I saw them in concert. I had a VIP pass bc my daddy was their lighting engineer. I took a picture with them. I was 16 at the time. Damn I wish I could go back to that moment. Thanks dad. RIP
@@neomalapane7428 EXACTLY SHAWN AND MIKE HAD GOTTEN INTO A FIGHT THAT SHAWN PROVOKE. HE KICKED MIKE OUT OF THE GROUP, MIKE HAVE DONE WRONG IN WAYS TRUE BUT THEY'RE NOT INNOCENT EITHER.
Right, noticed that by body language from all three during presentation of their Boyz 2 Men STAR with Mike present on stage in 2012. But this interview, confirms all… Sean had serious issues with him, from his response, as if Mikes vocal (bass) wasn’t really needed, didn’t matter far the overall group sound.. irrelevant after recording on all their biggest record album.. would love to get all those record producers (Jamm & Lewis, Baby Face…) true perspectives.. in my opinion the original group member Sean Stockton is the one easiest replaceable in the group and would not be missed, had no uniqueness, vocally but harmonized well… Mike brought a form of stage presence and the superior bass ingredient needed and fans loved to hear.. now the missing ingredient to their hit formula and the others (Sean, Wanya, Nate) know it’s what’s missing to this day, 20 years (2003) after his departure from the bestselling 90’s R&B male group..so why did Mike leave !? But there is an old saying “you health is your wealth” so Mike made right decision… looking at S. Stockton especially going forward 😏💭
And everyone saying they have lost respect for Boyz II Men for dissing Mike. You have to understand, when Mike was in the group he was missing shows, they would have to do the shows with 3 people when the 4 of them were advertized. Mike's job was really to do the "speaking" parts. Nate was always capible of singing Mike's part, and like they said Nate did most of Mike's work but never got the credit. They went through all sorts of hell with Mike and to expect them to kiss his a$$ now that he's gone, and had been gone at that time for 12 years is asking entirely too much. Let them tell the truth about Mike- no sugar coating it.
Yeah. He is really missed, but whatever went down really only the 4 of them know it and they have really tried to put it to rest and keep going. Yes, is not the same without MIKE but they have managed to do it without him. I just can't believe after all this years, they are not all together. I know he is better now I guess he took care of his illnes
That's what 'they said' however Mike's voice was critical to the original sound. I am the listener. They shaded and abandoned him, so wrong, because he was one of them. Sad how they treated him. A real friend is one who sticks with you to the end.
Right not to mention they continued to pay Mike even when he wasnt showing up for concerts, rehearsals then he stopped answering their calls and his door so what were they suppose to do besides move. foreward
@@sonyaprince6786 Mike admit on the Iyanla show he went into a deep depression that caused him to be distant from his group mates. They're grown men know I wanna see some hand shakes, Mike may have did wrong in ways but they're not innocent themselves.
In my opinion R&B officially died in 2007, of that classic R&B sound. 2008 to present it's evolved into an amalgamation of all sounds and styles; Lo-fi (aka chillwave), that spaced out/ethereal the weeknd sounding stuff, PBR&B, etc.
Jennifer Tan he did left for health problems but inner fighting as well. He just wanted more money which is not realistic because he left the group about 13 years ago
@@riod7559 Right they're telling lies in 106& park telling all kinds of stories. In 106&park Shawn Stockman said they let Mike go and be with his family cause he have SCOLIOSIS. Shawn Stockman said in the Bio Channel he kicked him out of the GROUP. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE with Mike.
Getting Michael McCary to get back with BoyzIIMen, is almost as hard as getting Lauryn Hill to record with Wyclef and Pras again. Oh, how I wish pigs could fly...but....wait a minute.... Pigs do fly.......they're called Pigeons. THERE'S HOPE, PEOPLE!!!! THERE'S HOPE!!!!!
People in this thread saying they lost respect for these guys, because Mike kept secrets and wasn't dedicated like they were. Smh. So do you all think David Ruffin was done wrong by The Temptations for his actions? Smh
Actually I do feel like the tempts did david wrong lol. Otis has a tendency of telling his story how he seen it but maybe wasnt actually how it happened. Now david definitely had his demons but he wasnt the only one in the group that did. And boyz 2 men got greedy. They wanna say oh he left so when he came bk he wanted more money and he didnt deserve it because he didnt go through what we had to go thru during the rough years. Most of what they went through were because of them and getting too cocky and people didnt want to work with them anymore and they thought they could do it all alone. That man is an original member. He should be paid what yall are getting paid. No matter how many years he was away. That's just my opinion but I still respect yours and see where you are coming from whole heartedly
@@liberalview6729 hmmm got ya but what they didn't say (to preserve his image) is that at a point in time he was promoting shows saying Boyz II Men will be appearing/performing when in fact it was him trying to gain money off the brand. Also if you saw the interview on Iyanla he himself said he didn't tell them about his illness - if you think about it him doing that opens the rest of them up to litigation (misrepresentation, breach of contract - because 4 people were slated, not 3) so it kinda makes sense for them to distance themselves from him for a bit until he gets his own affairs sorted
@@wrenchworth They were never the same. In an interview, Shawn talked about how Mike leaving was one of the most difficult obstacles they had to overcome. Their sound and appearance changed, their whole aura was switched up! So, yeah. He gave them that signature Boyz II Men sound I fell in love with.
It's a pure lie if you say Mike's absence or voice is not missed in the group or your production!Even of his work is that of mimicking what Nate laid out for him,his bass is still very superb and natural....we your fans would tell you nothing but the truth, Michael Bass Michael is surely. missed in Boyziimen!
Mike is missed in the sound, but not really the production. Nate would actually write and produce all of Mike's parts. He's really only missed for stage sound, and a capella.
@@eljames2011 I agree. That's why his performances are missed ON STAGE primarily. Because there's nothing like a true 4 piece live harmony AND because when Mike was healthy, it made for a better overall show. But as far as studio work, Mike isn't needed as much. The reason for the Boyz ii Men decline was NOT because of Mike's departure. It was because of the rise of white boy bands like 86 Degrees, Nsync, Backstreet Boys, etc. Whether Mike remained in the group or not, Boyz ii men would've suffered the same fate.
"In the BEGINNING..." "BOYZ II MEN DISCOVERED THEIR MUSICAL 🎼 😍 ♥️ JOURNEY...." "LOL!" THE STRANGEST THING IS...THE JOURNEY HASN'T STOPPED!!!" "THEY ARE, BY FAR, THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
They're still as amazing now as they were 20 years ago! I bought the Evolution album in 1998, when I was 14 years old. It was when I started listening to (R&B) music. That album has so much nostalgia to it, it's unreal. I think there's much more to the story about Michael than that. I don't think they're in contact with him and they must've fallen out quite badly. I heard some rumours about him getting violent, hence why he was kicked out. Who knows...
IT'S MORE TO THE STORY ON THE BIO CHANNEL SHAWN AND MIKE HAD GOTTEN INTO A FIGHT. IT WAS AT WANYA'S HOUSE MIKE WAS LEAVING OUT SHAWN WAS ARRIVING AND MIKE SAID SHE YALL IN JAPAN, SHAWN SAID TO MIKE YOUR NOT GOING TO JAPAN. MIKE SAID SHAWN KEPT GOING ON WITH IT HE SAID ITS NOT THAT SERIOUS UNTIL MIKE LOST IT AND JACK SHAWN AGAINST THE WALL. SHAWN SAID MIKE YOUR OUT OF THE GROUP, THEYRE SAYING MIKE KEFT THE GROUP LIES.
So had ultimately, they didn't need Mike. I think poor communication caused alot of this. Mike had a responsibility to tell his business and bandmates he had MS. He didn't do that. He just said he had back issues. Until they get In one room together the story will always be different. But I dont think they hate each other. Mike is with them when they get presented awards.
Ok this is 6y old now... But understanding the pain he was in from his scoliosis and hearing them say he just doesn't want to work is very difficult to hear... But now finding out he has MS... (Understanding he never told them) it's very disheartening to watch... Pain all the way around.
boyz II mean! I thought this group are bigger than just collecting money. how do you minimize the role former member as just auxiliary. he actually gives the music style
I feel they could have represented Mike a lot better. I understand they had to move on and it was a difficult decision. But Mike was there when they were most successful. They don't have to downplay him like that. And according to multiple people that worked with them, including them in their VH1 behind the Music their egos led to their demise in some ways. But I appreciate them , for the amazing Music they brought us throughout the 90s 💯
Mike sold himself short really. Not every guy in a group is going to give 100 percent. It's pretty clear that from the beginning Mike was that guy. If you check the credits on their first album, Mike co-wrote / wrote not one song. The other three contributed to writing at least three songs, with Nate writing / co-writing seven. If you cannot glean any sense of the individual ambition and work ethic of the members from that ... then you're just not swift.
Boyz II Men are artists and performers. It's a business, and when Mike chooses to know longer. Show up for concerts & performances. That placed them all in a serious bind. Most people dont understand how the business works. When you're an artist and you have contracts out there. Some of those legal bind you to certain deals. That's sometimes based upon all 4 members if that's the way it's set up. By Mike not showing up being flacky with performances. That caused them a lot. They had to endure lawsuits and people being upset when they would do shows. Having to constantly explain to their fans what was what. That was very difficult. So I understand as to why they made that decision to move on from Mike. Its businesses they couldn't keep on taking chances of him one day showing up. The next he's missinf for months. Then pops back up, ready to perform. There was too much inconsistency going on for them. As far as Mikes health condition, we all understood that. However, they needed to move on. Mike was not willing to do the work. Only when it was convenient for him. Nate, as the leader, made a great judgment call. Most might not agree, but they did what was best. We may not understand it. But this is their careers and livelyhood that was on the line. At the end of the day. I believe that if Mike wants to be back in the group. He could, but he must be willing to sit down. Have a conversation like a man. Be willing to address his wrongs. These guys are easy to get along with. They just have a zero tolerance for nonsense, especially Nate. He does not do bs or childish behavior what so ever. He's about business and making the right moves. Wanya is just silly and very playful. Still growing up and figuring out things. Shawn is just constant in every way he possibly can be. They are not perfect, but they are very humble, sweet, and kind guys. At the end of it all. We can say this and thag. But how would most of us feel if we were walking in their shoes?
@@sportscentral4905 First of all....the didn't cut him off for monetary reasons.....if you really knew what happened. You would know that after 97-99 when the group started declining in tour and record sales...Mike started missing shows...all Anybody knew was he had back problems, which is why he walked with a cane.....he never disclosed that he had M.S until he went on Izyana Fix My Life show. Where he admitted that he kept that a secret from everybody. Including the group AND his own WIFE. An ailment that Walter Williams of The Ojays has by the way and still continues to perform today. When Boyz II Men still had shows he was missing them and nearly got sued TWICE....then they got big tour in Japan he all of a sudden wanted to tour...and THAT'S when they kicked him out in 2003.....they were going through the trenches of trying to rebuild and he wasn't there...then they come up ready for their 20th anniversary...invite him back...abd be starts saying he deserves all of this money when he wasn't even around while the other's kept going...so no brotherhood has no malice...what they said was the truth. Know the back story first!!!
Black Russian models have worked the run way for Centuries. PRes. PUTIN asked me to be his friend naturally as Russian Jews have given detailed intel to Americans for fashioneasters. I have dated a Czech so remember sports and music makes the worlds seamless worlds.
shawn really..mimic...u are so not boys2men without michael...u guys dissed one of u...it shows how u worked with him all these years..i lost my respect too...
but in Michael's Iyanla interview he himself said he didn't tell them of his exact health woes. that's cause for problems because now when promoters book you expecting four and three show up that's cause for litigation. he himself said he withdrew as soon as the health issues started. he was still getting money even while not performing/touring/recording with them... if you're in a group full disclosure is necessary is it not? how should the rest of them feel? if someone started acting "left" towards you without proper explanation and there's a business involved would you not officially distance yourself too? they were fair.
It's cause of the Extra lights that are in the room that we don't see I used to say the same thing, and then I found out why they do it's just to protect there eyes.
I can’t stand Shawn!!!! His ego is cringeworthy. They should have worked with their brother Michael wow! I hope none of them have to experience the pain of health issues. MS is nothing easy to deal with
I've always admired BoyzIIMen, but that attitude that everyone has talked about over the years has showed up when Shawn explained Mike's role in the group. Really disappointing to witness.
Love them. Just saw them tonight in Windsor, On. 🇨🇦
RIP-Larry King.
💘 Me some Boyz II Men I grew up listen to them still 💘 them
I saw them in concert. I had a VIP pass bc my daddy was their lighting engineer. I took a picture with them. I was 16 at the time. Damn I wish I could go back to that moment. Thanks dad. RIP
shawns explanation of michael's role in the group is exactly why he left..humans are born with a sixth sense and michael knew it all along
Shawn lied and the other two support him..... I'm disappointed.
@@neomalapane7428 EXACTLY SHAWN AND MIKE HAD GOTTEN INTO A FIGHT THAT SHAWN PROVOKE. HE KICKED MIKE OUT OF THE GROUP, MIKE HAVE DONE WRONG IN WAYS TRUE BUT THEY'RE NOT INNOCENT EITHER.
LIES LIES LIES UOU CAN SEE BY THEY'RE BODY LANGUAGE THEY'RE NOT INNOCENT AT ALL.
Amen.
Right, noticed that by body language from all three during presentation of their Boyz 2 Men STAR with Mike present on stage in 2012. But this interview, confirms all… Sean had serious issues with him, from his response, as if Mikes vocal (bass) wasn’t really needed, didn’t matter far the overall group sound.. irrelevant after recording on all their biggest record album.. would love to get all those record producers (Jamm & Lewis, Baby Face…) true perspectives.. in my opinion the original group member Sean Stockton is the one easiest replaceable in the group and would not be missed, had no uniqueness, vocally but harmonized well… Mike brought a form of stage presence and the superior bass ingredient needed and fans loved to hear.. now the missing ingredient to their hit formula and the others (Sean, Wanya, Nate) know it’s what’s missing to this day, 20 years (2003) after his departure from the bestselling 90’s R&B male group..so why did Mike leave !? But there is an old saying “you health is your wealth” so Mike made right decision… looking at S. Stockton especially going forward 😏💭
Them singing at a funeral adds a whole new meaning to the End Of The Road.
living legends
YES
Larry was one great interviewer, R.I.P.
I've brought my 11 year old daughter into Boys 2 Men. She loves them!
I love boyz to men FOREVER
We all do. Guaranteed ✊🏾💯💯💯💯
Great interview with great questions.
They killed the interview when they shade Mike by calling him a MIMIC
And everyone saying they have lost respect for Boyz II Men for dissing Mike. You have to understand, when Mike was in the group he was missing shows, they would have to do the shows with 3 people when the 4 of them were advertized. Mike's job was really to do the "speaking" parts. Nate was always capible of singing Mike's part, and like they said Nate did most of Mike's work but never got the credit. They went through all sorts of hell with Mike and to expect them to kiss his a$$ now that he's gone, and had been gone at that time for 12 years is asking entirely too much.
Let them tell the truth about Mike- no sugar coating it.
Yeah. He is really missed, but whatever went down really only the 4 of them know it and they have really tried to put it to rest and keep going. Yes, is not the same without MIKE but they have managed to do it without him. I just can't believe after all this years, they are not all together. I know he is better now I guess he took care of his illnes
That's what 'they said' however Mike's voice was critical to the original sound. I am the listener. They shaded and abandoned him, so wrong, because he was one of them. Sad how they treated him. A real friend is one who sticks with you to the end.
Boyz to men shaded Mike Shawn call him a mimic
Right not to mention they continued to pay Mike even when he wasnt showing up for concerts, rehearsals then he stopped answering their calls and his door so what were they suppose to do besides move. foreward
@@sonyaprince6786 Mike admit on the Iyanla show he went into a deep depression that caused him to be distant from his group mates. They're grown men know I wanna see some hand shakes, Mike may have did wrong in ways but they're not innocent themselves.
They know they were feeling themselves when they were young😆
In my opinion R&B officially died in 2007, of that classic R&B sound. 2008 to present it's evolved into an amalgamation of all sounds and styles; Lo-fi (aka chillwave), that spaced out/ethereal the weeknd sounding stuff, PBR&B, etc.
It died before 2007.
I said it died after 2003
@@timroberson1215 2007 still had great songs that encapsulated the authentic sound.
It began to die in the 80's actually when bands started to disappear & turn tables & computer sounds replaced real instruments
Great to see THESE GENTLEMEN are still around . This is a tough business. Alot of artists we see now will not be around in another 5 years from now .
Rest in peace Larry King
I am from Philadelphia we lov the group after mike left it was mens to boys who
R. I. P larry king
Great interview.
Larry king is mad funny love his interviews style
They blew up after Babyface wrote end of the road and then produced their second album with several hits.
So Mike didn't leave for health reasons after all. Glad we cleared that up.
Jennifer Tan he did left for health problems but inner fighting as well. He just wanted more money which is not realistic because he left the group about 13 years ago
I wish him the best
@@stephanadkins8254 is an equal share more money? I don't think so.
Mike contributed.....it would not have been the same without Mike
@@riod7559 Right they're telling lies in 106& park telling all kinds of stories. In 106&park Shawn Stockman said they let Mike go and be with his family cause he have SCOLIOSIS. Shawn Stockman said in the Bio Channel he kicked him out of the GROUP. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE with Mike.
24:44😂😂😂
22:43
He was ready to lie.
Getting Michael McCary to get back with BoyzIIMen, is almost as hard as getting Lauryn Hill to record with Wyclef and Pras again. Oh, how I wish pigs could fly...but....wait a minute.... Pigs do fly.......they're called Pigeons. THERE'S HOPE, PEOPLE!!!! THERE'S HOPE!!!!!
John Bull 😂😂😂
Every ones throwing all the SHADE on MIKE he may have did wrong in ways, but they're not INNOCENT EITHER.
All four of Boyz II Men are wrong.
@@celestematthews3266 What did you expect the other guys to do? Just stop singing?
People in this thread saying they lost respect for these guys, because Mike kept secrets and wasn't dedicated like they were. Smh. So do you all think David Ruffin was done wrong by The Temptations for his actions? Smh
That part right there!!! At the end of the day, mouths had to be fed and bills had to be paid!!!
Actually I do feel like the tempts did david wrong lol. Otis has a tendency of telling his story how he seen it but maybe wasnt actually how it happened. Now david definitely had his demons but he wasnt the only one in the group that did. And boyz 2 men got greedy. They wanna say oh he left so when he came bk he wanted more money and he didnt deserve it because he didnt go through what we had to go thru during the rough years. Most of what they went through were because of them and getting too cocky and people didnt want to work with them anymore and they thought they could do it all alone. That man is an original member. He should be paid what yall are getting paid. No matter how many years he was away. That's just my opinion but I still respect yours and see where you are coming from whole heartedly
@@liberalview6729 I ABSOLUTELY AGREE with you on that, they're not INNOCENT EITHER.
@@liberalview6729 hmmm got ya but what they didn't say (to preserve his image) is that at a point in time he was promoting shows saying Boyz II Men will be appearing/performing when in fact it was him trying to gain money off the brand. Also if you saw the interview on Iyanla he himself said he didn't tell them about his illness - if you think about it him doing that opens the rest of them up to litigation (misrepresentation, breach of contract - because 4 people were slated, not 3) so it kinda makes sense for them to distance themselves from him for a bit until he gets his own affairs sorted
Mimicking? Copy? wow, just plain trying to make Mike irrelevant. Man, That man's voice was your signature.
Signature? Really? A deep voice that you could barely understand sometimes was the "signature" over Wanya's vocals? That's insane!
@@wrenchworth They were never the same. In an interview, Shawn talked about how Mike leaving was one of the most difficult obstacles they had to overcome. Their sound and appearance changed, their whole aura was switched up! So, yeah. He gave them that signature Boyz II Men sound I fell in love with.
@@wrenchworth HATERS
EXACTLY
@@wrenchworth You are insane. Ever heard of Barry White? Freaking millennial.
They are still in Vegas 2019....
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Hello Carletta, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the Virus??
It's a pure lie if you say Mike's absence or voice is not missed in the group or your production!Even of his work is that of mimicking what Nate laid out for him,his bass is still very superb and natural....we your fans would tell you nothing but the truth, Michael Bass Michael is surely. missed in Boyziimen!
Mike is missed in the sound, but not really the production. Nate would actually write and produce all of Mike's parts.
He's really only missed for stage sound, and a capella.
@@CharlieXFBA And Recording studio!
@@eljames2011 Not quite the studio. Nate can actually sing those bass notes, as he is the one who actually wrote Mike's basslines.
@@CharlieXFBA of course but at the end Mikes Bass lines is unique
@@eljames2011 I agree. That's why his performances are missed ON STAGE primarily. Because there's nothing like a true 4 piece live harmony AND because when Mike was healthy, it made for a better overall show.
But as far as studio work, Mike isn't needed as much.
The reason for the Boyz ii Men decline was NOT because of Mike's departure. It was because of the rise of white boy bands like 86 Degrees, Nsync, Backstreet Boys, etc.
Whether Mike remained in the group or not, Boyz ii men would've suffered the same fate.
"In the BEGINNING..." "BOYZ II MEN DISCOVERED THEIR MUSICAL 🎼 😍 ♥️ JOURNEY...." "LOL!" THE STRANGEST THING IS...THE JOURNEY HASN'T STOPPED!!!" "THEY ARE, BY FAR, THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
"THEY ARE AMAZING!" 👏 😍 "KEEP that wonderful MUSIC 🎶 🎵 traveling through our HEARTS.... " 💕 💞 ♥️
My favourite male group. I can listen to them any day.
Can someone explain to me why people wear shades indoors? 🤔
I guess it's there style but I agree shades off
For Fashion hun……or to hide red eyes 😂
U feel good
They're still as amazing now as they were 20 years ago! I bought the Evolution album in 1998, when I was 14 years old. It was when I started listening to (R&B) music. That album has so much nostalgia to it, it's unreal. I think there's much more to the story about Michael than that. I don't think they're in contact with him and they must've fallen out quite badly. I heard some rumours about him getting violent, hence why he was kicked out. Who knows...
IT'S MORE TO THE STORY ON THE BIO CHANNEL SHAWN AND MIKE HAD GOTTEN INTO A FIGHT. IT WAS AT WANYA'S HOUSE MIKE WAS LEAVING OUT SHAWN WAS ARRIVING AND MIKE SAID SHE YALL IN JAPAN, SHAWN SAID TO MIKE YOUR NOT GOING TO JAPAN. MIKE SAID SHAWN KEPT GOING ON WITH IT HE SAID ITS NOT THAT SERIOUS UNTIL MIKE LOST IT AND JACK SHAWN AGAINST THE WALL. SHAWN SAID MIKE YOUR OUT OF THE GROUP, THEYRE SAYING MIKE KEFT THE GROUP LIES.
So had ultimately, they didn't need Mike. I think poor communication caused alot of this. Mike had a responsibility to tell his business and bandmates he had MS. He didn't do that. He just said he had back issues. Until they get In one room together the story will always be different. But I dont think they hate each other. Mike is with them when they get presented awards.
One Love Fam...
" A coin that was phrased " Lmao !!!!!
Good interview
Ok this is 6y old now... But understanding the pain he was in from his scoliosis and hearing them say he just doesn't want to work is very difficult to hear... But now finding out he has MS... (Understanding he never told them) it's very disheartening to watch... Pain all the way around.
pretty good interview.Well done host and guests.
Nate is the brains of the group; you can tell. Funny that Larry King asked if he was the leader.
11:09
The arrogance 😂
Larry listing the hits sounded lik a sentence lol...
@3:06 tell me he's not a mix of David Ruffin and Eddie Kendricks... i dare you, lmao. B2M fan for life!
He does resemble both a little
boyz II mean! I thought this group are bigger than just collecting money. how do you minimize the role former member as just auxiliary. he actually gives the music style
Ras Ras is also
He just had a deep voice. You sometimes couldn't even understand what he was saying.
@@wrenchworth Lies
AGREED
Facts
Priceless interview!
ABSOLUTELY AGREE with you on that
Bullshyt mchammer got his records out b4 Capitol records came and got that major bonus and put 2gether
Used to loved these guys. Now I cannot get into any of their songs old and new. 😳
ASHAME 😥
They evolved and left you...Boyz II MEN
@@TruthBTold- Ashamed
@@celestematthews3266 🤷🏾♂️
Shade on Michael. So sad.
Banky Biggs they hate michael
@@angeljohnson6665 Hope they can get it together
@@angeljohnson6665 They're to old for all of the grammar and I thought they was mature enough.
I feel they could have represented Mike a lot better. I understand they had to move on and it was a difficult decision. But Mike was there when they were most successful. They don't have to downplay him like that. And according to multiple people that worked with them, including them in their VH1 behind the Music their egos led to their demise in some ways. But I appreciate them , for the amazing Music they brought us throughout the 90s 💯
Mike sold himself short really. Not every guy in a group is going to give 100 percent. It's pretty clear that from the beginning Mike was that guy. If you check the credits on their first album, Mike co-wrote / wrote not one song. The other three contributed to writing at least three songs, with Nate writing / co-writing seven. If you cannot glean any sense of the individual ambition and work ethic of the members from that ... then you're just not swift.
Boyz II Men are artists and performers. It's a business, and when Mike chooses to know longer. Show up for concerts & performances. That placed them all in a serious bind. Most people dont understand how the business works. When you're an artist and you have contracts out there. Some of those legal bind you to certain deals. That's sometimes based upon all 4 members if that's the way it's set up. By Mike not showing up being flacky with performances. That caused them a lot. They had to endure lawsuits and people being upset when they would do shows. Having to constantly explain to their fans what was what. That was very difficult. So I understand as to why they made that decision to move on from Mike. Its businesses they couldn't keep on taking chances of him one day showing up. The next he's missinf for months. Then pops back up, ready to perform. There was too much inconsistency going on for them. As far as Mikes health condition, we all understood that. However, they needed to move on. Mike was not willing to do the work. Only when it was convenient for him. Nate, as the leader, made a great judgment call. Most might not agree, but they did what was best. We may not understand it. But this is their careers and livelyhood that was on the line. At the end of the day. I believe that if Mike wants to be back in the group. He could, but he must be willing to sit down. Have a conversation like a man. Be willing to address his wrongs. These guys are easy to get along with. They just have a zero tolerance for nonsense, especially Nate. He does not do bs or childish behavior what so ever. He's about business and making the right moves. Wanya is just silly and very playful. Still growing up and figuring out things. Shawn is just constant in every way he possibly can be. They are not perfect, but they are very humble, sweet, and kind guys. At the end of it all. We can say this and thag. But how would most of us feel if we were walking in their shoes?
I mean I used to LOVE these guys but hearing the way they are speaking about their former member there is a level of respect lost on my part
I do not think that they said money they said they tried to reach out to him and come to the 20 yr reunion and he did not want to come .
H L Nielsen why cuz they told the truth
HL Nielsen, same here
Dillinghim film, they cut him off for monetary reasons. That's low down, plus he was sick. Whatever happened to brotherly love?
@@sportscentral4905 First of all....the didn't cut him off for monetary reasons.....if you really knew what happened. You would know that after 97-99 when the group started declining in tour and record sales...Mike started missing shows...all Anybody knew was he had back problems, which is why he walked with a cane.....he never disclosed that he had M.S until he went on Izyana Fix My Life show. Where he admitted that he kept that a secret from everybody. Including the group AND his own WIFE. An ailment that Walter Williams of The Ojays has by the way and still continues to perform today. When Boyz II Men still had shows he was missing them and nearly got sued TWICE....then they got big tour in Japan he all of a sudden wanted to tour...and THAT'S when they kicked him out in 2003.....they were going through the trenches of trying to rebuild and he wasn't there...then they come up ready for their 20th anniversary...invite him back...abd be starts saying he deserves all of this money when he wasn't even around while the other's kept going...so no brotherhood has no malice...what they said was the truth. Know the back story first!!!
I wish the got a new bass singer
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ummm.........ok
shawn really..mimic...u are so not boys2men without michael...u guys dissed one of u...it shows how u worked with him all these years..i lost my respect too...
al sith Shawn wasn’t saying it as a “diss,” & they all wanted him to come back to perform with them but he denied it! They don’t hate him.
What are you talking about? They didn't diss Mike. People really need to understand the whole story. Goodness gracious!
I can’t stand Shawn omg
@@saginevital-herne3750 Yes he did
@@ForeverLuckyLika Backing Bate up to make himself look good
I think they threw Mike under the bus!!
They lying!
It’s impossible to mimick a bass part.
Shady… that’s all I got.
They don’t like Mike. That’s why I never gave them shows. If they bring michael back then I can put them on a tour.
I believe they loved Mike when they first got together they said out there own mouth they all was fighting and had to get used to each other.
but in Michael's Iyanla interview he himself said he didn't tell them of his exact health woes. that's cause for problems because now when promoters book you expecting four and three show up that's cause for litigation. he himself said he withdrew as soon as the health issues started. he was still getting money even while not performing/touring/recording with them...
if you're in a group full disclosure is necessary is it not? how should the rest of them feel? if someone started acting "left" towards you without proper explanation and there's a business involved would you not officially distance yourself too? they were fair.
NIA
I hate it when people, especially grown people, wear sunglasses when they're inside.
It's cause of the Extra lights that are in the room that we don't see I used to say the same thing, and then I found out why they do it's just to protect there eyes.
I can’t stand Shawn!!!! His ego is cringeworthy. They should have worked with their brother Michael wow! I hope none of them have to experience the pain of health issues. MS is nothing easy to deal with
True Shawn was just mimicking and defending Nathan whatever Nathan says he follows.
Guys, how could you play down your on friends, maybe wasn’t real relationship. I’m so disappointed with you. You should be so shame on you selves.👎🏽
Larry with the usual cringe-tastic questions for his guests.
Shawn😒😒😒
And one more thing Larry... All this nonsense about your wife "singing" at the Mirage-
Was she the featured artist? How long was her residency? Gtfoh.
R&B Is dead and Buried
I've always admired BoyzIIMen, but that attitude that everyone has talked about over the years has showed up when Shawn explained Mike's role in the group.
Really disappointing to witness.
Yeah. I'm not ok with that. It was harsh af.
Michael was the weakest link anyways
Donta Gaten why though he was cool
He was my fav!
Mike brought the bas and had the ladies on their feet.
@@angeljohnson6665 Right
Mike was the weakest link????? Oh my gosh! Do you even isten to Boyz 2 Men? For crying out loud....
" A coin that was phrased " Lmao !!!!!