BMX history lesson 1 - Chromoly frame and parts 2 - Freewheel 3 - Plastic lined brake cables 4 - The detangler first the ACS rotor then Odyssey Gyro 5 - Frame standers and pegs
Way to make me feel old lol I actually remember the days before all these parts came out. Bikes have definitely evolved and so has the riding, kids doing insane tricks now 🤯
I have a 20.5 toptube 11inch rise and it feels so good I'm 6ft it spins like a dream stable jumping I stand upright give it a try might change your life
I’m 52yo and just getting back into BMX although I’ve been riding mountain bikes since the early 90’s. For me the game changer was frame sizing. Admittedly I didn’t know it was even a thing to get different top tube lengths. I’d been looking for a while for an “adult sized” thinking I needed larger diameter wheels when the reality was I just needed the 21” top tube.
Agree totally with everything but pivotal seats I hated them so much when I got back into riding come around a little bit now but railed is just so much more comfortable. Thankfully mafia BMX still makes great railed seats
I would go more back in time so my top 5 are: 1) The a-headset system 2) Integrated SB bearings in general 3) Modern tubing techniques with 4130 cro-mo, fluted tubings and also see nr.2 4) micro drive gearing. Number 5 is a hard question. Maybe privotal, because it's so mount and forget, maybe 3 pc cranks, or maybe the freecoaster or the halflink chain.
Here is my list of top 5 innovations that changed BMX. 1) 4130 chromoly steel 2) Tubular forks 3) Redline Flght Cranks 4) Odyssey Gyro 5) Potts Mod hollow stem bolt 6) Axle pegs
3 piece cranck should have been number 1. Even there where created in the early 80's they had their boom in mid to late 90's letting the trick revolution we had back then and keeps going forward. Just imagine jumping big doubles in Excalibur s or any other 1pc crank. Without a question 3pc crancks are "número uno" on my list
#2 should be pegs in general only, from the early really small ones to today's big pegs, and from steel, to aluminum, titanium and now plastic. The amount of new tricks that were and are invented still today, are almost infinite. and #1 is definitely the pott's mod and later the detangler. Absolutely nothing had a bigger impact on BMX Freestyle more than those! Many of the items on this list were improvements over old technologies, but the pegs and detangler were new altogether.
Very well put. These are what came to my mind based on my generation. Overall though, you are correct. Both of those were extremely innovative for their time.
This is definitely a generational video like a Top 5 music list. If we're talking about Top 5 "Parts" that Changed BMX "Forever" then we've got to go back, way back, to the beginning and see what's still in use today because as the great philosopher Prince once said "Forever, that's a mighty long time." So, parts like plastic pegs & plastic pedals, IMHO, shouldn't even be on the list. There were plastic pegs/pedals in the 80s & 90s (the Haro bashguard bikes originally had plastic pegs). Then some suggestions mentioned below as honorable mentions, should actually be top items on the list. So, from a guy who rode 86-90, got back in for a few years in the early 2000s, & has kept up with the industry; here is my top 5 list: 5. 14mm axles - still the standard for rear wheels today; ramp/street pros were breaking axles like crazy, hence 14mm axles 4. 1-1/8th steering tube forks - again still the industry standard & developed because people were breaking forks at the steering tube 3. Threadless headsets & stems - these go hand in hand, quill stems have made a comeback for vintage/nostalgia purposes only. The threadless system was a game changer! 2. Detangler - originally the ACS Rotor until the Odyssey Gyro then SST Oryg became the standard. Now look at how many companies offer a detangler. 1. Potts Mod - this will ALWAYS be the #1 Part that changed BMX Freestyle - that bolt that holds your stem down, but with a hole drilled through it to run a brake cable. Even the threadless compression caps still have a hole in them to run a brake cable. An honorable mention would be Pegs - just pegs themselves, not necessarily "plastic" pegs. BMX went from welded-on/ bolt-on platforms to pegs. Only reason why I make it an honorable mention is because there are plenty of street & vert guys that don't run pegs.
Fly bikes was the first to do the smaller bottom bracket where the bearings pressed directly into the frame with their spanish bottom brackets, at the same time companies like We The People were experimenting with the ever unreliable Euro Euro bottom brackets, and later companies went to the stronger mid bottom brackets which has become today's standard. My top 5 game changers for bmx, 3 piece crankset, gyro, threadless headsets, double wall rims, 14mm axles, this is because most of the tricks today wouldn't have been possible without them
Great info and list. You're correct Fly had the Spanish BB which several companies adopted and many were using Euro as well. If I recall, at one point you could buy some frames in your choice of 3 different BB's. I'm glad we all settled on one. And let's not even get into the Maltese BB thing, haha.
no rotor/gyro...I get it...with a lot more ridiners being brakeless now...they could be seen as a phase..but I still ride brakes...f & r... first rotor I had was the old acs rotor...the one you actually had to grease the stem...zoinks!
Something I have been struggling to understand since the introduction of the mid bottom bracket is why haven't we moved to a bottom bracket that installs like the integrated headset. I feel like this is the next evolution that nobody is thinking about.
Ok the list is pretty good but I guess I don’t see how the pivotal seat is a game changer, personally I’m not a fan. If you land or sit on the seat you get a post to the rectum opposed to the nice comfy hammock of a railed seat. That said, what about, Chromoly Frames, 3 piece cranks, double wall rims, 14mm axles, the gyro brake system…..
All good suggestions. My thought for Pivotal was more to the fact it nearly killed off railed seats in BMX (with some exceptions) and it went on to be adopted by other bike industries. But it all started in BMX - Mike
@@danscompvideos that’s fair. I guess with the title I was thinking of things that revolutionized the sport. You could also add pegs as those changed the way the bike was used and ridden.
i tried plastics pegs few months ago and i find myself not very comfortable because if i grind a concrete ledge the sleeve don’t last much time and now i’m with metal pegs and these last more time but on old ledges they don’t slides to much
It's a trade off for sure. If you grind concrete a lot, even waxed, the advantages of plastic don't outweigh the fact you'll be burning through them quick. On rails and just about everything else, plastic usually lasts a good while if you rotate them.
The inch and an eighth fork and Getting rid of quilled stems altogether, I couldn't believe that didn't make the list or am I the only person that rode a quilled stem back in the day?
The whole threadless headset was a game changer to me, but the list, just should've been longer. Chain ⛓️ tensioners ,detanglers,gussets, wider tires ,I remember going from side-pull to center-pull brakes that was a biggie, there were/are so many innovative and creative minds in BMX that I'm waiting to what's next actually, keep'em coming!
Half link chain are the worst invention .they stretch a lot and wear the sprockets and drivers to early , i dont know why people still buy them , half link chains dont have any other aplication in the industry .
BMX history lesson
1 - Chromoly frame and parts
2 - Freewheel
3 - Plastic lined brake cables
4 - The detangler first the ACS rotor then Odyssey Gyro
5 - Frame standers and pegs
Way to make me feel old lol I actually remember the days before all these parts came out. Bikes have definitely evolved and so has the riding, kids doing insane tricks now 🤯
i think the Gyro is an honorable mention 😬
Very true. The Gyro was genius!
Top of the list! No other invention was as revolutionary!
There been around for a long time
@@swiftxrapid919 true but there wasn't a time frame on this list, was there? It just said changed BMX forever and that definitely did
I rode in the early '90's. I still like small bars and narrow tires. Have never gotten use to the big bars and tires ran now.
Nice! I enjoy the speed of narrow tires, but your lower back with thank you for running bigger bars, haha.
I have a 20.5 toptube 11inch rise and it feels so good I'm 6ft it spins like a dream stable jumping I stand upright give it a try might change your life
As a older rider (late 20’s) I love videos like this to help me reminisce and also teach the youth of the past
Old rider? Lol.
@@CINO0816 no I said older.
@@ehrenburn
Late 20's I guess so
During my time riding, I would say the Potts mod, ACS rotor, pegs, free coaster and 48 spoke wheels.
good old potts mod. i wonder how many of us drilled out our own stems to make it work.
I had my local bike shop drill out the factory SR stem on my 84 Schwinn Predator. @@cyberlizardcouk
Three piece cranks, double wall rims, Spanish BB, and I definitely agree with smaller gearing and the integrated headset.
I’m 52yo and just getting back into BMX although I’ve been riding mountain bikes since the early 90’s. For me the game changer was frame sizing. Admittedly I didn’t know it was even a thing to get different top tube lengths. I’d been looking for a while for an “adult sized” thinking I needed larger diameter wheels when the reality was I just needed the 21” top tube.
Agree totally with everything but pivotal seats I hated them so much when I got back into riding come around a little bit now but railed is just so much more comfortable. Thankfully mafia BMX still makes great railed seats
S&M and Shadow still make some railed seats as well.
I thought that the number 1 pick would’ve been the built in chain tensioner frames are now coming out with
I thought
1. Gyro/detangler
2. 3 piece cranks
3. Double wall rims
4. Taller bars
5. Integrated headset
I would go more back in time so my top 5 are: 1) The a-headset system 2) Integrated SB bearings in general 3) Modern tubing techniques with 4130 cro-mo, fluted tubings and also see nr.2 4) micro drive gearing. Number 5 is a hard question. Maybe privotal, because it's so mount and forget, maybe 3 pc cranks, or maybe the freecoaster or the halflink chain.
Gyro, 990’s, 3 piece cranks, double walled rims.
Here is my list of top 5 innovations that changed BMX.
1) 4130 chromoly steel
2) Tubular forks
3) Redline Flght Cranks
4) Odyssey Gyro
5) Potts Mod hollow stem bolt
6) Axle pegs
Look at the man count! But srsly, cromoly def. Biggest
Kids don't know what it was like when your foot slipped off your pedal and you got nice metal teeth into your shins. Lol
I rode bear claws in the late 90s when I was a kid. Man, my shins were always tore up 😂
3 piece cranck should have been number 1. Even there where created in the early 80's they had their boom in mid to late 90's letting the trick revolution we had back then and keeps going forward. Just imagine jumping big doubles in Excalibur s or any other 1pc crank. Without a question 3pc crancks are "número uno" on my list
Great choice. That was a bit before my riding time, but you're 100% right. 1pc cranks are terrible! - Mike
I was thinking the same thing. OPC's bent way too easily. Some use 2pc cranks now, but 3pc cranks were a huge improvement.
#2 should be pegs in general only, from the early really small ones to today's big pegs, and from steel, to aluminum, titanium and now plastic. The amount of new tricks that were and are invented still today, are almost infinite.
and #1 is definitely the pott's mod and later the detangler. Absolutely nothing had a bigger impact on BMX Freestyle more than those!
Many of the items on this list were improvements over old technologies, but the pegs and detangler were new altogether.
Very well put. These are what came to my mind based on my generation. Overall though, you are correct. Both of those were extremely innovative for their time.
Oh yes, the Potts mod!
On point. These were mine also
left hand drive hubs, idk how long they existed but they are great fro grinding on the right side
Dude awesome video.
This is definitely a generational video like a Top 5 music list. If we're talking about Top 5 "Parts" that Changed BMX "Forever" then we've got to go back, way back, to the beginning and see what's still in use today because as the great philosopher Prince once said "Forever, that's a mighty long time." So, parts like plastic pegs & plastic pedals, IMHO, shouldn't even be on the list. There were plastic pegs/pedals in the 80s & 90s (the Haro bashguard bikes originally had plastic pegs). Then some suggestions mentioned below as honorable mentions, should actually be top items on the list. So, from a guy who rode 86-90, got back in for a few years in the early 2000s, & has kept up with the industry; here is my top 5 list:
5. 14mm axles - still the standard for rear wheels today; ramp/street pros were breaking axles like crazy, hence 14mm axles
4. 1-1/8th steering tube forks - again still the industry standard & developed because people were breaking forks at the steering tube
3. Threadless headsets & stems - these go hand in hand, quill stems have made a comeback for vintage/nostalgia purposes only. The threadless system was a game changer!
2. Detangler - originally the ACS Rotor until the Odyssey Gyro then SST Oryg became the standard. Now look at how many companies offer a detangler.
1. Potts Mod - this will ALWAYS be the #1 Part that changed BMX Freestyle - that bolt that holds your stem down, but with a hole drilled through it to run a brake cable. Even the threadless compression caps still have a hole in them to run a brake cable.
An honorable mention would be Pegs - just pegs themselves, not necessarily "plastic" pegs. BMX went from welded-on/ bolt-on platforms to pegs. Only reason why I make it an honorable mention is because there are plenty of street & vert guys that don't run pegs.
Pitbull brakes, 3 piece cranks. Early 90s!
Robinson, Haro, Elf, Dyno, Mongoose, GT
The good old days
I thought you were gonna say...
the Gyro!
Modern slide-on pegs!
Heck, I remember when PLATFORM PEDALS first came out (the OG Shimano DX)!
Fly bikes was the first to do the smaller bottom bracket where the bearings pressed directly into the frame with their spanish bottom brackets, at the same time companies like We The People were experimenting with the ever unreliable Euro Euro bottom brackets, and later companies went to the stronger mid bottom brackets which has become today's standard.
My top 5 game changers for bmx, 3 piece crankset, gyro, threadless headsets, double wall rims, 14mm axles, this is because most of the tricks today wouldn't have been possible without them
Great info and list. You're correct Fly had the Spanish BB which several companies adopted and many were using Euro as well. If I recall, at one point you could buy some frames in your choice of 3 different BB's. I'm glad we all settled on one. And let's not even get into the Maltese BB thing, haha.
I think female axles, 2 peace cranks, goin to double walled rims, and the drop to 36 hole rims changed the game.
Nailed it with the List.
I would add Tyre width too at 6 or 7
Peace out.
Great suggestion. Wide tires changed the game for sure.
The Potts Mod!!!
I wouldve said sealed hub bearings, internally butted tubing, 1 piece seat/post combos and double wall rims
Good list. Double-wall rims especially.
Totally rims
No body wants to ride free coaster no more everyone is going back to a cassett.
no rotor/gyro...I get it...with a lot more ridiners being brakeless now...they could be seen as a phase..but I still ride brakes...f & r... first rotor I had was the old acs rotor...the one you actually had to grease the stem...zoinks!
Something I have been struggling to understand since the introduction of the mid bottom bracket is why haven't we moved to a bottom bracket that installs like the integrated headset. I feel like this is the next evolution that nobody is thinking about.
1. Gyro
2. Sealed BB
3. 3 piece cranks
4. Sealed hubs and double walled rims
5. Chromoly frames
i watched the video before even looking at the comments, the gyro and the rotor were my first thoughts, oh and Tuff wheels..... yeah, im that old!!
Ok the list is pretty good but I guess I don’t see how the pivotal seat is a game changer, personally I’m not a fan. If you land or sit on the seat you get a post to the rectum opposed to the nice comfy hammock of a railed seat. That said, what about, Chromoly Frames, 3 piece cranks, double wall rims, 14mm axles, the gyro brake system…..
All good suggestions. My thought for Pivotal was more to the fact it nearly killed off railed seats in BMX (with some exceptions) and it went on to be adopted by other bike industries. But it all started in BMX - Mike
@@danscompvideos that’s fair. I guess with the title I was thinking of things that revolutionized the sport. You could also add pegs as those changed the way the bike was used and ridden.
i tried plastics pegs few months ago and i find myself not very comfortable because if i grind a concrete ledge the sleeve don’t last much time and now i’m with metal pegs and these last more time but on old ledges they don’t slides to much
It's a trade off for sure. If you grind concrete a lot, even waxed, the advantages of plastic don't outweigh the fact you'll be burning through them quick. On rails and just about everything else, plastic usually lasts a good while if you rotate them.
Um, Gryo? That was the big thing in the mid 90s and later in Dave Mirra's time. Especially for flatland in that era.
How was the gyro not mentioned at all?
@0.21 My brother had one of those Yamaha Moto Bikes biggest pile of junk ever. The frame broke at the head tube and re-welded 3 times.
Threadless headsets period, one inch threaded headsets were trash. Also, three piece cranks. One piece cranks were garbage.
Too accurate. Theadless was/is garbage, haha.
I was ahead of my time because I rode 25 gear sprocket in 2004.. Too bad I was riding a 14.5 cs..uhhh
sick bike. what pedals are those ?
My bike - the Stolen Thermalite. If you're talking about the black/red bike those were Eclat Surge alloy pedals.
I have a BSD revolution and I will never want to ride another freecoaster ever again.
1 1/8 threadless stems
3 piece cranks is number one imo
No 3pc cranks or stems?
What about Gyro's? I think that should be on the list too
Definitely a big one, too!
The inch and an eighth fork and Getting rid of quilled stems altogether, I couldn't believe that didn't make the list or am I the only person that rode a quilled stem back in the day?
The whole threadless headset was a game changer to me, but the list, just should've been longer. Chain ⛓️ tensioners ,detanglers,gussets, wider tires ,I remember going from side-pull to center-pull brakes that was a biggie, there were/are so many innovative and creative minds in BMX that I'm waiting to what's next actually, keep'em coming!
Tripods are better than pivotal. You don't really need to adjust your seat from time to time right?
Love Tripod personally. That's what's on the bike in the video.
@@danscompvideos yuuuup! Cleaner look too.
48 spline spindle
Absolutely
Integrated seat clamp
Double wall rims
im 53....i think i want to learn how to do those bmx tricks...LOL
Not too late to start! We have some trick how-tos on the channel for that.
I got an honorable mention, carbon wheels! Or female hubs!
44/16 4 life
57 now.
I thought the first gonna be chromoly lol
you should redo the video and focus on parts from the early days of BMX (mainly the 80's to early 90's).
Half link chain are the worst invention .they stretch a lot and wear the sprockets and drivers to early , i dont know why people still buy them , half link chains dont have any other aplication in the industry .
Shadow Interlock Supreme chain doesn't stretch, all the links are forged.