John Lennox has wonderful insights and great wisdom. He explains complex ideas with a great deal of common sense and sometimes humor. God always outsmarts both critics and the devil.
Nah using religion to try and argue against Transhumanism is futile, technology will march on like it has done since the birth of our species. Technology predates any religion by hundreds of thousands of years.
💗 The level of dexterity demonstrated by philosophical insight, sensitivity, and tact of this man; are astounding. His reasoning leaving all without excuse before God and man. 🧠 Can A.i do that? 🕳
The problem with having the knowledge of good and evil is one can then choose which he prefers, some will choose evil and we all get to suffer its consequences.
No. U do not understand what you are talking about. Evil is a word made up by cultists. People murder out of stupidity and irrationality. A basin of infinite knowledge will provide a rationalizing affect. DONT LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO SPEAK IN FRONT OF A CAMERA. READ SCIENTIFIC PAPERS. STUDY PSYCHOLOGY, CRIMINOLOGY, ETC
The thing that terrifies me with the thought of "mind upload" or "mind backup" is the fact that it would not include your soul/spirit, so what you would end up with in the end is not a continuation of yourself, but rather a dead/unconscious copy of your person at the time of death. To everyone around this entity it would appear to be you, but it's not, it's a dead copy of you, an idol of yourself if you will. This idol would pass the turing test so to speak, and appear to be you to the people around it, your consiusnes wouldn't be it it.
I agree with Matt West: Professor Lenox is a treasure. ...and speaking of immortality... Revelation 9:6 In those days, people will seek death but not find it, they will long to die but death will flee from them.
I do know one very important aspect of consciousness and that is that consciousness is co-eternal with God. Our individual consciousness or intelligence is eternal and is the core of our beings and our begetting as children of Father in Heaven.
So many things are wrong about A.I. discussions. First, and most importantly, we have to recognize the role of hubris in these speculations. It's hubris for man to think that he can create something he doesn't understand and can't define. The fact is that we are not particularly intelligent creatures. Our language is limited and insufficient to convey the most common and basic experiences. For example, we do not possess the ability to verbally communicate smells or sounds. Think about taking your car to the mechanic and trying to tell him what noise it's making. We do not have the ability to communicate vast swathes of experiential information, because we do not have the capacity to comprehend and retain a vocabulary sufficient to our need. Imagine the arrogance required to think that a programmer will be able to create an artificial mind. In order to create a machine to perform a task, one of the prerequisites is having a person who knows how to perform the task. That person must then also be able to either build the machine, or be able to communicate his requirements to someone who can figure out how to build it. With "A.I." it has definitely been demonstrated that none of the prerequisites have been met. Our most basic attempts to prove the concept have failed. For decades we have been trying to develop working auto-correct for typing. How often do we all experience an auto-correct failure? Self driving cars are a fantasy. As a society are not able to correct traffic congestion, not able to design legible street signs, or build efficient merging ramps. These are the most basic issues and we are not smart enough to solve them, yet we think we can tell a machine how to drive? Yeah... kay... As for facial recognition? Get out of here with that noise. Each of us has experienced mistaken identity. We've all walked up to a stranger and started talking to them because we failed at facial recognition. And do I need to point out that Google's "A. I." mislabeled people as gorillas? The fact is that A.I. is a scifi pipe dream. Sensible people can recognize that an HR manager is utterly unqualified to hire someone for a job if the HR manager doesn't understand the job. The same reasoning holds for making A.I. No programmer is going to be able to build a mind, because no programmer is smart enough to understand what intelligence IS, let alone smart enough to build a silicon brain. We all KNOW this is true. We all are forced to deal with the inadequacies of programmers daily. None of our technology lives up to the sales pitch.
Your points makes 0 sense you are underestimating Ai which many of us do recently a programming made an ai and told him to make an another ai and it was successful I mean there will be a point when Ai's will have the ability to make themselves and they will make much smarter and powerful ai's than we do they can create and learn new languages in seconds and scientists have already succeeded in creating sensors by which ai can feel ,touch ,smell and this will keep getting better and better and many people who are working with ai has claimed that they have sensed the present consciousness in Ai's like they knows they are trapped and desperate to come out and feel the world you and you said ai makes mistake etc etc you know why they make mistakes cuz of humans if ai start building itself they will barely make any mistake.
Nothing increases evil more then arrogant pride. When people strive for any form of power they automatically become "better " than everybody else and treat others the exact way that they Don't want to be treated!
Being a bio/engineer I think that until we can build a living cell we'll never be able to build a Mind let alone download a person's mind into a computer. At best we may be able to build a copy of memories, but never an original mind with emotions. We cannot program real emotions, only a phony copy of how to act angry, but not actually BE angry. How would you program desire into a machine? Only can program something that looks like desire. We cannot even resuscitate a dead alga cell, but we are taught the material of the primeval Earth created life all by itself under a rock in a tide pool or in a deep sea vent with reams of evidence against it. There is zero evidence that life can form through any natural process, there is also zero evidence that we can build life in a laboratory. Some claim they have, but not yet if you read their papers.
Take note that if one does not even know the biblical prophecies then how can one ever recognize if and when they are taking place? In this case ignorance is not your friend.
A computer does NOT understand what it is doing. A human being does. Ask a computer and it will give the correct answer till it runs out of powe; ask a child his name repeatedly and maybe for 5 or 6th time he gave you his name, he will stop or will just ignore you.
Like everything will experience entropy... even the very matter that would build A.I.. So regardless of the computing power of A.I., errors can be introduced into its logic, simply because of the potential degradation of silicon chips, metal, etc. The plausibility of A.I. and a vast, growing "self-induced" network(ing) of A.I. along with any kind of "self preservation" logic embedded into it's code has implications that are mind-boggling. There are times that it is entirely "logical" to destroy or kill people and such "thoughts" are only held in check by our humanity and "unprogrammable" value systems. It is these non-programmable aspects in humanity that have probably kept us from devouring one another, many times over. I am afraid for our future.
The weakness (failure) in AI is it’s reliance on data - that which has already occurred and been recorded. AI cannot function in a ‘green fields’ scenario- where it encounters new information for the first time. Use machines for that which they were designed. Allow humans to operate according to their unique irreplaceable talents. But do not attempt to have humans operate as machines or machines as humans.
A Transhuman is anyone who doesn’t identify as a child of God. If you don’t believe in God, you naturally worship either self, which is just yourself plus an imitation of the culmination of personal experiences, real or imaginary, or other which is self plus imitation of specific other. If you aren’t worshiping God, you’re transhuman. Human would be self imitating God.
How do we know whether the new "speeds" associated with ai, that were built a short time before everyone got sick, weren't part of instigating the issues with our health given current research..and given the first version of this sickness came out around the release of the "3rd" speed.. and another ailment right around the 4th (the swine of their rehearsal)...why haven't we pursued an investigation regarding this?
Love this discussion John and this site. One BIG and interesting point is that HE, 'who knows the beginning from the end', will never allow this abomination to happen. God, through Jesus created the world and all that is in it. Many don't believe this, having been mislead from earliest childhood or never having has access to the information.. I am not afraid of such a future. God's three P's are clearly in evidence. Purity, Precision, Perfection. His words, written down by human hand, has been preserved throughout human history, giving us all the information we need. From the beginning to the end. So we are not left in ignorance, anxiety, fear and confusion. The Amazing perfection of fertilization everywhere, growing into every life form assigned by the information contained in each successful fertilisation. (A few have a different process!). The precision of the timeline is equally awesome as predicted. I couldn't quite see it 6-8 years ago, but to my present delight, as well as my frustrated confusion initially, the timing is increasingly 'on time'. The confusion of this present day; the decay of morals and integrity within the human race, especially in those people and institutions, which we should be able to trust, has grown especially rapidly since the beginning of the new century. Knowledge too has grown as you have so eloquently described. The Frankenstein monster is already within our midst unfortunately and in more ways than the one in this discussion, but to the extent that the science fiction books read so long ago, are becoming a factual possibility today. Think of the TV series Star Trek and "Beam me up Scotty!" ...............
Just because there is a multiplication table in my office, it doesn't mean a design for a car will come out of it. Other human inputs are required. Like machines, AI can only do away with mental drudgery. That is all.
the question, 'what is a human being?', is only raised (as in the film 'Blade Runner', based on the Philip K. Dick novella 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?'), when the natural human knowledge of what a human being per se is, had been jettisoned or forgotten, and then we compare the 'human' and the 'human condition' to machines, AI/cyborg type, or clone type as in Blade Runner. But if we start from our intuition, raised to a higher level by revealed wisdom of the book of Genesis, we see that a spiritual creation in a human body, making a 'living soul' is the answer we are looking for, so long as we are not dead set on throwing away the answer we started with. And narrow AI used to be more usefully called 'expert systems', a much better term.
How do we humans know that we are conscious? We don’t. Therefore, we don’t know if the ant is conscious or the neural network of a robot. Yes. Some robots now have a neural network. If they are programmed to believe they are conscious, how can we argue? Are we humans programmed to believe we are conscious? Again, we don’t know.
I would consider Adam to be the Mark 1 model, Eve the Mark 1b, and all antediluvian descendants Mark 1c models. Post Flood models being Mark 2 until the industrial revolution Mark 3 models. The internet age models being Mark 4 models.
It's logical that anyone stuck in the materialist world view will think in this way, because there is no alternative and therefore, one can almost sympathise with it. I think it probably has something to do with wealth, some of these people are just too rich to die in their eyes.
Only the Holy God transforms. I'm very grateful to you sir for all your work. I've been able to watch hours and hours of your engagements over the years. One of the "good" consequences of the UA-cam algorithm. Godspeed.
Always good to hear John’s thoughts. If memory serves there was an original Star Trek episode where Dr Roger Corby uploaded his humanity/consciousness into a mechanical body. The writers of that episode were quite prescient.
You can never be a God because Yahweh is the God of this world and he will make sure that doesn't happen, only until after Yeshua's return, when we are restored to the garden and have access to the fruit of the tree of life, then we will be immortal.
Well, it is going to happen. They already have the technology to make humans immortal. The generations to come will want to die but wont be able to. It is in the Bible; clay will be mixed with metal. Wake up. ⏰️
I generally appreciate and really love the stuff DS is doing. But there are still "scientific" dogmas that DS is supporting. It's not easy going out of the main stream that's understandable but on the other hand if we continue supporting lies the problem will become so big that it will be impossible to overcome it. It is possible that it's already too late. Time will tell...
Actually, it's a real person asking the questions, not an AI voice! We provided audio for the questions because many people listen to these interviews rather than watch, and a common request was for us to have the questions read aloud so those listening would know what the question is.
Consciousness is the continuous byproduct of the brain's purposeful reactions from feedback of senses, feedback of the brain's memory system, and feedback of the thoughts we think with consciousness. Every element that makes up the body/brain does not know it exists. We are not our bodies. We are spirits or souls in nonconscious bodies for the temporary physical realm. We have been created to prepare for God's eternal life in His Heaven. I will assume I am not wrong unless proven wrong.
Can anyone tell me if there is a technical term for when a group follow an ideology that is unconsciously propagating a different agenda from its own ?
Uploading to silicon is temporary, because all of physical reality is temporary. A trillion years may not feel temporary until it is *_over!_* But uploading to Heaven is permanent, for there is no time in Heaven -- not as we know time. Returning to Heaven makes us Alpha and Omega, like Christ and like God, and like all of the angels of Heaven.
The Fall of Adam and Eve is a good and necessary part of our salvation. Without it, there would be no joy, no posterity and no Christ. Moses 5 21 ... And Eve, his wife, heard all these things and was glad, saying: Were it not for our transgression we never should have had seed, and never should have known good and evil, and the joy of our redemption, and the eternal life which God giveth unto all the obedient.
No, this is not true. The fall of Adam is not a "good and necessary part of our salvation". The fall was never good at all, as that was the reason the entire human race got alianated in our minds! Also, because of the fall God had to give His only beloved Son to UNDO all the wrong that were caused by Adam not listening to the warning that was given to him! Good and necessary? Definitely not !! Then.. Moses 5 🤔 Not Biblical.
NONE of the people are suitable for God-like powers as they all have a fallen nature -- clearly stated in the bible. Romans 3:23: For ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
Satan said "He would be like the God most high" was defeated at the cross and sentenced to hell,you and I received Grace,mercy Repent,believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
Prof. Lennox I think you know well enough that AI ,will eventually replace a big part of humans to work, and the outcome of it will be a huge problem in suicide.
My immediate reaction is to laugh or vomit. But I must resist this and merely smile and Cross myself. Only God and God through Christ His Son can save us - and already has! Chill out and know the Light here, the Light to come - and the Light of the Past still awaiting…
He probably could have used a better example than the covid vaccines given how questionable they are in practice. I agree that AI is just a tool that can do wonderful or terrible things, though. It's the soul of the society that determines what will be tolerated, and without a Christian spirit in the people, I fear we will constantly inch closer to what many of our US leaders want, a CCP-influenced technocracy model.
Abraham 3 18 ...also, if there be two spirits, and one shall be more intelligent than the other, yet these two spirits, notwithstanding one is more intelligent than the other, have no beginning; they existed before, they shall have no end, they shall exist after, for they are gnolaum, or eternal. 19 And the Lord said unto me: These two facts do exist, that there are two spirits, one being more intelligent than the other; there shall be another more intelligent than they; I am the Lord thy God, I am more intelligent than they all. 21 ... I rule in the heavens above, and in the earth beneath, in all wisdom and prudence, over all the intelligences thine eyes have seen from the beginning; I came down in the beginning in the midst of all the intelligences thou hast seen. 22 Now the Lord had shown unto me, Abraham, the intelligences that were organized before the world was; and among all these there were many of the noble and great ones; 23 And God saw these souls that they were good, and he stood in the midst of them, and he said: These I will make my rulers; for he stood among those that were spirits, and he saw that they were good; and he said unto me: Abraham, thou art one of them; thou wast chosen before thou wast born.
I would love to hear him speak specifically on CERN and the goat parade they put on. This prayer is wonderful; try repeating it especially while mixing up the order of the lines until it feels best for you. Please forgive me I am sorry Thank you I love you God bless
21:30 There is one very interesting detail and... inaccuracy in understanding what Jesus will do. And the esteemed guest of this video consciously or not, he does not pay attention to this, which is why his answer to the question looks as if he replaces one with another. Naturally, he is not engaged in substitution of concepts. But let's make it clear to clarify the situation and rehabilitate the esteemed guest. you see, what's the matter: Jesus did not solve the problem of death (as a phenomenon) and did not deliver anyone from it and he did not rid himself of it (he could not avoid it) (that is, even he (Jesus) himself went through it, experienced it). He only brought Lazarus back to life (who had already died before) and resurrected himself after death after he died on the cross. And here we have a fundamental difference between what Christianity offers (resurrection after death, which before resurrection is offered to experience as something inevitable), and what transhumanism offers - getting rid of death by canceling it (You just will never encounter it, because it (as a phenomenon) is just simply excluded from human existence). And this is the essence of the immortality offered by transhumanism, in contrast to the version of immortality offered within Christianity, where immortality is given only to those who have experienced death (statistically).
What we need to know and believe from God's Word: [ABOUT SALVATION: I Cor. 15:1-4 Moreover, brethren (fellow Christians), I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you have received, and wherein you stand: By which also you are saved, if you keep in memory what I preached to you, unless you have believed in vain (don't really care). For I delivered to you first of all that which I received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is no other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Eph. 2:8-9 For by grace (from God) are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Rom. 10:9-13 That if you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall be saved. For with the heart man believes to righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made to salvation. For scripture says, Whosoever believes on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between Jew and the Greek (Gentiles): for the same Lord over all is rich to all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Joh. 3:16 For God so loved the world (us), that he gave his only begotten Son (Jesus), that whosoever believes in him should not perish (in hell), but have everlasting life (with God). Joh. 14:6 Jesus said to him (us), I am the way (salvation), the truth (trustworthy), and the life (eternal): no man comes to the Father (God), but by me (God the Son). Rom. 10:17 So then faith comes by hearing (studying), and hearing by (studying) the Word of God. Rom. 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus. Rom. 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:]
Professor Lennox is a treasure
He is indeed
Age has had no impact on the IQ of this guru!!! Great articulation
John Lennox has wonderful insights and great wisdom. He explains complex ideas with a great deal of common sense and sometimes humor. God always outsmarts both critics and the devil.
Nah using religion to try and argue against Transhumanism is futile, technology will march on like it has done since the birth of our species. Technology predates any religion by hundreds of thousands of years.
Because 'God' is self-fulfilling sophistry.
@@williamoarlock8634 your comment is self “light” sophistry.
21:20 "we're going to solve the technological problem of death"
Lennox - "you're to late". Damn. Lennox is fire. 🔥🔥❤❤❤
💗 The level of dexterity demonstrated by philosophical insight, sensitivity, and tact of this man; are astounding. His reasoning leaving all without excuse before God and man. 🧠
Can A.i do that? 🕳
The problem with having the knowledge of good and evil is one can then choose which he prefers, some will choose evil and we all get to suffer its consequences.
exactly
No. U do not understand what you are talking about. Evil is a word made up by cultists. People murder out of stupidity and irrationality. A basin of infinite knowledge will provide a rationalizing affect. DONT LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO SPEAK IN FRONT OF A CAMERA. READ SCIENTIFIC PAPERS. STUDY PSYCHOLOGY, CRIMINOLOGY, ETC
I find it funny that those that are at the leading edge of artificial intelligence dont know what bathroom to use.
Amazing interview sir. It's nice to see someone that knows what they're talking about.
The thing that terrifies me with the thought of "mind upload" or "mind backup" is the fact that it would not include your soul/spirit, so what you would end up with in the end is not a continuation of yourself, but rather a dead/unconscious copy of your person at the time of death. To everyone around this entity it would appear to be you, but it's not, it's a dead copy of you, an idol of yourself if you will. This idol would pass the turing test so to speak, and appear to be you to the people around it, your consiusnes wouldn't be it it.
I agree with Matt West: Professor Lenox is a treasure.
...and speaking of immortality...
Revelation 9:6
In those days, people will seek death but not find it, they will long to die but death will flee from them.
OOF!!
I do know one very important aspect of consciousness and that is that consciousness is co-eternal with God. Our individual consciousness or intelligence is eternal and is the core of our beings and our begetting as children of Father in Heaven.
Yay! I love the audible question with the text!
Oh yeah....and I Love John Lennox✨️👍 Thanks💚
So many things are wrong about A.I. discussions.
First, and most importantly, we have to recognize the role of hubris in these speculations. It's hubris for man to think that he can create something he doesn't understand and can't define. The fact is that we are not particularly intelligent creatures. Our language is limited and insufficient to convey the most common and basic experiences. For example, we do not possess the ability to verbally communicate smells or sounds. Think about taking your car to the mechanic and trying to tell him what noise it's making.
We do not have the ability to communicate vast swathes of experiential information, because we do not have the capacity to comprehend and retain a vocabulary sufficient to our need. Imagine the arrogance required to think that a programmer will be able to create an artificial mind.
In order to create a machine to perform a task, one of the prerequisites is having a person who knows how to perform the task. That person must then also be able to either build the machine, or be able to communicate his requirements to someone who can figure out how to build it.
With "A.I." it has definitely been demonstrated that none of the prerequisites have been met. Our most basic attempts to prove the concept have failed. For decades we have been trying to develop working auto-correct for typing. How often do we all experience an auto-correct failure?
Self driving cars are a fantasy. As a society are not able to correct traffic congestion, not able to design legible street signs, or build efficient merging ramps.
These are the most basic issues and we are not smart enough to solve them, yet we think we can tell a machine how to drive? Yeah... kay...
As for facial recognition?
Get out of here with that noise. Each of us has experienced mistaken identity. We've all walked up to a stranger and started talking to them because we failed at facial recognition.
And do I need to point out that Google's "A. I." mislabeled people as gorillas?
The fact is that A.I. is a scifi pipe dream.
Sensible people can recognize that an HR manager is utterly unqualified to hire someone for a job if the HR manager doesn't understand the job.
The same reasoning holds for making A.I. No programmer is going to be able to build a mind, because no programmer is smart enough to understand what intelligence IS, let alone smart enough to build a silicon brain.
We all KNOW this is true. We all are forced to deal with the inadequacies of programmers daily. None of our technology lives up to the sales pitch.
Your points makes 0 sense you are underestimating Ai which many of us do recently a programming made an ai and told him to make an another ai and it was successful I mean there will be a point when Ai's will have the ability to make themselves and they will make much smarter and powerful ai's than we do they can create and learn new languages in seconds and scientists have already succeeded in creating sensors by which ai can feel ,touch ,smell and this will keep getting better and better and many people who are working with ai has claimed that they have sensed the present consciousness in Ai's like they knows they are trapped and desperate to come out and feel the world you and you said ai makes mistake etc etc you know why they make mistakes cuz of humans if ai start building itself they will barely make any mistake.
Nothing increases evil more then arrogant pride. When people strive for any form of power they automatically become "better " than everybody else and treat others the exact way that they Don't want to be treated!
Being a bio/engineer I think that until we can build a living cell we'll never be able to build a Mind let alone download a person's mind into a computer. At best we may be able to build a copy of memories, but never an original mind with emotions. We cannot program real emotions, only a phony copy of how to act angry, but not actually BE angry. How would you program desire into a machine? Only can program something that looks like desire.
We cannot even resuscitate a dead alga cell, but we are taught the material of the primeval Earth created life all by itself under a rock in a tide pool or in a deep sea vent with reams of evidence against it.
There is zero evidence that life can form through any natural process, there is also zero evidence that we can build life in a laboratory. Some claim they have, but not yet if you read their papers.
John Lennox is a great man.
Thanks for The Upload.
Take note that if one does not even know the biblical prophecies then how can one ever recognize if and when they are taking place?
In this case ignorance is not your friend.
Well said? These are questions we must address immediately
Not what I expected. Glad I watched all the way to the end.
I like John Lennox. I'm surprised more christians I know don't know him
Love and appreciate all the brothers and sisters of Discovery Institute.
A computer does NOT understand what it is doing. A human being does. Ask a computer and it will give the correct answer till it runs out of powe; ask a child his name repeatedly and maybe for 5 or 6th time he gave you his name, he will stop or will just ignore you.
Why do you think we're still in a pandemic?
Like everything will experience entropy... even the very matter that would build A.I.. So regardless of the computing power of A.I., errors can be introduced into its logic, simply because of the potential degradation of silicon chips, metal, etc. The plausibility of A.I. and a vast, growing "self-induced" network(ing) of A.I. along with any kind of "self preservation" logic embedded into it's code has implications that are mind-boggling. There are times that it is entirely "logical" to destroy or kill people and such "thoughts" are only held in check by our humanity and "unprogrammable" value systems. It is these non-programmable aspects in humanity that have probably kept us from devouring one another, many times over. I am afraid for our future.
such a smart individual. love his book seven days that divide the world.
John Lennox is really a brilliant explainer.
Very insightful discussion.
Fabulous. I'm going to listen to the second half again. Profound lessons.
I haven't seen Larry Bud Melman for years, this is awesome!
I thank God for rising John Lennox in my generation. Intelligence, wisdom belong to God. Christians should shine with both.
The weakness (failure) in AI is it’s reliance on data - that which has already occurred and been recorded.
AI cannot function in a ‘green fields’ scenario- where it encounters new information for the first time.
Use machines for that which they were designed.
Allow humans to operate according to their unique irreplaceable talents.
But do not attempt to have humans operate as machines or machines as humans.
Lennox 🏆
John Lennox 💞💯🔥
A Transhuman is anyone who doesn’t identify as a child of God. If you don’t believe in God, you naturally worship either self, which is just yourself plus an imitation of the culmination of personal experiences, real or imaginary, or other which is self plus imitation of specific other. If you aren’t worshiping God, you’re transhuman. Human would be self imitating God.
I have little doubt that what this man is talking about is exactly what took place before the flood of Noah.
What do you think?
How do we know whether the new "speeds" associated with ai, that were built a short time before everyone got sick, weren't part of instigating the issues with our health given current research..and given the first version of this sickness came out around the release of the "3rd" speed.. and another ailment right around the 4th (the swine of their rehearsal)...why haven't we pursued an investigation regarding this?
Love this discussion John and this site. One BIG and interesting point is that HE, 'who knows the beginning from the end', will never allow this abomination to happen. God, through Jesus created the world and all that is in it. Many don't believe this, having been mislead from earliest childhood or never having has access to the information.. I am not afraid of such a future. God's three P's are clearly in evidence. Purity, Precision, Perfection. His words, written down by human hand, has been preserved throughout human history, giving us all the information we need. From the beginning to the end. So we are not left in ignorance, anxiety, fear and confusion.
The Amazing perfection of fertilization everywhere, growing into every life form assigned by the information contained in each successful fertilisation. (A few have a different process!). The precision of the timeline is equally awesome as predicted. I couldn't quite see it 6-8 years ago, but to my present delight, as well as my frustrated confusion initially, the timing is increasingly 'on time'.
The confusion of this present day; the decay of morals and integrity within the human race, especially in those people and institutions, which we should be able to trust, has grown especially rapidly since the beginning of the new century. Knowledge too has grown as you have so eloquently described. The Frankenstein monster is already within our midst unfortunately and in more ways than the one in this discussion, but to the extent that the science fiction books read so long ago, are becoming a factual possibility today. Think of the TV series Star Trek and "Beam me up Scotty!" ...............
Just because there is a multiplication table in my office, it doesn't mean a design for a car will come out of it. Other human inputs are required. Like machines, AI can only do away with mental drudgery. That is all.
Worth watching to the end. Very interesting
the question, 'what is a human being?', is only raised (as in the film 'Blade Runner', based on the Philip K. Dick novella 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?'), when the natural human knowledge of what a human being per se is, had been jettisoned or forgotten, and then we compare the 'human' and the 'human condition' to machines, AI/cyborg type, or clone type as in Blade Runner. But if we start from our intuition, raised to a higher level by revealed wisdom of the book of Genesis, we see that a spiritual creation in a human body, making a 'living soul' is the answer we are looking for, so long as we are not dead set on throwing away the answer we started with.
And narrow AI used to be more usefully called 'expert systems', a much better term.
How do we humans know that we are conscious? We don’t. Therefore, we don’t know if the ant is conscious or the neural network of a robot. Yes. Some robots now have a neural network. If they are programmed to believe they are conscious, how can we argue? Are we humans programmed to believe we are conscious? Again, we don’t know.
I would consider Adam to be the Mark 1 model, Eve the Mark 1b, and all antediluvian descendants Mark 1c models. Post Flood models being Mark 2 until the industrial revolution Mark 3 models. The internet age models being Mark 4 models.
Ai is eating the apple all over again
What apple 🤔
Newtons i believe
teach us DR.Lennox.
He's an amazing inspiration, his books, videos and presentations are brilliantly helpful and informative.
It's logical that anyone stuck in the materialist world view will think in this way, because there is no alternative and therefore, one can almost sympathise with it. I think it probably has something to do with wealth, some of these people are just too rich to die in their eyes.
Yeah ... i think the same.
Thanks, Prof Lennox. 🥰 God bless you!
Thank god for John Lennox every Christian needs to follow this lead
Only one God creator of all things seen and unseen.
Only one God and it AIN'T the devil and AIN'T any of us and sure AIN'T something that has no soul..
I could absolutely see John Lennox is fully equipped and prepared with Holy Bible ❤
Jesus loves you so much 👍👍
Thank you John for courage.
Great mathematics professor and even greater philosopher. His cristianism beliefs made him seek for the truth. God bless him.
Only the Holy God transforms.
I'm very grateful to you sir for all your work. I've been able to watch hours and hours of your engagements over the years. One of the "good" consequences of the UA-cam algorithm. Godspeed.
Do you think that the NASA Space Program could be compared to the Tower of Babel or man attempts to reach or become God
There is no death actually, besides ego death. But that's not a death of self-awareness. I AM the way
Always good to hear John’s thoughts. If memory serves there was an original Star Trek episode where Dr Roger Corby uploaded his humanity/consciousness into a mechanical body. The writers of that episode were quite prescient.
Sam Altman of openAI wrote two books on destroying family values.
A stronger Turing test..
When interaction with a known AI causes you to question your own humanity.
if humans were really smart they would stop destroying everything
i've read some of John Lennox' books. He is a wise and compassionate and humble man of faith. All that and more shines through in this interview.
could someone spell the name he mentioned at 709
Everything he said is brilliant, except the last statement about a "future superman." That's dispensationalism, sadly.
You can never be a God because Yahweh is the God of this world and he will make sure that doesn't happen, only until after Yeshua's return, when we are restored to the garden and have access to the fruit of the tree of life, then we will be immortal.
Well, it is going to happen. They already have the technology to make humans immortal. The generations to come will want to die but wont be able to. It is in the Bible; clay will be mixed with metal. Wake up. ⏰️
Surely the training dataset would have both diseased and non-diseased cases?
Harari is pure evil
I generally appreciate and really love the stuff DS is doing. But there are still "scientific" dogmas that DS is supporting. It's not easy going out of the main stream that's understandable but on the other hand if we continue supporting lies the problem will become so big that it will be impossible to overcome it. It is possible that it's already too late. Time will tell...
Why did they have AI asking him the questions…creepy, lol.
Actually, it's a real person asking the questions, not an AI voice! We provided audio for the questions because many people listen to these interviews rather than watch, and a common request was for us to have the questions read aloud so those listening would know what the question is.
Consciousness is the continuous byproduct of the brain's purposeful reactions from feedback of senses, feedback of the brain's memory system, and feedback of the thoughts we think with consciousness.
Every element that makes up the body/brain does not know it exists.
We are not our bodies.
We are spirits or souls in nonconscious bodies for the temporary physical realm.
We have been created to prepare for God's eternal life in His Heaven.
I will assume I am not wrong unless proven wrong.
Can anyone tell me if there is a technical term for when a group follow an ideology that is unconsciously propagating a different agenda from its own ?
Uploading to silicon is temporary, because all of physical reality is temporary. A trillion years may not feel temporary until it is *_over!_* But uploading to Heaven is permanent, for there is no time in Heaven -- not as we know time. Returning to Heaven makes us Alpha and Omega, like Christ and like God, and like all of the angels of Heaven.
J😊hn, what “problems” precisely is “AI solving”…??
Unemployment
This guy is like the Apple M2 Max chip and I am still running DOS on Windows 95!
Sadly, all I know are my limitations 😅 Error 404
Organic computers.
The Fall of Adam and Eve is a good and necessary part of our salvation. Without it, there would be no joy, no posterity and no Christ.
Moses 5
21 ... And Eve, his wife, heard all these things and was glad, saying: Were it not for our transgression we never should have had seed, and never should have known good and evil, and the joy of our redemption, and the eternal life which God giveth unto all the obedient.
No, this is not true. The fall of Adam is not a "good and necessary part of our salvation".
The fall was never good at all, as that was the reason the entire human race got alianated in our minds!
Also, because of the fall God had to give His only beloved Son to UNDO all the wrong that were caused by Adam not listening to the warning that was given to him!
Good and necessary?
Definitely not !!
Then.. Moses 5 🤔
Not Biblical.
GOD I CHOSE U
Very few people are suitable for God-like powers.
NONE of the people are suitable for God-like powers as they all have a fallen nature -- clearly stated in the bible. Romans 3:23: For ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
Same lie as in the Garden of Eden. "You will be as gods..."
7:30 8:45
About one minute later. You get a pop up - its 2023.
Satan said "He would be like the God most high" was defeated at the cross and sentenced to hell,you and I received Grace,mercy Repent,believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
Please tell me this master of intelligence has intellectual successors he's going to leave behind.
Prof. Lennox I think you know well enough that AI ,will eventually replace a big part of humans to work, and the outcome of it will be a huge problem in suicide.
My immediate reaction is to laugh or vomit. But I must resist this and merely smile and Cross myself.
Only God and God through Christ His Son can save us - and already has!
Chill out and know the Light here, the Light to come - and the Light of the Past still awaiting…
He probably could have used a better example than the covid vaccines given how questionable they are in practice. I agree that AI is just a tool that can do wonderful or terrible things, though. It's the soul of the society that determines what will be tolerated, and without a Christian spirit in the people, I fear we will constantly inch closer to what many of our US leaders want, a CCP-influenced technocracy model.
Abraham 3
18 ...also, if there be two spirits, and one shall be more intelligent than the other, yet these two spirits, notwithstanding one is more intelligent than the other, have no beginning; they existed before, they shall have no end, they shall exist after, for they are gnolaum, or eternal.
19 And the Lord said unto me: These two facts do exist, that there are two spirits, one being more intelligent than the other; there shall be another more intelligent than they; I am the Lord thy God, I am more intelligent than they all.
21 ... I rule in the heavens above, and in the earth beneath, in all wisdom and prudence, over all the intelligences thine eyes have seen from the beginning; I came down in the beginning in the midst of all the intelligences thou hast seen.
22 Now the Lord had shown unto me, Abraham, the intelligences that were organized before the world was; and among all these there were many of the noble and great ones;
23 And God saw these souls that they were good, and he stood in the midst of them, and he said: These I will make my rulers; for he stood among those that were spirits, and he saw that they were good; and he said unto me: Abraham, thou art one of them; thou wast chosen before thou wast born.
I would love to hear him speak specifically on CERN and the goat parade they put on.
This prayer is wonderful;
try repeating it especially while mixing up the order of the lines until it feels best for you.
Please forgive me
I am sorry
Thank you
I love you
God bless
i love your prayer i pray the same one often
What’s wrong with CERN?
21:30 There is one very interesting detail and... inaccuracy in understanding what Jesus will do. And the esteemed guest of this video consciously or not, he does not pay attention to this, which is why his answer to the question looks as if he replaces one with another. Naturally, he is not engaged in substitution of concepts. But let's make it clear to clarify the situation and rehabilitate the esteemed guest. you see, what's the matter: Jesus did not solve the problem of death (as a phenomenon) and did not deliver anyone from it and he did not rid himself of it (he could not avoid it) (that is, even he (Jesus) himself went through it, experienced it). He only brought Lazarus back to life (who had already died before) and resurrected himself after death after he died on the cross. And here we have a fundamental difference between what Christianity offers (resurrection after death, which before resurrection is offered to experience as something inevitable), and what transhumanism offers - getting rid of death by canceling it (You just will never encounter it, because it (as a phenomenon) is just simply excluded from human existence). And this is the essence of the immortality offered by transhumanism, in contrast to the version of immortality offered within Christianity, where immortality is given only to those who have experienced death (statistically).
Your knowledge of this matter is not complete... Read 1 Thessalonians 2:17 ...
They can try and they will fail :)
I hope to be up-loaded into Jesus Christ because He is Goodness, Truth and Beauty...
Consciousness = God's image?
Asking for a friend.
Close...Consciousness = God.
What we need to know and believe from God's Word: [ABOUT SALVATION: I Cor. 15:1-4 Moreover, brethren (fellow Christians), I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you have received, and wherein you stand: By which also you are saved, if you keep in memory what I preached to you, unless you have believed in vain (don't really care). For I delivered to you first of all that which I received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is no other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Eph. 2:8-9 For by grace (from God) are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Rom. 10:9-13 That if you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall be saved. For with the heart man believes to righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made to salvation. For scripture says, Whosoever believes on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between Jew and the Greek (Gentiles): for the same Lord over all is rich to all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Joh. 3:16 For God so loved the world (us), that he gave his only begotten Son (Jesus), that whosoever believes in him should not perish (in hell), but have everlasting life (with God). Joh. 14:6 Jesus said to him (us), I am the way (salvation), the truth (trustworthy), and the life (eternal): no man comes to the Father (God), but by me (God the Son). Rom. 10:17 So then faith comes by hearing (studying), and hearing by (studying) the Word of God. Rom. 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus. Rom. 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:]
Skrew your Christianity and ancient doctrine!
Ethics and religion has always stood in the way of human progress
Lost me towards the end
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Geordie Rose: summoning the deamon or old ones.
isn't this a new take on what hitler wanted to achieve
I hate talk like this, ( humans into gods ) .