Is a Tennis Ball Riser REALLY the SECRET to Quiet Drumming?
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The famous TENNIS BALL RISER. Does it actually work? Is it the real secret to playing drums in an apartment? This DIY build is a go-to solution for apartment drummers or anyone needing to soundproof their kit. But it seems like nobody’s really telling us how well these things work. We assume that they’re doing some good and that our money and efforts aren’t going to waste… but who really wants to go to the effort to build one of these if we don’t ABSOLUTELY KNOW that it does work? Today we’ll both find that out. I was curious, so I built one. I also tested it from the floor below so that we can all know whether this endeavor is worth the sweat we have to put into it. Because I live in an apartment, I don’t own a truck, and I don’t have access to power tools, this is also the NO-TOOLS version of how to build a tennis ball riser (with the exception of a drill). So sit back, relax, and enjoy this alternate tennis-ball-riser-building-process, and let’s find out whether these things actually do any good.
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id rather have an upstairs neighbor who makes a tiny bit of sound from drums than my current neighbors who get drunk, scream, and sound like theyre recreating wwe every night.
Lol. The WWE part was brilliant :D
😂😂😂
Deeply sorry hearibg about that, here in my country i have the same issue, and worse, everybody listen to garbage music, regueton, and they have to listen to it so loud!.
Sorry bro, didn't know you hear us fuckin', we'll try to keep it down...
🤣🤣
Man, if my upstairs neighbour played the drums I would...
...take my guitar up and jam.
Fraser McFadyen oh hell yeah dude !!
That's funny!! Classic and I'm stealing it! Tuvm!
@@TheDjike22 same but i would take my drums
Edit before you ask how ill figure it out lol
@@DJG44 No but strangely enough I'm a signed artist as well but he copyrighted Isaac Romero first so i just go by JOE ROMERO as an artist Isaac Romero as a person. Yet at first I thought it would be crappy but it's actually awesome and it's very common in the business. It's a separator of who knows you and who thinks they know you but it's a old/new friend thing. But when you get signed as I was told " your gonna lose some friends and family mostly out of monetary and jealousy yet I still can't figure the believability part. I'm Still recording and lots of people even the fruends and family who know I've been playing for 30 years don't get it and this thing you are mentioning with the other Isaac makes it worse. But he's cool I like his songs he has more than a few. We've messaged privately and I'm sure he's happy that I don't go out there and make a race or change the name slightly. If anything we could get slight benefits off this! I'm signed to a slightly higher end record company but I'm seeing that If your material is giid you end up with several company's getting a cut but I'm gonna hold off and release my public face book etc shit out briefly before I release. I have 2 albulms in the can went on another tour with other bands and I got a tour or 7 under the belt but it's nice to see it all happen before you go on your tour! My placement is very meticulous and thought out. He definitely has more freedom but I opted to own my music whole. Gotta take the reels with you. If you sell yourself right away there's nothing left. You can always sell yourself later. His economic situation isn't my business but I think he's got the label but not his music at least that's my impression. We are on different spectrums but I think he does more than guitar where I'm more nine inch nails where I try to play everything on the albulm I can and hire out since my singing sucks where he's a much better singer. I'm not a great singer! I'm a player forsure and I'd love to jam with him and he's also much younger but his shit is giid and I'm all for him kicking much ass and he's got talent forsure. Chances are neither of us make it but we both got the skills. It's up to chance and the people! I know so many great players that just didn't pan out. My company is headed by a huge artist and he's huge for me. Having gone through it he's very protective and cool about things. It's always "take your time it ain't a race we are quality not sales we tour and play! No back tracks and kick ass 120% all day and twice on your bday and Sunday. Rest on the plane and stay clean, drink water, hire a good agent and yo mama better handle yo money cause if she don't kniw how they will steal it!" So I'm happy I already got what I wamted. Yet they say your luck changes the first signing to bad and I've had lots of wired things go on and I've seen some weird shit but I got in the big leagues and im getting time and kicking ass! But I wanna hear my shit! It's hard playing everyone else's now. But that's to he expected! I'm just looking and thinking and learning from the best! But at this point I don't want fame. After seeing what it gets you it's not right! I'm not a money person at all and I don't want nor ever respected or ever wanted power. It's a snake that bites back and I need my freedom. So in the end maybe I should go bucket head on the people? He's actually like that and keeps that bucket on and has good friends where they've all kept his real name out of main media. Bucket can play! he's a player in not as shedding anymore like bucket I'm really playing with all sounds and like I said there's one band I emulate as much as possible with my own tone and that's Trent fucking reznor! Dudes right, tight and right! I'm a great engineer and was a studio player enough to know I can release and not have to worry about rent. Make enough for a nice spot and use my engineering to pay the rent! Sorry I got you with a novel just gabby today. But I'm out and in route. Take care of you and take it easy cause if its easy~TAKE IT TWICE!
@@TheDjike22 bet you didn't think I'd read it all 😂 i didn't understand most of it but thats deep and probably a good message.
Edit: Can you summirize it for me i would like to fully understnd if the bucket guy is marshmello and every thing it was really confusing
drummers are cursed of some how always having that super hearing neighbour
My 2 neighbors around me are drummers ... But I'm in a house
Lol back 6 or 7 years ago I had a drummer for a neighbor who decided to invite his bandmates into his shitty shed in his backyard and try to play Slipknot songs...and they failed. They didn't worry about the noise either these out of tone deaf Mofos was right outside my bedroom window (I was in the house next door) about 100 feet away sometimes as late as 10pm at night pulling that crap.
LOL .... I Swear I had a neighbor once that complained to me for putting new skins on my acoustic kit and tuning them. My wife wanted to hit him with a cast iron skillet.
If you can't control your volume when playing drums, you suck.
Beloved One but it matter what dynamic you want for the song and sometimes you just want to jam so you're loud
Dude if you already have a drill you can cut holes large enough for tennis balls you just need a holesaw bit it would literally be PERFECT I cannot believe no one has mentioned this yet
I followed this tutorial and built my drum riser and it REALLY makes a difference. I can play all day and my downstairs neighbour thinks I’m just listening to regular music. Totally worth the investment! Thanks Stephen for the video!!!
Unfortunately my neighbor downstairs is 77 yrs old and can hear the thumping despite my carpet...and electronic kit 😔😔. I'm struggling to minimize the thumping from the base kick drum
i built a tennis ball riser and it works 100%....no complaints from downstairs at all....brilliant, and well worth doing..
I have seen a riser made using the pool noodles, instead of tennis balls. They had them laying horizontally b/w the pieces of wood and then wrapped the whole thing in foam and added a top layer of carpet. According to them, it actually dampens better than the tennis balls.
I built one of these today following your video with the noodles and all. Mine is 34" x 24" with 1/2" plywood, for an electric drum. The pedals resonated in the floor which my downstairs neighbors most likely heard really well. Pads resonated a bit too, but pedals were the main issue. Quite easy to build, took about an hour. Placed a mic on the floor recorded the kick with and without the platform. With the platform, I got around 6 dB less in the 60Hz and less range, 8 dB less around 140 Hz stomping on the kick. Thanks for the detailed video
Finally someone recording the actual result from downstairs! Thnak you very much!
The day better insulation is built in all houses, we will have way better drummers.
Amen brother, amen
It is sweet that your lovely wife supports your hobby.
She is lovely, indeed :)
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Canadian MGTOW what the hell are you on about
HOBBY, Yaboroqe called it a HOBBY....Drums are LIFE brother!!Excellent video, I might attempt making a riser myself, thank you. Subscribed! And yes she is quite lovely.
She tolerates a guy who uses living in an apartment as an excuse for not having a proper tool kit, so it's a safe bet she'll put up with anything.
Thanks Stephan! Another complete and concise video, tackling a project nobody wants to actually go through in case it “doesn’t work”. Clever and successful- congrats on a great presentation with practical and measurable results. Keep going!
Thanks, Stephen, for the hard work to present this very informative exposition.
I don't even play drums. Why am I watching this?
Same here, I’m just a nerd 🤓
Because everyone loves a good tennis ball riser!
Andres Gonzalez ikr, im a guitar and trombone player, this has no meaning to me
Exzavior Williams I am also a guitar player and yet here we are haha. UA-cam never ceases to amaze.
Because you want to play drums
thanks for sharing. Nice touch showing the frequency levels to show it works
thanks for sharing this! I've always wondered the same question for many years
Me too, so I just had to build one. :) Thanks for watching!
If he had a drill why didn’t he buy a circular bit for the drill to cut holes for the tennis ballsack
This is excellent! I stopped playing drums a few years ago bc I moved into an apartment where it was too loud to play. This makes me want to get back into drumming, thank you so much!
Thanks Dude! You answered all of my questions and I'm going to build this, this weekend! Thanks so much for putting this together
I don't even drum and this was fascinating.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great job!!! Not just claiming this will reduce Noise, you meassure it up. Thank you for sharing this!
Thanks for being so real, man! Great video again!
Your setup is genius. My hats off to you. I've built recording studios and came up with some clever ideas for sound proofing on a budget. Your tennis ball idea is great.
Thank you so much for posting this. I got to say, I was very impressed with the amount of detail that you went into, how informative you were, and not to mention the difference between using the Riser and not using the Riser. I am absolutely going to build a riser, well, my husband is. LOL. But this is going into effect like now!
I'm in an apartment in a high-rise, my strategy for practicing was to get an electronic set and place the thing on a high-density rubber anti-vibration pad, designed for washing machines and appliances. The floor is concrete, there's wall-to-wall carpeting, then the rubber mat, then another rug (just because the mat's kind of ugly). My neighbors below me say they don't hear anything. On the other hand I have to get out at least once a week to a rehearsal studio to play some acoustic drums or else I'll lose my feel for the real thing.
Great video bro! Thanks for making this.
I'm not even a drummer. I didn't realize this video would be specific to that when I clicked on it. And yet, I watched the whole thing and really enjoyed it. Love a good DIY video. Nice job!
THANK YOU!! finally somebody that actually test the setup!!! :)
i love the diy ingenuity of this. Being a musician living in apartments in frustrating and when you don't have a bunch of money you have to get creative! I play guitar and have resorted to placing my amp in a large roadcase I scored used and running a mic threw it. Haven't had an angry neighbor pounding on my door yet.
Nice job! I’m going to do this. Thanks for figuring this out.
Excited to get this built this weekend!
Hey Stephen, this is a very informational video! Thank you for sharing!
I'm sure someone else has said this by now. Since you used the drill, another option at that point would have been to get a whole saw and make the wholes for the tennis balls.
Great project though. Your narration of the process is awesome.
How practical! Thank you for sharing this! By the way, your drumming is really super!
This has been very helpful. I live in a 1970’s townhouse which was build from concrete. I have had to come up with various ways to reduce the “noise” because the noise actually travels one house further than my neighbours. I have already built a riser but the dear old lady still hears the noise. So... I changed a few other things and now I will put a rubber mat under the bass drum.
To access the info faster, I sped up the video but otherwise your presentation really worked for me :) I found it super useful, thanks!
Thanks for sharing. Just getting back into drumming with an e-kit. I'll be set up upstairs over a main living room that gets a lot of daily use so this should help quite a bit for my family.
Very cool. Thanks for sharing, Stephen!
This was a great demo.. You presented it very well.. I may have to try this at some point.. Thank you Stephen :)
Thank you! I appreciate that. There are so many variations of this kind of project you can find all over the internet, too. If you end up building something, let me know!
Thanks for the video! Very cool! I would have liked to see you compare the tennis ball riser to the foam pads as well.
I'm not a drummer, but found this video super informative and interesting. Great work.
Love it!!! Will use this definitely!
thanks man... was looking for some data on this.. glad to see it works... some holes for cymbal stands and raising my stool should save some precious space.. s
you're a great guy, keep on helping us drummers, we make an awesome bunch
I built mine using 2 pieces of plywood containing tennis balls with the holes drilled thro, with noodles on the floor and kneeling mats (cut into 3's).
This rests on a carpeted floor, in the top room.
Finished it off with rubber foam playmats and a piece of carpet on top. Works for me...
Love, 40!
truly amazing. many neighbors thank you.
Thanks for the video you've earned a sub! I'm trying to get back into making UA-cam videos and living in an apartment has discouraged me past couple years. Your video is a life saver!
Thanks for sharing mate!!!
I live in a townhouse and my wife's office is directly under my studio. I built a tennis ball riser wrapped in carpet and placed on 1" foam pads. The bedroom itself also had carpet. She can still hear it of course, but its doesn't sound like the ceiling is going to fall on her. I did this 15 years ago.
I don't even play drums but this was very interesting to watch, thanks for sharing!
Bravo, Meredith!
Great video, I'm so glad I found this and I subscribed. This is really good info, and everything you did was awesome!
If I may add, for those thinking of building something like this; it is the holes cut for the tennis balls that gives the stability that is required for playing drums. The holes are a precise size so the wood grabs each ball and locks them into place. It is kinda like making a flat spot on the balls so they won't roll. In Mr Clark's design, the foam donuts are not weight bearing, as they would need to be, considering the total load and motion it will be supporting.
I feel cutting the holes is an intrinsic part of the design and can not be disregarded. The interlocking of smaller boards was a great idea, as long as they don't move or don't touch.
It could be done with large super balls, but they would need to be cut in half and glued. In the end; setting up a drum set on top of 47 balls smashed between two layers of wood sounds sketchy at best. The holes take away the ball's ability to roll, where as the foam donuts don't.
But great job to say the least. And Mr Clark, you sir are an excellent drummer.
Cheers
You are a good neighbor dude !!!! Nice job
Thank you so much for this!
Great job man. This is an incredibly well done video. Not only does it give me the answer, but I love your detail in the process without going into so deeply that you have to scrub through to find the good stuff. Also, holy shit this thing works really well.
Nicely done... Great video.
Cool project ,THANX a lot for the video !!!!
Fantastic. Thanks for the in depth video.
Thanks man I’ve been wanting to get a electric drum set I was thinking it will still be loud downstairs I’m defiantly getting my set now thanks!
great! appreciate your explanation
I’m really enjoying your videos! Keep it up!
Very cool! Am not a drummer but I found this video fascinating! Great work 👍👍
Made two tennis ball isolators for two subwoofers. I did use a hole saw and glued the balls into the holes. They don't "couple" with the floor as well but much less sound bleeding through the floor.
7:03 "There's no bowing of the wood" - immediately after shows a clip stading on a board that is bowing like crazy.
Very cool. Thx for sharing
Super cool video! Thanks for sharing!!!
Great vid very informative
Just found and subscribed. Good Content!
wow that made a big difference! very cool
Great project!
Realistically I needed this riser idea in like 2008. Might have saved me from having to move even though I was already playing an electronic kit in my apartment.
VERY inventive idea...love it!
Finally made one since we are all stuck inside (still working thou) AND IT WORKS GREAT! Neighbors have a baby and have yet to complain!
Thanks man, subbed.
Daaamn! Thanks for the idea!
Hey great vid. I recently used your cajon kit idea I sent you a pic of it on Instagram it works amazing thanks so much
Six years late, but as someone who's looking to one day own two metal dance pads, this video looks like it'll come in really handy! ❤❤❤
Thank you ! 👍🏻
Thank you for this awesome idea. I was able to build one and it really does capture a ton vibrations while playing and so far no complaints from the landlord and neighbors. Costco has a great deal on bulk tennis balls and I was able to get the mdf fairly cheap and cut for free at Home Depot. Bought the hole 1-3/4 hole saw bit and some zips. Also I picked up the jigsaw floor tiles of amazon for a decent price as well. Overall, I think I spent ~ $150 for 8 tennis ball 2x2 panels. Definitely a fun project.
This is great! Thanks!
Sweet video, good insight, thanks!
Thanks for posting a video with your findings. Just bought an E-Kit and I'm trying to find a way to keep the floor pedal thumping to a minimum. Thinking of doing your platform method but just for the floor pedal. 👍
Great video, Stephen. BTW, most tennis pro shops have a huge bin where people toss balls that they feel have lost their bounce. These are great for beginners who just want to learn how to hit. You could get some from there for free. As a matter of fact, I'm thinking about doing that (inspired by your video), cutting them and half, and sound proofing a walk-in closet (for voice or sax).
Awesome. Nothing I require but very informative.
excellent and helpful video
Superb - thank you! I was about to cut my tennis balls in half before I watched this!. I'm making one this weekend and this video has really helped. Subscribed, LIked and Notified.
Thank you. I am seriously considering the tennis ball riser because of your video. I play an electric piano at my apartment while wearing headphones and my neighbor from time to time bangs on the wall whenever I practice. I'm guessing because whenever I release the keys the energy from the springs connected to the keys still gets transferred into the floor and the walls.
nice solution for solving ours drummers problems👍🏻 ,i use a carpet under the floor ..2times.. works fore me.
Awesome tutorial
Since you are using a drill, you can use that same drill with a hole saw bit to make holes for the tennis balls to cradle even more into. Only make the holes as large as the hole in the pool noodle, and that should help reduce some (but not all) of the lateral instability.
Cool video. To reduce cost consider buying a full sheet of material and have the yard/store cut to your spec. Also, use used tennis balls from your local tennis club.
great stuff!!
great video man.
Just built one today. Works 100%. Couldn’t be more thankful. Live in an old mill building too. Everything echoes and creaks. Roommates couldn’t feel or hear a thing
sick groove!
Great thing, an eye opener, thanks. Just a quick tip, though. In order to quantify the exact difference between having and not having this thing, use sound level meter, you can download it as an app. Then you will see how many dB dropped after installation of tennis balls
Cheers for the video and ideas! They are great! Im curious, if it's possible to achieve the same effect by using only wooden pallets?
I'm lucky enough where I can play most times of the day on a normal unmuffled kit, but this is wonderful to know for the future if I move and cool vid!
Apparently every one of this mans neighbours have gathered into the comment section lol
great work!