.
Watched the lionair crash in the sea of Indonesia, the grivences in the face of family members of the victims. We can't understand why the human life is of no value to the corporate world.
Nick L. Lol.. safety! It’s only matters when the boss is around but they know full well that the job would not get done if there’s no short cuts and safety cuts, we see it all the time in every industry, but most of the time we on the ground get away with it , not so when your in a Boeing 737 max , or maybe next a Dream liner , it’s discussing what Boeing has / and is doing . Thank God for Airbus, we’ve seen how safe they are just look at the Qantas A380 . Drama .. if that was a Boeing golly knows what would of happen, the 737 max has problems staying in the air with no blown engines. Hail the 747 those days are gone for Boeing I think 💭 sad
@@hbjaffri The American two-party political system, unfortunately, ensures all things that matter in human society defer to the growth & hoarding of corporate profits, executive compensation, and political longevity for public officials who act as industry sentries. US-style capitalism demands no deviation from this dystopian process.
It's not easy to do the right thing when the corporate establishment is based on greed. Mr. Woods, my heart goes out to you. You are a hero. We need more men like you in the world. Hold your head high.
our society is based on greed - our reason for being is based in greed. we wake up everyday to do what? make more money. remember Boeing and companies like them work at the behest of shareholders.
Because most people don't want the truth. They believe it won't happen to them, and the topic is depressing. I was told that by a few people I brought this up to. What a wonderful world.
I used to fly a lot as a kid in the 80's and early 90's. After seeing this I wouldn't fly on any Boeing 737 or 787 made. This is something that more people need to see. Thanks.
@ christdragon, Hey genius : Amazing that a company that has produced the best aircraft in the world can suddenly be demonized with a single complete hit piece, courtesy of : Union's at odds with Boeing over their other plant, AIRBUS { who knows?}, and Al Jazeera..............................
This indictment of Boeing quality control expands into anything America is building. Cars, appliances, homes, etc. I used to purchase GMC/Chevy Suv's for about 20 years. My last model a Yukon GMC, had so many problems, not only engine, but the way the doors fit, AC, heat, the hood, the seats that I no longer purchase American made vehicles. I have purchased only Toyota vehicles and have had absolutely no issues with them.
This is an issue with U.S. corporate culture. Investor return takes precident above all. Every new CEO must cut more costs than their predecessor. It will end in tears.
"Made in America" has lost its meaning.I used to work for electromotive diesel, which was part of G.M. at the time. We were building multi-million dollar engines for trains and ships, etc. The things I saw due to workers being rushed to meet schedules were ridiculous. The quality was garbage, I can imagine what happens at the car plants,if this is high $$ stuff and tons of issues would slip by. From a safety perspective, these engines would go in massive ships. Do you know what happens to a ship without propulsion? IT CAN GET EVERONE ON BOARD KILLED.
So disappointed with Boeing. The company, at least originally, is the best in the world, in my opinion but these new crooks and thieves are running it like a huge money spinning machine at whatever cost. Such a shame.
This is all because they refused to design a new 737. They simply put huge new engines on the same old design which makes the nose tilt up. That’s why they need this automatic MCAS system. What can pilots do when there’s an out of control evil computer with bad info on board trying to crash the plane?
Sithabelamandlawenkosiwodumoemangalisayo Yebo Thank you. Of course it’s a little more complicated than my comment but this is the most simple way to explain it. Another issue is that Boeing told airlines that pilots who were used to older 737s could fly the MAX without extra training. This is turning out to be half true. While of course they can fly it that doesn’t mean they are prepared to deal with challenges from the new computerized systems and handling characteristics. Hopefully these two crashes lead to a revision that doesn’t allow this to happen ever again. There are now questions on the FAA that certified this plane. If they are just rubber stamping every new Boeing plane, this practice must stop immediately or the FAA will no longer be the most respected regulatory agency for civil aviation.
@@lecorsaire2283 It's like a scene from "2001, A Space Odyssey," when HAL...the computer takes over and says...."sorry, Dave, I can't obey that command"(or something like that). Computers gone psycho!
Yup. Even though Qatar's biggest airline, Emirate Airlines, ordered lots of 787 Dreamliners, so wouldn't it make more sense for Al Jazeera to _not_ air this? Hmmm.
They fail to do their job because they are underfunded and understaffed just like most of the federal regulatory agencies. So Congress listenes to industry lobbyists like in the video and gives the industries more self-regulatory authority instead of giving more funding to the agencies. We'd have that money if we had not spent trillions on foreign wars.
Politicians think that the job of the FAA is to rubber stamp American corporate products without any oversight. This maximizes profits and executive bonuses. Which is all that the rich care about. Money. Deaths? People are expendable.
That poor whistler blower engineer! You did what was right on a human level knowing that people’s lives were in your hands, you should never be embarrassed or ashamed for having a conscience
Worked for McDonnell Douglas and for Boeing. I worked in the aircraft industry all of my life. I witnessed, starting in the eighties, the quality of labor changing from the best and brightest scientists, engineers, technicians, repairmen, maintenance men, purchasers, clerical and secretarial staff, et al. to the dregs who are uneducated, unskilled, foreigners who can barely read and write English if at all. Couple that with domestic workers who come from EEOC, off-the street high school dropouts, drug addicts, ... They are cheaper but you get what you pay for. Use these workers to design and build things people stake their lives on and that spells disaster.
@@PaulReinhard My argument has nothing to with the number of planes flying, past or present or about crashes, past or present. I think you need to REREAD my post AND comprehend my post. I was referring to the industry getting rid of their intelligent, experienced and qualified technical workers and replacing them with unqualified, inexperienced but cheaper labor.
@@JonHeckendorf perhaps you need to reread the comment. Unintelligent foreigners building planes would result in more crashes, wouldn't it? However, that's not the case. So, its best if the unintelligent people who can barely speak English build planes since the statistics prove its safer if those unintelligent people built the planes.
@@preciousjose I didn't say "unintelligent" (your word) but I also didn't write "dregs", "EEOC", "school dropouts" or drug-addicts" either. Someone changed my post. We live in interesting times. Fly or don't fly, I don't care what you do.
@@PaulReinhard I went to the NTSB website and looked up the numbers. Some increase in number of flights but about the same ratio to crashes AND about the same number of crashes. Well within an acceptable standard deviation to be statistically about the same. That said, I was talking about cheap foreign labor replacing American labor.
Amazing that a company that has produced the best aircraft in the world can suddenly be demonized with a single complete hit piece, courtesy of : Union's at odds with Boeing over their other plant, AIRBUS { who knows?}, and Al Jazeera..............................
@@guyguz7 I would agree with you but as I watched this video I continually came back the 737 MAX. The issue with this video was well before any 737 MAX issues. Thus I must question the content of your comment.
Considering how much money they've lost, I suspect they are less dedicated to greed than they are to keeping the company going with the naive and ignorant workforce they are stuck with. The old guys who were on top of things are long gone. Nobody is indifferent to crashes- you really ought to walk back your simple-mined pronouncement. If you spout off with something like that in front of a Boeing employee you're liable to need facial reconstruction.
@@craigwall9536 coming from a Boeing employee, yourelf or relation to? Still gonna say its greed pure and simple....give me a detailed reason why it is not greed pure and simple
This documentary is 9 yrs old. Out of curiosity, I looked it up and it turns out "As of December 2023, the 787 program has booked a total of 1,909 orders and made 1,110 deliveries while recording zero fatalities and no hull losses."
Its not the "Dream Liner" but the "Dream On". Boeing is no more. Greed Lead to hundreds of people Lost their Lifes. And "people" like me dont forget how and why Boeing Airplanes are killing people. 787,777 or any other model, Boeing Reputation with Quality and Safety being Tarnished beyond repair,its just a matter of time before Boeing Start to fade away . When "you" Start to kill inocent people by the hundreds by Sheer ( criminal) Negligence, "your" Destiny is Sealed.
787 was issued an Airworthiness Directive for a series of battery fires a few years after it started flying. All aircraft worldwide were grounded till a solution was found. It was just fortunate that the fire occurred while the jet was on ground.
Passenger Aircraft are only as safe as the safety standards of the manufacturer.. How many faults/controversies have been covered up, to protect Boeing's reputation?
I'm wondering if that is pure luck they never had fatalities, or maybe the main bits are done correctly, and only the less important parts are falling off, like doors and interior panels, but not the engines or the wings... so even with a million faults its somehow able to fly.. I don't know
The dreamliner had multiple issues, with one just catching fire while on the ground, Now we have these crashes of the 737 Max 8's. A new launched plane nose diving out of the sky is unheard of. The FAA is in Cahoots with these businesses. The FAA is to help the airlines compete just like the FDA is there to help hospitals and drug companies make money. Most academic institutions are businesses operating for grant money. Rome rotted from the inside. That fate is awaiting us.
The mandela effect is the cause of the airplane crashes. The turbines used to be directly under the wing, but now it has magically moved to the front of the wings. research it
@@TheWormzerjr they moved the engines forward because they were too large to fit under the wings. Then it caused a fault and the plane kept diving because of yhe airflow. So then they put MCAS system to override the airflow problem thus several more faults and not telling any airlines or pilots about the MCAS system... this caused 2 huge accidents and caused them to get grounded. Much love an aircraft expert 🤷♀️
Lol.....understand what you are saying.......I couldn't take an ordinary stainless steel table knife on board a plane.......yet meals were served on that plane.....with steel cutlery!
Consumer lithium batteries aren't exactly designed to the same standards as aviation parts. And cargo also isn't stored in special compartments that can be vented to the outside like the 787's batteries are. The primary risk with carrying consumer lithium batteries in the cargo decks is them igniting the other cargo, resulting in an out-of-control fire (which has happened and has crashed freighters.) As far as "being carried on by passengers," you're horribly wrong there. Not only are passengers not prohibited from carrying on lithium batteries, they're *required* to carry on any spare lithium batteries they may have. They're required to be carried in the passenger cabin, so that, when they do start fires (and they do from time to time,) they can be extinguished by the cabin crew and/or passengers. They can't do that in the cargo hold, which is why they're not allowed there. Millions of lithium batteries are carried on airliners around the world each and every day. There is an approximately 0% chance that any commercial flight you will be on at any time in the foreseeable future will not have lithium batteries in the passenger cabin.
WOW. This is from 2014 and this was their reaction to concerns then imagine what it is like now!!!! Unbelievable that they just deflect on what workers at the plant were saying. Surely an ETHICAL company would appreciate this investigation and TAKE ACTION. This is really depressing. (Edit) Great investigation :)
Did u see the face of that gm, he was blinking like a deer in headlights, looking for a previously learned and memorized line to fit in. Why are people so worried about looking good, be good instead, looks are deceiving....
"They fly their private jets. " Private jets tend to have more accidents than commercial airliners. "They build these plans for money." Oh that's good. If they didn't they'd go out of business and then no planes would get built.
Dear Mr Nyonje, my condolences goes out to your national and our other African brothers and sisters who lost their loved ones due to the airline failure which resulted to the crash. I propose we build our own African Aircraft that competes with the best. I'm sure we can hire plenty of good engineers back in VA.
At least China grounded the Boeing 737 so that more lives would not be lost -- otherwise the US would have done nothing, with the Corporate Media telling everyone how safe they are!!
This report gives a new viewpoint to the old adage that we used to voice for over a generation, while working in the industry: “IF IT AIN’T BOEING, I AIN’T GOING, which , after viewing this report, should change to: IF IT’S BOEING, I AIN’T GOIN’!
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." Feynman on Challenger disaster, 1986, couldn't be more accurate
This is also a US government problem, since they cut funding to the FAA to the point that they can't police the manufacturers like Boeing like they used. That means Boeing certifies their own aircraft, like the 787 and 737 Max. On the Max they cut corners to rush it to the market because the Airbus A320 Neo was stealing their customers. And today we see the results.
@@jamesscully529 Airbus never stoll Boeing's customers. Because Boeing and Airbus have a duopoly over the aerospace industry, it's simply not profitable for one to steal the others customers. When Airbus came out with the Neo option for there a320s in 2014, they did take some of Boeings marketshare but were very nervous of crossing the 60-65% point. This would've causing Boeing to invest billions of dollars in a completely new aircraft in an attempt to buy customers back. As a result, Airbus would've had to do the same to keep a solid share in the short-medium range market. Airbus wanted Boeing to come out with a Max option that would cost a 1/10 of what designing a new aircraft would cost and keep Boeing from investing billions on a new aircraft so Airbus didn't have to invest billions after invested perhaps a few hundred million on coming up with the Neo option.
Some of their planes are pretty good, and there are a lot of other planes out there which are worse, not that I'm trying to defend what they've been doing more recently. The 777, for example, has a great track record.
Waw!! All these deep and thoroughly executed interviews with those highest in command performed by Al Jazeera’s journalists are worthy of a Nobel Prize in Journalism.......if there was such a thing...
Airbus has just as many safety issues as does Boeing. Lack sleep f Corporate integrity is an international issue and most are worse than Boeing. The French "FAA" is big on coverups on French aviation.
Unions could and should work ! And work with management . For the common good :-) I just see them failing the working class while living the high life on workers subscriptions ! Just comes off my pay each month ! How are the regular union meetings attended ? Not in time of strife ? Weekly, monthly ? 3 times a year ? With respect , how did it get this far ? An employer needs an employee , at a certain cost :-) That is a contract . Unhappy , do not sign ! Later say not happy . Can leave :-) No official slavery ! Minimum wage is the buzzword , exploitation is another ! I want you do do that for so much , its negotiation . I have negotiated and got a bad deal , not often ! Has anyone heard of Unions cutting the wage bill to spare the jobs of their fellow Unionists ?
Watching this "old news" clip puts in perspective what Boing has been doing for years. Now we have 737 MAXs falling from the sky. Good thing the profits are up!
I read 70 per cent of people won't fly the 737 max ,I don't blame them .It's time to fly air bus a better safety record.that what's important ,Boeing has lost sight of that.
Qatar Airways has actually been going all in on the 787 and relying on it heavily. This exposé did not age well. Plus, the battery redesign has been proven successful. The only thing that can even touch the 787 is the A350, but they usually don't serve the same routes in my experience.
@@seventh-hydra Age well? It's only six years ago and all it will take is one crash that's attributed to faulty construction to bring a glaring spotlight back on them.
@Aryan Saldanha "The horizontal stabilizer problem is not believed to pose a safety issue, according to Boeing, but it will affect future deliveries." Yeah, I'm sure. Because I actually read articles instead of just the headlines.
The FAA has a lot to answer for with its policy of self regulation and certification for air-frames. Like the banks self regulating, whose interests do you think comes first?.
My roommate works in the Tesla factory in austin, and him coming from working at the Toyota plant says the level of incompetency is astounding. He loves the job but can't believe how poorly it's managed
This engineer v management problem has similarities to the Challenger disaster. I.e. Morton Thiokol knew about the SRB design o ring problem from engineer Roger Boisjoly. He raised the issue with management, but was ignored and overruled. As soon as you put money before safety, disaster is sure to follow. Shocking.
It's 2024, & this documentary never gets old!
Agreed!
Lithium is a killer!
Then they off'd that whistleblower
After reading more into the state of Boeing, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I'll be very surprised if they're still in business ten years from now.
Jim McNerney's incompetence utterly destroyed the company.
Came out today: ''US FAA requires inspections of Boeing 787 planes following mid-air dive''
Congratulations Al Jazeera... you were 9 years ahead of your time with this report!
100%
Aljazeera never gets old!
Not one 787 has even crashed in over a decade of use. Zero fatalities. Millions of flights. The 787 is One if the safest planes ever to fly. Broken dreams??? Ok lol
@@Jeff-sp7bg well 1 bird doesn't make spring. If quality is neglected for 737s , what is the guarantee that this doesn't happened for other types. Besides the whistle-blowers said it is Boeing issue, not a particular type of plane issue. I'd rather not gamble with mine or my family life. So yeah.. I will not board death coffins. You go ahead and be my guest.
@gergister nothing in life is guaranteed. If you want guaranteed safety then live in a plastic bubble with reinforced concrete. Your lifetime chance of dying in a vehicle accident is 1 in 200 on an Airliner it's 1 in 6 million. Heck with the 737 max debacle there have been zero fatalities in over 60 million total flights worldwide and over 5 years so if that's the worst plane out there then that just shows how safe flying is. I prefer to go out there and live life at the end of the day life is dangerous Noone survives in the end 100% of everybody dies....
Makes you wonder why western media is trying to paint Al Jazeera as an unreliable propaganda News.
Here we are 10 years later, two 737 MAX 8 aircraft have crashed a 737 MAX 9 has just lost a plug door mid air and manufacturing issues still continue to plague new aircraft deliveries.
It's just disgusting. There is no hope.
@@JoeKubinec then they will fail
you’re commenting on the incorrect frame type.
The title is about the “787”.
Just trying to help you understand Sir.
@@kamakaziozzie3038 He's commenting on Boeing quality problems, which span across every airplane they currently make including the 737 line.
This was about the 787, not about 737. They fixed the Dreamliner faults a long time ago.
I am a retired aerospace worker at a MRO company in CANADA. I found this video very enlightening. When the FAA handed over certification responsibility over to BOEING, the bells went off in my head. It was not long before The Department of Transport here in CANADA followed. I for the life of me could not believe such power to the fox to guard the hen house. Makes no sense morally or professionally.
Good story
We’re always copying Americans stupidity, out of laziness.
What were the lawsuit payoff amounts from the two fatal crashes?
Why does Canada always copy what the USA does even if it's wrong?
Demonstrates how our country🎉 doesn't give one whit about us tax payers we are all expendable to ensure corporate greed!!
@@claykemper7193zip, but the government fined itself 2 billion dollars to make us serfs feel better!!
four years later and the massive 737 Max and this documentary gains a whole new meaning
Tell me about.. today 2024!
@@oliviernyssen8041the concerning aspect is that going back 10 years...the 787 dreamliner, the 737max, the 777x family...all great examples of what not to do...
This aged like fine wine.
Yes indeed. It’s damning evidence of how our media is captured by money / lobbying/kickbacks and massive ad buying to keep them shut
Fine milk
Bull, age like milk
Lol why? There were no problems with them since these initial hickups..
diamonds, even
This is one of the most important documentaries of all time.
It is true journalism. Like a congresswoman said concerning another issue, the mainstream media are but stenographers.
@imagereader_9 He doesn't know if he's serious.. typical reddit hivemind
Maybe for boeing by hindsight. If you were right, we would not talk about this now. We can agree that this was well ahead of it's time. I saw this back then, it had millions of views in 2015 too. Whish the right people listen next time.
I agree.
You should watch a documentary on the 11/9/01 air crashes and the trippe towers. Done for corporate corruption.
Al Jazeera again proving to be a good source of journalism
I worked for boeing for 30 years. Everybody should take this video to heart. They changed immediately after the merger.
well you suck to
gladto begone its like they became dc .. theres a reason dc10 and the mcd douglas planes have a bad rep.. they are doing it again!!
They are all merging for a reason. To control us.
This bothers me. Knowing who the merge with & they terrible planes they made, no wonder their planes aren’t good. I see why people fly on Airbus now. Which after watching this, I think I’m flying air bus from now on.
If you think safety is expensive try an accident.
Thanks Al Jazeera. We need as much investigating reporting of this quality as we can get
I also want to thank Al Jazeera. The worker’s comments in South Carolina are utterly shocking ! They have no ability, no pride.
Very opposite attitude from people in Seattle.
Al jazeera should investigate male misogyny in islam and worker deaths in qatar. Why the delay?
Al Jasera Spreading stupidity….!!!!
It's a great investigation. But don't be naive, they only do it because it shows how bad and evil a US company managed by greedy evil people is.
Always consider multiple sources from different sides to make up your oppinion and gain knowledge. The media these days isn't about information spreading anymore, it's almost exclusively used for political reasons and propaganda. Luckily there are more and more small independent journalists, but they can also be motivated by their ideology.
I'm retired now, with 27,000 hours on multiple Boeing types and it disgusts me what this once brilliant company has become.
boeingdriver29 one of the effects of massive greed.
Freddie Fudpukker totally agree.
After all that has happened, all I can feel is sadness, bitterness, and rage. Boeing was once a company of class and integrity. But when they merged with McDonnell Douglas, it became all about "cost saving" and "the bottom line." But once 'the bottom line' was safety, then it suddenly became corporate profit at any cost. And what a cost they will pay...
@@tiffsaver The funny thing is, McDD built excellent planes, like the DC-9 (later MD-80 series), the C-17 Globemaster III (originally Douglas), The F-4 Phantom II (McDonnell), the F-15 Eagle (McDonnell). Not exactly a rubbish history.
@@tenkloosterherman
If you want to dig into history, Boeing had an excellent quality and safety record, too. It was when they MERGED that things suddenly went downhill... fast.
After the recent news about a 787 dropping significantly in the sky, this video is all the more relevant.
that was a pilot error . moved the chair back too fast and hit the lever.
@@Sanyu-Tumusiime that's what they are telling us...
@@OrcaBoat3 That is not what they're telling us. It's not Boeing's fault that the 787 dropped 5000 feet in the sky.
@@OrcaBoat3smooth brain
@@DABK2024 agreed
'The engineers are afraid to fly the plane they've made', that tragically sums up it all.
That's not confined to Boeing. I worked with automotive engineers that wouldn't drive their cars on a trip over 100 miles. Engineers these days are chickenshit because they never built anything in their lives- they just sit at their desks and run applications. They actually have NO practical experience, and their cynicism is a lame attempt to appear wise. Trust me: they're only two doors down from imposters.
@mtrujillo1973 passangers also fly (on board of ) the airplane.
mtrujillo1973 - ur smart, “not”. Pilots have also come out to say that the plane is not safe and is built substandard. Google it.
In almost nine years of flying, not a single hull loss, and this plane has flown millions of miles.
@@craigwall9536 People who design and the people who manufacture rely on each other - they are not the same thing champ.
This is Al Jazeera at it’s very best. Some of the most hardcore investigative journalism I’ve ever see or heard.
somebody doesn't want to expose human trafficking and slave labour in the MiddleEast.....
@@brassicaolaraceaolaracea1115 And beheadings, stoning of women.......
The did a piece on Malaysia on the Covid lockdowns and foreign workers here recently.
It could be classified as a total fabricated lie.
Their journalist got booted out of the country.
0 credibility.
@@brassicaolaraceaolaracea1115 I think whataboutism can sometimes be a good evidence. It is like saying Officer, I am not the only one speeding or the other cars are speeding, why did you pull only me? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
@@jimbosammy4255 I think whataboutism can sometimes be a good evidence. It is like saying Officer, I am not the only one speeding or the other cars are speeding, why did you pull only me? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
My heart simply crumbled for John Woods at how he was essentially punished for trying to do the right thing. The sadness was palpable as he described the struggle to survive after unjustly being terminated. Corporate thugs is an understatement. Psychopathic carcinogen is more like it.
Sadness in his eyes tells us all. While the CEO makes $25 million a year, his pension is $250,000. I wish somebody can arrange for these two to meet. How this ceo sleep at night !
American workers have zero rights in Corp America. They have more lawyers.
Allegedly, Liability and you will get fired for telling the truth. Honesty has zero place in Corp. America.
This is why America cannot become great again. It's corrupt at its core values. Lawyers are the true power joint ventured with politicians in power.
All corporations and all entities that work underneath the "skyscraper people" are the cancer cells. The skyscraper cities and corporations are the tumors.
I have bipolar disorder type 2, and spend 38 and a half years as a technical documentation and project leader specialist in high-tech. The man who admitted his disorders and got crushed is my hero. Always do the right thing.
Weaponizing someone's managed mental health issues against them is genuinely evil. I'm glad you had a good career.
Watching this, knowing this was recorded long before the 737 Max, give me chills.
You can really say, we all have seen this coming, this is murder by forging safety standards.
Funny thing is I watched this more than 5 years ago, I was skeptical. When the 737 MAX issues happened, I then thought back to this doccie.
Couldn't agree more, this 787 story was essentially the canary in the coal mine and too few saw it drop from the perch!
You can stop pretending Airbus didn't have problems....there were serious issues with Airbus too, even crashes, but I don't see you reporting it! This is just another hit job attempt by Aljazeera and Europeans. Disgruntled employees selectively picked to support your predetermined goals, which is to falsely report to create a hitjob!
Why don't you investigate or inform yourself about all the serious issues Airbus had....this is just another hit job by Aljazeera. Boeing isn't allowed to solve their issues but Airbus is.....double standard. What about the company who built the batteries, safety and workmanship issues, and compromised.
Washington has more drugies than anywhere else....ever been there, I have! That's probably one of the reasons the company moved. Every ISO certified company has employees who write instructions about production processes. Sooner or later any manufactured product will fail. Blame Obama and Hillary.....clueless stooges.
I worked for Boeing in Wichita in the 70's and was called on the carpet for making less parts than the 35 year veteran on 1st shift. They showed me his part bin and mine. I asked what all the white tags were on almost all his parts, but mine had none, and he, the plant manager, told me to go back to work and I never heard another word about it. Those white tags were failed inspection tags. Those parts were estimated to be worth $50k.
I was proud to work there then because quality was their priority.
Their planes were considered the safest in the air back then. Not so much now.
Boeing engineer speak - we have placed the batteries in a fire containment vessel vented to atmosphere, in plain English - we have installed a fireplace for the batteries and built a chimney!
andrew allen, they call them enjuneers, and now they r won! 👺
You nailed it!
You are correct and the little black panel with the lighted button that says Circuit Breaker is just there to make ya feel better...
@Roman Lightman ¹
😂 🤣 🤣 OK that was funny 😂 "fireplace for the batteries and built a chimney" 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 brilliant 😂
I was a Boeing Quality Assurance inspector and I could see this profit before quality attitude, initially they had separate managers one for production and one for quality.
Then around 2000 they decided to remove the quality manager and put the whole responsibility on the production manager and told him to wear different hats for different decision's.
Problem is when your job is on the line when something is late, what hat will he put on?
I remember someone from United saying "The Boeing aircraft made after 2000 had more technical difficulties than those made before 2000 or any Airbus aircraft"
trolls spotted🤡🤡😊
@@prasenjittripura4691 ??
That was a new "business model" that started in the mid 90's called "getting rid of the middle man" by having each employee work the load of two after performing massive layoffs. They kept routine layoffs the whole time I was living in Everett-where their building is. My mom worked for the city in Surface Water Management and they kept fining Boeing for illegal dumping. They destroyed an entire salmon spawning stream, and each stream is it's own species, so Boeing made an entire run of salmon go EXTINCT.
@@AshleySpeaks4U Absolutely disgusting
My father worked for Canadian General Electric in Manufacturing and Engineering. I recall him coming home in the 60s and lamenting the quality control was going out the door because the "accountants were running the show". This BS has been going on for years.
The CEO and accountants should sit in the test flights.
I did quality control for a few years, and fortunately, except for one boss who shouldn't have been a boss, I learned some valuable skills.
Steve Hoyland, I stopped flying!!!
@@clemalford9768 I took the Queen May 2 on my last crossing, and it was a good deal too.
@@clemalford9768 Fortunately I ceased active pilot training and upon discussing this with FBO I am told I can hire Commercial as PIC then just do pleasure flying ◘ airline remains safest over 100 mile base
As a retired quality control guy, I think that having so many different contractors making parts for the 787 is a huge part of the problem. From a quality standpoint it is much harder to moitor quality when the jobs are farmed out all over the place. Boeing made a big error in allowing this multi-worldwide site manufacturing of airplane parts plan. But Boeing itself has clearly compromised its quality process, thus endangering lives in the process.
You said it well and so true
Boeing needs to bring all manufacturing, production, quality control back home to WA. Go back to where positive outcome was a consistent product.
Boeing need to listen to this documentary
@@mudooladaniel1303Yes. 😁
I dated a fellow who worked for TWO companies making Boeing parts, so you are correct. The parts are made all over. They TRIED setting up shop in Mexico and the fuselage came back WIRED WRONG. They learned their lesson.
I spent 3 years in that SC plant in the very beginning of the program. It was a Boeing partner, Global Aeronautica, then and I took my 30+ years of experience and left in 2010 when it became too much to try and overcome the incompetence that surrounded everything in that building. There are hundreds of "John Woods" in that place just too scared to speak up because it's David v Goliath all day everyday.
follow the money
So scary. I hope we won’t be finding big issues in the next few years.
My grandpa worked for Boeing for 30+ years. He would be rolling in his grave if he knew what Boeing had become.
You are exactly right.
you have a duty as a citizen to speak up when safety health and welfare of the public depend on it.
Planes made by Boeing are like planes "Made in China." China, Boeing and McDonnell Douglas, they are getting closer every day.
Accountants, business-people and other bean counters are made in China.
Wow, I used to think it would be awesome to work for Boeing but not after this. As an engineer I’ll absolutely be avoiding them.
I'm rewatching this after quite a while. I laughed out loud when they visited the Italian company building the body out of composite to save money. I know it's not exactly the same but all I could think of was Oceangate and the Titan. Boeing's lack of QC and cheapness is like an echo.
@phantagirlable
"It shouldn't be this hard to do the right thing" 🥺
It broke my heart to hear him say that.
787 Horrible when full not many toilets kitchen facilities not good 747 /777 A350/ A380 best
Try running a business (referencing the trades) competing against illegal labor. You will become disheartened quickly and then think of how to screw the government that clearly does not value honest business owners.
It's not. M.D. fools came in, took over and in many circles it's believed that they- childishly- did not want Boeing to EVER again surpass the original M.Douglass. It worked!😮🤯
As a retired union worker of 20yrs and employed at the Everett Plant, this is heartbreaking to watch.
It's not the same Boeing...
By a longshot. 💔
@Jake Haynes Not to mention the B-52s.
I used to say. "If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going." Now I say, "In Airbus I trust."
Trust none!
For me: It's a Boeing? I ain't going!
Or even “if it’s boeing I’m not going”
I’m not flying the 777x for 4 years. The 737max for 2. These planes are not safe. It takes airbus 3 years to develop a a321neo with an extra fuel tank. It somehow take boeing 4 years to build an all new plane. Lockheed Martin was the only good plane manufacturer in US history, but they sadly no longer make passenger planes. I am happy delta chose airbus.
@@TysonIke I only trust older 777 from boeing. Thats it. I would fly an airbus
Back here again due to a Boeing whistleblower that recently died due to a "self-inflicted" wound.
I wonder what the second part of his testimony would have been?
@@plastichouselady could have been soo damning that -Boeing killed- he did it to himself.
Frontline also has a documentary on Boeing. It's excellent. The question that remains for me is what are the airlines doing with the 737s they already have? I'm letting my local airline know that I never want to fly on a Boeing plane again.
I am joining the dots, Italy, Cosa Nostra: The Italian mafia is everywhere.
Especially when he told his family He wasn't suicidal and if anything happens to him someone else did it.
The old saying "If it's not Boeing I'm not going." has become "If it’s a Boeing I'm not going."
Trump is pulling his hair out with the corruption in the White House. He should working a week or two at Boeing... I can't wait 4 a competitor to come along and wipe Boeing off the maps... They used to be a good company until the Indians and Chinese got on board with em and showed em how to rip off the entire rest of the world....
How sad. Corporate greed.
@@thekingsilverado9004 Not Russians ? haha , Yanks always blame someone else . Boeing was a yankee company last time I checked.
@@thekingsilverado9004 lol. You guys always put the blame on someone else. First the innocent pilots who don't know anything about the MCAS and now you blamed the Indians and Chinese? You guys are just dumb.
@@thekingsilverado9004 He wears a hairpiece, so he has no hair. And Chevy is owned by GM (government motors).
That top manager you interviewed at Boeing when you showed him proof that quality control was over ruled by top management, he looked like a deer in headlights.
It was the first time the VIP heard of QA.
Boeing Charged with 737 Max Fraud Conspiracy and Agrees to Pay over $2.5 Billion says alot, all you have to do is google it and see the DOJ report!
who is watching this in 2019 after the 737 max scandal?
I am.
Carol Morris could it be all rigged up?? Due to a?? Following the other’s... airbus? Sold out to the corporate office pays to Play...
I got to meet Boeing first test pilot H.C. Kit Carson... globalization efforts makes problems with aviation?
Who made the battery packs? For the Dreamliner? Grounded from? Now 737 max issues??? Problem with?? Politicians or maybe elsewhere? Yes indeed outside interference from a ??? Competitors insight$? Pays to Play in Career Politics ask those senators in Washington $tate. GlowBall efforts to do in Boeing’s status??
My brother from the 82nd airborne.. I was next door at US Pope AFB.... Honorable and Truth always
No taqqyia
Paul Ayers you made no sense whatsoever in your comment
following the "how it happened" trail before they file for bankrupsy
@@663rainmaker its not the aircraft that are the problem , its the developing third world countries pilots that have caused the problem.
From the U.S. : Thank you, Al Jezzira , for Excellent investigative reporting .
Seeing what happened to John woods, and the recent “suicide” of the one whistleblower (John Barnett) is insane
Government government government its going to stop but when
The 30-year veteran of Boeing is John Barnett. He was still in the midst of testifying and his civil suit against Boeing was nearing a settlement and then the next day we hear he dies? Very much sounds like foul play. His brother said he suffered from PTSD and was working in a hostile environment and thinks that caused his suicide. Then his colleague by the name of Jennifer said that he himself said if anyone says my death was by suicide is lying. Who do you believe?
John Barnett was his name
the Whistleblower, that is, who was just so happened to have a very timely death. RIP for the dedication to true engineering ethics and integrity.
@@douglanders5558 real, he’s actually doing his job as an engineer, in my College major I’m forced to take a class on engineering ethics before graduation
So in the last 7 years, boeing has had 2 series of planes get grounded, i think that says it all
Both of which were developed after the merger, after the corporate relocation, after the strike.
It maintains that is a great place 544⁴4
Bad news: the 737 Max was re-approved. I guess they finally scraped together enough bribe money to make a government official sign the paperwork...
@@largol33t1: You really think so?! If you do then you’re one idiotic Airbus troll!!
If the same thing happens to the 777x I am done with new Boeing products.
As an electrical engineer I am appalled at the layout of that battery pack. All those wires connecting the individual cells can not be the best layout, but it certainly look the cheapest.
Pretty dam near a "rats' nest" wiring job. A generous source of possibilities for disaster.
As a marine electrician in San Diego, I remember having boats built in China totally stripped of their wire harnesses and refitted for safety purposes, in order to qualify for the insurance policy.
We've come a long way baby!
How can an airliner company fail to build a simple safe bus box? LiFePo isn't much worse on energy density, China was right to ban lithium ion metal in big batteries.
Union electrician for 33 years and
Seen better wiring in a wall outlet
Then that battery box..corporate greed , but worked on dream liner hangers.. Boeing is great company
rip john barnett
Al Jazeera does hard work finding problems inside Boeing and its safety.
Result: Some clown cuts interview and Boeing denies everything. Way to go Boeing. Real professional. You truly care for our safety.
Maybe it's time to investigate the Boeing 737 Max
You mean the MD 737 MAX?
Manufactured by the same company, roots of the problems must be the same. If 787's got issues, the new 737 can't be the exception, the ethics of the 21st century large corporates has been compromised and corrupt. This is when disasters strike. Everywhere, even car industry, like the Volkswagen diesel scandal.
Who knows when in a few years, they might have to do an investigation on the Boeing 777X
Seconded
Investigate India Incs for failure
The merger between Boeing an McDonnell Douglas has destroyed Boeing's image... Massive respect to Airbus!
Yep MD management came in and slashed the research and development budget which was the major reason why Boeing was such a great company in the first place up until that point. It took a few years but those billions in R&D cuts caught up to them as the documentary shows. They also started outsourcing parts without a good QA supply line and the batteries are a good example of that.
I rather fly a air bus they seem to be doing it right.
PAN-PAN Air Bus has problems too
TLO wow youre a really rude person, to a small degree you do get to choose which aircraft type youre on, websites literally tell you when purchasing a ticket what aircraft you can expect to be on.. depending on which aircrafts fly the route you can always choose to fly another type of aircraft on a different date. its not much but there is a small amount of preference available.
@@TLO129 "I could care less" doesn't mean what you think it means. You're spot on about the MCAS issue... when I first saw it I thought good lord, just cut off the stab trim switches. I learned that way back in 1977 in KC-135 training, and practiced it in E-3s after that.
As a journalist abroad, I interviewed an electrician who spotted something extremely dangerous within a sunflower oil manufacturing plant where he worked: The plant could blow up with all houses around for half a mile or so. A major public safety concern. I published it. Next thing a lawyer from the plant came to see me asking me who the whistleblower was: I refused to tell. But they figured out that only an electrician could know and fired him. We live in a crazy world.
Thanks Ricardo..a perfect example of what is wrong with Corporate Culture.The lawyers act as if they have no moral code/ethics base whatsoever.
@philipambler3825 they are filling a need which upper management pays for. you want to find blame? Look at the "leaders" of the company.
For those doubting this video: this is really happening in every company. Greedy people are taking over. All they care about and understand are numbers. They are hiring people that don't understand what they are doing and closing their eyes on huge quality issues. I've seen first hand in some of the biggest companies that are supposedly famous for quality, like swiss watches.
And if you dare to speak up, you get fired...
Very true! and none of them pay taxes. Earning billions of dollars and paying no or very little federal taxes is crazy. That tells me that our government officials are corrupt. This unfortunately wont stop until it all falls, then you will see all of these politicians heading to other countries.
Yah, investment companies like Black Rock and Vanguard and of course, McDowell.
@ Yes, but I was thinking more globally, in a lot of very different industries, not just planes.
Justifying evil
Excellent-
Perhaps even more relevant in 2019 than it was in 2014
Yep, in hindsight *all* the warning signs are there in a dodgy as f--- corporate culture. I am seriously avoiding Boeing aircraft these days. Glad I live in Europe, where we have lots of airlines using Airbus fleets.
Obama was happy about them
@@pitech4446 ,,Yes, I have done some searching on these jets,,Horrible !!!
Colleen Peterson m990
The MAX problem has nothing to do with the 787. The 787 is a great aircraft with a great safety record.
And now I return to this on March 13th, 2019 after the fatal accidents of two, revolunary best selling aircraft from Boeing. What else is there to say really. Aljazeera, I think it's time for a part two, the 737 Minimum Requirements.
737 MAXimum greed, or 737 MAXimum culpabilities
Yes...part TWO is in order. Please include WHO/WHAT was on those 2 downed 737 MAX 8 planes, who profited (had puts) on Boeing stock, and investigate whether the MCAS/automated plane could possibly be flown("hacked") REMOTELY. Oh yes, verify whether or not CHINA is about to take over this market with their new planes. Thanks for a great documentary.
I prefer the title "737 Crashmaster Max"
The current CEO is an accountant, enough said. American Airline is temporarily cancelling flights from Philidelphia to Madrid due to Boeing's inability to supply 787's in a timely manner, which is currently experiencing fuselage issues.
Let’s put CEOs + stockholders and thier entire family on test flight!
RICO Airlines
can't put those hats on planes because they are the owners..
(｡•́︿•̀｡) I agree 💔
Two-MoonZ zz
Well said .
Today watched again after 9 years of gap
4 years later now we have a new recurring"NIGHTMARE"
I'm afraid that Comac will crush Boeing in the long term. Give the Chinese another 10 years. Not so hard to compete against such a f..k-up of a company, anyway.
@@rene78 honestly its like watching dc try and catch up with marvel. people dont seem to understand that you need to put in quality in order to make quality.
500 years later and people still hold on to the spinning globe earth when in reality we humans have always lived on a Stationary Flat Plane. Its 2019, awaken to the Truth, The Earth Is A Flat Circular Plane.
@@wharris7594 😆🤣 I wonder if you flat earthers actually believe that?! 🤔 If you do, *seek help!!!*
@@wildone8397 it takes all kinds of stupid to believe the flat earth theory
Who's watching this after the tire scandal?
You mean the whistleblower scandal?
Which one?
There have been a few over the past 50 or so years.
Kleber Tires out of Europe comes to mind. With complete tread separation being a rather critical issue.
And then Goodyear having a few too.
Over the years that is.
I was 'line maintenance' in YYZ for over 30 + years. Changed a few tires in my life. Every day almost.
@@luckyguy600 I'm talking about the guy who was found deadright before testifying to congress a few days ago.
That is so worrisome. They already have blood on their hands but apparently that's not enough.
And after they shot Mr. Barnett, the whistleblower.
The great sadness is seeing a company like BOEING, recognised as the builder of legendary aircraft, decline to such a level. Corporate criminals are everywhere including in Politics and playing with people's lives to satisfy Corporate greed.
Very true. They are serving co-operate power.
truth
Very true.
Onlinesince82 oof Lockheed needs to buy Boeing and start doing commercial services
Embrear needs to expand into long haul aircraft if that ever happens
Great work, Al Jazeera. I've flown on Dreamliners a couple of times, but after seeing this I'll be flying something non-Boeing whenever possible. Good on you John Woods for having the courage to blow the whistle on this nonsense.
why would you not fly anything Boeing
@@nickolliver3021 I'd certainly fly on Boeing aircraft as a general class, but I would not say that the company has done anything to make me feel better about its sad state of priorities. I did fly on a 787-9 to Europe recently and it was a super nice ride. But ignorance is bliss I suppose. Now has there been any airframe failure related fatalities in the 787 line. None that I know of. So maybe we're on borrowed time? Hard to say.
@@ernietech-101The company has done something to make people feel better about its better state of priorities. They're definitely not In a sad state now. What ignorance is bliss? The 787 hasn't had any failure related fatalities in the production line. Just bad quality work that has now been addressed. I think they're on track to recovery and racking up more orders which is excellent to see
Good luck
Would you still fly on it now.
44:13 Paul Lewis, Boeing's communications director barges in on the interview, starts interrogating the reporter to give up his sources. He is eager to punish them, like all the other conscientious engineers fired before, who dared to report quality issues.
This is followed by the communications *director* freely giving orders to the vice president and general manager of the 787 program (Larry Loftis at that time). This shows the priorities of Boeing.
Yep, proper real example of the tail wagging the dog. These guys are SOO arrogant though, they dont even realize people can see them and know what they are. I got a flight to Singapore next week, checked it out, 777, designed the old, engineering first way - now sure how I'd felt if were something else though!
Selling a lie it is
You don't blind side no company like that, and they should have been tossed out on their heads.
LionPride11241968 gotta stand up for those little executives. Don't want them to be making 250k/year instead of 500k.
"You can't ask us a question like that we haven't had a chance to craft an answer". Sound like the answer going to be crafted from fake wood or some other crud they used to make the plane.
"We havnt had time to craft a response"
Wow.
Craft being key word
Hardly smacks of honesty.
this just completely changed my outlook on Boeing as a company. Will definitely think twice before flying on a Boeing plane.
Boeing now recommends as a solution wearing fire proof socks and sneakers and knowing Bible verses by heart before flying on one of their aircraft.
They have been caught hiring people with almost no manufacturing experience in their factories! And some employees openly admitted this! Their reputation is permanently tarnished. I refuse to fly on their Max models or Dreamliners. Can't trust them to care about safety. Remember their crazy fanboys: "It ain't Boeing so I ain't going!" Okay, what if the only airline that will fly them from City A to City B has Airbus A300s and NOBODY else in the airport has an available flight to City B? Trust me, the morons will take the flight rather than sleep at the airport until a Boeing plane shows up. They're so blind it's hilarious.
This reflects on the whole American aviation industry, who will hold this stupidity as an example of crony capitalism and why their needs to be ruthless regulation, for public safety.
I live 10 min away from where they build 737s and I will only fly Airbus, Embraer and CRJ models lol.
757 is the only exemption, love that plane.
Airbus has the issue where the flight controls aren’t linked. So if a pilot is making a mistake the other pilot would have no way of knowing.
I just watched the Australian 60mins program on the 737 max and this showed up in the watch next feed. This is very disturbing, but I should not be in-the least bit surprised! I have worked in the oil and gas industry for 15 years doing inspection work. They all claim safety is first until it stands in the way of the profit margin.
Watched the lionair crash in the sea of Indonesia, the grivences in the face of family members of the victims. We can't understand why the human life is of no value to the corporate world.
Nick L. Lol.. safety! It’s only matters when the boss is around but they know full well that the job would not get done if there’s no short cuts and safety cuts, we see it all the time in every industry, but most of the time we on the ground get away with it , not so when your in a Boeing 737 max , or maybe next a Dream liner , it’s discussing what Boeing has / and is doing . Thank God for Airbus, we’ve seen how safe they are just look at the Qantas A380 . Drama .. if that was a Boeing golly knows what would of happen, the 737 max has problems staying in the air with no blown engines. Hail the 747 those days are gone for Boeing I think 💭 sad
I watched this JUST BEFORE the 737 fiasco... so I knew wtf was up when they said 2 dropped out of the sky...
Same here
@@hbjaffri The American two-party political system, unfortunately, ensures all things that matter in human society defer to the growth & hoarding of corporate profits, executive compensation, and political longevity for public officials who act as industry sentries. US-style capitalism demands no deviation from this dystopian process.
It's not easy to do the right thing when the corporate establishment is based on greed. Mr. Woods, my heart goes out to you. You are a hero. We need more men like you in the world. Hold your head high.
our society is based on greed - our reason for being is based in greed. we wake up everyday to do what? make more money. remember Boeing and companies like them work at the behest of shareholders.
💯💯💯💯money always rules ethics and morals in corporate culture. PATHETIC!!
The Cocaine Culture in American Management is near the Core of the problem.
How does this investigation from 9 years ago not have 1Billion views?
Because most people don't want the truth. They believe it won't happen to them, and the topic is depressing.
I was told that by a few people I brought this up to.
What a wonderful world.
Because Americans have been brainwashed not to trust any news source outside of the US, particularly mid-Eastern. AlJazeera is I THINK Pakistani.
I used to fly a lot as a kid in the 80's and early 90's. After seeing this I wouldn't fly on any Boeing 737 or 787 made. This is something that more people need to see. Thanks.
how many have gone down? This is 2019.
@ christdragon, Hey genius : Amazing that a company that has produced the best aircraft in the world can suddenly be demonized with a single complete hit piece, courtesy of : Union's at odds with Boeing over their other plant, AIRBUS { who knows?}, and Al Jazeera..............................
And yet looking at the numbers, going by commercial jets is safer than going by car.
@@wardell1518 It should be even safer if they followed their own quality guidelines. See the repeat of quality issues on the 737 Max.
@@guyguz7, so you're saying that none of the things told here are true?
This indictment of Boeing quality control expands into anything America is building. Cars, appliances, homes, etc. I used to purchase GMC/Chevy Suv's for about 20 years. My last model a Yukon GMC, had so many problems, not only engine, but the way the doors fit, AC, heat, the hood, the seats that I no longer purchase American made vehicles. I have purchased only Toyota vehicles and have had absolutely no issues with them.
This is an issue with U.S. corporate culture. Investor return takes precident above all. Every new CEO must cut more costs than their predecessor. It will end in tears.
"Made in America" has lost its meaning.I used to work for electromotive diesel, which was part of G.M. at the time. We were building multi-million dollar engines for trains and ships, etc. The things I saw due to workers being rushed to meet schedules were ridiculous. The quality was garbage, I can imagine what happens at the car plants,if this is high $$ stuff and tons of issues would slip by. From a safety perspective, these engines would go in massive ships. Do you know what happens to a ship without propulsion? IT CAN GET EVERONE ON BOARD KILLED.
Toyota has made cars in Kentucky for the US market for ages, it's the company culture that makes the difference.
So disappointed with Boeing. The company, at least originally, is the best in the world, in my opinion but these new crooks and thieves are running it like a huge money spinning machine at whatever cost. Such a shame.
This is all because they refused to design a new 737. They simply put huge new engines on the same old design which makes the nose tilt up. That’s why they need this automatic MCAS system.
What can pilots do when there’s an out of control evil computer with bad info on board trying to crash the plane?
@@lecorsaire2283 interesting insight. Thanks much.
Sithabelamandlawenkosiwodumoemangalisayo Yebo Thank you. Of course it’s a little more complicated than my comment but this is the most simple way to explain it.
Another issue is that Boeing told airlines that pilots who were used to older 737s could fly the MAX without extra training. This is turning out to be half true. While of course they can fly it that doesn’t mean they are prepared to deal with challenges from the new computerized systems and handling characteristics. Hopefully these two crashes lead to a revision that doesn’t allow this to happen ever again.
There are now questions on the FAA that certified this plane. If they are just rubber stamping every new Boeing plane, this practice must stop immediately or the FAA will no longer be the most respected regulatory agency for civil aviation.
these new crooks might not want you to name them. if you know who they are please respond privately. thank you.
@@lecorsaire2283 It's like a scene from "2001, A Space Odyssey," when HAL...the computer takes over and says...."sorry, Dave, I can't obey that command"(or something like that). Computers gone psycho!
Watching this in 2024, after the tragedies of the 737 MAX crashes and the 737 door plug failure is just gut wrenching.
gut wrenching
I remember when this documentary was first aired it was ignored and derided because it was from Al Jazeera!
Yup. Even though Qatar's biggest airline, Emirate Airlines, ordered lots of 787 Dreamliners, so wouldn't it make more sense for Al Jazeera to _not_ air this? Hmmm.
@@vap0rtranz Emirates canceled their order of all dreamliners.
Hugo Stiglitz of course...typical!
Al Jazeera is amazing!
The bias is still obvious. Just look how much they dickride the people smoking weed as the worst people on the planet.
The FAA fails to do it's job, yet again.
They fail to do their job because they are underfunded and understaffed just like most of the federal regulatory agencies.
So Congress listenes to industry lobbyists like in the video and gives the industries more self-regulatory authority instead of giving more funding to the agencies. We'd have that money if we had not spent trillions on foreign wars.
Politicians think that the job of the FAA is to rubber stamp American corporate products without any oversight. This maximizes profits and executive bonuses. Which is all that the rich care about. Money. Deaths? People are expendable.
FAA or FDA, you get what you pay for.
FAA? You mean cop over corporate supremacy? Hasn't happened that way since the 1970's...
That poor whistler blower engineer! You did what was right on a human level knowing that people’s lives were in your hands, you should never be embarrassed or ashamed for having a conscience
I’m here after the death of John Barnett 🤨
This 6 years old piece, resonate hard in our mind today, after the Max scandal...
And the grounding of 787's due to production errors.....
Worked for McDonnell Douglas and for Boeing. I worked in the aircraft industry all of my life. I witnessed, starting in the eighties, the quality of labor changing from the best and brightest scientists, engineers, technicians, repairmen, maintenance men, purchasers, clerical and secretarial staff, et al. to the dregs who are uneducated, unskilled, foreigners who can barely read and write English if at all. Couple that with domestic workers who come from EEOC, off-the street high school dropouts, drug addicts, ... They are cheaper but you get what you pay for. Use these workers to design and build things people stake their lives on and that spells disaster.
Yet more planes are flying now than the eighties and there are much less crashes. Your argument does not really hold weight.
@@PaulReinhard My argument has nothing to with the number of planes flying, past or present or about crashes, past or present. I think you need to REREAD my post AND comprehend my post. I was referring to the industry getting rid of their intelligent, experienced and qualified technical workers and replacing them with unqualified, inexperienced but cheaper labor.
@@JonHeckendorf perhaps you need to reread the comment. Unintelligent foreigners building planes would result in more crashes, wouldn't it? However, that's not the case. So, its best if the unintelligent people who can barely speak English build planes since the statistics prove its safer if those unintelligent people built the planes.
@@preciousjose I didn't say "unintelligent" (your word) but I also didn't write "dregs", "EEOC", "school dropouts" or drug-addicts" either. Someone changed my post. We live in interesting times. Fly or don't fly, I don't care what you do.
@@PaulReinhard I went to the NTSB website and looked up the numbers. Some increase in number of flights but about the same ratio to crashes AND about the same number of crashes. Well within an acceptable standard deviation to be statistically about the same. That said, I was talking about cheap foreign labor replacing American labor.
the one word that comes to mind in this entire segment....GREED, pure and simple...greed
Boeing=Greed. I'll write that one down on the white board in the science lab tomm thanks..
Amazing that a company that has produced the best aircraft in the world can suddenly be demonized with a single complete hit piece, courtesy of : Union's at odds with Boeing over their other plant, AIRBUS { who knows?}, and Al Jazeera..............................
@@guyguz7 I would agree with you but as I watched this video I continually came back the 737 MAX. The issue with this video was well before any 737 MAX issues. Thus I must question the content of your comment.
Considering how much money they've lost, I suspect they are less dedicated to greed than they are to keeping the company going with the naive and ignorant workforce they are stuck with. The old guys who were on top of things are long gone. Nobody is indifferent to crashes- you really ought to walk back your simple-mined pronouncement. If you spout off with something like that in front of a Boeing employee you're liable to need facial reconstruction.
@@craigwall9536 coming from a Boeing employee, yourelf or relation to? Still gonna say its greed pure and simple....give me a detailed reason why it is not greed pure and simple
This documentary is 9 yrs old. Out of curiosity, I looked it up and it turns out "As of December 2023, the 787 program has booked a total of 1,909 orders and made 1,110 deliveries while recording zero fatalities and no hull losses."
Its not the "Dream Liner" but the "Dream On".
Boeing is no more.
Greed Lead to hundreds of people Lost their Lifes.
And "people" like me dont forget how and why Boeing Airplanes are killing people.
787,777 or any other model, Boeing Reputation with Quality and Safety being Tarnished beyond repair,its just a matter of time before Boeing Start to fade away .
When "you" Start to kill inocent people by the hundreds by Sheer ( criminal) Negligence, "your" Destiny is Sealed.
Weird to focus on 787 when this video clearly displays the workplace culture that killed hundreds of people (since this doc released)
787 was issued an Airworthiness Directive for a series of battery fires a few years after it started flying. All aircraft worldwide were grounded till a solution was found. It was just fortunate that the fire occurred while the jet was on ground.
Passenger Aircraft are only as safe as the safety standards of the manufacturer..
How many faults/controversies have been covered up, to protect Boeing's reputation?
I'm wondering if that is pure luck they never had fatalities, or maybe the main bits are done correctly, and only the less important parts are falling off, like doors and interior panels, but not the engines or the wings... so even with a million faults its somehow able to fly.. I don't know
Well done Al Jazeera! Exposing such issues is invaluable!
And now the 787 is a mainstay of international travel. Always with the negative and sensationalism.
@@daveseaver2998 let's see if the a350 can catch up.
Yeah, along with posting videos of radical Moosleems chopping people's heads off. Real journalism, that is.
We just hope that their motives behind that are genuine
Remember what happened to DeLorean
The dreamliner had multiple issues, with one just catching fire while on the ground, Now we have these crashes of the 737 Max 8's. A new launched plane nose diving out of the sky is unheard of. The FAA is in Cahoots with these businesses. The FAA is to help the airlines compete just like the FDA is there to help hospitals and drug companies make money. Most academic institutions are businesses operating for grant money. Rome rotted from the inside. That fate is awaiting us.
@DlLD0ES yes
Take a look also about 737-NG
Lam rof
THAT is the sad truth!
add the bloated, autonomous military and you got a deal
Lam rof yes, the dreamliner had many issues regarding it’s lithium batteries but remember Boeing is not the maker of them lithium batteries!
About time Al Jazeera launch an investigation into Boeing 737 Max...
The mandela effect is the cause of the airplane crashes. The turbines used to be directly under the wing, but now it has magically moved to the front of the wings. research it
@@TheWormzerjr they moved the engines forward because they were too large to fit under the wings. Then it caused a fault and the plane kept diving because of yhe airflow. So then they put MCAS system to override the airflow problem thus several more faults and not telling any airlines or pilots about the MCAS system... this caused 2 huge accidents and caused them to get grounded. Much love an aircraft expert 🤷♀️
@Andreas Andreas see below comment
This docu is even more damning now, nine years later....
So, in most cases, lithium batteries are banned from being carried on by passengers. Boeing is ALLOWED to install them on the plane. Got it.
Only loose ones as those don't all have short-circuit protection. But even those have lower changes of catching fire!
Lithium ion polymer batteries of any kind are forbidden by the USPS to be airfreighted.
Lol.....understand what you are saying.......I couldn't take an ordinary stainless steel table knife on board a plane.......yet meals were served on that plane.....with steel cutlery!
rights for some expenses for others.
Consumer lithium batteries aren't exactly designed to the same standards as aviation parts. And cargo also isn't stored in special compartments that can be vented to the outside like the 787's batteries are. The primary risk with carrying consumer lithium batteries in the cargo decks is them igniting the other cargo, resulting in an out-of-control fire (which has happened and has crashed freighters.)
As far as "being carried on by passengers," you're horribly wrong there. Not only are passengers not prohibited from carrying on lithium batteries, they're *required* to carry on any spare lithium batteries they may have. They're required to be carried in the passenger cabin, so that, when they do start fires (and they do from time to time,) they can be extinguished by the cabin crew and/or passengers. They can't do that in the cargo hold, which is why they're not allowed there. Millions of lithium batteries are carried on airliners around the world each and every day. There is an approximately 0% chance that any commercial flight you will be on at any time in the foreseeable future will not have lithium batteries in the passenger cabin.
WOW. This is from 2014 and this was their reaction to concerns then imagine what it is like now!!!! Unbelievable that they just deflect on what workers at the plant were saying. Surely an ETHICAL company would appreciate this investigation and TAKE ACTION. This is really depressing. (Edit) Great investigation :)
"We didn't have time to CRAFT a proper response."
-Boeing's Communication Director
So I delegated it to my secretary.
Did u see the face of that gm, he was blinking like a deer in headlights, looking for a previously learned and memorized line to fit in. Why are people so worried about looking good, be good instead, looks are deceiving....
Hillary taught him well.
floyd hunt - yes, indeed, executive looked nervous, clearly not expecting that damning document.
he looked like a robot trying to divide by zero and having a processor overload
Over the years ALJazeera's quality of investigation and presentation have been impeccable.
Two thumbs up!
Quality programing.
This report 9yrs ago..
But if you're a Cocaine Addict in management, all you care about is the Money..to keep up your addiction.
All the executives should have to be on the first 100 flights of their new project.
"They fly their private jets. "
Private jets tend to have more accidents than commercial airliners.
"They build these plans for money."
Oh that's good. If they didn't they'd go out of business and then no planes would get built.
Sure: a good idea for simple legislation that could be enacted so easily.
Strapped to the underside of the engine... Intake or outlet nay it don't matter...
Give me the first 100 flights free I'll do it
Why
The boeing employee had hurt in his eyes this is how you know how bad this company is
Here after The Ethiopian Boeing 737 Crash on 10/3/2019
they bought half the airplane.
2018?
Dear Mr Nyonje, my condolences goes out to your national and our other African brothers and sisters who lost their loved ones due to the airline failure which resulted to the crash.
I propose we build our own African Aircraft that competes with the best. I'm sure we can hire plenty of good engineers back in VA.
@@MohamedHassan-ni6un thanks alot mate. It was so unfortunate
At least China grounded the Boeing 737 so that more lives would not be lost -- otherwise the US would have done nothing, with the Corporate Media telling everyone how safe they are!!
This report gives a new viewpoint to the old adage that we used to voice for over a generation, while working in the industry:
“IF IT AIN’T BOEING, I AIN’T GOING, which , after viewing this report, should change to: IF IT’S BOEING, I AIN’T GOIN’!
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled."
Feynman on Challenger disaster, 1986, couldn't be more accurate
1st class Journalism right here!!! The thoroughness of this journalists investigation is very good quality!
Yeah, never mind he knows zip about aircraft.
Designed by engineers built by accountants.
Yeah but what manufactured product isn't dictated by accounting?
Didn't he say they hired burger flippers on dope?
*@Fintin Collins.* Top comment, that deserves *one million thumbs up.*
This is the best lesson ever for the fact that you can never cheat safety ever. It will always find a way.
If it's Boeing I ain't going. Period.
This is also a US government problem, since they cut funding to the FAA to the point that they can't police the manufacturers like Boeing like they used. That means Boeing certifies their own aircraft, like the 787 and 737 Max. On the Max they cut corners to rush it to the market because the Airbus A320 Neo was stealing their customers. And today we see the results.
Airbus makes good aircrafts too. efter these last accidents with 787 and 373 max planes, companies are beginning buy more Airbus planes.
@@jamesscully529 Airbus never stoll Boeing's customers. Because Boeing and Airbus have a duopoly over the aerospace industry, it's simply not profitable for one to steal the others customers. When Airbus came out with the Neo option for there a320s in 2014, they did take some of Boeings marketshare but were very nervous of crossing the 60-65% point. This would've causing Boeing to invest billions of dollars in a completely new aircraft in an attempt to buy customers back. As a result, Airbus would've had to do the same to keep a solid share in the short-medium range market. Airbus wanted Boeing to come out with a Max option that would cost a 1/10 of what designing a new aircraft would cost and keep Boeing from investing billions on a new aircraft so Airbus didn't have to invest billions after invested perhaps a few hundred million on coming up with the Neo option.
Some of their planes are pretty good, and there are a lot of other planes out there which are worse, not that I'm trying to defend what they've been doing more recently. The 777, for example, has a great track record.
🤣🤣🤣
Waw!! All these deep and thoroughly executed interviews with those highest in command performed by Al Jazeera’s journalists are worthy of a Nobel Prize in Journalism.......if there was such a thing...
The 737 Max is the same thing happening all over again. Profits over safety.
The MAX is for profit.
It's the AMERICAN way! Money before everything else!
"Built to sell, not to fly"
I liked this one from one of the workers.
Almighty dollar!
Fly Airbus, see the world
Fly Boeing, see the next one
That is gallow humour.
Yikes.
Dayum
Scary but true
Airbus has just as many safety issues as does Boeing. Lack sleep f Corporate integrity is an international issue and most are worse than Boeing. The French "FAA" is big on coverups on French aviation.
When a company is so anti union it should raise serious concerns!
Agreed...time to sack the unions.
You are really misguided buddy!
@@robertsparks1827 after you sacked them, you got the "corporate" bosses 737 max.
Unions could and should work ! And work with management .
For the common good :-)
I just see them failing the working class while living the high life on workers subscriptions !
Just comes off my pay each month !
How are the regular union meetings attended ?
Not in time of strife ? Weekly, monthly ? 3 times a year ?
With respect , how did it get this far ?
An employer needs an employee , at a certain cost :-)
That is a contract .
Unhappy , do not sign !
Later say not happy . Can leave :-)
No official slavery !
Minimum wage is the buzzword , exploitation is another !
I want you do do that for so much , its negotiation .
I have negotiated and got a bad deal , not often !
Has anyone heard of Unions cutting the wage bill to spare the jobs of their fellow Unionists ?
Watching this "old news" clip puts in perspective what Boing has been doing for years.
Now we have 737 MAXs falling from the sky. Good thing the profits are up!
Bong mentality runs that Corp!
I read 70 per cent of people won't fly the 737 max ,I don't blame them .It's time to fly air bus a better safety record.that what's important ,Boeing has lost sight of that.
I've always looked for air fares based on the best price. Now I look to make sure my flights are not on a Boeing 787 or a 737 Max.
Qatar Airways has actually been going all in on the 787 and relying on it heavily. This exposé did not age well.
Plus, the battery redesign has been proven successful. The only thing that can even touch the 787 is the A350, but they usually don't serve the same routes in my experience.
@@seventh-hydra Age well? It's only six years ago and all it will take is one crash that's attributed to faulty construction to bring a glaring spotlight back on them.
@Aryan Saldanha "The horizontal stabilizer problem is not believed to pose a safety issue, according to Boeing, but it will affect future deliveries."
Yeah, I'm sure. Because I actually read articles instead of just the headlines.
I look if it is Not a Boeing
Aryan Saldanha Is there a way to find out if other airlines get their 787s from the South Carolina plant?
I drop tears at 37:01, when Mr. Wood says:"It shouldn't be this hard to do the right thing"😢
The FAA has a lot to answer for with its policy of self regulation and certification for air-frames. Like the banks self regulating, whose interests do you think comes first?.
of course political contributors.
vote count, but kaching counts more.
I’ve been on a 17 hour flight on a Dreamliner - thank God I didn’t see this video before I did that.
You’re not an embarrassment you’re an honourable, decent human being! So heartbreaking.
My roommate works in the Tesla factory in austin, and him coming from working at the Toyota plant says the level of incompetency is astounding. He loves the job but can't believe how poorly it's managed
Like in Berlin !
Journalism well done. Great job.
Journalism? Not. Fake News. What a joke.
So basically only Boeing employees do drugs? LoL. Those dudes smoking weed did a good job then because the 787 has a pretty good safety record so far.
@@jwilde801
Lol yep creating a bunch of fear for nothing
This engineer v management problem has similarities to the Challenger disaster. I.e. Morton Thiokol knew about the SRB design o ring problem from engineer Roger Boisjoly. He raised the issue with management, but was ignored and overruled.
As soon as you put money before safety, disaster is sure to follow.
Shocking.
Top Notch Quality Journalism
737 Max 9 lost a Door at 10.000 Feet altitude... Wow. I'd take a seat in Airbus only
dont fly then
@@nickolliver3021 Dude literally Airbus and Embraer still exist.
@@Ometecuhtli and so does Boeing