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To accept evolution is to deny God’s goodness. It directly contradicts the Bible. Do not be a fool! You are going to lead young Christians down a slippery slope of making exceptions regarding the Bible.
Do not be a fool. Evolution directly contradicts The Bible. May God make you very very aware of your error in platforming this nonsense.
Praise God ...waiting on the best podcast I can find on UA-cam
@@SlurpeeBurger652 Believe what you want but don't be ridiculous. How does that affect salvation..at all?
so theres no Global flood? just a local flood say the size of europe or smaller? what about the Dinos like the Trex and other dinos with flesh/bood vessels etc on them how can they be over 63 million years old.
Atheist most of my life believing in old earth and evolution it made me doubt the bible but when i see the evidence from evolution vs God by Ray comfort i looked deeper and saw the earth is young and the bible is true! Saved not long after! Jesus Christ is Mighty to Save!
A Christian should seek the truth on the matter of the age of the Earth and make sure they gets it right as it can be a problem when sharing the Gospel.
This was interesting, to say the least. I love things that make you think. I used to struggle with this as well. However, we should never let something we currently don't understand about the bible to let it question our faith in Christ. Whether you believe the earth is young or not shouldn't detour you from the saving grace from God through faith. We are saved by the blood of Christ, not by how old the earth is. Lol God bless you all.
Basically, just bend the scriptural text to your own logic so it can go hand in hand with the atheist, that's what the scripture warned us about, he still believes dinosaurs walked this earth, the only people who find dinosaurs are the same people who indoctrinate the evolution theory. Don't be foled you guys, and Ruslan only says hmm uhuh hmm interesting, I think he thinks okay let this be a quick one.
@@erwinkonings What's your take on sinless perfection in this earthly life?
Straight Truth! Your sword is sharp my friend. Discern the spirit.
@@erwinkonings umm footprints prove dinosaurs walked the earth, furthermore the existence of dinosaurs isn't antibiblical in any sense. Look at Behemoth and Leviathan in Job.
I look at it as, no matter how old the earth is, the evidence for the resurrection is profound. If that resurrection happened, Christianity is true.
My voice cracks EXACTLY like Mike Jones’s, and yet he’s out there speaking in public all the time. This encourages me and gives me confidence :-)
🙌🏼
I know some people who have that too.. they speak publicly… I think it’s awesome that they don’t let it stop them!!!
We all have our quirks, friend. Glad you are encouraged.
Moses could have had a voice defect and look what happened
Didn’t notice 😮
@@peanutnetwork the fact that you didn’t even notice just goes to show that sometimes our biggest insecurities aren’t even noticed by others! Not saying the voice crack is his insecurity i don’t know him but just speaking to the fact the commentator was encouraged
This is fascinating! My recently passed father in law was an archeologist and studied evolution most of his life and always told me he became a Christian because his work in evolution and archaeology. A lot of what he talks about matches a lot of what he would tell me and my husband.
Sorry for your loss man
Mike Jones got chucked down a flight of stairs in the church and he still came back to the faith!😂
He was tubthumping with Chumbawumba!
Who?
@@JayElDiplee A band from the 90s
@@JayElDiplee - The interviewed man in the video is Michael Jones.
@@JayElDiplee 🤦🏾♂️😂
It's refreshing to hear "don't be afraid of holidays."
Holiday... Holy Day, it's not the day that is unholy, it's the worship of paganism that is. If you are worshipping the birth of Christ on Christmas aka Christ Mass, even if you have a tree it's not pagan worship. It becomes such when Christmas is about the tree in your living room and the decorations of that tree, and the presents that you get or give and becomes completely dependent on these things for what makes a "good Christmas" instead of recognizing Christmas as the birth of our savior the gift of Christ was already given and that is what we celebrate and are to be grateful for on that day. When it's not, and you are not even acknowledging what Christmas is about and why you are celebrating, then you are worshipping false idols... The tree, Santa, decorations, presents etc.
Don't be afraid of Holy Days just be afraid of false Gods being what you are worshipping on those Holy Days
Even if I dont agree with IP, I think its good for people to hear.
Ahhh a mature and responsible disagreement, this is more of what the Christian community needs.
Kudos to you
@@sjappiyah4071 true
Agreed. I agree with IP on the essentials. I might disagree on some non-essentials.
@@kevinpinball I wish people would call them that, non-essentials-
Agreed this is good to discuss. As long as the trinity and salvation thru Jesus is in your doctrine I don't see why we can't have the conversation.
I am glad we can all be family and try to remember the most important part is the Gospel someday we can ask JESUS ourselves how it all came to be but for now the Gospel is the most important.
Let’s get some time stamps for long videos please @ruslan
Spent many years in ministry (1982-present) - Bible Translation, Church planting and pastoral. I plan to write a book in the next two years or so discussing my personal views on the "authority" of Scripture, eschatology and other topics that interest me. So I am finding your discussion here very interesting. Keep it up.
My version of inerrancy is this: I believe that in the original autographs, the Bible is the inspired inerrant word of God, having said that, it doesn’t mean that the humans and scribes translating and copying it aren’t gonna mess up. But we have done our very best to get to the very base roots of what the original texts said, and we have practically done so. Doesn’t mean any of our English translation are perfectly inerrant. They aren’t. It’s why so many versions exist. However the overall message and gospel has been preserved perfectly, and that’s what God promised as far as I’m concerned. And that’s all that matters
That's a tough position to hold because most likely the inspired by God passage is referring to the Bible they had in their day, which was the greek septuagint which differs wildly from the Hebrew manuscripts. So, which is inspired and inerrant?
It’s difficult to say the Bible has errors in it. When you cross that bridge then it can be attacked anywhere. Maybe there is an inaccuracy in the English translation but in the original it’s always ironed out. Takes some digging but it’s always accurate as it claims to be.
That's what he was saying.
The Bible is better with Paul not in it.
@@tony8570 you realize Paul wrote most of the books of the New Testament right?
@@cooper7354 yup. I stick with the gospels only.
@@tony8570 what about the Old Testament?
On the inerrancy of scripture, I much prefer to say "We have the version of the Bible God intended us to have."
Oh man, I didn't realise that Michael Jones was a pro-video editor. I have done video and CGI work for him in the past. If I would have known this, I would have been even more careful with my editing ;) - He was always a pleasure to work with.
I am completely open to evolution even while being raised a YEC. I am an engineer and kind of a logical thinker so this issue has always been perplexing for me. My issues aren't arguments of science but of theology. I believe for me, evolution poses some theological issues that I can't get around.
A Good God does not create out of death. He can use evil for good, but he does not create out of death. Who does that? Hetler and Setan.
Please don’t get caught in the delusion
Data vs interpretation. Until we get a time machine, we are working with little* more than assumptions and delivery, rather than raw substance. So ur issue shouldn't just be the theology but the lack of science.
(EDIT: I’m an old earth creationist now. Feel free to read my comment anyways, but know that I don’t follow what I’ve said anymore. I believe in evolution now, though I still hold that it must be the work of God. Thank you all, and God bless.)
My interpretation is this, and hopefully if I fail in this then somebody can pick up where I left off:
I'll start off with the Flood of Noah. In Scripture, it is stated that Noah takes 2 of every **type** of animal (important). We're gonna assume that "type" means family rather than genus or species. Therefore, it is not only more logical that all of the animals could fit on the Ark, but gives reason to why we see many fossils of extinct "transitionary" animals. These so-called transitionary animals, the ones between one species and another, are not that. They are just cases of natural selection, and nowhere near turning into another animal.
Evolutionists will claim that natural selection through environmental adaptation is equivalent to evolution (or at least claim it as proof of evolution). This is false. To create, say feathers or scales, an animal would already need those genes/DNA to create it. Obviously, humans do not have gene for scales, and alligators don't have wings. Through natural selection, an animal would actually LOSE genes. For example: We have three dogs. One dog has short hair, one with medium, and one with long. If you were to place all of those dogs in various situations (like a desert or a snowy tundra), the one best suited for it would have a much easier time surviving. Let's say we're in the tundra: as more of that same kind of dog arrive to that situation, they will have offspring, which contain less and less genes that are useless to them (such as short hair). Natural selection is not evolution, and if anything bars evolution from occurring from the lack of genes to work with.
And so, returning to the Ark, I believe that the prediluvian world would have many, many natural selected animals who have adapted to their climates or situations to best suit their needs. Or, you could take the other route of saying that God created all of these animals (not requiring natural selection), though they still hold the ability to adapt after the Flood happened which is what we see happening now with many animals.
When the Flood killed all but 2 of every type of every animal, this was basically reset. From these 2 animals, their offspring would migrate, and adapt. This is how we see the various species that we have now. The pre-flood animals that we see preserved within fossils were either created directly by God or naturally-selected. Either way, they were NOT transitionary animals, because that is impossible. A fish cannot become a lizard, and a lizard cannot be a mammal. As I explained previously, every animal literally lacks the genetics to create the traits of another animal. Some would claim a genetic mutation could cause some kind of gene to arise that would lead to evolution, but for that to take place, you would both have to think: a) the Earth is millions of years old and b) genetic mutations are somehow getting genetics that they didn't originally have.
When examined, evolution is fairly easy to disprove, it's just that the majority does not believe in God or would rather stick to what they've been told their entire lives.
Evolution has scientific issues that even the secularists can’t get around.
Also YEC doesn’t deny variations within kinds; we believe in micro evolution by means of natural selection.
The difference is our model has the info in DNA required for natural selection to select.
Acts 17:26. And He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place
This doesn’t contradict what IP said, listen to what he stated at 51:05
It contradicts
@@sjappiyah4071 definitely contradicts.
@@sjappiyah4071 It definitely contradicts what IP said. God separated the ppl according to pre-determined locations, so IP's Pangaea theory doesn't hold up under biblical scrutiny and has absolutely no real scientific basis. I'm sure he'll confidently find so way to try to reconcile the 2 if someone openly challenged him to prove it.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 “according to pre-determined locations”
Meaning they were already in said locations? Because that’s not what Genesis 11 says, in fact it says the opposite.
I’m not on IP’s side neither am I a creationist, it’s just frustrating how you strawman his argument
I enjoy this conversation though I very much disagree. I also enjoy knowing that we're still family in Christ even if we disagree on this!
I felt exactly the same.
Exactly. I am glad we can all be family and try to remember the most important part is the Gospel someday we can ask JESUS ourselves how it all came to be but for now the Gospel is the most important.
What do you disagree with? As an apologist i'm just curious
@@jayyyy6130 As I also disagree, I will offer my disagreements. One, his views on evolution. Two(though connected), chickens are not dinosaurs. More seriously though, his attitudes towards those who disagree on this point come off as proud and disdainful. Three, his views on Scripture, while respectful, are problematic. Though I do hold some agreement with him on that third point.
@@amongthethorns8788 his view of evolution is correct tho, most christians misrepresent it. Chickens arent literally a T rex but are descendents of theropod dinosaurs. And what was the issue with the scripture interpretation?
Macro evolution is not just microevolution over longer periods of time. It cant account for alteration of dgrns, lack of functional proteins in sequence space, or irreducible complexities to name a few issues. It only accounts for phenotype changes. His whole view hinges on that and its just false. Micro evolution only works on whats there by selecting. Macro has to produce novel information.
You're ignoring his main point. Genesis does not teach YEC, nor does it teach evolution. It's doing its own separate thing.
@@CT-316 i think youre replying to the other comment but he said "everyone believe in micro evolution and macro evolution is just microevolution over a longer period of time" that is completely false on a chemical and genetic level.
@@tombadil5164 that's my point. Whether or not evolution is true is a secondary matter. The primary issue in the debate is that Genesis does not teach YEC, nor does it teach old earth creationism, nor does it teach evolution. It's independent of all those interpretations. One only come away with a skewed view of Genesis if they completely ignore the historical, culture, linguistic, religious, and symbolic context.
My point is that evolution, while a debate we should have, is not the main point of contention.
@@CT-316 if you truly think the Bible doesn't teach YEC, all the Old testament patriarchs, and Christ Himself, just got it wrong, you're clearly viewing through secular presuppositions
@@TommyGunzzz I never said they got it wrong. They didn't. Adam, Eve, and the garden, the two trees, the serpent (who was more than likely a Seraphim), and the Fall were all historical, literal things that happened. Christ truly is the new and final Adam, our redeemer who saves us from Adam's fall.
Don't jump to a bunch of conclusions about fellow brothers and sisters in Christ due to a simple disagreement.
I think we glossed over the part where the Bible says He created mankind from the dust, but evolution says we evolved from apes. So what? You believe science about evolution, just not that particular strand of evolution. Birds are dinosaurs to you, but men aren't apes? You can't pick and choose.
It's much easier to believe science is giving false conclusions because it's missing some important data lost to time.
There was no mankind before Adam. Acts 17:26 does not include a time period. All humans, all nations, every time period come from Adam.
You actually had me genuinely interested until you said all mankind is fallen because Adam was like a priest representing pre-existing humanity before falling into sin.
We are sinners because all humanity was physically born from Adam, so we inherit his physical and spiritual state of being. We are saved because through our High Priest we are spiritually born again. Upon Christ's return we will be physically resurrected just like He was, now renewed in both body and soul.
Edit: never mind, he thinks humans are apes too.
@NurdletheTurdle My comment didn't hang on the word dust, it was based on the Acts verse.
Acts 17:26
"From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands."
The argument against mankind's creation without evolution is that humanity evolved from apes and was around before Adam.
But the bible says all human nations that ever were came from Adam. The Greek word for human nations is ethnos, meaning people group, tribe, co-habitting multitude of the same species, etc.
Science says the first such people groups lived 14,000 years ago.
Science also says the first modern humans were around about 360,000 years ago, and the first homo sapiens 500,000 to 750,000 years ago.
So if Adam was our first connection to God as he thinks, humans have been around and capable of knowing and having relationship with God, but was left to its own devices for 346,000 years until God deigned to show Himself.
So human beings made in His image were just living and dying for half a million years before God felt like changing things up?
This would be where people start believing God is just an ancient alien who seeded the Earth with intelligent life. Which leads to people questioning whether God even exists, because why would there be a God when everything works just fine without Him.
Theistic evolution follows the science when it feels like it.
@NurdletheTurdle You're focusing in on a single word again. And you're right, "blood" doesn't mean a single man.
"One blood" does. One blood means one source; that source isn't an ape.
Also who asks random people to "justify" Bible translations? Unless you read and write Koine yourself, you have no authority to judge such things for yourself.
KJV and NKJV it's "one blood."
NIV, NLT, NASB it's "one man."
NRSV it's "one ancestor."
ASV it's just "made of one."
All of those mean the same thing.
Unless you're KJV-only. It which case you interpret it however you'd like.
@NurdletheTurdle also not sure what you mean by where your post went. It's still there for me, so I think you're fine
Creating someone from dust may be commonly interpreted as being making Adam like a clay model, but the term was also used by Hebrews talking about people who were born from women. It's not meant to imply that people were made in the way a clay model is made, just to hammer on the point that people were all created by God, with Adam being the first actual person in that process, who walked consciously and in knowledge of God.
It does seem from the text that there was some overt miracle in Eve though. Adam, having been the first human being with a human mind, was split in half to make the first couple.
Nothing in the language around Adam supposes he was made on the spot, though he was made regardless and we know who made him.
It makes me think of the two splitting of the seas. In one case it looks like a natural event that cleared out the sea for a half hour and then flooded back in, an event caused by a volcano which had been fitting to erupt for thousands of years, and did so at the right time as Moses gathered his people on the shore 2000 miles away. It has a 'natural' explanation, but is shown through probabilities to have been a miracle. The second splitting of waters, at a river, was an overt miracle; something nobody could use naturalism to deny, as the Egyptians had used naturalism to deny the plagues (which also is a miracle of probability, though 'natural' forces)
God can make things from wholecloth, and perform miracles that betray the created nature of things, but often miracles are done instead through having things 'naturally' occur that are extremely unlikely.
Modern people are often looking for the overt miracles, and don't realise the miracle of the mundane world. For us, there is no way we can tell where God is moving as being different from the 'natural' world, and miracles that pierce the firmament between the universe and Heaven are exceedingly rare.
If we’re all physically born from Adam how did Cain find a wife in Neb?
There is some pretty glaring inconsistencies here in my opinion.
Why would God create a world that doesn’t work and needs to fix itself? But then people evolve eventually and God kinda just stamps his approval on them? That sounds like a bunch of species fought in a battle dome and humans came out on top.
He also said something in the effect that believing the Bible as a creation story is awkward and lonely in culture so therefore we should shift out understanding so that we fit in? That’s massively problematic if that’s truly what he means.
And also that young people are the ones to fix and old position also feels pretty problematic to me. You are expecting a new generation to find better answers just because they are younger? Or because culture and popular opinion changes so therefore so does our interpretation.
I think he made it sound like younger earth creationism is going to die off, and that theistic evolution gives Christianity more credence with the world.
Biggest problem to me is evolution is science's attempt to explain everything without God. Adopting that and adding God doesn't eliminate the questions of a young earth model, it substitutes the question for "why believe in God at all if He's completely unnecessary?"
Can’t have death before sin. That alone rules out evolution.
there does seem to be a big issue considering God made man separate and apart from the other animals in His image. so because of this macro evolution from monkeys to us will not fly
Yeah through Genesis Answers I have found much evidence against evolution and especially making claims about time frames by using carbon dating, uranium, lead, etc.
@@jgonscan you elaborate on that..??
I will say this much, I agree that the only possible way for the process of evolution to work is if it’s guided by the intelligent designer that is God. The problem with adaptation being the mechanism for evolution is that when a source species branches off into multiple derivatives (ie, wolves into the variety of breeds we now enjoy) genetic code is being LOST, not gained. Dogs have been bred for very specific characteristics, from aesthetics to utility, by picking and choosing which ones get to breed based on those characteristics. Their genetic code isn’t being enhanced or embellished or extended, but rather it’s being limited into characteristic extremes, and that spreading thin of their dna is exactly why mutts tend to live longer and healthier lives than their purebred cousins. This is exactly why incest tends to result in so many issues for the offspring.
Evolution can’t be true because it would put us on the same level as animals and it would also insinuate that one race or group of humans is further evolved than others
You're actually correct, and i think we have the same thoughts on this. Humans are the same way it's your DNA that's aging. basically imagine a music file and you copy it like 1,000 times it's gonna sound bad after a while. God actually did make it to where you DNA will fix itself but the problem is alot of information gets lost and DNA ends up losing more than it's fixing. If you look at cave men their bones were bigger and I would assume they were taller than the average person cause literally everything was bigger back then. You also had teeth that would always come in straight. Your teeth being crooked is a genetic defect which is why the bible says our bodies are tents meaning they ain't good. Even evolution is kinda wonky, cause something can't live for millions of years evolving slowly. Humans and climate change are the two main factors for animal extinction. You will never see another animal make another one go extinct unless it's by human intervention. If a animal was to evolve for millions of years the climate would of killed the hairless monkey before it could even evolve, cause climate change happens fast not slow so animals need to evolve fast to stay ahead. The problem though is animals can only evolve so far. So lets look at the Panda it's actually not supposed to eat bamboo and no matter how hard it tries to be a vegetarian it cannot. Alot like people vegitarians will never ever be herbivores cause their DNA is not programmed for it.
The problem with Evolution is that it is antientropic and we have never seen anything work that way. Even current life is degrading as we copy DNA over and over again.
@NurdletheTurdle Everyone can gain something from adaptation doesn't mean that it's not deteriorating. Skin tone is an adaptation to sunlight, but as we can see there is more deterioration than actual additions. Also DNA can only go so far because it's programmed to save the animal not make it evolve into something new.
@NurdletheTurdle So does flying Squirrels. DNA acts like a program. Your so called mutation is already in the DNA it's just dormant. Any random fish cant just walk on land given a million years. Your entire theory is a baseless one lol.
God made it so simple we got to make it complicated
Humans LOVE to complicate things 😂
I was thinking the SAME THING
Ecclesiastes 7:29
“See, this alone I found, that God made human beings straightforward, but they have devised many schemes.”
I wouldn't call biology simple by any means
@@whyonthefall5373 male and female …simple man and woman…simple…NOT A THOUSAND GENDERS.
This is just a great, straight up talk about concepts that had kept people in fear for years due to the fundamentalistically legalistic and distorted view of what's written and a willful lack of historical and linguistic understanding of Scriptures.
Thanks for the talk.
I definitely disagree with the statement that you guys made from Genesis and another light source. I do believe that there was an alternate light source before the sun moon and luminaries were created. Revelation 21: 23- 25 shows that there is another light source, that source being the glory of God and Jesus who is the Lamb. We know that Jesus is referred to as the lamb in the Bible as well as the light, as well as Moses having to hide behind a rock because of God's glory. I believe in the Triune God as well and we know that all three of them were there when everything was created, if that was the case then there was an alternate form of light especially in the context of those Revelation verses
Amen
There's alot wrong with what this guy is saying!
God forgive him!
He basicly said we came from primates & hominids.
Blasphemy.
I always took it as foundational structures of particles and waves in which light exists... As a matter of fact that’s obviously what it is.
It also says he divided the light from the darkness in Genesis one on day one, you can't do that without light being there in the first place.
I love it! I know that many of your viewers will benefit from IT'S wealth of knowledge on all these different subjects. Glad I got to hear more of his view on Theistic evolution, though I'd already heard quite a bit. God bless you brothers🙏🏾
For about a decade I thought the same way as this guy. But then I started to feel off. Can’t put a finger on it - but if a conversation feels like “well actualllllly”, and it gives you a more favorable position with the world, that’s a red flag.
I'd say yellow flag, just to be safe, but I know exactly what ur talking about. Especially when it's regarding the things of God.
I’m somewhat like him. I think the Big Bang (let there be light) and evolution as adaptation of species to survive is compatible with the Bible. Maybe not Darwinian understanding of evolution.
I think he goes too far with the liberalism of it though. And ignores some key things that would throw wrenches in his conclusions.
@@choch72 i agree it's compatible, especially the parts we actually witness. I'm just not clear on how adaptation is defined. You'll never find a dog breed that "adapts" to breathing under water by way of gills, no matter how much water one throws at a breed. I'm more familiar with the terms micro evolution vs macro evolution, the key factor being we actually observe micro evolution.
@@arcguardianof course it takes millions years for those adaptations to form
Mike did more catechizing in an hour and 20 min than some preachers do in 10 years. Thank you Mike for all you do!
He found his lane finally.
Now he doing the work
Is that like the Catholic term for evangelizing? Lol
@@s.a.6082 I guess I don't know
@@s.a.6082Chatechizing isn't a term exclusive to Catholicism. It just means teaching or instructing.
I couldn't disagree stronger with the evolution aspect of this interview. I have spent 17 years studying the Darwinian evolutionary model and the biblical creation story and what is real science and science that Peter warned us about, science false so called. Would love to debate this!
Care to elaborate?
@Caleb Urias My bad Caleb it was Paul speaking to Timothy, that's my error and it was in 1 Timothy chapter 6 and for context read 17-21.
@@skwabo I could elaborate for weeks if its just a generic question for more info on the subject as the subject itself is massive. Please try to be more/very specific and we can go from there.
Just because the lug nuts on my Chevy fit a Ford doesn't mean they both evolved from a Mitsubishi 3.5 Million years ago.
@@Mattithias you act like the only evidence for evolution is “these look the same”
Doesnt stack up the same regardless @@nathanrobbins7668
No, but if you have nearly the same genes as your cousin, and you look like your cousin, and you act like your cousin, chances are you both share a grandparent even if you're distinct entities and that grandparent is dead.
In the same way, if humans look a bit like chimpanzees, and they share 99% of DNA with chimpanzees, and they behave a lot like chimpanzees, then maybe there's a chance they're related through a distant ancestor who's definitely no longer around.
This is the problem when everyone tries to interpret the Bible on their own. Everyone becomes their own personal pope with infallible judgment over what scripture says.
I'm surprised the only apologetics used here wasn't about the Holy Spirit personally leading you
Love the content. Bro it’s KOINE Greek -> KOINONIA means fellowship or communion (in koine Greek). Saw that little mistake in a couple of you videos. continue to do that great content for our Lord Jesus Christ!
I was going to mention this. 🙂
I love this brother but just because we know the difference between prescriptive and descriptive and reading The Bible and its proper context does not by no means dismiss it's infallibility and inherency.
I don't understand why he would have that position just because of the necessity to read The Bible in its proper context.
Research Constantine, 323AD and the Council of Nicea, King James, who suspiciously has the exact writing style as Francis Bacon, and his pen name Shakespeare, and the Catholic Church and all of these changes, translations, revisions, and omissions, done by all of them to make it a government publication. The Gnostics and other text and learn why they didn’t mention Jesus from age 12-30. Joseph of Arimathea immediately after the crucifixion, Easter is from Ishtar; this guy didn’t do his homework. He is clueless.
Because that is how contextual criticism works..
This is by far my favourite video that you have posted so far, you were very unbiased and let him speak his opinion without fear of any judgement. GREAT interview and I am looking forward to more to come!!
I love you brothers. God bless you both. I believe we should be enlightening hearts to open minds and not enlightening minds to open hearts. May the Lord's blessings be upon you all
Information do be scary.
Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. May the Lord bless you and keep, Christ fam!
There is an amazing book by John H. Walton (Old Testament Scholar) called “ Lost World of the Israelite Conquest” where he breaks down verse 5 “to put to death”. John doesn’t agree that it’s hyperbolic, literal, or moral. Awesome book to read.
Loved this!! @Ruslan KD you should have some Q and A with Tim and Jon from Bible Project. That’d be interesting to see you all together.
The one thing Theistic Evolution denies is it puts death before sin.
Physical death but not spiritual death
@@thatonechristian2487 The only thing God didn't speak into existence was man. He formed him from the dirt and then breathed life. It is that extension of Himself that makes us eternal beings. Our physical body will die, but our spirit has always been eternal. Let's not complicate things. When God says there was NO death, before sin, that meant NO death. It wasn't some tricky wording that makes it only to humans. Why would millions of years of death, decay and cancer be His gloriious plan?
One of my pet peeves is when people try to use “Early/Ancients scholars believed this also”… as a way to legitimize their view. In every issue you can find early or ancient Scholars and/or Christians on both sides. These issues are NOT new… but when attempting to make their point they act like all “early” scholars agreed with them. Speaking in tongues, Calvanism/Armeanism, Young Earth/Old Earth, etc… all have “Early” scholars on both sides.
@NurdletheTurdle that's a big claim to say "universal across the board". Do you have sources for that claim that I can go to and read up on?
Lol I would rather take the words of the earliest church fathers who were disciples of the first disciples than people who you may consider “early scholars “ that aren’t from that lineage. There’s a difference . The main problem is y’all new age believers want to make up your own interpretations than how it was initially intended.
I'm glad he brought up Cain when he got exiled because I always wondered where the other people came from.
So, watched this today, a month after it was originally posted and I owe you a massive thank you in as much as I now understand the word for Easter that my wife uses in her first language of Welsh (the bit on the West of England...) For "Happy Easter* Welsh is "Pask Hapus" (Hapus pronounced Hapis). Of all the things I never expected to learn, this has been one of them... Thank you
When I was 8 and in Catholic school I asked the priest if it was right to believe in Adam and Eve or to believe in evolution. He replied that it was right either way as long as you believed that God had a plan.
Most of the scientific community also thinks the jab is safe and effective and babies arent babies😮
And things like dark matter or anti matter exist, despite a significant lack of evidence (that is, they got their ideas for these things solely from fallible mathematical equations).
What do you mean by "most"? Did you mean to say "atheist"? Because there are Christian, Muslim, and other religious scientists, who are the opposites of what you just said. Plus, correlation does not equal causation.
RUSLAN I don’t think evolution compliments scripture.
Yes it doesn't. I've always had reservations about IP. Let me download this and listen to what Ruslan said.
Evolution does not compliment science.
@@sheilasmith7779 thank u
It doesn't have to. The Bible isn't discussing science and reading that into the text isn't accurate.
It definitely doesn't
listening to him talk makes you wonder why he's not an Orthodox Roman Catholic since he seems to think nothing wrong came from it.
24:15 the Bible is to be read with the understanding that,
All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right.
2 Timothy 3:16
So when we see people in the Bible speaking or acting outside of God we can learn and realize what is wrong and it corrects us when we are wrong and shows is what is true.
A human fossil foot print is the same no matter how old . God made the earth and everything . What ever He did or brought about or got rid of ... It's still His work not evolution chance ,!!! He made the earth for man in this time of choice just as it should be . Conditions perfect to choose Him or not to !!! Your choice given by Him !!!
@R-uslan_kd your not him
For complaining that people that don't think like the guest don't know context or the meaning behind the Bible he sure does completely misunderstand and not know the context of the Bible. Seems to be a common trend for people that think learning the sciences somehow makes you more qualified to talk theology. Right off the bat he misses the whole problem with Sarai/Sarah being the person that couldn't have children, hence why she told Abraham to sleep with his slave. Like it takes like one minute of reading to see Michael Jones has a lot of flaws in thought and understanding of the Bible.
One particularly good thought that can come from what I would call this untypical view of the Bible is that we need to focus on Jesus. The OT always is perplexing for me. I look forward to getting to heaven and finding out actually how the universe was formed, Adam and Eve, and then everything else. Still, his take on the Bible is only from a human view where God doesn't mess with time. I think God DOES play with time and from that, anything is possible.
@@BruceWayne-is3xl Yes. This I why I mention he's using human understanding to deal with an omnipotent God that does NOT have the limitations this guy is projecting. It's rather silly.
When I am witnessing, I don't try to explain every question a skeptic might use to derail the discussion and instead, only want to discuss Jesus.
@@BruceWayne-is3xl is it fair not to believe that evolution and nature may have been instrumented in a functional way BY God? I don’t think we have to separate the two, rather God is all powerful and perfect and created an incredibly complex and intricate system that obey the laws he’s set
@@JohnDee633 do u have some examples?
@@BruceWayne-is3xl I personally, don’t take genesis to be a literal fundamental meaning. There substantial evidence that things in the OT didn’t happen the way they described. I’d recommend Buried Secrets of the Bible with Albert Lin. I think the significance of genesis, whoever the author is, is the 7 days is a conceptualization for us to understand, not so much literal days. We have to remember these manuscripts are written by human beings, although god inspired I do not limit god to a human conception of time
The Bible says that God spoke everything into existence, so why are you perplexed about how the universe was made? Why is that not good enough for you?
35:16 He will physically return AND resurrect us is essential. Paul was very strong about this necessity in 1 Corinthians 15.
One question I have is if humans already existed when Adam and Eve were created, what’s the point of burdening Eve with childbirth for her sin?
Wouldn’t she already have been burdened with childbirth?
@@choch72 we don't believe genesis story was literal. More like a story
Imagine you're a T-Rex and you see your successors in 60 Mio years will be chickens 💀
That Mike Jones is everywhere lately.
Good! He is great
It shocked me to see him in the lore lodge
This video needs a Bibliography attached to it. He listed so many resources that I feel like I need to look at. Now that Dr. Heiser has gone to be with the Lord I am looking for more teachers who will explain Eden to me. Grateful for the scholarship that is being done by so many people. Thank you both!
What are your questions on Eden ?
I miss heiser
Definitely recommend Dr. John Walton. Check out his stuff on Genesis, and Job too for sure. Very enlightening, thought-provoking.
You can look through the Transcripts to find his resources
@@regularstan6212Same. I felt it when I heard he died. It hurt.
I appreciate Michael and know he loves the Lord. I just find some serious issues with much of what he asserts here. I will post a longer more in depth response on Facebook.
I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. Romans 17
So you think because his view on creation differs from your somehow means he is against the doctrine? Got ya….
Love Michael's content. I remember when he first went full-time. I also remember watching Mike Winger beat him in arm-wrestling live. ;) I appreciate all of his content, even that which I can't quite cotton to. To me, his best material, by far, are his series on the nature of consciousness and the series on quantum mechanics. Both are interwoven and are a masterful marriage of both philosophy and science. These issues are at the very core of any paradigm, so a proper appreciation for the questions and conundrums involved cannot be overestimated. I'm sure that material was very taxing to produce, but I'd still like to see more along those lines. God bless, brethren.
wait can you show me that i never sen that, show me the arm wrestle
@@konkoor881 Lemmuh see if I can find it. It’s probably at least 4 years old but I think I have it in a playlist somewhere.
He said, "if we dont believe what he believes in the coming generations it will Cause Christians to "lose" their faith?
He's saying that God does not have the power to keep his own
Great interview, so informative thank you. The only person I know that is stuck in all holidays are evil, also believes the earth is flat 🙄
What a weird title for a video. I never even heard of Young Earth Creationism until at least a year AFTER I became a Christian.
It's actually not weird considering the term has been around longer than you've been a Christian.
What I have learned from reading the Bible, listening to apologists, and having a profound revelation of the Word is that the "stories" in the Bible are actual events that took place. These were written by imperfect people who were guided by the Holy Spirit to record significant occurrences that connect everything to Jesus Christ, both before and after his resurrection. These events have shaped the church into what it is today. I firmly believe that the Bible is an incredibly reliable source of historical and spiritual knowledge. This is because the Word of God, Jesus, is alive and well, making the Bible just as alive and just as vital in our lives today.
While the age of the earth is of importance to the sciences, how is it of importance to christianity?
The age of the earth is even more important to biblical Christianity because it is connected to the true gospel that Christ came to deliver. A person cannot delve into the details of that true gospel without first understanding why God created this universe in the first place and everything that happened before Gen. 1:2.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 True, however the age of the earth is not significant to our salvation or the gospel.
It's of interests to scientists.
We know God created the universe and that he sent His son for our ultimate salvation.
That's what matters.
Arguing over the age of the earth is silly.
I listened to the whole thing and respectfully I don’t think I have ever disagreed with anyone more especially another Christian.
Yeah, I'm right there with you
i absolutely agree. ruslan is wrong on evolution, and wrong on the literal translations. does he believe noahs flood was a metaphor?
I’m curious as to what you’re basing your disagreement on. Because I highly doubt you could reference anything that would be convincing at all. The Bible and scientific evidence alike. He’s using both to form his opinion, whereas you just say “no I don’t like that so no”.
IP is great. I learned about evolution in 10th grade biology and thought it was just an atheistic world view being pushed down my throat, but it actually made sense. My faith was hindering at that point but I found IP explain it perfectly and now I'm still a follower of Christ!
So, you believe that the first life (cell) came about by the random assembly of chemicals in a "primordial soup"???
That too is evolution! 🙏
@@eswn1816 I believe that God guided that process by the laws of science and math he instituted in this world. I think the idea that God created life through a very complex scientific process that even today we don't fully understand and can revel at the complexity of it is far more fascinating than Him just speaking and it happening, though that is also a possibility.
@@JohnDee633Not all those issues need this same logic. When God evolved man from apes to humans, that stayed under science. However, when God split the Red Sea, or when Jesus performed miracles, those were few instances where they went above science. We can balance science and the Bible. It's just that God is above science. I don't understand your point.
@@BruceWayne-is3xl that’s not exactly what IP said. Evolutionary Creationists generally still view god as the actual creator of all things, either by direct constant control, (and could use OT verses about God sustaining all things as evidence), though I believe this version has more problems, like the problem of evil, or by a single creation event whereby God set creation on a path, (ie: the Big Bang) and fore-KNEW the path creation would take. In this view, as I’ve understood it, Man is still an intentional, inspired creation. In Michaels view this would mean that God always from the beginning intended man as an image bearer, and selected Adam and Eve from that pool as first representatives. This version accounts better (at least in my estimation) for free will of all creation and our need for a Savior. It’s biggest complaint I often hear is people feel like Adam MUST be THE SOLE first man, which is also quite possibly from Gods perspective. After creating the universe one man would be an easy creation.
So would the Resurrection for that matter.
So you telling me you believe in Lucy and all the other fictional characters they tried to make true.
Plus Darwinist leave out information that doesn’t fit their narrative
I think it’s a interesting take , but his foundation is other “scholars “ that he agrees with , implied text , and philosophy is endless bs , but whatever to each there own, I am glad he recognizes the true Gospel of Christ , I think some of his views are crazy but good on him for thinking
IP just recognized that 2 seemingly opposing viewpoints both have good supporting evidence, so the best explanation has to affirm them both.
There are far more young people who abandon their faith because of the teaching of evolution than young people who abandon their faith because of what is taught in the scriptures...People who embrace the teaching of evolution will not suddenly convert to Christ if Christians everywhere begin embracing this theory. 🤦♂️
Just a few things that I didn't agree with but I think it was a good conversation.
3 out of 3 of my children grew up to be non Christian’s. My husband and I raised them open to believing science and scripture was compatible,but other Christian’s told them they were going to hell.
I'm sorry. That terrifies me as I am raising children.
Sounds like a cop out
Unfortunately when kids get 40 hours a week of anti God indoctrination, and 2 hours of Bible teaching or less, only the holy spirit can undo that. And it doesn't take much. God is faithful always. I grew up and tried to be anything but a believer but God held on to me and here I am, back where my grandmother rooted me. The race is not finished
Not giving up. But want the church to do better preparing children for the shock when they leave our nest. We need solid teaching and best practices for reading and interpreting the Bible. All the divisions and denominations cast doubt on the truth.
In my church we read the lectionary- scriptures that told the main story of salvation. So when my teenagers read the Bible- cover to cover on their own, through their limited cultural lenses- they were disillusioned . Now they think it’s all a myth.
I was in the Air Force as well. They sent me to Alaska. Definitely wasn't for me. I want to believe in God and Jesus. Just have never been able to consistently. I feel led to watch this interview.
I hope you enjoyed it! There are a lot of good resources out there, but the Bible is the best one. Read it, please. 👍
If you have questions or concerns let us know
Great convo, thanks for what you do!
Around the 30-minute mark you disgust debating with skeptics and asking them to be just as charitable with the ancient Christian writings as they are with other ancient writings, and I had to chuckle.
I've had those conversations many times with many skeptics and atheists and the like. When I ask them to use the same standard that use for other texts, they tend to back off very quickly. Occasionally I'll simply respond with, "Be careful. Your hypocrisy starting to show."
Awesome dialogue bro RuslanKD and Mike Jones IP!! Informative and engaging. 👏🏼🔥
This was interesting convo especially on his Genesis explanation. I, like Ruslan, had never heard some of that narrative interpretation.
I was very confused that he includes Catholics into orthodox Christianity, but not fundamentalist Christians. He painted them all with a broad brush. Perhaps this is due to the trauma he received as a child while attending that type of church.
I would encourage a quick look into John Piper’s blog post “20 Reasons I Don’t Take Potshots at Fundamentalists” and also his post “Praise God for Fundamentalists” Here is a quote from that post.
“What I want to say about Fundamentalism is that its great gift to the church is precisely the backbone to resist compromise and to make standing for truth and principle a means of love rather than an alternative to it. I am helped by the call for biblical separation, because almost no evangelicals even think about the doctrine.
So I thank God for fundamentalism, and I think that some of the whining about its ill effects would have to also be directed against the black-and-white bluntness
of Jesus.”
So close. I was waiting to see if he would say it. If he just would have stayed focused on the kingdom concept. Thanks for giving me Jer 4:22-28. Good job Ruslan for asking about the concept of death entering through Adam. There is an interesting consideration for who/what was to be subdued in Gen. Isa 14:12-15, Luke 10:17-20, Rev 11:15-16, 1 John 5:19, Matt 4:8-9, Matt 12:25-26
If there was sin before Adam, how then is death and suffering a part of the curse? How is the gospel relevant at all? If God created death and suffering and called it “good” then id rather go to hell then serve Him. YEC does not contradict the gospel like OEE does. The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life.
Your body has to die, your flesh has to be eaten. All this material has to be recycled. But your spirit...
YEC does in fact, contradict the gospel. The gospel is about how the government of God will be restored to this planet(Acts 3:21), which was taken away by Lucifer and the rebelling angels _before_ the events of Gen. 1:2. The folly of YEC lies in the fact that it essentially rewrites history and completely absolves the rebel angels of their actions.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 Literally no. The genealogy's cant be discarded like that. "The folly of YEC lies in the fact that it essentially rewrites history and completely absolves the rebel angels of their actions.", no that's absolutely not even coherent to what it says and is a non sequitur, as it doesn't follow the point you made. It doesn't in anyway absolve the demons of anything, Jesus dies for our sin and takes back the keys of hell from the demons in regards to ultimate claim to man going to hell. " The gospel is about how the government of God will be restored to this planet(Acts 3:21), which was taken away by Lucifer and the rebelling angels before the events of Gen. 1:2" That is either irrelevant or another non sequitur because it has nothing to do with demons. Death CANNOT of preceded sin and evolution is a violent cycle of death and destruction. It doesn't rewrite any history because if you play that fast and loose with the bible you cant even say any part of it is history when secular history has very little mention of any of it and you end up picking and choosing what to believe. Your comment doesn't actually make any biblical sense
To begin with, it is not the fundamentalists who are against Christian holidays, those who do so may claim to be fundamentalists, but they are not. They are the ones on the fringe giving true fundamentalists a bad name. Jehovah Witnesses are not fundamentalists, yet they are one of the main groups who claim Christians holidays are evil. Them and others like them are NOT Christian, and do NOT claim they are fundamentalists. I am a fundamentalist, and I hold to the true fundamentalist Scripture teachings. Try building a bridge by no adhering to the fundamentals of math. Try teaching the Word without sticking to the fundamentals of the Scriptures, and you will fail. Words mean things, and just because someone calls themselves a fundamentalist does not make them one. I will post more of my thoughts as I watch.
Catholics and Protestants agree just using different terminology?! You should have James White on, someone that actually knows what they are talking about when it comes to this stuff. They deny the sufficientcy of Christ atoning work, to me that is a deal breaker.
And I realize that some are haters and poor representative of Christ, but it is not hatred to evangelize those that believe in another gospel, a false gospel.
James White?? He just lost another debate to a Catholic. That makes it about 5 in a row just this YEAR. 😂
I like Interviews with the Host Not debating the Guests and twisting the guest’s words to ridicule the guest’s point of view. Ruslan just asking questions and let the audience hear for ourselves the guest’s answers. 👏🏻
I believe God will make Genesis make perfect sense when we go to Him, I don’t need to take wild guesses from people who don’t have nothing but theories. I’m at peace with God’s word, I trust mysteries will be revealed to us beautifully at one point and we’ll Glorify God for his amazing ways
Being a former Catholic I have to disagree with you about the Catholic doctrine on salvation. The catechism says that you are saved by grace but you must maintain that grace by works of obeying the sacraments. I don't think protestantism teaches that you have to maintain your salvation by working to keep it. Example, if you deliberately miss one mass it's a mortal sin you are condemned to hell unless you go to confession and are absolved by a priest.
Interesting, I didn't know that missing a mass deliberately was that big of a deal in catholicism. I bet most catholics don't know that either
I agree, he doesn't like to go into details if his specific denomination so it refuses to speak against those who abuse the Bible... except for fundamentalists. He hates them and I get it, I had bad experiences with that lot as well, but they are still superior to those who preach a false gospel.
Catholics and Orthodox see "Grace" as a "process" while protestants see it as a "static state". Catholics and Orthodox believe you can lose your Grace if you dont follow the sacraments, dont do charity, commit evil etc while protestants believe once you receive grace you cannot lose it.
@@vincentfox4929 Either way, it sounds to me like they ultimately base salvation on works rather then faith. Charis/grace is a gift from God - Eph 2:8, Eph 4:7. GIfts are not earned they are given. Grace is no longer grace if it become meritorious - Rom 11:6
Not sure your priest was a Catholic.🤨
I love Michael, but the arguments for theistic evolution were utterly unconvincing, and require MUCH more adding to the text than does the historical biblical approach.
He tweaking on the evolution
Yall say this and then don't provide any arguments against what he said lol
@@space3555 Not every comment need be an argument.
@Ginja Ninja It certainly doesn't but I making an observation. NEXT.
@@space3555 Your observation was followed by laughter, making it come across as snide. If that wasn’t your intention you might consider checking yourself. What does NEXT mean? Is it like “moving on”?
1 Peter 1:25
“But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.”
King James Version (KJV)
I don't think this theistic evolution is necessary for salvation or essential to faith, however young earth creationism has a lot more foundation and real science than people want to give it credit for
And Evolution a lot less. Could God have made all life through theistic Evolution? Well, sure, I don't see why not, but what is there to recommend that view over the far simpler straight reading of Genesis? Especially when Evolution has such terrible evidential support.
what is the real science you are referring to? that the earth is 6,000 years old? lololololololololol get out of here
@@austin_penn well, if Evolution is the best theory atheists can bring to the table, then God creating the universe wholecloth ex nihilo starts to sound pretty reasonable, lol.
@@StrategicGamesEtc even if the evolution didnt happen to be true, that doesn't erase the clear scientific evidence that the earth is A LOT older than 6,000 years old
@@TrevorLaub yeah, despite that I consider myself to have far more in common with YECs than OECs, I think most YECs would call me an OEC because I think the evidence for the Big Bang is more compelling than any of the alternatives I've heard
As long as you Believe in Jesus Christ and accept Him as your Lord & Savior it’s ok if you don’t understand every bit of the Bible or all the context from the cultures who wrote it. Jesus is the only way to God the Father. Whosoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life! Love your neighbor as yourself! Seek after God! If you do that you’ll be fine even if certain things in the Bible don’t mean what you thought they did! That being said I love learning the context and going deeper into the Bible!!! No matter what I find it won’t shake my Faith! I appreciate both of you! Love listening to both of you! 🙏🙏😎
Excellent, thank you so much dear brothers. Praise God for what you do 🙌🏼
Home of the Pittsburgh pirates and i do live in western Pennsylvania and Pittsburgh is only around an hour away from where I live. Good to see a fellow youtuber like inspiring philosohies from Pennsylvania.
I thought for sure you were going to say “good to see a fellow yinzer”. 😂
Half way between Pitt and Erie here! Woot woot. Represent! 😂
@@markskojec863any time I see someone say they’re from this area they always type a good ole “yinz” lol! I was born here and moved around a bit before returning home in 5th grade so the yinzing skipped me but it’s definitely a common occurrence for those who never left home! Lol
And he said we couldn't incest but we was living til 700 years old some 800 and 900. So our bodies were a lot more resilient and lasted longer. Incest prolly wasn't a problem for our bodies then.
thanks. And you cannot avoid the issue of incest anyways. Also if you would follow evolution, there has to be ONE first Fish, Reptile, Human (or atleas one has offspring which all are the next evolution stage) so they have the incest issue again. Only way to avoid it is if God created 2000 first Humans.
Issue of Incest is that the probablity/risk of inheriting the same weak/corrupt gene from both parents is increased. So ilnesses are much more probable. But if the genes of both parents have no corruption, there is nothing to worry. Today, noone has no corupt genes, mostly your mothers gene cover for your fathers gene-issues and the other way around. but at this time there were nearly 0 corrupt genes.
Evolution is still happening right under our noses. Breeding domestic animals to suit out needs is human induced accelerated evolution. As a hobby herperologist I read many research papers about populations of reptiles that came into a new habitat and within generations changed their anatomy to better survive. I always thought of Genetics as God's software.
From the dust you came and to the dust you shall return. We are not animals mammals or apes. We are made in the image of God. Jesus is God incarnate and told the disciples if you have seen me you have seen the father. God is not an ape or a fish that evolved into humans. From dust he created a perfect human body and breath the spirit of life into it.
that's not what he said lol. Also, we are literally mammals because we birth our kids instead of laying eggs; all the elements in our body can be found in soil,God made us in his image referring to our souls and spirit as the father is spirit. Just like God isnt unitartian neither are we
A mammal is a classification of an animal. You may be a mammal, I’m no animal. Adam was giving dominion over all animals so clearly God made a separation from the two. It say God made man or mankind out of his image. It doesn’t say nothing about a soul being placed in the body and then God breathe the spirit into it. The body with the breath of God equals a living soul. The scripture talks clear about what souls are. Death is the final enemy for mankind this is why we needed a savior. For us to be redeemed to Life. We are going to be resurrected/translated into a glorified BODY from this sinful one. Don’t be telling me either that my Lord didn’t say that because I can give you the Bible verse if you like.
@@Commandosoap777 a platypus is a mammal that lays eggs
I think the thing that makes man different from other animals is out “knowledge of good and evil” which we inherited from Adam. The time where things changed, due to Gods intervention was this knowledge - he knew Adam would eat the fruit.
When a lion eats a cub, it’s just nature - but if a human does the same, we know it is evil… making g it evil.
IP doesn't hold the Christian presuppositions in his worldview, so while he's a fine scholar he fails to be consistent in the Christian faith.
He's made compromises that I wouldn't advise anyone to. However, I wouldn't say that he's not a believer, and even enjoy much of his work.
Could you give me some examples? Genuine question, not trying to argue lol.
@@rickyderby Creation
@NurdletheTurdle that's nice, but according to what standard?
@NurdletheTurdle so read the Genesis history in light of the building of the Temple, rather than the other way around... Backwards... Because, it's too difficult to maintain the right way of looking at it, in light of the Evolutionary worldview?
@NurdletheTurdle and this is preferable to actual Creation how?
I always love these Johnny come lately's who tell you that you had it wrong, but I got it right. It is called, 'Standing on the shoulder of giants'
Mike jones should debate Jason’s lisle. Jason is an extremely intelligent creationist that takes the scripture more literal in specific contexts.
Ruslan should interview Jason Lisle.
I want to hear that.
ROMANS 5:12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned-
1 Corinthians 15:20-22
20 But in fact Christ has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.
I just can't get down with what Mike is saying. Death was the result of Adams sin. How could there have been death before Adam? I'll believe scripture over philosophy for the truth.
@Jordan Lane the wages of sin is death. Death is the result of sin.
“Theistic Evolution” … seems like a fancy way to say, “I believe all scriptures ACCEPT Genesis 1-3”
Except Genesis. The problem is they don’t Accept it. And you can’t have death before sin. That rules out evolution. It’s a dangerous lie that glorifies death as the new creation bringer.
I never got caught up in the NEW or OLD earth argument. I believe the bible teaches a 6000 year creation of MAN. There is a great documentary on this. (IS GENISIS HISTORY). The bible is about faith, not how smart we (Think) are. Rm1:22.
Ruslan bring Ken Ham on your show and he will bring you back from whatever rabbit hole this guy is taking you.
Michael would obliterate Ken Ham
I definitely recommend everyone here to watch the Ken Ham/Bill Nye debate.
If we evolved from apes how are we made in the image of God? Wouldn’t we be made in the image of another species? Also if a soul is just consciousness than every animal and plant has a soul.
He has addressed this point. The phrase “made in his image” at the time meant more like to be elect. As in we were chosen
We have a common ancestor with the apes that we evolved from.
@@CrashMetaReligion1996 no, it didn’t; He made that up. “in our image” comes from the Hebrew word “selem” which means image, likeness, resemblance
@@tylique9142 cool
@@of_the_Word He isn’t the only person I have seen who has made this point. It’s pretty commonly known at this point. It’s sad how scientific illiterate most Christians are. Jesus and God are real but so is evolution. The sad thing is many younger more scientifically literate Christians are questioning their faith now because some churches teaches against basic science. The truth is they are compatible
This is gonna be very difficult for alot of people to grasp including me. We've misinterpreted the Bible for so long.