Sai Tricks Tutorial - Thumb Spin (with added combinations)

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  • @ivangardiol4436
    @ivangardiol4436 3 роки тому +3

    You are very good using the Sai. Great teaching!!

  • @supersaiyanzero386
    @supersaiyanzero386 3 роки тому +3

    You were the first one to show me, I'm back after a few years!

  • @CarterWeyrauch
    @CarterWeyrauch 4 роки тому +1

    Yo!!! Thanks for creating some thorough, well explained tutorials for these

  • @ADulare007
    @ADulare007 6 років тому +13

    great tutorial remember this video was made without a cost to you free of charge. Remember with weapons there is the freestyle form and self defence forms. They both compliment each other. freestyle moves are designed to confuse the enemy change direction so you can apply it to self defence not to traps weapons or strike but to confuse your opponent. so they cannot read the attack. Also they are beautiful techniques of body and motion making it an art form.

  • @tabitharosato1156
    @tabitharosato1156 10 років тому +3

    Omg too cool, I never see too many cool sais tricks on you tube, and I'm a huge weapons fan so I learn a lot of things from UA-cam. I would really love some more videos posted of some inventive unique tricks to do with the sais!!!! They're one of my favorite weapons! :) thanks for the video

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  10 років тому

      Hey Sam :) I'll be making some more tutorials for the Sai this Winter while traveling in Asia :) be on the look out and remember to Subscribe. Thanks!!

    • @tabitharosato1156
      @tabitharosato1156 10 років тому +2

      Yaaay thanks so much! Have fun in Asia and I deff already subscribed! :D

  • @vagrantapartmentink1481
    @vagrantapartmentink1481 8 місяців тому +1

    I just had a custom set of fire sai built for me for fire performance I was looking for some flair and this is really great as a tutorial thank you

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  7 місяців тому

      I'm glad this video provided some techniques to add to your fire sai!

  • @amberzartman2003
    @amberzartman2003 4 роки тому

    I am intermediate with sais. They are my favorite. thanks for the tips!!

  • @cleanvuoksa
    @cleanvuoksa 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you very much. This is fresh breathe for my practice. Now i can use my weapons like nunchaku freestyler

  • @Rox23
    @Rox23 8 років тому +35

    As a beginner, I have absolutely no idea how to mimic that unless I see it in slow motion. The video is good for impressing people but not teaching. :/

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  8 років тому +6

      Thank you for your feedback. The intention of this video was with more intermediate Sai practitioners in mind. I would recommend for beginners to view traditional forms, drills, and katas to learn the foundation prior to tricks and flair. I will have slow motion reviews in the future as I am aware of the benefits the learner will attain by seeing this display.

    • @dojotv5915
      @dojotv5915 8 років тому +7

      You can play all youtube videos in slow motion. Click on the gear by the bottom/right side of the screen and select speed.

  • @kyledejesus9024
    @kyledejesus9024 7 місяців тому +1

    Homie went full ninja I watched his nunchuck videos and found him when I searched for sais lol

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  7 місяців тому

      That's good to know! I'll eventually find my way back to UA-cam to make more videos. This is encouraging. I hope the videos help!

  • @maddmann
    @maddmann 9 років тому +1

    nice i liked it going to try a fue of them Wednesday

  • @TheJofrica
    @TheJofrica 4 роки тому

    This is kinda like spinning your pencil in class. Cool stuff 👍

  • @angrybunny7573
    @angrybunny7573 3 роки тому +2

    Great to found this video

  • @saiplayer-xz1mn
    @saiplayer-xz1mn 3 роки тому +2

    what weight is that sai? mine seems pretty heavy

    • @andrewgarratt5191
      @andrewgarratt5191 3 роки тому +1

      That’s the thing…..
      He mentioned the aluminum “competition sai”
      (Complete trash!)
      But I’m not convinced that he’s using a full weight set.
      You…like I most likely have solid steel, If that’s the case than what he’s displaying CAN be done with what you have….
      But it’s not gonna be nailed in a single night….more like weeks……
      “Build up those hand muscles ! 😂”
      I’m willing to bet he has pot-metal with a thin chrome plate….not particularly “light weight”
      But still a good bit more light weight than solid steel or iron.
      I’m betting by now you have reverse spun your sai 100 times….
      Look at the point that causes friction on your finger, if it’s not a different color than the rest of the sai you are dealing with something more heavy than what ol dude is demonstrating with in the video.
      If you see a copper or dark hue where your finger creates friction then you have what this did has….
      Which comparatively speaking is lighter…
      “Just don’t drop them on on a very hard surface…..else the Tusme “prong” break smooth off”
      “I hope this hasn’t happened to you yet.”

  • @tkdhammer
    @tkdhammer 4 роки тому +2

    Great video, is that a particular brand of Sai your using?

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  4 роки тому +1

      Brian Freedman
      Thank you.
      These are just a rounded pair of steel sai from Century Martial Arts Supply with the grip removed.

  • @eirik3540
    @eirik3540 8 років тому +11

    I wonder do you practise kobudo and/or karate? or did you just pick up a pair of sai's to learn party tricks? just curious :D

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  8 років тому +9

      lel thanks for the good question. I actually have a background in both. I wouldn't have been able to develop the dexterity and handling skills without first examining and learning the foundational methods that go along with this implement. Which is why I usually recommend the same knowledge to anyone else who has a curiosity for Sai and Nunchaku. Preserving the history is important.
      But luckily for me UA-cam has quite an assortment of other Sai videos that explain these very concepts from actual combat implications, kata, and drills Which then allows me to cover a more progressive and flashier side to using Sai.
      It's good for parties too ;)

    • @easterriot1916
      @easterriot1916 3 роки тому

      @@GabrielFord I call bullshit on the following comment. "I wouldn't have been able to develop the dexterity and handling skills without first examining and learning the foundational methods that go along with this implement" Dont try to turn this into some east asia mystical secret. Most likely a drummer could pick up your "tricks" I can spin a full wine bottle three full rotations on the palm of my hand. Why? Because I figured out the balance point and practiced. This is beyond silly.

  • @algomez8563
    @algomez8563 6 років тому +1

    Help please. Were to buy a good pair of sais?

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  6 років тому

      amazon.com always has good deals!

  • @CFEntertainment1
    @CFEntertainment1 3 роки тому

    My Sais are 19 inch, around 49cm long. is it still possible to learn more advance things with these than shorter ones?

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  3 роки тому +1

      Hello! Thank you for the comment.
      That’s a good question.
      Yes! You most certainly can perform this trick with shorter Sai. There might be some adjustments to your grip to compensate for some of the weight difference but achievable none the less.

    • @CFEntertainment1
      @CFEntertainment1 3 роки тому

      @@GabrielFord Thanks I will continue to practise then. great content!

  • @Necrocom4
    @Necrocom4 7 років тому +2

    Started using these a few weeks ago using your video as a basis. I dunno why people can't see how you do it I can plainly see it and have done everything successfully because of it. Maybe not as fast and with as much dexterity but I'm guessing that will come with more practice

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  7 років тому +2

      Thank you for the comment and feedback. When I make tutorials I remain aware that there are various learning styles and not everyone will benefit to how my videos are presented. So for future tutorials I will be sure to clarify and visually assist these particular barriers.

  • @MrThereaper13
    @MrThereaper13 10 років тому

    Cool trick bro if you make more video like this I will give you thumb up

  • @DarenDespot
    @DarenDespot 10 років тому +1

    Thanks a lot for sharing this. it was very well explained and easy to follow the logic and the movement of the sai. I'm preparing a demonstration for my next grading, and this video was invaluable. thank you again :-) If there are any other tips, (or better yet, kata) that you can share, i will be your first viewer on those vids.

    • @constra7969
      @constra7969 10 років тому

      I agree if you know a sai kata and tutorial it would be great!

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  10 років тому

      You're very much welcome! I'm happy to know it helped. And thank you so much for watching :)

  • @Stamatos
    @Stamatos 4 роки тому +1

    Great video but my hands are too thick to thumb spin. The sai just scrapes and bruises the boens on the back of my hand. :(

  • @freddiefernandez
    @freddiefernandez 9 років тому +1

    Very cool

  • @chappellroangeekbar
    @chappellroangeekbar 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this! I am trying to become Chris Colfer

  • @adapost-romkes6205
    @adapost-romkes6205 9 років тому

    I tried to do it and it works well only 2 of these moves.. but i have only plastic toy sais is it possible with these?

  • @GrymmTymm1313
    @GrymmTymm1313 8 років тому

    got a good recommendation for a sai? I have not been able to find one with forks wide enough for my hands to spin

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  8 років тому

      Tim Burns I enjoy using aluminum octagon Sai from Century martial arts supply. Although they are very lite they are also practical in the progression that I am not actually using them as potential weapons and rather object manipulation.

  • @AttilaKertesz-eb9bv
    @AttilaKertesz-eb9bv 23 дні тому

    Cool,man!

  • @mattparker7024
    @mattparker7024 9 років тому +1

    does it help without the wrap?

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  9 років тому +1

      Hey there!
      Having the wraps taken off helps for finger rolls with the handle and limits overall friction.

  • @AlexanderRivera23
    @AlexanderRivera23 6 років тому

    Since im planning on getting myself a pair..will it be safe if i practice those at a park?

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  6 років тому +1

      Alexander Rivera Luckily there aren’t any laws restricting Sai use in most states. As long as you’re in a safe area you should be okay.

  • @johnstarter777
    @johnstarter777 7 місяців тому +1

    Where I can order these from?

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  7 місяців тому +1

      Hello, thank you for your question. This particular pair is available on Century Martial Arts Supply.
      centurymartialarts.com/collections/sai-canes-tonfa/products/round-sai

    • @johnstarter777
      @johnstarter777 7 місяців тому

      @@GabrielFord thx

  • @keyboardadventures4828
    @keyboardadventures4828 6 років тому

    I actually started trying to learn how to use these, I have a pair but where can I buy some more? One's I have I found at a flea market lol

    • @tabithabowlsby5358
      @tabithabowlsby5358 6 років тому

      They have them on Amazon, or google can direct you to many websites that sell them

  • @ninjakitty365
    @ninjakitty365 7 років тому

    I'm trying to buy sais but I don't know how long to get them. I measured my forearm and it's about 11.5 inches and I know the Tip of the sai should be a little bit longer then my forearm for defense but I don't know how long to get the sais. help please?

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  7 років тому +1

      Hello! I honestly prefer longer length Sai which are typically 19'' in length. It's more than enough length to cover your forearm and will also help with many of the tricks you can learn for freestyle. The added length will make them more balanced.

  • @alescasa5979
    @alescasa5979 4 роки тому +1

    This is so badass

  • @luvbites23
    @luvbites23 10 років тому

    I must be doing it wrong cuz everytime I try to spin with my thumb, the prong get's stuck over my hand, so it doesn't spin all the way through?

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  10 років тому +1

      A few tips when doing this spin: Push with your four fingers and immediately open your hand face up. Try to keep your fingers pointed down and at an angle while your palm is as flat as can be. Hope this helps :)

    • @Aurumk1
      @Aurumk1 9 років тому +1

      ***** Point the sai up a little when you are spinning and when the spin gets around halfway and hits your knuckle, then kind of move your knuckle under and point the sai up a little bit . It helped me a lot.

  • @jdaywork2693
    @jdaywork2693 6 років тому

    I think the small prongs coming out of the center on my rubber Sai may be too close to the center for those spins. Or I just suck lol.

  • @Josh_Jones
    @Josh_Jones 9 років тому

    Are your sais super light or something the ones I have are like 4-5 pounds every time I try and spin then they fly away

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  9 років тому +1

      They are stainless steel with a chrome finish. Ordered from Century martial arts supply they are quite heavy.

  • @dappershaves
    @dappershaves 7 років тому +12

    Your grip in most positions is wrong, this way you will loose or injure your fingers during sparing/combat. It also generates a lot less engery and force during strikes. Flashy but ineffective!

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  7 років тому +2

      Jacques du Plessis thank you for the insightful correction. But do keep in mind that this ‘trick’ is by no means meant for any traditional application, sparring, or foundational forms, or strikes. I’ll be sure to post a disclaimer at the beginning of my next series of Sai tricks in the future for educational and development purposes. Wishing you well in all your endeavors.

    • @jmvdkooij
      @jmvdkooij 7 років тому +1

      Gabriel. I have just started to practise the sai here in Bali where some of the guys train in Pencak Silat are using the sai as well. They call it trisula here. I am trying to learn your tricks but I need like super slow motion hehe!

    • @katherinegarlock2249
      @katherinegarlock2249 7 років тому +1

      You can always slow down the video if necessary. Click on the gear by the CC tab and it will be an option.

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  6 років тому

      Jeroen-Michiel van der Kooij
      You are a able to adjust the playback speed within the video options.

    • @deetoxinz7252
      @deetoxinz7252 6 років тому +1

      Tbh that flashy move you think isnt effective could be an eye candy that distracts you so your not looking at the other one. Remember these are usually dual wielded

  • @sergeisergei1606
    @sergeisergei1606 5 років тому

    Красавчик все доступно . Большое спасибо.

  • @jaxjax8637
    @jaxjax8637 7 років тому +2

    I see you have no grip tape on your sai do you find it works beter☺

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  7 років тому +1

      Jax Jax, for the more dexterous digit spinning it helps. For this non-combative implementation it's been beneficial so far.

  • @senseiruss
    @senseiruss 4 роки тому

    Nice "trick" - the problem I see with doing it this way is that when the pointed end (kisaki) comes back to your arm, it lands on the bicep and flesh, which would easily puncture your arm if done with real force or especially with a longer sai - I'm referring to :32 to :53. Generally, returning the sai to the arm that way the kisaki should land just below the arm. But this trick definitely look cool.

    • @dtester
      @dtester 3 роки тому

      Sai are blunt weapons to begin with. You might poke of smack your arm but I doubt it would be that big a deal.

    • @senseiruss
      @senseiruss 3 роки тому

      @@dtester It IS a big deal. They are NOT blunt - they have a point, although most are not sharpened. We practice contact drills often with sai (vs. tonfa and bo), and although not very sharp, due to their weight and the force that is used, they easily do puncture the skin when a MISTAKE is made. Even with a non-sharpened kisaki! And we all make mistakes!

    • @dtester
      @dtester 3 роки тому

      @@senseiruss I'd expect something as pokey as a screw driver (at most) but if it's actually close to sharp than I think that would not be very traditional. So to that I would say, don't "trick" with a "dangerous" Sai :) ...I do agree you do have to be careful and I do agree you can hurt yourself accidentally trying to do tricks like the video....I just don't think you would puncture your bicep with a Sai of normal bluntness doing his trick. Smack, poke, bruise, scratch, and maybe even break skin....but not puncture

    • @senseiruss
      @senseiruss 3 роки тому

      @@dtester You disagree. That makes two of us!

    • @dtester
      @dtester 3 роки тому

      @@senseiruss But if we both disagree with you doesn't that mean we agree?! :D

  • @ponnanifarook
    @ponnanifarook 10 років тому +4

    cool tricks good master..thanks

  • @sandhyaom
    @sandhyaom 6 років тому

    Omg he seems professional

  • @seregiattila1683
    @seregiattila1683 6 місяців тому

    Can you fight with these technics???

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  6 місяців тому

      You can most certainly fight off boredom.

  • @hermanheng4943
    @hermanheng4943 10 років тому

    mind blown so far i only learn the traditional way

  • @МихаилПотемкин-у1ж
    @МихаилПотемкин-у1ж 8 років тому

    Все просто и понятно respect автору

  • @Aurumk1
    @Aurumk1 9 років тому

    Could you do this in slow motion please?

  • @iskandarzulkarnain5029
    @iskandarzulkarnain5029 4 роки тому

    Dimana bisa dapatkan barang ini

  • @danieloneil3503
    @danieloneil3503 4 роки тому

    Í have such difficulty spinning around my thumb.

  • @nickanna8857
    @nickanna8857 9 років тому +10

    Never ever ever place your fingers around the yoku (the side prongs). Its a great way to loose a finger. Never take advice about the sai from someone who does this. This is the first thing any student of the weapon learns.

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  9 років тому +11

      Chill, buddy. This is just a "trick". I also teach traditional Sai. In no way is this spin meant to be used in a traditional sense. It's categorized for freestyle.

    • @blakereed1654
      @blakereed1654 9 років тому +3

      How would you lose a finger, the sai arent edged weapons gawd

    • @nickanna8857
      @nickanna8857 9 років тому +2

      Gabe, sorry. I used to teach as well and its my pet peeve. Even for showing off.
      Blake, Wrap your fingers around the base. Have someone swing a stick at you. Block with the sai. See where the stick ends up.

    • @Aurumk1
      @Aurumk1 9 років тому +1

      +Nick Anna Took me a long time but I can do it fluently now. My fingers are sometimes slow though and get caught. I do a wave like motion to get my knuckle under.

    • @dtester
      @dtester 3 роки тому +1

      @@nickanna8857 Major respect to MA and practitioners but sometimes I feel they lose perspective about weapons that people never will probably use to a real fight. I would be honestly shocked if this guys gets into Sai versus Katana fight in his lifetime.

  • @germoney69
    @germoney69 6 років тому

    Looks fency, but I prefer spins with the correct grip. I would not feel well grabbing the sai the way you do...

  • @IdolEyes84
    @IdolEyes84 7 років тому +1

    Gabriel(le) :) Thank you. Can you do tricks with rubber or plastic sais?

  • @manuppa
    @manuppa 3 роки тому

    Cool bro

  • @muddog1561
    @muddog1561 9 років тому +1

    Cool looking spins, but that's not a traditional grip.

    • @robertnixon6548
      @robertnixon6548 5 років тому

      Two Bears Bushcraft as soon as I seen him grab it with the finger around the middle prong I was like “shame on him”

  • @СергейСергеев-м3д9ы

    Когда японцы это увидят, сделают себе харакири😂

  • @connorshaw1624
    @connorshaw1624 10 років тому +1

    i had a go of this once an the guard stuck in my arm because it was pointy lol

  • @tungoco2209
    @tungoco2209 7 років тому

    Is your sai heavy?

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  7 років тому

      This particular pair is made of chrome steel. They are quite heavy, yes. They were a gift but I believe they were purchased from Century Martial Arts Supply.

  • @imanhakim9288
    @imanhakim9288 5 років тому

    This is a famaous weapon in Malaysia we call it tekpi

  • @DONTHATETHEPLAYA321
    @DONTHATETHEPLAYA321 9 років тому

    Wouldn't recommend aluminum but this class is awesome

  • @emyywolf
    @emyywolf 5 років тому +3

    So the TMNT2012 show was true. Raphael really CAN spin his Sai’s

  • @LonnysLessons
    @LonnysLessons 10 років тому

    cool

  • @Aurumk1
    @Aurumk1 10 років тому +1

    I'm lucky, my friend might be making me some titanium sais, out of half inch titanium. They made a hook for a crane and it held some ungodly amount of weight. It bent after 6000 pounds. Titanium is expensive though like 3-5 grand a sheet.

    • @Lea_Zencer
      @Lea_Zencer 7 років тому

      Aurumk1 you really are lucky.

  • @crueltuber2887
    @crueltuber2887 10 років тому

    still having trouble :(

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  10 років тому

      What are some difficulties your finding? I'd be happy to help :)

    • @crueltuber2887
      @crueltuber2887 10 років тому +1

      ive already got it thanks anyways! :P

  • @tamrinrin1637
    @tamrinrin1637 5 років тому

    Salam beladiri indonesia mr.

  • @lastninjaitachi
    @lastninjaitachi 5 років тому

    This would only work with cheapy display replicas

  • @ticiankozak6034
    @ticiankozak6034 4 роки тому

    😮

  • @skybudd
    @skybudd 3 роки тому +1

    Tutorial: Do it like this … Fun simple trick… Spins the thing like I pro…
    Me: 😧I give up

  • @emsports42
    @emsports42 Рік тому +1

    Ninja turtles brought me here 🐢🍕

  • @timothymccormick3032
    @timothymccormick3032 6 років тому +1

    Have fun looking cool while losing your fingers bad advice unless u cosplay a turtle

    • @dtester
      @dtester 3 роки тому

      Sai are blunt weapons like a thin club shaped like a fork so you might bruise yourself at worse if you mess up. It's a Hollywood misconception that they are little swords that have sharp edges or points. (oh, if you mean losing fingers for holding them wrong when blocking a sword...I'm pretty sure it'll be slim that he will get into a sword fight in his lifetime)

  • @spydkiss
    @spydkiss 5 років тому

    ossu!

  • @rodexccs
    @rodexccs 3 роки тому

    you have just lost your fingers there.... you know that right?

  • @cmsacademy1673
    @cmsacademy1673 4 роки тому

    Cool trick, with practice no problem but totally useless to use the weapon. And I like to see him try with my pair at 5kg each

  • @edwardshoenberger112
    @edwardshoenberger112 3 роки тому

    Except for tricks you should never have your fingers on the inside like that

  • @gugolbaho
    @gugolbaho 3 роки тому

    My sai's are too heavy

  • @mikevisgauss2964
    @mikevisgauss2964 5 років тому

    A very detailed explanation of a totally useless move. This is a weapon, not a toy. Beginners- if you see someone do this, understand this is NOT how to handle a Sai. Unless someone can offer a serious explanation of the bunkai.....

    • @dtester
      @dtester 3 роки тому

      You're not wrong...but in today's modern age most traditional MA weapons are going to find more use as a hobby than combat. I know some people do take their MA VERY seriously...but really lighten up ;)

  • @Ghan2927
    @Ghan2927 4 роки тому

    But Satya Sai was n is all pervading. Check out video hereua-cam.com/video/5g1_R3bUYUY/v-deo.html

  • @issacmiria1632
    @issacmiria1632 9 років тому

    U look like a nerd ! But like the supper man , when he take off his glasses , he is supper man, cool!

    • @joelquebec
      @joelquebec 8 років тому +1

      +Renzhi Wang haha supper man. I think you mean Super Man (1 p). Otherwise it means dinner man. Which is closer to accurate.

    • @issacmiria1632
      @issacmiria1632 8 років тому

      +joelquebec lol Nice joke . And i hate my English . I am snack man yeah not snake man .

    • @GabrielFord
      @GabrielFord  8 років тому

      Renzhi Wang I'll accept both as a compliment ;) I do carry quite and appetite.

  • @michelynnsalinas2378
    @michelynnsalinas2378 9 років тому +1

    you need to wrap yo sai handle

  • @LuisRodriguez-oi9eb
    @LuisRodriguez-oi9eb 4 роки тому

    Movimientos d circo 👎. Enseñe movimientos d AAMM técnicas ofensivas y defensivas. 🍀🇪🇸👊💪💪

  • @nicolaspagano7090
    @nicolaspagano7090 9 років тому +3

    so cool you are ultra nerd

  • @void_gaming9108
    @void_gaming9108 7 місяців тому

    Your not holding it correctly it might be a cool trick but in a fight it will get your fingers choped off

  • @theenderjack54minecraftpvz69

    Gg

  • @UpcomingJedi
    @UpcomingJedi 7 років тому

    Not much of a trick. All you do is spin it more than once. dribbling a basketball more than once is not a trick either but i can do that.

  • @joejeff8447
    @joejeff8447 6 років тому

    What a fucking douche, just showing it really fast and not actually teaching anything

  • @81munir
    @81munir 4 роки тому

    The way you hold it when draw position is WRONG. you will get yourself cut against bladed opponent.. No real Sai training do you..? Dont teach other people if you yourself not trained properly, you gonna get other people cut too... This is nonsense..

    • @dtester
      @dtester 3 роки тому

      Do you really think he is going to get into a sword fight?

  • @ravenroth1403
    @ravenroth1403 9 років тому

    ELEKTRA

  • @dinoking6895
    @dinoking6895 8 років тому

    U don't fucking show us properly

  • @bruteratel7240
    @bruteratel7240 6 років тому

    Where can I buy