Machining Away a Cosmetic Side Door and Making it Real !!!
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- Опубліковано 24 лис 2023
- Continuing on the PM Research Mini Mill, this video shows the preparation and milling of adding a side door to the main base casting. The actual door and hinges will be shown in a later video.
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I vote for aluminum door. As much as I love brass, I don’t think the door should draw attention to itself. Brass for the hinges and handle will already be attractive enough. KISS. 😉👍 Thanks for sharing, Joe.
If the door is going to be painted, then it really doesn't matter what it's made from, so I'd say aluminum for the door. Hinges could be blued steel or bright brass, not sure what color it will be painted.
@@minigpracing3068He's never painted any of his previous models
Agreed
What he said. 😁 Love the shelf unit too. Awesome as always Joe. 👍👍
I’d go for aluminium door with brass hinges and handle. From memory none of the other models have had a brass door and I agree with Rootvalue in that it’s a door not a main feature, but as always it’s a personal opinion. Sometimes understated is more impactful than ‘in your face’.
I had thought the tabs on the right were for cam locks to hold the door closed so you didn’t need to mill an undercut for the tab. Prefer your shelving solution though.
Great video Joe, as always, looking forward to your next. Cheers, Nick
A fine example of CAD . I use it all the time making parts for vintage cars . Cardboard aided design :)
I hardly ever do that, but it worked out well.
Aluminum door, I think. More realistic, and with the added feature of being a surprise for someone who didn't at first realise the door would open. :)
Alum door (blasted to look cast) w/brass hardware.
Anybody else feel like if Joe read a phone book it would reaffirm how much of a machinist that I am not?
I had predicted that the lugs were shelf supports and then you stole my thunder by showing the end result! I'm voting for an aluminium door, with a raised edge, and 3 louvres, no, 5.
Regards, Preso
Aluminum door, with Brass hinge & knob hardware: that will pretty it up a little, while maintaining the overall look of a cast machine.
Love the shelf details 👍👍😎👍👍. My vote is an aluminum door with brass hardware.
Aluminum door with brass hinges and a brass knob.
I would vote for aluminum door, sand blasted to make it look like a casting. Nice job Joe!
Good choice
Hey Joe, Always a treat. Aluminum door brass hardware and a brass inlay around the outer edge of door. You asked Hahaha. Thank You Sir
Let's talk about the "blaster" when you have a chance. Great job Joe!
Aluminum door! Brass hinges and latch handle! Good stuff Joe! Thanks for your time!
I think the door should be aluminum/aluminium - reason: on the fill sized machine the body and the door would both be made of the same material. A brass door would make it look like a shiny toy rather than a model! (To be honest I'd prefer that the PM Research models were cast iron.) Thanks for another excellent video Joe.
PS If you wanted to invisibly fill the porosity of this aluminium casting you could make a filler of fine aluminium powder and epoxy - super fine aluminium powder is available from "cold casting" suppliers like "Smooth-On" in the US or Alec Tiranti in the UK.
The large protrusions are for the hinge pockets and the small ones are for the door latches.
I think you should use a T-slot cutter (or similar) and enlarge the inside of the cavity beyond the door opening...
That door impression removal is ecxellent. By the way, Im not a machinist, but never miss a video of yours. Thanks. Brass door.
I vote for a brass door, unpainted it’ll show a nice contrast. Love the neat left for the hinge mountings and cam lock door latch points too 😉.
It’s great to see unique improvements to these models. They add a lot, and really show how individual flair can be added. A brass door would look stunning!
I would suggest an Aluminium door, painted,with a brass name/data plate and brass fist door lock handles, hinges would be painted so steel for strength.
Great build and looking forward to completed project.
Take care.
Aluminum door with brass hinges.
Being that I'm an old Jeweller/Goldsmith, I think do the door "hinges & handle" in brass & the door itself in blasted aluminium.
That's based on the assumption other elements like gears & dials will be in the brass, so the door fixtures compliment them.
“The finger gauge”. More accurate than any mechanical gauge. 👏👏👍😎
When you slid the shelves in at the end I literally gasped and said that's beautiful!
Well whatever it ends up I know it will blow us away. How bout going with Aluminum door with brass accents such as the hinges and door handles but when you display it you will have to leave the door ajar to show the inside contents unless you amaze us all with a window or screen in the door. Can’t wait to see ya make a set of cutters etc to our on the inside shelving . Anyhow way to go Joe!!!
The latches are for a shelf to seat the holy grail!
Nice work Joe!
Aluminium door and brass features.
I vote for an aluminium door.
Nice work.
Shelves, aluminum for the door. Thanks Joe!
Oops, posted before I saw the end of the video. Oh well!
I would machine the door from brass with a half-round beaded edge as on the casting originally. The center of the door has to be milled out to make the interior portion of the beading. Polish the beading for a high contrast. The recessed center of the door would be painted with the same paint used on the majority of the machine. Use painted hinges with a polished brass handle. Terrific job as usual. It is a joy to watch you build things.
Great build. Love the videos.
My two cents are for the door, go bling.
Polished aluminium door with raised polished brass trim around the edge of the door including hinges and latch in brass.
Then the remainder of the mill body gloss black. And other brass bits throughout. 😬
As much as I love Brass I think the door should be aluminum with Brass hardware . But I would appreciate which ever you choose . Thanks for always showing tricks and tips 😉 !
I agree an Al- u - mini -um door as manufacturer probably chose for reduced cost. Brass hinges
This is a realistic model so it, and the door, should be painted.
Love the shelves
Aluminium for the door, with brass-fitting - hinges, dogs, keyhole border etc Steel hinge-pins
He only went and put shelves in it as well!!, The door has got to be the same as the machine, it would have been on a full sized one. Jus another amazing build from you Joe. Love it. Or you could just put an MDF one on it!!
Bonus is the two shelves. Vote for aluminum possibly two tone paint colours for door and body. Enjoy the way you progress through the project. Thanks! BTW, would see stainless hinges, my two cents.
Aluminum door and hinge Brass latch and brass plack. 👍Happy late turkey day (turkey) Lol. Best to you and yours🦃
Maybe for a shelf. As usual, always good to check your videos-full of useful tips.
Aluminum door for sure.
crafty on the shelving
Entertained and educated with every single video, thank you
What about a stamped sheet metal door? It would be interesting to see that done in miniature!!
Slick! I love it. 👍 Just for bling, brass for the door.
Hi Joe, thanks.
Alli or dural door, bead blasted so the blast grit doesnt get engrained (captured) in the door surface.
Must have a polished brass handle but don't like alli hinges.
So brass or steel hinges.
Steel may seize with time.
So it's brass hinges.
Key for the door- lock must be stainless steel.
Clever one piece double shelf.
Aluminum for the door. A black crinkle finish paint job would look terrific, and hide the casting voids.
WOW! What a mind bender…your design ideas and machining, artistry and craftsmanship….thank you for sharing/mentoring!! Munimula for the door, that was the planet Ruff & Ready cartoon visited when we were kids (always stuck in my head as the announcer said that’s Al spelled backwards)😂😂😂😂
Hi Chuck. Thanks for the input.
I like the idea of a brass door. And the shelves added a nice touch :)
The shelves were a touch of genius. Brilliant 👍
Oh, aluminium for the door please
Noted.
You better make a damn overhead power system to power these models!!!!!!! great job - inspirational - my son is making the sharper using sherline tool i got him - all because of you!!!!!!
An operating diorama complete with boiler and the steam engine. - Joe Pi detailing on the "timbers" would be worth watching in itself.
@@mathewmolk2089 agreed - joe sounds like he is from new york! - love it
Excellent work Joe. Material for door:- Brass. 👍
Joe. Aluminium door brass hinges. With Advanced inovations logo on door !!!
Now we're talking. :)
brass door for sure! thanks joe always a great video
edit: love the bonus footage shelves in the casing, excellent use of space and the fit up with the rads is beautiful.
Awesome, as usual, Joe! Aluminum, definitely. Many thanks for sharing. Best to you and yours as we get into the holidays.
Aluminium door (but only if pronounced correctly) and brass fittings. It's a UK thing. Another interesting video Joe, ta.
Alumium?
Al la min yum@@ItsMrAssholeToYou
I'm guessing the rails you left are for shelf... Oh, never mind. I typed that and then your extra came on. I love the little insert that makes for a nice stable set of shelves.
Well, my vote is aluminum door brass hinges and latch. I knew the runners were for shelves based on how much the fake door bothered you. Loved the video!!!
You know you love brass, especially if other parts are brass. Givver!
It's ALWAYS good to see you post a new one. You sound like all is well my friend.Brass would be ok but it will take too much of a visual aspect away from the machine. Hard call old friend. Only time will tell that story. Like I said up top it's great seeing you this fine day my friend.
aluminum door as it will be closer to real world machine. Never seen a brass door on any of these type machines and I have been around since some of them were new also:})
P.S. the shelves are the icing on the cake!☺️
Inside features=shelf brackets.
Brass door preferred. But I trust your taste.
Joe, I have a request.
I am not a machinist. I am a mechanically inclined, home garage D.Y.I.-er. Throughout my many decades of drilling and tapping, l have never understood the relationship between drill speed and size/different materials/and when to lube or not lube the operation. The same with lubing when tapping. As I watch your videos sometime you lube when drilling, sometimes you don’t.
Realizing this could be a complex subject, my request from you would be maybe a “rule of thumb” or basics video to explain some of this. I’m sure it could be helpful to many of us out there.
My guess is the ribs are for shelves. I would go with an aluminum door. Brass might look cool but it could also look out of place.
Hi Joe. Nice video, some good stuff there. As to the door, Aluminum. The reason is for paint retention and the potential of paint failure. The real machine is of course cast iron, but a scrape on the paint will have both the door and base looking the same. In the model, a scrape that reveals what we would expect to be cast iron as brass would look funky.
The locking handle and hinges could be bronze or brass on the prototype, so the same applies here. Or for that matter, ZInc or pot metal.
I am a total novice. I have watched all of you tiny-tiny machine videos and per your previous comments on this build, the notches are for shelves of course! (Gotta have a place to place the tiny-tiny tooling that you will have for this masterpiece.
You said aluminum or brass... I want to toss in one more level of difficulty for the Jedi Master - - - Copper!?
How freaking cool would that look? Just saying?
You do you and thank you for sharing. Love your content and especially your commentary.
Please stay Awesomness!
Thanks Joe, another really interesting approach to getting the results you want. The way you do things makes me expand the way I like at things, especially workholding. Appreciate you sharing your knowledge. Regards from Wales
Those shelves fit insanely well. Nice touch of Pie there, love it.
Door should match the stand for material in my opinion, so aluminium and not brass of those are options.
Looking forward to seeing the door. Now you have room for a auto lubricating oil tank, in your machined cavity.
Another great video as usual, The ribs would be for some shelving & my vote for the door would be Aluminum, Paint it with a hammer tone finish to hide/fill the voids in the casting.
Should have left the machine body solid for heavy duty, (Cutting ability with out chatter). If its going to be a (spare tool), add a big door to Magain extra attraction and Sparkle, for a short period before, becoming an annoyance. Paint it a ginger winger out cast color. No shelves, more space will be required, and keep out of sight. As a manual machinist i could only hope to have you're skill in reading a plan and setup, now at 55 i wish you had been my mentor.
Hinge mounting points and door latch catch hard points.
Aluminum will blend with the casting color. I ground old needle files into chisels for doing fine work.
Hey Joe, late to the show. The door is a great idea. Of course your using an AL door but we all know that’s the best idea. I was surprised at the porosity of the casting. As these are pin holes in AL, the cause is gassing. Al is prone to gassing and there are tricks using salts of various types to reduce gassing. JB weld may be the best solution to filling these cosmetic pores.
Alloy for the win 🏆
Aluminum door...brass hinges
Yes.
Great combo.
Ribs will be shelf supports.
I like the brass door idea. Little bling to show it off.
Since the pinholes mean it's got to be painted anyway, it might as well be aluminium (and no nasty brass splinters to stick in the fingers as a bonus).
Or use whatever's lying around looking for a home...
Aluminum door please and brass for all the fiddly bits. Nice project so far. Thanks for letting us look over your shoulder!
Good call. Thanks for watching.
Hi Joe - it’s got to be alloy, cast preferably. 🙂👍
Thanks for the video I really like the shelf and I enjoy my weekend watching the episodes thank you
Brass hinges aluminum door. Thank you!!!
May go this way. Thanks.
X2 brass hinge and door handle, aluminium door
Aluminum door with brass handle and hinges.
Excellent as always!
I knew the protrusions were going to be for shelves, But you had me as to how you were going to fit them with such a big lug on the hinge side.
Once again you think outside the square or in this case with a square.
Personal preference on door material, Brass, oh so shiny and golden.
I do like shiny brass.
I made another shelf for mine too, it only came with one fixed in place, I really didn't want to drill holes in the side or weld it in place, I used bits of wood for legs so it's more like a table sitting inside. LOL
Aluminum door with louvers.
Brass door is my preference. Great addition of the shelves! Love your work and videos.
Thank you!
You could make the door out of oak or walnut with brass accents.or just surprise us.
Aluminum for the door. The full size machine would have been all cast iron, the blasted aluminum simulates it well
Good choice
You're the boss Joe. A brass door would look cool but if you are going to paint the finished model whatever material is easier to work with. I know you don't have issues with any material. Enjoy your videos, happy Thanksgiving from Calgary
How about an aluminum frame with glass to see thru to shelves! Go 1 step further - illuminate with grain of wheat led lamps. Now there's a challenge!
I think this is the first channel I subscribed to after watching the first video.
Thanks and welcome aboard. I'm flattered. If you're looking for something specific, leave a question, I'll try to direct you.
Nice work, thank you.
A brass door would really make it pop, but aluminium would look more realistic, so it depends on what you're after.
Aluminum door. In the real world they wouldn’t make such a large casting out of brass but rather cast iron which the aluminum represents. My opinion only. Make the hinges and latch in brass as they would wear better in everyday usage and look nice too. But of coarse we aren’t doing anything for looks here are we?😂
shelf supports. Nice work!
Looking forward to seeing more.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Hi Joe, well I think a Brass Door, with a window in it! A little Bondo will take care of the porous problem, plus it fulfills the "Sanding" & "Filing" requirements! Looking good so far!
For authenticity's sake an aluminum door is the way to go. Brass is always beautiful though.
Great video.Brass door,Joe-Thank you.
I may do both.