How To Treat A Room For Drums (Cheap & Practical)
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_______________ How To Treat A Room For Drums (Cheap & Practical) --
DISCLAIMER: I am not an expert on this. These are simply practical (and cheap) tips for you to get a better sound in your drum room. If you are looking for a complete sound treatment manual, this is not that.
See a comparison of a treated drum room vs. an untreated drum room here: • Does Studio Foam Work?
This is taken from a live stream I did on the website. It's all about practical ways to sound treat your drum room. This IS NOT a tutorial on building a home studio. This IS a video full of a TON of practical and cheap methods for you to make your drum room sound 100 times better. I give you some free options, some cheap options, some DIY options, and some more expensive options.
Leave a comment below and let me know your thoughts!
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16" EFX Crash on top
16" K Light Top Hat on bottom
18" Kerope Crash
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See a comparison of a treated drum room vs. an untreated drum room here: ua-cam.com/video/m6PMchgv2C4/v-deo.html
DISCLAIMER: I am not an expert on this. These are simply practical (and cheap) tips for you to get a better sound in your drum room. If you are looking for a complete sound treatment manual, this is not that.
This is taken from a live stream I did for the members on my website. It's all about practical ways to sound treat your drum room. This IS NOT a tutorial on building a home studio. This IS a video full of a TON of practical and cheap methods for you to make your drum room sound 100 times better. I have used most of them myself. I give you some free options, some cheap options, some DIY options, and some more expensive options.
Leave a comment below and let me know your thoughts!
Stephen Taylor I have my drums in my basement, and no matter what I do, the drums and cymbals sound awful. It's not that I don't have good sounding equipment. I have a 7 piece Pdp concept maple kit, with some Zildjians A custom cymbals. And I've tuned all of my drums with relatively new drum heads (Evans G2 coated) and still everything sounds harsh, and disgusting. I live in Massachusetts and the weather is constant changing from hot to cold to humid to damp, etc. Could you please, please help me!? I would greatly appreciate it!
Peter Suriner It’s your room bro. Watch this video and do some of what I’m talking about. Do some experimenting with different materials, different furniture layouts, some cheap sound treatment. I think you’ll be surprised at how much better things sound.
Hi Stephen, I'm your fan from Philippines, can you donate me a cheap drumset? I just can't afford to buy even a used drumset, I hope you notice me someday.
@@ralph9446 how much was your phone?
@@Satanicdrummer same here. They sound good but when recording it sounds trash. A lot of unwanted resonance even with dampening. Its the room 100%. Gotta get rid of the annoying echoes somehow.
I've been researching this for months, and this is more information than I ever found altogether. Appreciate you taking the time to share your wisdom, especially the "on-a-budget" tips.
Tilman Sheppard You bet Tilman...glad it helped
How much does the beard help with acoustics?
It’s actually the defining feature of my drum sound.
Beards make everything cooler. Unfortunately mine is all silver so it also makes me look 20 years older.
SMALL TIP for hanging the accoustic tiles.
I ordered card cut outs for record mailers ( normal cardboard will do but you will have to cut to size)
i use the adhesive to attach the cardboard to the tile, then use simple command strips or cheap alternatives to attach the cardboard backed foam tiles to the wall, this way you can re use the tiles over and over without damaging the wall and wasting time picking it off,
NOTE! if you just use command strips on the foam alone, they may eventually fall off depending on the bond as foam has lots of air gaps, spent a couple hours doing it and not only looks good but is future proof and saves your wife/landlord murdering you!
great video though Stephen as always!
That hi hat rod so long lol
FanaticalDrummer that’s...what...she...said?
Agree, it really is unnecessarily long. I love the iron cobra hihat, but that rod has almost put my eye out more than once.
Stephen Taylor Yea the one that came with my cobra stand isnt that tall haha, they do sell the short rod, which is much nicer for more compact set ups
Stephen Taylor just take a sawzall to it
@@StephenTaylorDrums the office😂😂😂
First reaction : 44 fricking mins😓
Last reaction : Best lesson learned 😁
So glad it helped
Thanks. I am currently building my second sound isolation drum room to keep the sound of the drums out of the rest of the house as much as possible. I have a pretty good handle on the construction of the walls, ceiling, and doors to keep the sound from getting out. This video was useful for helping me think about options for treating the sound in the room. BTW, Rockwool is actually made from minerals (mostly basalt, chalk, and blast furnace slag) by melting these compounds and blowing the molten material into a fibrous state similar to the way a cotton candy works.
Kevin Ross Interesting...I didn’t know that about rockwool. Glad it gave you a few ideas!
Just ran across this in UA-cam as I'm about to buy a drum set. Very practical and sensible. Thanks!
If you can mount it appropriately (it’s extremely heavy), 3/4 rubber gym flooring mats with a moving blanket or two in front will chop an absurd amount of db from passing through thin walls. They’re also very cheap and suuuuper dense.
I'm dealing with windows at the moment, what I'm doing is hanging a 33mm sliding door with acoustic foam on the inside and acoustic pin board on the outside. The trick is to over hang the opening by around 50mm on all sides. When the room's not being used for drums, open the doors and let the sun in :)
jammin in an all concrete basement is rough. and loud! 🍻
Hey great vid! One thing iv learned that is really helpful is to play to the room. Especially when recording. If your room is small, your drums will sound big if you play quieter and set your recording levels hotter. Sound is pressure so it reacts to the room size. Im sure you've all tried getting a good drum sound in a room with 8ft ceilings only to hear the play back sound smaller that it sounded when you were playing it. Larger rooms are able to handle sound pressure much better than small rooms because of the longer timing of frequency reflections. Smaller rooms destroy frequencies paths and cause comb filtering which phases out certain frequencies and doubles others. Any sound absorption, especially in the 250 hz and below will help these frequencies loose their energy in a small room, but it won't make your recordings sound bigger, just tighter.
Absolutely...playing to the room is SO important in all situations.
Cool, practical, enjoyable video. Sooo many things were mentioned I hadn't known for such a long time! God bless you Stephen, Loved it, keep it up!
Honza Šimánek So Glad it helped!
For sure it helped! Not only me but also my band. Finally I have a proof that placing guitar/bass amps in corners isn't a bad idea :D
Thanks Stephen . Great tips .very helpful. This will make a good weekend project for me .my drum room needs all the help it can get
Gary Colkett Sure thing Gary!
Really useful - I've just had my garage soundproofed for my son's drums, and the cymbals are riiiinnggggingggg. It's around 4mx4m. So trying to work out what to do. This'll definitely help.
Thanks Steve-o.... This video helped me alot! We just moved into a house and my drum room needs this type of treatment.
You bet STeve
Love the drum room. I'm getting ready to do my basement and I will absolutely factor these things in.
My room is 9 x 9 with electric kit, electric piano and a set of vibes. 4 music stands, 3 ukuleles and a clarinet :) It's tight but its home
This is handy, I'm attempting to undertake sound treatment for a bedroom so I can practice at home without getting the cops called on me for noise every other day haha.
You inspire me to be good at drums
Great video, and this may seem funny. I leave the light on in my room a lot! It is in the basement. I was just telling my wife to get me a clapper. Remember them? My biggest problem right now is the 1/2 stack (guitar). My jam room is 3 walls 2 exterior in the basement. I can muffle my drums. I enclosed them to a very small space. The guitar and bass amps are what ring the house. Are curtains on the open side the best solution?
This is so helpful thank you!!!! My very budget tips:
1. I have 3" construction insulation (painted black) all over the room. Free from work.
2. I was doing work across from a carpet place. I was able to get sections of scrap for free. mostly 2'x10'
3. My basement isn't finished, and I shop online a lot! Other than under the drums (carpet) I have cardboard. Easy to replace if I happen to get water. Warm on your feet, and I think it helps.
4. Pallets/skids-I get them free at work. I have made a wall like you mention out of the pallet planks. Free hardwood stained, glued to the block wall with liquid nail.
My problem is the open side that has to remain open. I will try the furniture you mention.
Thanks. I definitely need sound proofing. Will search your videos!
This is great. I play in our bonus room over our garage. It's not bad but I have been wanting to treat it without having to permanently affix things to the wall.
Great vid!
Sound proofing video would be great. Trying to build up an in home practice/teaching space instead of always going to students houses/other houses for rehearsals...
Any tips for apartments? I have my drums in a corner in my apartment. Any soundproof tips please?
Electric drums lol acoustic ones are too loud for an apartment
Dude, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us! I just recently moved my drums to a self storage space that is metal and concrete. This video was a one-stop shop for all of my questions and concerns. Now I know what needs to happen. :)
Yea, those spaces are tough for sure. Been there before myself. Glad it helped!
The insulation is also called Owens Corning.
Acoustical foam is pretty cheap now, thanks Temu 😂
I work at a uniform company and took a metric f#ck ton of unused/out of date material and stapled layer upon layer on my old closet doors. (we had 3 sets of those double sliding doors, which suck when trying to get to things which is why I took them down.) And I made a door fort around my drum kit and have done many of the DO NOT DO'S ie. Carpets on the walls, blankets on the walls, crappy wood frames wrapped in band uniform material. It's not perfect, definitely ghetto rigged, so far it sounds good but the basement is ever changing in the pursuit for the best basement studio adventure lol thanks for all the help man!
Definitely need to try this out. I will probably use command strips. They are awesome IF you follow the directions. My dad once tore a big hole off the drywall because he just pulled it straight away from the wall. So if you decide to move or clean up, that you and your helpers know how to take those off safely.
I got a heap of those small square ridged acoustic foam pieces and I bought 3 big rectangular plastic sheets and glued the squares to the sheets then used command strips the Velcro ones and stuck them on the wall. I have one square with ridges horizontal then next one vertical etc over the sheet. I'm about to do the same thing for the ceiling above drums
I am currently doing a Garage To Bar Conversion. I thought you guys may want to check out the Step-By-Step images of the Soundproofing Steps Taken. I have quite a few video's showing sound levels before and after acoustic insulation.
Always great vids man! Thank you!
as a sheet metal worker, I have access to acoustic insulation designed for ventilation noise. Im guessing that would probably work really well and cover it with a material after being backed by a hard board. Can anyone let me know how that would work out? Great video, got yourself a subscriber Stephen :)
Beevus17 Yea, if it’s made to control that type of noise, it will work well with this. You may find it doesn’t keep out certain frequencies as well (maybe low end, etc) but I honestly think it would work great. Best way...make a couple of panels and test it out. Glad to have you hanging around the channel!
mass is what deals with low end. Make it super thick and have a 1-2inch air gap between the panel and the wall
@@TikiHorea that's a handy bit of information right there. You sound like you know the science behind this stuff, would you either of you two know of any good sources that covers this stuff in depth?
This is gold, mate🤙 I'm setting up a drum room, and you answered a lot of questions.
I still use wool carper padding . Less than a dollar a sq. Ft. I’m in a small ish room and I wrap around the back of my set
And drinks in all kinds of overtones. Cheep and works great 👍
So my problem is too much sound going to my upper floors since I’m in the basement, any ideas other than the baffle?
Love the color of that kit
Wondering how those Rubber matts would work, they interlock like puzzle pieces, they're solid Rubber not foam, i think originally for quickly putting down on a garage floor
Just looking to no pics off my neighbors, currently hang old shag carpeting
Duck cloth is another good material as an alternative to denim.
Thanks for the good ideas.
Excellent video. Thanks man!
You bet!
Well presented mate good game
Cheap and easy bass traps: Home Depot sells Roxul Safe and Sound in a 4ft x 2ft square package for $45. Wrap it in black fleece from Walmart for $8. Stand it in the corner. DONE!
How about for sound proofing the floor ...?
And does Roxul work good if it isn't installed behind a wall?
Would these treatment methods be effective for a vocal room/booth as well? Great video!
Very instructive video! Thanks a lot
You bet
Awesome video brother! I use flags on the ceiling and walls that really break up the sound bounce. I'll try the corner foam just to see what happens as that area is untreated.
Thanks for the new direction of thinking. You rock!
You bet Ross
Good video, but rockwool is not fiberglass. "Rockwool, a lightweight hydroponic substrate is made from spinning molten basaltic rock into fine fibers"
Great stuff, thank you!
Pretty helpful Stephen. Thanks!
Glad it helped Fernando
In-case anyone is interested in cheap-ish acoustic foam. Buy on Ebay, you can find $1 sq ft. Not cheap but more affordable than guitarcenter as an example that is more like $3-5 sq ft
FoamByMail.com too
Stupid question! Does leaving your extra snare drums in drum room make things worse or no? I’m keeping snare wires off all extra snares, thanks
this has helped me A LOT
Pris Mayerstein makes my day to hear it
the best way to get this acoustic foam on the wall is by using acrylic joint sealer. i've put 52 square feet of acoustic foam on the wall like this. Its safe AND u dont got any damage, neither on the walls or on the foam :)
I’m working in a basement with a space that’s 12/15 with a 6 and a 1/2 foot ceiling. Floor and wall are concrete. How can I treat the walls without framing them ? Also, with such a low open ceiling what can I use to treat that ?
Chris sandbach me too man on top of that I wonder if mold can get inside of drums because the basement is moldy
I loved this video! It was awesome that you added a poor mans option, and used terms like "weird noises". Really easy to understand (even from someone who knows exactly what those "weird noises" are, just makes it easier for everyone
Thanks for another great video, Stephen. Greetings from over the big pond outa Europe.... :-)
Avaloctus You bet!
my drums have huge echos like ever part has an echo and i just hate it have any of ya'll gone through this and do you know how to fix it?
I'm practicing in a big room and there is a 3 by 4 meter wall I can't cover at all because we use the wall to watch movies with a projector. I can't spend any money on sound treatment because I've already spent too much money on gear for drum recording (which sounds horrible because of the room) and my parents don't want any "ugly" foam hanging on the walls.
Aaaaaah!!! I don't know what to do 😭😭
Tony hang a carpet/thick blanket on the wall with nails so that you can take it down after you record and the put it back up
@@CJCDrumming that's a good idea, I'll think about it. Thanks, bro🤘🏼
I have a small room is that better
@@Pro1938ftc3ch yup definetly
Hi @Stephen Taylor, I don’t know if you mentioned it or I missed it, but can you explain why you didn’t treat the wall behind your kit? I’m setting my room up and want to figure out the best way to set up the panels I have.
What about sound proofing a garage? what to do with a garage door if you dont wan to tear teh door down and replace with a wall? Could you use those professional sound blankets would that work? any suggestions
Yea, hanging something in front of it is going to help for sure. But...in the end...it's still a garage with a metal door. I would try hanging blankets first
@@StephenTaylorDrums thank you Stephen!
Can't attach anything to walls or ceiling. (Well I "could" bit I'm not willing to eat the $300 deposit.) So now I'm just looking at creatively suspending moving blankets and such to try and kill the majority of echo. The clap test revealed that the floor toms and cymbals (yes even the CYMBALS) are reverberating at an absurd level. From 8 feet away. Lol.
Im in my 100% concrete empty basmement and my drums sound like absolutely fucking horrible. Definitely gonna try some of this
Great vid! Is it possible you can give me a ballpark estimate for how much this cost you in total?
Regarding the window issue, would cutting a bed mattress to the size of the window space with a piece of board over it work ?
Cheers Wayne
Sure
Great video! Thanks! You talked about making your own sound traps with black fabric. How would black speaker cloth compare? Worth the extra? (aesthetics in mind here as well)
Yea...if I did it over I would spend a touch more and either get speaker fabric or go to the sowing section and get a higher quality cloth.
So my only option until I build my house and music room . I’m going to build a shed big enough to set up in and I want it sound proof so my neighbors don’t hear me , I just want a spot to practice . Any recommendations on trying to creat a sound proof shed for now ? I don’t necessarily need to worry about studio like I just want the sound to slow down and not get out all that much to practice. Let me know if you have an idea please
What kind of inears do you use
Alclair
Hey Stephen I am in a brick room so I can't push pins glue or use those strip things what can I do ( I have the foam thing , the small ones
Have read a lot about moving blankets on the walls. Any thoughts on that? Looking to sound treat a room that’s about 8-10’ by 12-14’ so my roommates don’t lose their minds. I already have foam tape for the entry door, plenty of moving blankets, and 24 12”x12” foam acoustic pads and heavy blackout/noice canceling curtains for the two small windows. Any thoughts/tips?
Amazon has a 50 pack of 12X12 for 45 bucks
21:00 You have some name of suitable foam for this? How would EPE Foam work? or roll of soft home insulation?
The real title of the video should be "how to get your own practice room" :)
TxRED Lol
My problrm is the home construction. I have paper-thin walls and in order to make the room sound resistant even would cost a minimum of $500
How well does a corkboard work for sound treatment?
I've never experimented with any tbh
Actually it's not the drums that sound bad, it's the drumMER!
I pull the skin of my doors and fill it with plaster board, then get some adhesive door sealing rubber on the frame and seal it air tight
paul mort I’m guessing this is more for sound proofing than actually improving the sound inside the room?
Stephen Taylor .yes although I also use 2400x1200 sheets with 2x1 border, lay rock wool in it, use chicken wire to keep it flat and stretch shade cloth over it for acoustics, spray paint it for affect.
What about using ceiling tiles? I see them all the time on Craigslist for free when people remove their drop ceilings. I was thinking I could get a bunch of those, stack them up so I have about 2"-4" of material and hang them on my walls and ceiling. Thoughts?
I was thinking they'd at least add some mass to my walls and I could stagger the thickness to break up my parallel reflections.
Doesn't hurt to try them
Will egg trays work,,, the cardboard ones
No. You can buy plastic ones from shipping supply catalogues for fairly cheap though. Far cheaper than any wooden diffuser.
I wanted to add to my comment because you were explaining how to make the one panel. I think that was great, but I'm a 25 contractor by trade. I love your idea, but would be glad to tell you and you followers much cheaper ways to get these materials, and even better for less money. Part of my trade (a small part) is sound systems for events. I am the structure guy, but am around the other trades. I'm the guy that erects the steel. I've worked on Trump tower Chicago, and Google Chicago to name two.
Let me know and I'll make a list. Making these things isn't my problem. My problem is where to put things, and space I can use. In my previous comment I have a 3 sided room. Putting up a wall would be easy, but this will have a negative effect on the basement lighting. I need tips from you, or any follower on a movable sound wall.
Sure, list them out here for everyone to see. Would love that
@@StephenTaylorDrums 1. Mineral wool insulation is very cheap. $20 would get you more than yo need for a room. You know this but hear me out as I go.
2. Used painting or picture frames. Thrift store, flee makes. Under $5 each, so you have a frame, and just need to cut the insulation to fit. If you can get old painting you have some canvas now you can paint how ever. Most old painting will have the canvas stretched, so you will have an extra 2" around. this will give the space for the insulation.
3. I use, used skids/pallets for a lot of things! They are free/cheap, and are normally hardwood. You really wood pay a lot for this same wood, that will probably get painted black. Skids are also nice to cut up, stain, and stager dimensionally on the wall like you recommend.
4. I have skids under the cabinets (1/2 stacks, etc) with insulation in the middle lose. They are covered with carpet for looks, but real help with sound on the deck (floor).
5. Pallets/skids can be used for a 100 uses! You have a 40"x48" installable box w/a 3" opening for insulation. Cheap, movable panels. Easy for a young guy with very few tools.
6. If anyone is in the Chicago area and you want to pass me on I'll help. I'm getting old, so you gotta' help the new guys.
Explaining on here is hard. I'll have to try and get a video or some pics to you. I have some better stuff for a garage. I just want to help out my jamming buddies. As of now it is 8:30pm on Sun. I don't want to piss off neighbors, but we finished dinner, and the wife is watching some X-mas musical. A few beers, and jamming sound fun to me. I don't want to bother her or the neighbors, but I have it contained enough. I could be better I'm sure, but our point is the cheap!
I just wanted to be #200 ... whoopee!
All seriousness, been researching for the last couple days to deaden the sound from my drums and cymbals. Being mine are set-up in the basement (drop ceiling, carpeted floors, 1/2 the wall leading up is angled cedar wood then drywall, Couch & love seat) my ears still "rang" after playing. In my research it lead me to multiple $$$$ to try and fix this annoyance. But it all led up to recording studio set-ups and understanding a lot of angles/deflections, diffusing and so-on. Which I didn't exactly want, just wanted to have something where I can play acoustics and also play along with the stereo/mixing equipment where my ears wouldn't ring after playing.
Been using in-ears which helped when using e-drums but wanted to get back to my old friend (acoustic). Thought... hmm where can I get my answer from on how to accomplish this without all the $$$$$$? Then it hit me, go to the same source where I've learned from in the past, other drummers - instead of sound engineers. After all they've went through the trial and errors. Stopped at those that I've watched in the past. Coop3r was way out of my league $$. Came here and viola the help I need to get started. Thanks
Hi Stephen. I noticed that you have Mac too. I use it for sheet music, click and for bounch of other things. Do you have any recommendations for certain programs? For example, I'm currently using Pro Metronome in my phone and I'm looking for same kind of program for laptop. For now I'm using QuickNome on laptop and that's not great...
Yesss
i have a whole mattress leaning against the wall for soundproofing 😀
me too, i barely use that room anymore..so the mattress goes against the wall
i know this is an old video but i was wondering how i could make that cheap poor mans panel you were talking about with the mattress topper and poster-board ? I am turning one of my garages into a drum room and wanna reduce some of the frequencies and reverbs.
Mike Anthony sure. Just cut down the mattress topper to the size of the poster board, glue it, and then cover it with some fabric to make it look better. Glue or staple the fabric on the back of the board. As to how well it will treat the room? I’m not sure, but it will be better than nothing for sure.
When I do the listening and clap thing people (my wife mainly) think I'm nuts.
Towels work way better than diy foam panels. Stack 5 to 10 towels in a wooden frame and hang it wherever you are some wierd flutter sounds, problem solved. Doesn't do much for low end though
dylan robins yea, still have the low end issue with a fix like that. But I agree...towels are a great tool.
Felt, cheap, thick, and comes in a variety of colors....
Jonny Ive, hi
great video! thank you! i was thinking of having my students paint books and glue them to the wall. bc of the different sizes and thicknesses i thought it would help treat the room- AND add some color, and let the students feel like they're part of the space. i've heard of people using books for sound treating but not the way i am thinking about it. with your experience do you think it's a good idea? seems logical to me based on the stuff i've researched. but since i haven't seen or heard of someone doing it it makes me worry that it's not really a good idea. someone has had to have done it. PLEASE LMK what you think. thank you!
: )
How did that idea work lol
Be careful using Acetone based adhesives with foams. Tends to dissolve the foam.
Yeah, what's wrong with a staple gun? Small holes and easy to fill with caulk if you move out or have to repaint. The perfect crime.
Wife says you can have the room ? That’s really bad for your drumming 😂🤣🙈🤘
command strips are crap on foam
I paid two grand for my setup
I hang mine with a stapler.
$50 for a bass trap is an ineffective bass trap.. Take a look at aurelex to see a proper density foam. Realistically around $200 for a few treatment pieces. Wool insulation is your best option to make traps on a budget that's actually effective.
strewth! get a Roland V-Drum kit & headphones...set up your cool vintage kit in front of you for eye candy ..problem solved....but then that doesnt make a posey , cool youtube vid does it ?
peace ! drum brother...i was only being mischievous...keith moon DNA and all that.....:0) i always buy thick velvet curtains from salvation army shops etc , if goin cheap ...
Waahh!!! too late, I used the spray glue.......
Niki Stokes Well...then it’s done lol. Tip for ya...if you ever remove it from the walls, hire someone to skim coat and resurface that drywall. It’ll cost a couple hundred dollars but will save you LOADS of time and heartache.
ain't no way I'm gonna be asking my wife for permission for space to set up my drums in a home we both paid for, it's my home too, so I'm gone put my drums where i want, smh, u ain't got no balls bro
In my experience, bulldozing my wife in this way has never worked. At least not to my advantage. A marriage is give and take. It takes balls to put your wife’s needs above your own. It takes balls to not be self-centered. It takes a lot more balls to have an open and honest discussion with your wife about her preferences, feelings, and desires for the house you bought together than it does to bulldoze her and treat her like she’s a secondary citizen in her own home. In my experience, if you treat her in this way, she treats you in the same way. And a decision is made that both are happy with and that’s based upon both people’s interests.
The thing in life that takes zero balls to do is treat a person as if they’re beneath you. That is the easiest thing in the world to do.
@@StephenTaylorDrums I respect that
I think what Steven was trying to say is that one shouldn't be subservient in a relationship. Too many guys are following the "yes, dear" methodology of relationship conflict management. You might say it takes balls to recognize your own needs in a relationship and stand up for them instead of just bowing to the needs of the other. This is a problem for both girls and guys. Relationships need to be a partnership, and that only works if both people are cooperative and communicative. If you swing too hard in either direction, either being too assertive or too submissive, then someone's needs are always going to be swept under the rug. It takes emotional intelligence and a lot of patience to have a balanced relationship.
45 minute long clip???
This was taken from a live stream I did for the members on my website. I answer questions etc. So they tend to be longer.