The Story of Boyz II Men | Why One Member Left & Never Came Back, Inflated Egos, Personal Drama
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- Опубліковано 14 бер 2023
- In the early '90s, rap was huge. Then came four boys from Philly who wanted to sing. They called themselves Boyz II Men.
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You wanna talk about some talent? These brothers didn’t just sing, THEY SAAAAANG!!
They had their time in the sun. No one really wants to listen to them anymore
Gifts from God
@@BillBiggs1people still listen to them. I’m one of them. They make music Iike this anymore.
Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men's One Sweet Day is a timeless classic collaboration!!
Michael was such an important piece to B2M. His bass voice was crucial for “Water Runs Dry” and “Can You Stand the Rain”
New Edition sings Can You Stand the Rain
@@lizzybethnj617 I know, B2M version is far superior
@@Hains22 IDK about that. They (BIIM) are the better singers overall groupwise but Ralph and Johnny voices go together much better on that song...and Ricky too.
Yessss
@@lizzybethnj617 boyz II men covered it in 97 though.
It’s unfortunate this group let fame and fortune go to their head, because they are really talented. they’re definitely one of my favorite R&B groups ever.
Michael left because of Multiple Sclerosis which can present itself as sciatica or severe back pain and is difficult to diagnose which probably caused confusion and embarrassment. The other group members said Michael wasn't transparent about his health.
They wer to young with millions so is not easy
@@monocomo1675 and felt rushed
@@monocomo1675not just money but huuuge fame. They were incredibly famous at that time.
So much talent yet fame did a number on them. They were NEVER the same after Michael left. 😔 Alot of great Boyz II Men classics including the touching duet with Mariah Carey-One Sweet Day. ❤️
I hate it when egos get in the way of a real good thing.
I STILL hold out hope for Mike to return one day. He was my biggest musical inspiration in high school. Made being a bass, cool!
Michael was supposed to come back but he was demanding more money than the group felt he deserved after being absent so many years from the group
Fix the issues with Michael. He was young, had health issues, was married, let's be serious he had A LOT going on. Forgive each other and move forward. The FOUR of you are hands down one of the TOP FIVE R&B groups EVER!!! GET IT TOGETHER!!
True…it’s just not the same without Michael
Michael wasn't just suffering from from pain he also put his hands on Shawn. They did have negotiations of Michael coming back to the group but he wanted more money than they were willing to pay after being absent so many years
The CAN YOU STAND THE RAIN acapella cover they did on their third album was outstanding! I love it just as much as New Edition’s. They did an acapella version to ONE SWEET DAY too.
I thought I was the only one who loved their version more than New Edition’s 😭💕
@@alysssabear the harmony in their voices in that version!! The original was romantic and Boys II Men’s version is haunting(in a good way)!!!
@@AmoMe2009 exactly I agree perfect description.
One of the best R&B groups. A lot of their songs are timeless.
So Shawn saying Michael wasn’t as passionate about music because of his health issue and being in pain is unfair … I don’t like that at all
I agree. I have chronic long term pain in my back, and a hip problem that will mean I’ll need a hip replacement at some point (and eventually put me in a wheelchair), so I can see where Michael was coming from, and I understand completely. Shawn doesn’t seem to realise that kind of pain is really distracting at times. If only he could spend just one day in Michael’s shoes, he might be a bit more understanding.
I was mentally screaming HE'S SICK AND IN PAIN...sheesh!
@@Tinaf653This!!
After finishing this video I was gonna say the same thing. The hell with Shawn for saying that stupid shit. I hope for Micheal the best and as much good health as possible. an illness is no joke
I struggled with a painful chronic illness my whole life. It’s easy for the young and healthy to be callous and dismissive about your pain and suffering. It’s only now that we’re older, and some of them have their own afflictions, they are sorry and they finally understand.
“I didn’t like them anymore”
Dallas reason is so simple and to the point. 🤣🤣🤣
That was a dumb move though. I'm not going to turn down a million dollar contract because I have a personal problem against some people. Hey, that's me lol
Dallas probably saw how two face the group were (except for Micheal)
@@daibm5392 not everybody sells themselves for so cheaply.
@@pa.encema2821 He still works right? You can't quit a job because you don't like someone...That's my point!
@@squarebear619 👆🏽 that part!
Babyface is an absolute beast with his amazing work with this band & many many others who made timeless music in the 90s. Thank you for the Boyz to Men documentary but for Babyface to pen some of their timeless songs is incredible to me🎶💯❤️
And they hated him and his songs 😩
I use to love Boys 2 men. Sadly I believe everything Dallas Austin claimed about Boys 2 Men. I will never forget back in the 90s me and my bestie seen Nathan in the mall/Champs shoe store. We went up to the bodyguard to ask if we could get an autograph. The bodyguard said no Nathan looked at us and turned his head didn't acknowledge or speak. I never supported Boys 2 Men after that. As a lil girl that really hurt my feelings looking back I understand why he didn't want to do autographs but it was just the way he acted towards us. Till this day I don't acknowledge or approach any celebrity.
Celebrities are human all groups have they issue I met jodeci one time & kc hailey scream at my freind because she wanted a picture with him KC hailey was very ignorant aswell I love jodeci I still love they songs but as a person probably not celebrities are human they where young
Boyz to men from philly that whole philly city has crazy additude problems
@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc I can believe it. That is what I was saying as an adult I understand it now because if he would have given us an autograph other people would have been asking too. He probably just wanted to be left alone to shop. That just taught me celebs are humans and never place them on a pedestal.
That's sad..I understand that celebrities are people but I met the singer Joe and he was such a sweetheart..I actually got to sing for him after which he hugged and kissed me..I wasn't tryna get signed or anything, I just wanted to sing to him since he probably gets asked to sing all the time..lol..
Wow, sorry about that happened to you. They seem so nice all the time; but you never know.
What an a-hole. I am glad you learned at some point these people are just...people. And they can be anything on any given day like your neighbor down the street. Just because they have public lives, and possibly more money, does not make them more special than anybody.
Boyz II Men also collaborated with LL Cool J on the song Hey Lover off LL Cool J's 6th album Mr. Smith
Chile I did not know the Dallas Austin mess and Babyface dig behind the scenes 😮😮😮 I respect Dallas’ honesty
This group is messier than a lot of R&B girl groups
😂no lies
Nah, Xscape is one group that is messy as hell
@@tionne4945 Lol but u expect them to be messy 1st of all they're females, & 2nd at least 2 of the members got pregnant at the height of their careers!!
I guess y'all didn't hear all the Debarge, New Edition, Jodeci, Guy and JE stories out there....lol
@@davidrichards6059 Particularly with the DeBarge family...ugh🤦♀️That is not messy, that is a downright filthy travesty.
Imagine if En Vogue and Boyz II Men did a Verzuz omg. One of my favorite groups 👏🏾.
That would be a good one!
That would make my childhood dreams come true 👍 ❤❤. Please make it happen!!!
En Vogue would win hands down 😂
What a wish
Battle of the Divas!
My favorite song of their's was Please Don't Go!!
That song was a classic
2 to me, Water Runs Dry and So Hard...
Keep these videos coming,but I would love to hear about some of the producers - darkchild, soulshock n karlin, Bangladesh, Shakespeare, devante, teddy Riley, Dallas austin- these were huge then seem to disappear….keep up the good work
"On Bended Knee" even the guys were breaking out the tissues.... yours truly!!!! 🤔😪💯🎶🎶🎶🖤💙❤️
A number of people have said they were very arrogant.
It's true
All of their songs are classics, but “End of the road” , “A song for mama “ and “I’ll
Make love to you “ will forever be the best songs ever. I still play them till this day .
Yes
I really hope that all four men can come back together again .... Not as a group, but to mend their old friendship.... Or all least to bring closure to everything. They were so good together
Boyz II Men also dropped their Christmas album Christmas Interpretations in 1993
Their rendition of Let It Snow is still my favorite Christmas song to this day!!
I met Wanyà and his wife in Vegas. They shared dinner with us, took us skating, had a party bus. They damn near took care of us down there. I wasn’t apart of his singing competition but they made me feel like I was. Best trip I had in years.
I met them a second time last year in Brooklyn, when they did the Mother’s Day show at the Barclays. Afterwards we went to a Caribbean restaurant and they paid for my dinner along with some others from his season II competition. Again the dopest people.
People are dynamic and human. We have our good and bad days. When we are young, we all have maturity issues. So for people to consistently bash another person or a group of people for minor things, you really need something to do. Thanks Amber and Wanyà! Thanks for show me so much love when y’all come to town.
Boyz II Men are legends
They could have been even bigger Legends if it wasn't for their ego.
The video for Boyz II Men's It's so Hard to Say Goodbye to Yesterday was dedicated to their labelmate rapper MC Trouble
Indeed. Celebrity Underrated confirmed this.
They are my ALL TIME favorite group. There will never be another group like this one.
Chronic back pain is not a joke. The pain can be debilitating. I experienced it 23 yrs ago. Thank God I am no longer suffering. 🙏
They KNOW they can SANG! Some of the best harmonies ever! Can you do a video about the girl group RichGirl or Kat DeLuna? Love watching!! Thank you!
Uhh Ahh sequel with the French lady is a classic slow jam
I agree.. That was🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Michael was right. And shawn confirmed it. They turned his back on him.
Stupid ass shawn trying to sound slick
They turned his back on him?? 😳🤔
@@tmcurly right I was like woah. My brain went in a whirlwind.
But how ?
@@lexkanyima2195 right
They say, never meet your idols- in this case, they’re are right!
I met the three remaining boyz just over 10 years ago and it was a huge disappointment. I paid to have a meet and greet and just wanted to tell them that I played a song for momma to my mum just three days before she died and how much their music meant to me over the last 20 years. Their response was silence wile they stood there with no smiles, no energy and no f@#ks to give. Biggest waste of $130 in my life, I still adore their music though!
Wow, I had no idea this group had so much drama!
Every r&b group has issues these people are human I'm not suprise
Oh yeah, but not surprising, actually goes deeper.
Same
We had no reality shows back then luckily for them
You should do a video job Charlie Wilson and The Gap Band 🔥
They also had a big big hit around the time that The Jacksons miniseries aired, "In the Still of The Night". The tune was a remake of a 1950's tune by The Five Satins. That's why Adina Howard didn't have hits after her mega hit, "Freak Like Me"--That's probably why Wanya went towards Adina, allegedly. She did a big no-no against Sylvia. Great video!
Yep. They did that cover nicely.
Out of the all the hundreds of time I seen series and never realized that was them..🤦🏾♂️😆
They are the definition of R&B
Boyz II Men have a lot of classic hits such as Motownphilly, End of the Road, Uhh Ahh, It's so Hard to Say Goodbye to Yesterday, I'll Make Love to You, Thank You, On Bended Knee, Water Runs Dry, A Song for Mama, 4 Seasons of Loneliness, Pass You By and many others!!!
Please don't go is on they album is a classic you should check that song out
@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc yes
@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc Alsk lonely heart
@@Butterflies515 yea I love lonely heart that song is a classic
“Dreams” is one of my favs along with the ones you named
It’s so hard to say goodbye actually peaked at #2 on the pop charts behind MJ’s Black or White
Questlove said they were rude when The Roots was trying to be their band
Love their music. But a few people said they had huge ego issues
They did, and it screwed them over in the long run. If babyface was still making their songs, they would have been mega stars.
@@alphonsejohnson5601 they were
They are MEAN. The only decent one was wanya and he barely talks.
Sylvia 'bloody' Rhone!!! Don't get me started!
On the topic of boyz to men, Wanya has 4 sons and they’re in a singing group called Wanmor. They’re incredible! Check em out if you love rnb. Great video like always
He does nothing for those boys..
@@Butterflies515 your point? I was talking about showing love and recognition to a very talented group of young men
They are quite talented. I have been hearing about and paying attention to them for a few years now but...from one of their videos I saw (Mine, I think it was) it seems the auto tune clonage machine is present and is jacking them of their natural sound. I swear mainstream is a mother! I hope they don't become casualties in the industry.
@@TheRetroWoman80 nah they sing live all the time. I’ve seen dozens of live performances by them. I wouldn’t go off the “mine” video personally
@@nexxlevel4590 No, that's my point. I knew that was what they were already doing. I meant why even go in the auto tune direction at all.
Money often causes big heads and or greed. I believe most groups start out as friends. Striving towards a similar goal, but something goes wrong which often causes estrangement. We miss out on greatness because of the bs. BTW: I’ve had back problems for over 40 years and it’s no joke. In other words we can’t get on like those who are limber.
You speak truth. I only hope you have true souls around you who have not bounced because you can't move or operate like a 20 year old jackrabbit. Nobody does that for all of their planetary years of living anyway.
@@TheRetroWoman80 i know a band who remain loyal
Money usually starts the problems
The 90s was a great years for Group R&B.....such as "Boyz Ii Men", "Next", "H-Town", "MoKenStef", " TLC", "Brownstone", "Total", "112" & "Mint Condition"....I hate to sound like my grand dad but R&B of my era (The 70's, The 80's & the 90'e) did sing about love or getting to romance that popular girl you always wanted....Now today's "R&B " isn't the same ... But never less, every era has its moments......
❤️🔥🔥🧊🔥❤️🔥🧊🔥❤️🔥🧊
I use to like them but they are one of the MEANEST groups I ever met, and I met a few!
I liked their song from one of their later albums,"Doin just fine", played the hell out that song. Me and my brother both bought the one with all their names on it. Surprised the sells was so low.
Treach, Craig Mack, Busta Rhymes, and Method Man appeared on the remix to Boyz II Men's song Vibin
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Whew the 90’s was so competitive and messy lol
It is a circus
Boyz II Men also performed On Bended Knee on New York Undercover season 1 episode 9 The Friendly Neighborhood Dealer
I was in 3rd grade when they came out and once I was graduating in 2001 high school they was starting to all off. I can remember 4 seasons being their last big hit.
Shawn Stockman's song Hot Thing was heard in the movie Seventeen Again starring Tia, Tamera and Tahj Mowry
He did three songs for that movie and they all slapped.
And also props to Lionel C. Martin AKA the Vid Kid for directing Boyz II Men's earlier music videos
I use to see these guys all the time when I was young but never knew they was making moves like they did. I would see them jump into jeeps and just be out. I was friends with 1 of them when I was young. I like these guys and still listen to them.
I was 19 when their first album dropped and I bought it. I can't believe I am now 50 and that album is still as fresh as it was when I bought it.
Love these stories so much
They still tour and have a massive fan base. I think they are doing great.
Their cd Boyz 2 Men was the first cd I got as a kid. I loved listening to their vocals. Their music always brings back memories of my childhood.
Thanks for this. I grew up in the early 90s and my mom was obsessed with them!!
My dad grew up with wanya morris in Philadelphia Richard allen projects
Nice
Cool !
I just knew that you all would mention Wanye's sons and their singing group. While I know of the Brandy and Adina (The Boy is Mine Feud), I just didn't think it would be mentioned in this video.
One of the best r and b groups ever!!!
One of my favorite groups!! ❤️❤️
This is a very great story today keep more coming
I had a chance to see wanye and Shawn crash jo koy show in San Diego..what a cool moment it was.... 😎 I hope the best for them especially Mike bless his heart.
I wish the music industry cared enough about R&B to put a real budget behind finding another even REMOTELY close to this. The last R&B group we cared about what who!? Day26 ? Smh
God bless Boyz II Men.
The sad part of this video is the beginning. The 3 (Shawn, Waylan, and Nate) already felt their group was complete without Mike. So him getting sick later and not being “present” as Shawn says is telling. I’m sorry, they knew he had back issues, and felt he was present enough. Had he been drugged out, they would they claim “It was his drug use that brought us down. It’s a business, we had too part ways.” Naw, what this sounds like are 3 brothers who started singing together, decided that THEY would always be ‘Boys II Men’ and everyone else will be treated as a “removable” member. Cause Sorry NOT Sorry, it’s not BOYS II MEN without Mike!! It was HIS vocals along with the others that grabbed my attention. Damn!!
well on Iyanla's show he clearly stated that he knew and did not tell them about his illness.
Think about it: at the height of their career you're falling sick, the group is missing shows because of your absence (which by the way opens them up to litigation because breach of contract), when you are there they accommodate you by all using walking sticks so you don't stand out .... and during ALLLLL that time never once you clearly state what was goin on with you? As a unit and a brand it was quite frankly in their best interest to let him go. Look, even after offering to have him return to tour but under contract that he had to stick around HE CHOSE not to do it. how would that have been fair to the others? gotta look at it from a business perspective #MyLil2Cents
The reason this doesn't hit is the fact that Marc Nelson is Nathan's best friend and a Original member. He's gone. Some things don't work. Both sides had their stories and maybe it was a little of both.
Mike had his health issues but he was also missing shows and he also got into a physical fight with Shawn
They haven't sound the same since he left
1:39
What a turn of events 😂😂😂
Will smith sneaking backstage to perform for will smith.
But on an episode of The Fresh prince, it was Will who snuck backstage to talk to boyz 2 men.
Visions Of A Sunset is one of the most beautiful songs ever written
I love your content so damn much. Am I tripping or was the channel called something else? Maybe it was a logo change? Idk man. I might be losing it.
It was “Let’s Get To The Root”
@@FaridaDawkinsYY you are the real MVP. Thank you!
One of the best groups of all time!
i love love boys 2 men,best RnB group.u guys are my favourite love from Kenya.
Please do a video on ( Az Yet ) if you haven't already. Thank you for the great work.
Boys II Men seriously deserve a biopic.
They'll have to tell it all. Shawn cheated on his wife.
@@keepsit100atalltime9 I didn’t know Shawn cheated on his wife.
@@ShardaeCotton Yep. I just recently found up. Idk if you listen to Tasha K but one of the ladies was on her show before.
@@keepsit100atalltime9 I need to check that out.
@@ShardaeCotton Yeah it's an older video. It's crazy, too bc she said it's some kind of religion that they were involved in that ok'd their relationship.
My dad went to school with them. He says they were always down to earth ❤
Do bobby Caldwell
❤❤❤❤ thank you
I LOVE LOVE LOVE your commentary💕 this and RRG are my go tos for celebrity pop culture ❤
Same here 👍🏾💯💪🏾
@@Official_Kings_Versus yesss I am entertained and enlightened all at the same time ❤️‼️💪🏾
@@kejones7324 😎😎😎
I’ve been a fan since I was 1, literally. I have as a little girl and begged my mom to send a letter out to their fan club and got a autographed picture from all 4 members. I was so excited! Lol but I can see their arrogance. They’re an amazing group. But after II, the music didn’t hit like it used too. Also, Nathan wrote songs as well. He wrote for Case on his first album. The song is called “I think of you.” And you can hear him singing background. He seems to be the one with the most level headed but what do I know. Lol
Their Manager that Killed looked like the Big Dude from The Mr. Telephone Man video/New Editions Body guard?? ++ how did His Murderer Only get 14yrs?? 🤨
🌟✨Learning the behind-the-scenes happenings that I didn't know about these groups through these videos really makes me not like them as people a lot of the times. So many of them turn out to be just bad people. Really unlikeable in my opinion.✨🌟
All r&b groups had they issues jodeci aswell it doesn't bother me these guy's are human no different when we not nice to everyone I don't put high Hope's into celebrities anymore I never did no celebrity are very nice
I love how people like to forget that celebrities are people. At the end of the day they deserve the same amount of respect as you would give anybody else and if you wouldn’t just run up on a stranger and shove a camera in their face or paper and a pen and ask for an autograph and why would you do that to a celebrity it’s interesting how people want celebrities to have respect for them and sign autographs and you don’t have respect for that celebrity. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve been at a restaurant and seen a celebrity with their family trying to have dinner and fans just run up on them and they’re shoving their cameras in their face to take selfies and they’re grabbing on them and you know that’s disrespectful and it would make anybody lose their temper it would make anybody standoffish. There’s a reason that most celebrities have autographed sightings where it’s a designated time for you to get an autograph and you know shoving a camera in someone’s face while they’re walking their child in the school building is just as disrespectful people need to have the same energy
@@felicia3841 🌟✨I don't know if this ridiculous comment is directed at me, because I'm not forgetting no one, celebrity or not, are just people. That's my point, THEY seem to forget they're just people, and have a tendency to become major assholes when they get a little bit of celebrity and notoriety.
The way they treated a member of their own group when he became sick, the way they treated other people who helped them with their first album, to the point where people no longer want to work with them. They're assholes who forgot they're human like everyone else.
They're the ones who prove they don't deserve respect because they refuse to give it to others simply because they become famous. For me, their actions prove them to be less than regular people, because if you met a normal person on the street who treated others who helped them, worked with them, liked and admired them the way a lot of these celebrities treat the people who helped them get to where they are, they'd be labeled assholes and pieces of shit, which is exactly what I'm labeling these people.
I'm not affected by people's celebrity because they can sing, dance, play sports, whatever the case may be, and I do hold them to the same standard I hold people who don't excel at those things, which is why it's disheartening to hear that they seem to think themselves above others, which again, is why I say I don't like them as PEOPLE! They are in fact, assholes.✨🌟
Considering that you responded to a post that was not at you or directed towards you I will respond and kind. That being said the entertainment industry is a business, you do not get to decide that you’re not gonna come to shows that you’re not going to perform and that you are not going to work. If you make the decision to keep your medical condition and the severity of it a secret from the members of your group then you do not look professional. And if you decide that you are not going to inform them then in response you were fired for missing shows not performing and not being a equal member of the group. That is not a betrayal that is business with the entertainment industry is a business. And the member in question has admitted himself that he did not inform the members of his group of the severity of his medical condition that is on him not on them. What brotherhood was he showing to his members when he did not inform them of his medical condition and the severity of it. Also they were young men when their first album came out and men have egos that is nothing new to be held accountable for that 30odd years later is ridiculous flat out ridiculous.
Yep....truth sometimes isn't pretty but it is always necessary. At least that is what I believe.
Saw them with Stephen Colbert and they still got it!
I was young when they came out, but I definitely remember their music throughout the years. Never thought they dealt with any drama behind the scene. They seemed to had it all together unlike New Edition. Still my favorite boy group.
P.S. Michael Soo Fine
this is 😮...I always thought Boyz 2 Men were the drama free good boys of r&b compared to jodeci, the bad boys of r&b. 😅 God Bless Them.
I never knew Wanye and Nathan Morris wasn't related. Lls wow, learn something new everyday!
We need to show more of the love we all love to hear and sing about. All of us.
I'M STILL IN LOVE WITH WANYA TIL THIS VERY DAY!
one of my fav groups of all times hands down
they need to tone down the ego tho lol
I always wonder if Marc Nelson regrets not being with Boyz to mean.
I remember their 2009 album named Love which featured covers of legendary 1980's songs like Journey's Open Arms and Cyndi Lauper's Time After Time
Whew my Men!!! 🥰🥰🥰
4 seasons of loneliness is my shit and legit snow
One colab i wish we could have gotten would be Hi Five and B2M..... That would have been 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@7:20 Signing that distribution deal with Sony is what killed their careers.
And their coming to South Africa this November.Hope the do musical justice to us
Sinto falta do grupo composto pelos quatro membros!!!
My favorite group