Would love to buy that first caged Durabel if you’re planning to sell it as it and I were born only 2 weeks apart in 1977. We can both celebrate our Birthdays together LOL. Loving this new system already, such a difference in size when you compare the old 6500 panel vs the new Notifier panel. Seems so much smaller and cleaner now.
Just watched this on UA-cam for the first time in 2024. First off, I can't imagine being a kid and going to a school like that and going through every monthly fire drill, covering my ears, knowing that "holy crap, those metal red fire bells are loud" as opposed to the horn strobes here in the US, here in Washington state in my past life and in my childhood growing up and going to school. Some of them were set in Continuous except for the E building and the new high school where both my older brother, my sister-in-law and I attended separately and graduated (voice-activated and in Code 3), and the "Sno- Isle Skills Center" the other High School set to Code 3.
We have to do six fire drills per year here so it isn't quite every month but the kids can cover their ears if they would like but the system has to be under 108 dB to prevent any hearing damage but it also has to be a minimum of 65 dB or 10 over ambient in the classrooms so you have to be somewhere in the middle where you aren't too loud in the corridors and still loud enough in the classrooms
Your addressable fire alarm systems must work differently to those we fit in the UK. I've been wiring notifier pearl panels recently and they have every single device on loops - the two conductors go around every device then back to the panel. Can have up to 150 devices (sounders, break glass, smoke detectors, strobes, relays) on each loop. Last one I wired had one loop with 52 devices on. As far as I know the panel won't allow wiring not in a loop - if you break the loop the panel throws a fault code. If we replace an old fire alarm we put all new wiring in.
North American systems can have loops (class A wiring) for better reliability or can go without loops (class B loops). Class A is generally used for new construction as it is much more reliable. Class B is generally used for retrofitting older buildings like the one in this video. This is done so that the old wiring can be reused.
7:54 Do you see a grey thing on the left wall? It's Edwards Adaptahorn Flush Mounted. There are two in the hallway, and Adaptahorn, used for the school bell and very loud.
That EST QuickStart at that your old middle school is finally getting sacked too eh? Durability test that panel if you can save it. Put 120VAC in the slc and watch the fireworks show. That quickstart definitely deserves to have a Notifier Panel put in its place. I think a nfs-320c will do the trick.
I prefer the Xenon L-Series over the LED models even though I have an LED L-Series. I think they should have kept the Xenon L-Series because the LED L-Series is not listed for FWR but their is still alot of New Old Stock for the Xenon L-Series and unsold Xenon L-Series on eBay and of course the Xenons are still being installed in buildings because they were ordered and assigned before the LED models came out.
@@nics-systems-electricthe datasheet lists only filtered DC as a proper input, but I have a feeling that will be ignored by some people when it comes to replacing failed devices. I have a theory that the fire panel controlled candela setting reserved for future use has something to do with it
@@HenBasketFireAlarms The fire panel controlled setting means they'll be addressable LED L-Series devices that can work on an addressable Honeywell panel with the capability possibly changing the tone and volume through an addressable NAC circuit with a conventional one too like it could happen on the Fire-Lite ES series panels and the Notifier Inspire series panels
Because this isn't a toy system this is real life in the real world you have to install devices that are legally listed and you are going to install what is compatible with the system and system sensor is the best option
We did for the heat detectors but we put metal pull stations so they don't need it maybe got some for the alarms after the fact not sure but this is just an elementary school so they don't break things as much usually it's the after hours user groups
they look good and new. we have our british ones. As in our fire alarm sounders and british i see some off your schools like our fire exit running arrow sighs but its like we say old out in with the NEW!!
@@StuffyUA-cam I have a set channel upload schedule if I uploaded every time I made a video there would be sometimes where you'd have 15 videos in one week and then a month with nothing
@@canadianemergencylights it really comes down to your jurisdiction. My province (might be the same as yours) has electricians performing the field wiring, and a technician programs and verifies they system.
@@ericdircks bro what? Did you just copy and paste someone else's comment? As I said in case you can't read the first comment they only go down at one speed you cannot control the speed it descends.
just wanted to let you know that i was able to figure out your house address fairly easily. i'm not going to expose it or anything like that but i suggest you be careful about things you show in your videos. (it was not this video where i found it, i'm intentionally being vague so other people can't replicate it from this comment.)
I am extremely careful spent many hours on every video editing out information however it is still possible for things to slip through and at the end of the day people can still recognize places it's unfortunate people are after my location but I do everything I can to hide it and that's just the downside of social media
@@nics-systems-electric yeah, it is frustrating that some people try to get their hands on information just so they can use it in a way that makes people angry. dont worry, i will not share your location with anyone.
What a waste of resources and money. They all work fine, why replace them. I get replacing the smoke detectors, but everything else should go to more productive uses.
Preemptive measures to replace old systems before they fail. A system replacement can be completed much more efficiently during a break in school and when all persons and material are lined up and ready for the job.
"usally i don't do durability testing at work" 😂
Yeah lmao
The only way I could do that was if you had to do a lot more work and then you would be done by yourself
You take the old alarms for your collection. But the genie scissor lift ride is fun.
Would love to buy that first caged Durabel if you’re planning to sell it as it and I were born only 2 weeks apart in 1977. We can both celebrate our Birthdays together LOL. Loving this new system already, such a difference in size when you compare the old 6500 panel vs the new Notifier panel. Seems so much smaller and cleaner now.
Haha the moment you stated going in with the lift at 12:48 I recognized the clip from your reels. Good thing it was getting replaced anyway 🤷♂️
12:57 LOL the pull station breaking scared me😂😂😂
Nice to see that other people drive on their gym floors with lifts , I got a bunch of comments complaining how I did on one of my TikTok’s.
Sometimes we put plywood down if it's a heavy big lift this little one seems to not hurt anything
@@nics-systems-electric In the thumbnail, why does the bell have this sort of metal shield around it?
@@The-creator-of-good-videos-15it’s a durabel
@@Idkkkkkkkkkkk2025 Ok…
@@The-creator-of-good-videos-15 when he replaces the bell in the gym, it has it on it
I love seeing these videos. Can’t wait to see part 3 when it comes out
Just watched this on UA-cam for the first time in 2024. First off, I can't imagine being a kid and going to a school like that and going through every monthly fire drill, covering my ears, knowing that "holy crap, those metal red fire bells are loud" as opposed to the horn strobes here in the US, here in Washington state in my past life and in my childhood growing up and going to school. Some of them were set in Continuous except for the E building and the new high school where both my older brother, my sister-in-law and I attended separately and graduated (voice-activated and in Code 3), and the "Sno- Isle Skills Center" the other High School set to Code 3.
We have to do six fire drills per year here so it isn't quite every month but the kids can cover their ears if they would like but the system has to be under 108 dB to prevent any hearing damage but it also has to be a minimum of 65 dB or 10 over ambient in the classrooms so you have to be somewhere in the middle where you aren't too loud in the corridors and still loud enough in the classrooms
@@nics-systems-electric Do you wear headphones when working with fire alarms because I heard the loud and if you do, you should wear them
@@KevinLyons-gn7eu no it's hard to communicate to coworkers if you are wearing headphones
As much as I like bells, yeah, they're LLLOOOUUUDDD
@@xHadesStampstoo loud. I think horn strobes are better for your ears but still extremely loud.
hope you can keep some of the old components, the bells would come in handy to ring in 2025
9:02 What on earth!?!?! I hope you saved that! I've NEVER seen any Edwards bell with one of those cages around it.
Seeing the middle school replacement will be cool
I won't be around for that
Oh okay
noooo...
When is day 3 coming? Cant wait to next video!
I hope to see the programming of the panel! Thanks!
bro destroyed that pull station lol
Nice 😊
You are my favorite youtuber 😊
I always thought the wall material in the gym reminded me of frosted mini wheats!
Your addressable fire alarm systems must work differently to those we fit in the UK. I've been wiring notifier pearl panels recently and they have every single device on loops - the two conductors go around every device then back to the panel. Can have up to 150 devices (sounders, break glass, smoke detectors, strobes, relays) on each loop. Last one I wired had one loop with 52 devices on. As far as I know the panel won't allow wiring not in a loop - if you break the loop the panel throws a fault code. If we replace an old fire alarm we put all new wiring in.
North American systems can have loops (class A wiring) for better reliability or can go without loops (class B loops). Class A is generally used for new construction as it is much more reliable. Class B is generally used for retrofitting older buildings like the one in this video. This is done so that the old wiring can be reused.
7:54 Do you see a grey thing on the left wall? It's Edwards Adaptahorn Flush Mounted. There are two in the hallway, and Adaptahorn, used for the school bell and very loud.
Yup
This has probably got to be one of my favorite videos on you're channel
Cool fire alarm installation.
another great video of real life work!
do you ever sell the old bells ? I am trying to find one for a project but they go for an arm and a leg around here >?
whats the 50 amp outlet for in the gym?
You did change the sensor in the high window area
LMFAO moments:
12:55 Pull Station Rapid Removal
15:54 Pull Station Kung Fu
26:50 Air vent Smash
30:14 Firedoor Wham
Making me nervous on that scissor lift bud. 😭😂
They aren't that bad I prefer them over ladders for sure
@@nics-systems-electric For sure! I get jittery when the extensions start wobbling about halfway up.
'Usually i don't do any durability testing at work'
Proceed to do it🗿🗿 do it part 2
Speaking of led l series it would be cool for that to go in our garage or in the house's garage.
I think in Malaysia it swap bells to LED remote strobes and ceiling mount and simplex Bells
What do you guys do with all the extra keys from the pull station boxes?
Keep them around
@@nics-systems-electricYou never know when you're gonna need a pull starion key 👀
That EST QuickStart at that your old middle school is finally getting sacked too eh? Durability test that panel if you can save it. Put 120VAC in the slc and watch the fireworks show. That quickstart definitely deserves to have a Notifier Panel put in its place. I think a nfs-320c will do the trick.
Notifier panel 😀
Notifier pull stations 😀
Notifier smoke detectors 😀
System Sensor horn/strobes ☹
Nic I think you should turn. I usually don’t do durability testing at work into a meme I think I’ll go viral.
Just curious, why do they want you to have actual EOL plates?
Easier access I guess
That firealarm is the best one I like in this video 9:03
Aka the one in the thumbnail
How much did it cost to replace the fire alarm system?
I don't know
Let me guess 7,000 dollars?
I prefer the Xenon L-Series over the LED models even though I have an LED L-Series. I think they should have kept the Xenon L-Series because the LED L-Series is not listed for FWR but their is still alot of New Old Stock for the Xenon L-Series and unsold Xenon L-Series on eBay and of course the Xenons are still being installed in buildings because they were ordered and assigned before the LED models came out.
I've heard that but I struggled to believe they aren't meant for FWR when they say they are a direct replacement of previous models
@nics-systems-electric i would try to see if mine worked on FWR but I don't wanna risk anything but im sure it would work ok
@@nics-systems-electricthe datasheet lists only filtered DC as a proper input, but I have a feeling that will be ignored by some people when it comes to replacing failed devices. I have a theory that the fire panel controlled candela setting reserved for future use has something to do with it
Hello@@nics-systems-electric
@@HenBasketFireAlarms The fire panel controlled setting means they'll be addressable LED L-Series devices that can work on an addressable Honeywell panel with the capability possibly changing the tone and volume through an addressable NAC circuit with a conventional one too like it could happen on the Fire-Lite ES series panels and the Notifier Inspire series panels
Did you keep the bells with cages
Yes
Anyone else feeling like they’re going to fall when he looks down with the camera??
Why do you always pick Spectralerts? Why not do some other things like an Edwards Integrity or a Wheelock Exceeder for a change?
Because this isn't a toy system this is real life in the real world you have to install devices that are legally listed and you are going to install what is compatible with the system and system sensor is the best option
@@nics-systems-electric oh ok I understand now
@@nics-systems-electric sorry about the stupid question 😄
Very interesting video, I just wonder why you dont put cages around the devices in the gym?
We did for the heat detectors but we put metal pull stations so they don't need it maybe got some for the alarms after the fact not sure but this is just an elementary school so they don't break things as much usually it's the after hours user groups
Do you keep the Durabels?
Good music you were listening at 2:29
Thank god for your vids
Nice work!
What is a portable?
Wasn't that the last 6500 that you worked on?
What exactly is a portable?
Pre-fabricated module classroom building
they look good and new. we have our british ones. As in our fire alarm sounders and british i see some off your schools like our fire exit running arrow sighs but its like we say old out in with the NEW!!
How hard is to replace a fire alarms
Not too hard, just take down the old device, and wire up the new device.
I was still dead back then 😂
When will part 3 come out
My channel schedule is in my description videos are on Wednesday and Saturday with extras occasionally on Monday
13:18 I started chanting “pull it pull it pull it”
By the way what do you do with the old fire alarms?
I keep the stuff I want and the rest gets recycled
I have a fear of heights😂
Ongoing conflict of conflict between a couple and 1:58 1:59 2:00 2:00 2:00 2:00 2:01 2:01 2:01 2:01 2:02 2:02 2:02 2:02 2:02 2:03 2:03 2:03 2:03 2:04 2:04 2:04 2:04 2:04 2:05 2:05 2:05 2:05 2:05 2:06 2:06 2:06 2:06 2:07 2:07 2:07 I was awake
did you disable the system to work on it
There isn't anything to disable there is no operational system
hi is there a part three to this installation video i cant find it
That is out on Wednesday
@@nics-systems-electricSo the videos are spread over a few weeks to keep people watching and waiting? Smart.
@@StuffyUA-cam I have a set channel upload schedule if I uploaded every time I made a video there would be sometimes where you'd have 15 videos in one week and then a month with nothing
@@nics-systems-electric Yeah, I know I saw other comments from you saying that it's Saturday, Wednesday and sometimes Monday.
You put system Sensor L series’ ?
Yep
1:50 wait, they’re going to finally replace that problematic system?
Probably a while away
Wait so where do you learn all the knowledge of how to operate and put devices on a fire alarm control panel, and basically making everything work
You learn the most by actually working on jobs and learning from others and reading manuals and there is definitely lots to learn online as well
Ok that makes sense, thank you for clarifying.
What happens to all the keys?
Where is Friday video?
There aren't videos on Friday my schedule has not changed for the past few years there is a video on Wednesday and Saturday sometimes extras on Monday
@@nics-systems-electricdepending on the time you upload the video it could be on friday or sunday for some people
13:18 the poor pull station
hey nic, what job is this called?
We are electricians I am a apprentice
I though it was like a life safety installer or something
@@canadianemergencylights it really comes down to your jurisdiction.
My province (might be the same as yours) has electricians performing the field wiring, and a technician programs and verifies they system.
13:21 that's going to be expensive to replace
Not really. They are all being replaced anyways.
Crashed into a pull station and it’s broken next time you use the scissor lift slow down 12:48
They only go down at one speed
Crashed Into a Pull Station And It's Broken
Next Time You Use Scissor Lift Slow Down 12:48
@@ericdircks bro what? Did you just copy and paste someone else's comment? As I said in case you can't read the first comment they only go down at one speed you cannot control the speed it descends.
I was the one who put the SponsorBlock highlight at 12:55.
Nice Video Nic
Illegal for the EOLR to be in the back box is crazy
it makes troubleshooting and testing difficult if it's in a device and not easy to find.
@@nics-systems-electric ah now that makes sense!
You guys cant use the temporal 3 3k tone? Its the "smoke alarm" tone
You can't have mixed signals
just wanted to let you know that i was able to figure out your house address fairly easily. i'm not going to expose it or anything like that but i suggest you be careful about things you show in your videos. (it was not this video where i found it, i'm intentionally being vague so other people can't replicate it from this comment.)
Dont talk about it
Dont talk about it
Dont talk about it
I am extremely careful spent many hours on every video editing out information however it is still possible for things to slip through and at the end of the day people can still recognize places it's unfortunate people are after my location but I do everything I can to hide it and that's just the downside of social media
@@nics-systems-electric yeah, it is frustrating that some people try to get their hands on information just so they can use it in a way that makes people angry. dont worry, i will not share your location with anyone.
My school NEEDS new fire alarms a few bells don't work and half of them barely ring
You should do a drill at this school with the new system
Two have already been done it's not one of my school not one of the ones I am at much
8:46 sounds like a tornado siren lol
Yeah kinda sounds like a HOR sirex or Siro drone
12:58 OOF 😢
😂
Make sure you are bringing all of these used systems home…
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You should sell those old fire alarm bells
6:15 that bell looks yummy
Do a exit sign test in your neck video please
That is not part of a fire alarm replacement the videos are already all recorded anyways
Me personally I would have kept that i3
Wheen all dune and all new is in lets have a drill to see and here how it will sound thank you
i like to buy it but i have an sensor alarm
Leave both devices at high volume in the gym
26:47 I’m scared of heights
Never been this early
Scenic I went to that school now I live in the us
I'm sure you did
20:34 My school has that same fire alarm
My school was made in 2007 so no replacement 😂😂😂
It broke the 270SPO 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
16:26 STARE
1:38 Nortel MCIS spotted
13 is unlucky
I like fire alarm
You place fire alarm feu, lift and pull notifier by Honeywell and new smoke alarm thank you nic system fire alarm.
i cant talk for awhile
666th like🎉😳
I went to the school be hind nics house for 1 year
Really?
OMG
What a waste of resources and money. They all work fine, why replace them. I get replacing the smoke detectors, but everything else should go to more productive uses.
Preemptive measures to replace old systems before they fail. A system replacement can be completed much more efficiently during a break in school and when all persons and material are lined up and ready for the job.