Cheating in Competitive Melee

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  • @renamamiya9196
    @renamamiya9196 4 роки тому +7000

    That Pichu player really gave him a smash 4 Cloud Up air

    • @puellabella3580
      @puellabella3580 4 роки тому +424

      I didnt even finish the video and I knew he would get mentioned. Dude was at my locals lol

    • @Newbmann
      @Newbmann 4 роки тому +50

      Well s4 cloud with instead of a disjoint full imoraltality durring the moves hitbox being out so a better s4 cloud up air AND THATS SAYING SOMTHING.

    • @FoxIord
      @FoxIord 4 роки тому +34

      It doesn't even have the ridiculous hitbox below him. It does have invincibility in exchange though.

    • @carson3526
      @carson3526 4 роки тому +2

      Up air wasn't changed outside of the invinciblity.

    • @Newbmann
      @Newbmann 4 роки тому +5

      @@carson3526 no it had its hitbox grown by almost 3 times.

  • @Saiyanryu
    @Saiyanryu 4 роки тому +1031

    6:04 - 6:21 What the Ohio Melee community found out was that Pichu’s goggles are heavy as hell.

    • @raulphilipgoco403
      @raulphilipgoco403 4 роки тому +151

      They also found that Pichu has a invisible Buster sword and that added to his weight.

    • @mortmortington240
      @mortmortington240 2 роки тому +15

      bro has tungsten in his goggles

    • @woodchucksquirrel
      @woodchucksquirrel 3 місяці тому

      what the Ohio???? oh Lord!!!#!!#!#27🙂🙂🙂

  • @Verte7
    @Verte7 3 роки тому +2020

    I really like how you classify assaulting your opponent as a technique

    • @cfino9
      @cfino9 2 роки тому +185

      Believe it or not, it was an actual problem. Screaming in peoples ear was a workaround for a short while, but also got banned.

    • @CoralCopperHead
      @CoralCopperHead 2 роки тому +65

      @@cfino9 As far as I know, the only workaround is mashing buttons as loudly as you can to throw off your opponent, but with how clicky Gamecube controllers are, I doubt the tech is worth a damn in Smash. Legal and effective in more traditional fighters though.

    • @soleous
      @soleous 2 роки тому +11

      @@CoralCopperHead its why a lot of SF players prefer using negative edge for projectile inputs as releasing a button is much quieter than pressing one

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Рік тому +16

      In my youth, it was considered a valid tech, but only against Mortal Kombat uppercut juggles.
      It probably wasn't tournament-legal, but the idea of video game tournaments being a serious thing was still distant.

    • @readyforlol
      @readyforlol Рік тому +6

      Hey, as long as it works !

  • @AnRKader
    @AnRKader 3 роки тому +697

    I love the spooky lead up and reveal to... “master hnad”

    • @jjt171
      @jjt171 3 роки тому +44

      ah yes. master H N A D

    • @gayflower900
      @gayflower900 3 роки тому +32

      Master Huge-Nimble-Appendage-Disembodied
      AKA the dread Master HNAD

    • @crazycsiw128
      @crazycsiw128 2 роки тому +8

      "mister hend"

    • @thesatelliteever
      @thesatelliteever 4 місяці тому

      matter hamd

  • @ShibuNub3305
    @ShibuNub3305 2 роки тому +3310

    A little known fact about the Pichu player is that he later went on to sneak into Nintendo headquarters and discretely alter the code of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate as revenge, resulting in Pre-Patch Pichu

    • @eurybiaball63
      @eurybiaball63 2 роки тому +76

      I agree with that comment

    • @zaneplayx3176
      @zaneplayx3176 2 роки тому +24

      Actually?

    • @Rezim942
      @Rezim942 2 роки тому +316

      @@zaneplayx3176 probably not, but given the man is from Ohio, i wouldnt completely disregard that possibility, even if it is just a meme

    • @8.bitfan
      @8.bitfan 2 роки тому +22

      I kinda love the fact that i got pre patch pichu for a bit

    • @GoldInk-ds5up
      @GoldInk-ds5up 2 роки тому +24

      ​@@Rezim942 Ohio moment

  • @yeetusskeetus884
    @yeetusskeetus884 4 роки тому +4365

    The pichu player probably just ported pre-patch ultimate pichu into melee.

    • @Joltz9
      @Joltz9 4 роки тому +211

      a man way before his time

    • @Max-qb5ui
      @Max-qb5ui 4 роки тому +42

      They gutted Pichu lmao

    • @mashtonish
      @mashtonish 4 роки тому +149

      some say "hacked" some say "patched"

    • @neophyte_tpk
      @neophyte_tpk 4 роки тому +38

      From the Wii? His dad must've worked at Nintendo

    • @mechanicalmacbook
      @mechanicalmacbook 4 роки тому +10

      and it's the launch pichu back in 1.0.0

  • @GCLU
    @GCLU 4 роки тому +2697

    Ken's response to that Pichu incident is still rather hilarious.
    "The best part is that he could've just played Pikachu"
    His tag was xChaos/Chaos

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 4 роки тому +130

      Aye. the range, the weight, the fact that it hurts itself....

    • @givecamichips
      @givecamichips 4 роки тому +145

      The main problem is that everyone has seen enough Pikachu to know something is up. With Pichu, if you never played casually you may have legit never seen this version of Pichu played before.

    • @TheIdiothead
      @TheIdiothead 4 роки тому +405

      @@givecamichips I think that what Ken was trying to say is that if you want to play a stronger version of pichu, then you don’t have to cheat. You can just play pikachu instead

    • @givecamichips
      @givecamichips 4 роки тому +37

      @@TheIdiothead Well yeah, obviously. But the guy made Pichu better than Pikachu.

    • @Tyrga
      @Tyrga 4 роки тому +1

      @@givecamichips who me?

  • @phanta8880
    @phanta8880 4 роки тому +4955

    Ahh, yes the only character in this game that’s banned. “Master Hnad.”

    • @diegodankquixote-wry3242
      @diegodankquixote-wry3242 4 роки тому +191

      If I played melee I would main fighting polygon (male) and fight for him to be recognized by the community and he put at the bottom of every tier list.

    • @Platitudinous9000
      @Platitudinous9000 4 роки тому +227

      Every game has a character who either gets banned or is considered for a ban. Master Hnad, Meta Knihgt, Bayonteta...

    • @siddarthselvarajan2667
      @siddarthselvarajan2667 4 роки тому +17

      i was gonna type that lol

    • @phanta8880
      @phanta8880 4 роки тому +2

      @@siddarthselvarajan2667 rip

    • @lycantubeves5992
      @lycantubeves5992 4 роки тому +19

      Crazy hand: am I a joke to you!?

  • @brianthomas7688
    @brianthomas7688 3 роки тому +1870

    Nice, sleek editing. No eyesore, no forced gags and memes, just straight to the point with some light humor.

  • @underkanal3656
    @underkanal3656 3 роки тому +424

    "Fox prayed from bottom of his heart"
    "HIYAAAAAAAA"
    That got me laughing

    • @GP423
      @GP423 Рік тому +10

      one could say he called upon a HIYAAAAA power

    • @SWAGMONEY_DX
      @SWAGMONEY_DX 8 місяців тому

      ​@@GP423 +2

  • @The_Meev
    @The_Meev 4 роки тому +3364

    Makes me wonder how that Pichu player thought he wouldn't get caught when he made such massive and noticeable changes to the character

    • @hamiltoncarvalhoii9403
      @hamiltoncarvalhoii9403 4 роки тому +560

      honestly had he just kept his cool he wouldn't have gotten caught in the first place. The idea was genius and no one would of expected it in a million years, at least until he got to majors

    • @paniccat
      @paniccat 4 роки тому +134

      He was probably just doing it for the lulz

    • @Newbmann
      @Newbmann 4 роки тому +563

      He could have done it if he used pichu as a secondary and did freindlys with his main Its as simple most low or bottem tiers are so underused most people dont know there hitboxes in the moment off the top of there heads
      Ok that F Smash easily could have given it away KILLING EARLYER THAN FULL CHARGE TIPPER MARTH ok thats obvious.

    • @The_Meev
      @The_Meev 4 роки тому +544

      @@Newbmann Yeah, that's the thing that got me the most. Hitboxes? Sure, they looked a little jank but nobody pays attention to stuff like that on low tiers. F-Smash killing full screen at 20%? Nobody's gonna buy that for a second.

    • @privatepessleneck
      @privatepessleneck 4 роки тому +164

      cheaters are not really people to put in effort to cover their tracks, I mean they didn't put the effort to just try their best without cheats.

  • @MasonEricPatterson
    @MasonEricPatterson 4 роки тому +2417

    The way this guy buffed Pichu and thought no one would notice has me DYING

    • @aperson7303
      @aperson7303 3 роки тому +234

      Lol he forcing everyone to play his busted game was hilarious enough

    • @thatdude3977
      @thatdude3977 3 роки тому +51

      Lmfao 😹
      True!!! But to think there is already a character in the game that can kill you at 30%

    • @Jotari
      @Jotari 3 роки тому +256

      Changing the forward smash damage is the most ludicrous for me. Like, sure, extending hit boxes and ending lag, that's something that might pass unnoticed. Some characters have jank hit boxes. But come on dude, people are going to notice when your smash does literally double the percent damage that is clearly visible on screen.

    • @crisismoon880
      @crisismoon880 3 роки тому +3

      Hollow

    • @adrifitz8793
      @adrifitz8793 3 роки тому +121

      @@Jotari honestly he should have gone the full mile and just make all of his moves kill at zero since the bastard thought no one would find it off that his f-smash killed at 35.

  • @jamonesbaratoskim8039
    @jamonesbaratoskim8039 4 роки тому +835

    when he makes a new video i think: "that´s it there´s nothing else left on melee" but he keps surprising me and i like it

    • @WinterShorts0
      @WinterShorts0 4 роки тому +28

      Something new with Melee everytime, from a completely new combo (like what Armada did to leffen that one time) to a new historical event in Melee, for a 2-decade year old game it's surprising how new it gets.

  • @comfyasf
    @comfyasf 3 роки тому +159

    6:54
    Those hands mean nothing to the average person, but people in the melee community can feel their aura

  • @popsodarootbeers
    @popsodarootbeers 4 роки тому +159

    In case anyone was wondering, ledge grabs are counted and displayed in the results screen after the match ends, so no, you don't have to review the footage and count to be sure. The Melee devs really thought of everything*!

    • @mordeymay3739
      @mordeymay3739 5 місяців тому +8

      Except for finishing Game and Watch

    • @icedlava7063
      @icedlava7063 5 місяців тому +2

      @@mordeymay3739 yes that's the joke

  • @gab_gabriel7091
    @gab_gabriel7091 4 роки тому +3257

    Imagine playing a set on a hacked version of Melee and Mew2King goes up to you, puts his hand on your shoulder and goes "That's one interesting Pichu you got there..."

    • @Freefork
      @Freefork 4 роки тому +291

      Hacker: Like my F-smash?
      M2K: You will expose our secrets if you keep this up. Play some friendlies and stop forward smashing.
      Hungry box: Teehee, the Edge removed 59 seconds off the timer.

    • @aetherius6221
      @aetherius6221 3 роки тому +86

      I mean he is the original frame data miner

    • @laytonjr6601
      @laytonjr6601 3 роки тому +236

      @@aetherius6221 He didn't data mined the frames, he measured them in game by pausing repetitively.

    • @aetherius6221
      @aetherius6221 3 роки тому +67

      @@laytonjr6601 more in concept than literally but yeah

    • @lonk_skonk
      @lonk_skonk 3 роки тому +5

      I'd sweat bullets

  • @Grgrqr
    @Grgrqr 4 роки тому +1305

    “Cheating”
    “Intelligent bypass of the rule set”

    • @maxbasilone3026
      @maxbasilone3026 4 роки тому +42

      I wouldn't call hacking your main's weight so fox can waveshine you across Battlefield intelligent.

    • @Forthelemon
      @Forthelemon 4 роки тому +2

      @@maxbasilone3026 p sure waveshining is based on traction, not weight or fall speed. Peach is one of the lightest and floatiest characters and is also one of the easiest to waveshine. Increasing Pichu's fall speed is overall a buff imo but there are some downsides

    • @LuigiLitoLL
      @LuigiLitoLL 4 роки тому +9

      @@Forthelemon nope it's based on weight, anyone lower than marths weight can't get waveshined, Peach is above marth.

    • @Forthelemon
      @Forthelemon 4 роки тому

      @@LuigiLitoLL oh wow ok I had no idea

    • @Snowballsage
      @Snowballsage 4 роки тому

      @@Forthelemon 6:12

  • @BeatRiceIsHere
    @BeatRiceIsHere 4 роки тому +1312

    These 3D model edits are so good I’m starting to become suspicious that they’re the reason it takes a while for a video to come out

    • @Snowcen
      @Snowcen 4 роки тому +6

      what are you talking about?

    • @nyatrue401
      @nyatrue401 4 роки тому +48

      I think he’s joking, implying he thinks the smash bros models are animated by asum himself.

    • @Snowcen
      @Snowcen 4 роки тому +1

      @@nyatrue401 oh ok, that makes some sense

    • @BeatRiceIsHere
      @BeatRiceIsHere 4 роки тому +80

      Whoops my bad, meant to say “edits” instead of animations, either way it’s still really good editing

    • @cinnamonnoir2487
      @cinnamonnoir2487 4 роки тому +19

      Conspiracy Theory: AsumSaus works really hard on his videos.
      I don't know, man. That's pretty out there.

  • @bveeze
    @bveeze 3 роки тому +80

    4:25 “Master Hnad”

  • @thestanman1486
    @thestanman1486 3 роки тому +52

    Guys, he's been active on Twitter for awhile. He just took a small break but recently got back into making videos. And a video is planned to go up very soon.

    • @gucci_vsause1778
      @gucci_vsause1778 3 роки тому +1

      Let’s go

    • @trashgang_
      @trashgang_ 3 роки тому +2

      Thanks, I was honestly starting to think something serious might've happened since this channel hasn't seen any activity in 4 months and I don't have Twitter.

  • @GimR
    @GimR 4 роки тому +4426

    Great video as always! Regarding tournaments, hacking will never work in a substantial way. Once pools start there are people on all setups and Pool Captains watching over. Most pools also have 4 setups. So if they did sneak their game on it they would be suspect if they didn't listen to the pool captain to play on an open setup and continually asked to play on one. They'd likely be denied as the pool needs to be finished in a timely manner too. Also, Stream setups would never have this happen to them. So if someone did sneak it in, they'd get a buff for a round or 2 and it's just not worth being banned from the entire community for a few cheap wins. This is why the one Pichu player at a local is the only recorded version of this type of cheating (that I know of at least.)

    • @blackdot105
      @blackdot105 4 роки тому +70

      Let's hope it stays at the one Pichu player.

    • @jaysefgames1155
      @jaysefgames1155 4 роки тому +197

      If I was to do something like this, I wouldn't even buff anyone specifically. I'd just jank up the game a little and make people think the game was just bugging

    • @cullenhutchison6528
      @cullenhutchison6528 4 роки тому +42

      This may be true, for larger tournaments at least. But for smaller tournaments or locals without pools or anything, especially those where people find their own matches, it is more likely to be an issue, and while thousands of dollars won't be on the line, there is still money to be won or lost. I think the reason there hasn't been another case is because either nobody who would be willing to cheat knows how to not get caught and they don't want to risk being banned, or this has happened more in isolated incidents that people don't talk about or maybe didn't even realize at the time. The point is, people still need to be careful and have a solution in mind, just in case.

    • @Laxhax123
      @Laxhax123 4 роки тому +3

      Guess I’ll head back to the lab again to find a better method...

    • @andreaskrlev4376
      @andreaskrlev4376 4 роки тому +26

      There are cases where people could cheat without it being immideatly noticeable. If anyone remembers 0.9x knockback incident, it's not completely unlikely for someone to modify a setup in such a slight way where it wasn't immideatly noticeable

  • @marayno1
    @marayno1 4 роки тому +622

    Ah yes, my favorite method of cheating at melee
    "Assaulting your opponent"

    • @Agamemnon2
      @Agamemnon2 3 роки тому +38

      I know it's happened in MTG once or twice. There's a couple people with lifetime bans from all organized tournaments because of assaulting either other attendees, or tournament staff.

    • @GumshoeClassic
      @GumshoeClassic 3 роки тому +22

      If people can stab each other over playing cards or painted plastic (or resin... or... *shudders* finecast) figurines, they can start doing the same over a video game.

    • @KopperNeoman
      @KopperNeoman 3 роки тому +2

      @Agamemnon2 Better than Jeremy who got lifetime banned for helping expose pedos.

    • @Saltyoven
      @Saltyoven 2 роки тому +13

      I mean wasn't there that one Brawl money match against an ice climber main, who got out of chain grabs by repeatedly screaming in the guy's ear?

    • @memenazi7078
      @memenazi7078 2 роки тому +2

      @@Saltyoven
      In his ear*
      move your ear then it ain’t hard to wobble

  • @lightning3170
    @lightning3170 4 роки тому +42

    I've literally never played a game of melee in my life but your content is really entertaining :)

  • @givecamichips
    @givecamichips 3 роки тому +23

    4:44 For his side special, he wields a gun.

  • @InfernoOmni
    @InfernoOmni 4 роки тому +2732

    Just got finish binging all your videos. I don’t even care for most of the subjects but you have perfected the art of film making. Literally cannot stop watching your content.

    • @TallerVision
      @TallerVision 3 роки тому +7

      Hi omni

    • @creme923
      @creme923 3 роки тому +11

      lay yourself omni

    • @pasta-and-heroin
      @pasta-and-heroin 3 роки тому +13

      yeah dude this is exactly what I was thinking (: I'm the same, never got into smash but I always love well-crafted media made by someone who clearly cares deeply for whatever interest it is

    • @Kyoko_
      @Kyoko_ 3 роки тому +3

      What kind of weirdo watches videos where they don't care about the subject? You are strange, but certainly there is content out there that is better for your strange tendencies.

    • @pasta-and-heroin
      @pasta-and-heroin 3 роки тому +12

      @@Kyoko_ what a silly thing to say. how do you find new things? how does your taste evolve? You’re the strange one, big fella

  • @DerfMW
    @DerfMW 4 роки тому +238

    I'm a TO from NEOH and it's actually become sort of common practice for TOs here to provide setups most of the time. We don't actually have hard rules about it, but for the weeklies we were running prior to the pandemic we had about 30 modded wiis and a decent number of CRTs stored at our venue. Whenever we run larger events we do allow players to bring their own setups, but they need to comply to our rules about them and are run off of our memory cards. It's not really possible to completely avoid the possibility of cheating at larger events, but with all these things in place it makes it pretty difficult.
    Also I just want to add that I am the only player from our PR at the time who has a 2-0 record over super pichu.

    • @thegreenitalianmachine5411
      @thegreenitalianmachine5411 4 роки тому +6

      Huh, so how does being a TO Work, really?
      Also, A Positive record against Super Pichu, that's really good.

    • @DerfMW
      @DerfMW 4 роки тому +15

      @@thegreenitalianmachine5411 that's a pretty big question, there are a lot of different aspects to TOing. Running smaller weeklies and stuff is pretty self explanatory, but with bigger events you need to devote a lot more focus into advertisement and figuring out how to get your community interested.

    • @KopperNeoman
      @KopperNeoman 3 роки тому +4

      @Stevean2 If the players fall for it, what can the TO do, drag them in?

    • @psymar
      @psymar 2 роки тому +4

      @@KopperNeoman He's talking about COVID, I'm sorry to say.

  • @Ludvix
    @Ludvix 4 роки тому +2109

    good ol days of botting in runescape and running hacks on minecaft

  • @jakegwolford
    @jakegwolford 3 роки тому +4

    Great video, found your channel yesterday and can’t stop watching. I’m an Ultimate player but this makes me wish Nintendo would step up and support the Melee community. You guys are super dedicated and it sucks to see so many fixable issues-port priority and Luigi’s down special from one of your other videos blew my mind.

  • @jasonjacobs176
    @jasonjacobs176 4 роки тому +4

    I hope you don’t stop finding interesting ssb things to talk about however, I would watch most any game you talk about with this level of production and analysis; keep going mr.sauce!

  • @sp1nda
    @sp1nda 4 роки тому +356

    It is so crazy to have one of my friends through the competitive melee scene growing up be so infamous for cheating w/ Pichu lmao. I stg I was the first person to play against super pichu but didn't know it at the time.

    • @10kedited
      @10kedited 3 роки тому +8

      Wow

    • @crowns9966
      @crowns9966 3 роки тому +25

      Lmao super pichu 🤣

    • @memenazi7078
      @memenazi7078 3 роки тому +5

      Know anything about it? What was this dude’s motive lol

    • @LolLol-kv9gd
      @LolLol-kv9gd 3 роки тому +6

      @@memenazi7078 he was probably trolling

    • @hdfz4362
      @hdfz4362 3 роки тому +11

      @@memenazi7078 Mental & family issues, used the game as an escape

  • @volt7958
    @volt7958 4 роки тому +134

    3:15 "which was also the last time a mario player won anything"
    WHO'S LAUGHING NOW HUH

    • @RamzaBeoulves
      @RamzaBeoulves 4 роки тому +2

      Why you gotta do us like that :(

    • @windy2478
      @windy2478 4 роки тому

      Can someone explain?

    • @thesuntitan
      @thesuntitan 4 роки тому +4

      @@windy2478 it’s a reference to his last video iirc

  • @xanthangum1217
    @xanthangum1217 4 роки тому +103

    "Or assulting them"
    Great technique, use it all the time

    • @arnox4554
      @arnox4554 4 роки тому +22

      I'm a big proponent of the slapping-controller-out-of-hand technique.

    • @Freefork
      @Freefork 4 роки тому +8

      I beat them up in the game if they piss me off in real life.
      If I like them, I spam grabs so I can hug them to death.
      Too bad snake isn't in Melee.

    • @nahor88
      @nahor88 4 роки тому +4

      And the end of the day, Smash is a variation of sports, and real life sports can get physical. You have someone right next to you you're trying to beat, and we're human. Emotions can get the better of us.
      Point being, I'm a bit surprised there haven't been more instances of physical assault at a Smash tournament.

    • @derekmann8239
      @derekmann8239 4 роки тому +4

      Can't lose to your opponent if you Epstein them with the controller cord

    • @memenazi7078
      @memenazi7078 3 роки тому

      @@nahor88 the fear

  • @superpianoman4109
    @superpianoman4109 3 роки тому +3

    I just watched everything asumsaus has to offer, coming for you archivesaus!

  • @MishKoz
    @MishKoz 4 роки тому +195

    6:38 I almost expected you to say "He was hired as a developer for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate"

    • @magneticflux-
      @magneticflux- 4 роки тому +4

      Hey, it's that guy!

    • @deathrod123
      @deathrod123 4 роки тому +8

      @@magneticflux- (he made all known deaths on icarly)

    • @SommerSen
      @SommerSen 4 роки тому +1

      The Ultimate iceberg

    • @user-et3xn2jm1u
      @user-et3xn2jm1u 4 роки тому +9

      That cheater's name? Albert Einstein.

    • @catisticallyspeaking
      @catisticallyspeaking 4 роки тому +2

      Implying Nintendo likes either the Melee community or People who make mods

  • @BananaHatProductions
    @BananaHatProductions 4 роки тому +78

    Yes! Another video from the best creator. Some of the best content on UA-cam, keep it up 👍🏼

  • @Emerald29
    @Emerald29 4 роки тому +486

    The Pichu cheater could've just upped the hitbox, and damage a lil bit, and probably decrease the end lag for a few frames and no one will detect him, instead of increasing everything to the extreme.

    • @cinnamonnoir2487
      @cinnamonnoir2487 4 роки тому +128

      In that case he probably wouldn't have won, though. Pichu is a terrible character.

    • @ubermaster1
      @ubermaster1 4 роки тому +87

      Sadly it wouldn't have been enough. Pichu is THAT bad

    • @debornmc
      @debornmc 3 роки тому +5

      exactly

    • @3kojimbles895
      @3kojimbles895 3 роки тому +27

      go pichu, and zap to the extreme

    • @bacheese
      @bacheese 3 роки тому +2

      He was just that bad

  • @silly_mane5239
    @silly_mane5239 4 роки тому +3

    I actually love your grunt and scream sound effects

  • @flaregamer64
    @flaregamer64 3 роки тому +79

    Missing him badly Right Now

    • @runic3338
      @runic3338 3 роки тому

      Do you know where he went?

    • @flaregamer64
      @flaregamer64 3 роки тому +1

      @@runic3338 He posted a video teaser some time ago but not much has been heard from him otherwise.

    • @shromp2034
      @shromp2034 3 роки тому

      Boy do I have some news for you

    • @flaregamer64
      @flaregamer64 3 роки тому +3

      @@shromp2034 Yeah I saw the new video. Worth the wait.

  • @_-Dante-_
    @_-Dante-_ 4 роки тому +429

    No one talking about when Hbox had his mom win for him...

    • @jman2050
      @jman2050 4 роки тому +81

      Turns out Armada also had a stand-in playing that match for him cause he was too busy grinding for 70 star PBs instead. They just replayed the match later.

    • @jamonesbaratoskim8039
      @jamonesbaratoskim8039 4 роки тому +25

      also b0nd played for n0ne and scorpion marster played for mang0

    • @remix2593
      @remix2593 4 роки тому +61

      hungrybox was in need of a major comeback

    • @Oboromaru
      @Oboromaru 4 роки тому +3

      I have nothing witty to add but Dante your icon is godlike LMAO

    • @salj.5459
      @salj.5459 4 роки тому

      jman2050 Context?

  • @joshcummins3916
    @joshcummins3916 4 роки тому +62

    4:25 hand is spelled wrong. Awesome video man. I really love the effort you put into the thumbnails and covering topics most people in the community don't talk about.

    • @vincentvalentine9906
      @vincentvalentine9906 2 роки тому +4

      I've seen this video a good couple of times, and I've never noticed that once. I guess the editing is so good I just didn't see it.

  • @Someonewithaspace
    @Someonewithaspace 4 роки тому +277

    *Fox has left the game (VAC Banned from secure server)*
    *Pichu has left the game (VAC Banned from secure server)*

    • @burritoman2k
      @burritoman2k 4 роки тому +30

      Bold of you to assume VAC actually works

    • @liamschermer7901
      @liamschermer7901 4 роки тому +27

      "imagine your hacks being so bad that Vac detects them"
      This post was made by MYGOT gang

    • @Kimarnic
      @Kimarnic 4 роки тому +1

      bot rolled

    • @nuulcoolpro
      @nuulcoolpro 4 роки тому +1

      Hahhaha guys please laugh I'm making a source reference lmaoooo XD engineer gaming

    • @Someonewithaspace
      @Someonewithaspace 4 роки тому +1

      @@nuulcoolpro and what did ya wanted me to make?
      a Easy Anti-cheat reference??

  • @neosquid9609
    @neosquid9609 3 роки тому +9

    1:40 That Jigglypuff transition was slick.

  • @superlounging
    @superlounging 4 роки тому +1

    Interesting and entertaining as always, great video; probably my favorite music choices out of any other on the channel.

  • @MrGawa-gv3kb
    @MrGawa-gv3kb 4 роки тому +171

    “Master Hnad”

  • @PadChennington
    @PadChennington 4 роки тому +12

    your videos are so well made. amazing job dude

    • @cheesewizz_
      @cheesewizz_ 10 місяців тому +1

      sorry bout yer jets this year, pad

    • @PadChennington
      @PadChennington 10 місяців тому

      all I know is pain@@cheesewizz_

  • @starfalltea
    @starfalltea 4 роки тому +9

    even though i don't play melee and never plan to competitively, i love your editing and humor! subscribed for it!

  • @Frog101_Real
    @Frog101_Real 3 роки тому +48

    And when the world needed him most, he vanished.

  • @Mote.
    @Mote. 3 роки тому +6

    All your videos are beautifully edited. I like the part at 5:13 of falco

  • @DrCoeloCephalo
    @DrCoeloCephalo 4 роки тому +81

    Imagine unironically still saying "Wavedashing is just cheating and a glitch!" when an actual cheating glitch involves freezing the player animation with Ice Climbers or playing as Master Hnad.

    • @RagnellAvalon
      @RagnellAvalon 4 роки тому +3

      ua-cam.com/video/GChcjSvTtWE/v-deo.html using freeze glitch on your own teammate to edgeguard Fox
      Not only for offense, it's for defense too!

    • @YounesLayachi
      @YounesLayachi 4 роки тому +1

      ICs freeze glitch was patched in latest melee patch, while wavedashing was not

    • @badatmathhh
      @badatmathhh 4 роки тому +6

      Wait there are people that consider it a glitch?? Wave-dashing is definitely just an exploit as it's using an intended feature (directional dodging) an in unintended way (directional dodging towards the ground to keep you moment without any lag)

    • @RagnellAvalon
      @RagnellAvalon 4 роки тому +6

      @@badatmathhh sweet summer child

    • @sobbing_horse
      @sobbing_horse 4 роки тому

      @@YounesLayachi why would you patch something thats not a glitch lmao

  • @SonicTheCutehog
    @SonicTheCutehog 4 роки тому +24

    That hacked Pichu really has bigger hitboxes than most characters in the game.

  • @TheHeteroHero
    @TheHeteroHero 4 роки тому +39

    Was already getting bored of watching your other videos repeatedly.
    Jokes aside, I'm always super glad to see your high quality uploads!
    Cheers

  • @ethanreynolds4942
    @ethanreynolds4942 Рік тому +1

    Dude, you have had impeccable video creation for years. I can tell your skill has grown in your later videos, but hot dog your older videos still hold that amazing content creation skill. This channel sits high above so many other channels with so many more subs. I am not into melee. Not really anyways. Haven't played since I was a kid. However, I'm glued to every video you have made. The mark of a true creator.

    • @twelvevoltage
      @twelvevoltage 11 місяців тому +1

      Ikr were so blessed to have such amazing content creators

  • @danteydantes8415
    @danteydantes8415 3 роки тому +7

    the fact that when playing with master hand you can say "and for his side special, gun" and press B + left/right

  • @tofu4435
    @tofu4435 4 роки тому +12

    As someone who doesn't play melee at all, your vids are just so awesome and entertaining that it encourages me to start playing melee more.

    • @MrNapkino
      @MrNapkino 4 роки тому

      Melee is sick and super fun to get into, I highly recommend it.

  • @BigothyArchibaldBusiness
    @BigothyArchibaldBusiness 4 роки тому +7

    Dude, loved the Sly 3 soundtrack in the video. Venice Espionage fit WAY more well than I thought. Ironically played during the hackrd Pichu game. Should definently play more of it in the future! Keep up the banger work! 👌

    • @charKT-7461
      @charKT-7461 4 роки тому +1

      It was actually the Sly 4 song "I smell a rat". Still awesome regardless

    • @BigothyArchibaldBusiness
      @BigothyArchibaldBusiness 4 роки тому

      @@charKT-7461 by that standward would that song be based on Venice Espionage? Sounds exactly the same. Lol

  • @Mahamaru
    @Mahamaru 4 роки тому +18

    I was today years old when I heard Dean Harrington say "Master Hayn"

  • @PigsSSBM
    @PigsSSBM 4 роки тому +2

    I love all your little background Easter eggs

  • @Diwasho
    @Diwasho 3 роки тому +4

    1:20 I had NO idea Dedede flies by in the BG of this stage and I played so much on it. Somehow never noticed him.

  • @itsthatspicymeme
    @itsthatspicymeme 4 роки тому +234

    I don't cheat. I'm just THAT good.

    • @isaaccruz7080
      @isaaccruz7080 4 роки тому +2

      Why the fuck you llllyyyyyin (IDC If it's ded)

    • @MixyTape
      @MixyTape 4 роки тому

      ok

    • @landronsc
      @landronsc 4 роки тому +16

      I dont cheat either. Im just not good

    • @ajeremykidxd
      @ajeremykidxd 4 роки тому +5

      He isn't cheating. He just have a really good gaming chair.

    • @muhammadalvinza9013
      @muhammadalvinza9013 4 роки тому +3

      I cheat. Im just *that* bad.

  • @ahmadkazan7994
    @ahmadkazan7994 4 роки тому +16

    Ultimate players:Sonic is so campy!
    Meanwhile planking in melee: *laughs*

  • @ERRORDownBad
    @ERRORDownBad 4 роки тому +143

    Imagine being the dude who came into a tournament with a modded Project M just to have custom skins and no modified attacks and gets banned.

    • @ChainChomp
      @ChainChomp 4 роки тому +14

      Doesn't most tourneys use a custom build of PM anyways?

    • @ChainChomp
      @ChainChomp 4 роки тому +1

      @@jakedadoge1820 Exactly, modifications to the PSAs themselves rather than to costumes.

    • @ERRORDownBad
      @ERRORDownBad 4 роки тому

      @@ChainChomp Does the "Check the framedata" forbid characters like Scott Pilgrim over Lucas and/or Cloud over Ike?

    • @ChainChomp
      @ChainChomp 4 роки тому

      @@ERRORDownBad If those aren't costumes, then IDK how could you sneak that.

    • @marisanya
      @marisanya 4 роки тому

      Going to PM tournaments with custom mods is completely normal tho

  • @ShadowedKami
    @ShadowedKami 3 роки тому +14

    4:36 nice Earthbound reference.

  • @cgnfake6721
    @cgnfake6721 4 роки тому +3

    2:02 you can feel the unbridled rage with those sfx LMAO

  • @Pennywise12528
    @Pennywise12528 4 роки тому +6

    When you said Master Hand was the only banned accessible character, I loved the implication that Giga Bowser would be tourney legal, so I went to refresh my memory on if that name glitch thing can let you play as him too.
    Found a video where Mew2king came across a Giga Bowser in some online Melee thing, and on the fly devised an anti-Giga strat to beat him soundly in the rematch.
    Well fuck me then.

  • @adriannaranjo4397
    @adriannaranjo4397 4 роки тому +12

    6:21
    If Pichu was a DLC character

  • @DementedDuskull
    @DementedDuskull 4 роки тому +20

    Honestly I'm actually kinda impressed by how sneaky that Pichu player was

  • @Ezonater
    @Ezonater 3 роки тому +1

    The song choices on these videos are always awesome

  • @genuinelymoist73
    @genuinelymoist73 3 роки тому +3

    I hope you never run out of things to talk about with Melee. Or you can transition to covering another game comfortably. I just don't want you to leave us. I love you so much. You're my world.

  • @sobo4676
    @sobo4676 4 роки тому +11

    Love the sly Cooper music in the back. Nostalgia.

  • @pandabanaan9208
    @pandabanaan9208 4 роки тому +17

    0:35 Jokes on you I already sold my soul.

    • @walesjedi9217
      @walesjedi9217 2 роки тому +4

      I tried to but all he offered was 62 cents

    • @TheWorldsLargestOven
      @TheWorldsLargestOven Рік тому +1

      I sold my soul to the devil without even knowing what im gonna get

    • @pandabanaan9208
      @pandabanaan9208 Рік тому +1

      @@TheWorldsLargestOven lootboxes really are getting insane

  • @Borti_Ovi
    @Borti_Ovi 4 роки тому +64

    Of course there will always be some cheating when there’s money involved, especially in Esports!

    • @zzzlucid_dreams7560
      @zzzlucid_dreams7560 4 роки тому +4

      Yeah I guess but just one guy at a local in the almost 20 years this game has been out with no way to cheat online other than lag switchs is pretty solid. I pretty much only play smash and its crazy to me that pretty much every prodigy in non fighting games gets accused of being a cheater for the first year of there competitive life. You cant even stream snipe or anything because they see the same thing as you. Some times I'm really thankful I got into Melee expectually with roll back online now. You dont have to worry about a troll ruining the experience for like 10 people at a time.

    • @Borti_Ovi
      @Borti_Ovi 4 роки тому +5

      @@zzzlucid_dreams7560
      That actually surprised me that there are very little cases of actual cheating in Melee’s tournament history and only one worthy of mentioning! Even the “wobbling” and “Luigi ladder” exploit shouldn’t be classified as “cheating” because they are in-game exploits and only counted as such by tournament rule-makers.

  • @matthewwylie2735
    @matthewwylie2735 3 роки тому +7

    1:08
    I read that as "Stalling, or excessively delaying the Game and Watch"

  • @stingyryy
    @stingyryy 3 роки тому

    Literally listened to tons of your videos while working, then got home and played a bunch of games with you on Slippi last night. I was the marth with the tag "stingy" GG's! Love the vids.

  • @sandros.6371
    @sandros.6371 4 роки тому +7

    Fully expected you to talk about sunglasses Juan "reading" down throw DI by peaking at his opponents controllers like a real champ

  • @marxssweetass6118
    @marxssweetass6118 4 роки тому +354

    I'm just imagining a match between two Master Hands looking like a very complicated handshake.

    • @lily_littleangel
      @lily_littleangel 2 роки тому +19

      Unfortunately, if I read this correctly, master hand can only be played by player 3 so sadly two players can't both be the hand.

    • @Kapenguin448
      @Kapenguin448 2 роки тому +6

      @@lily_littleangel This makes me wonder, is it possible for one player to be Master Hand and another player to be Crazy Hand?

    • @Kohchu
      @Kohchu 2 роки тому +27

      @@Kapenguin448 Using a Pro Action Replay, it is possible to allow Players to play as Both Master hand, and Crazy Hand, yes. And like Master Hand; Crazy Hand is fully actionable.
      In Addition; some moves cause Master Hand to produce Sparks, and freeze. This is actually the trigger for Crazy Hand to do a dual tech, and if he uses the same ability that Master Hand did to generate the sparks; he will use the Dual Tech with him (Either the Double Clap, Double Punch, or Knuckleduster).
      Currently, there is no known legit way to unlock Crazy Hand. The Master Hand method is a glitch caused by proceeding to the selection screen without picking a character; which then selects a default value in the code, which happens to be Master Hand. Perhaps one day, someone will figure out a way to trigger Crazy Hand the same way.

    • @vivelespatat2670
      @vivelespatat2670 Рік тому

      ​@@Kohchuthe Crazy Hand is real!

  • @evaggelos6516
    @evaggelos6516 4 роки тому +53

    Legend has it that this video was the cause of competitive hacking, which has now risen by 30000%.

    • @pokeman123451
      @pokeman123451 4 роки тому +1

      i could believe this. ive actually been worried about iso modding for a while lol

  • @AmiiboDoctor
    @AmiiboDoctor 4 роки тому +4

    That last one reminds me of some of the issues with cheating we've had in competitive amiibo

  • @Leletoas
    @Leletoas Рік тому +1

    The thumbnail looks like fox and falco crash landed onto the pichu planet and are about to get mauled to death

  • @gmangabs
    @gmangabs Рік тому +5

    0:13 for those who are wondering the homework says draw a character and it said say his name and it was falco and a drawing of someone with thick arms

  • @aericraadley
    @aericraadley 4 роки тому +12

    0:57 lol i just watched Rocky III last night too haha perfect timing

  • @supershadow125
    @supershadow125 4 роки тому +7

    I appreciate the doom noises, they made me bust a gut this morning

  • @pasta-and-heroin
    @pasta-and-heroin 3 роки тому +7

    this was awesome man great video

    • @jdp7938
      @jdp7938 3 роки тому

      He's still here! Idk if you'll see this Asumsaus but your an amazing UA-cam channel

    • @pasta-and-heroin
      @pasta-and-heroin 3 роки тому +1

      @@jdp7938 yeah man I can't believe he liked my comment so quickly after lol. just wanted to show some support its nice he saw it

    • @jdp7938
      @jdp7938 3 роки тому

      @@pasta-and-heroin indeed

  • @melucea
    @melucea 3 роки тому +2

    Absolutely love the Mother 2/Earthbound references with Master Hand.

  • @koedurley8582
    @koedurley8582 3 роки тому +2

    Bring back the videos! This is the best melee content channel!

  • @theravenswoodacademy8796
    @theravenswoodacademy8796 4 роки тому +13

    I had no idea Master Hand was a playable character in Melee, and my brother and I wore that disk out back in the day.

    • @LilacMonarch
      @LilacMonarch 2 роки тому +1

      Considering it's only possible with a glitch, I'm guessing the controls were probably implemented for testing during development and were just left in because it was supposed to be inaccessible anyway. Iirc if you have no character selected when a match starts it uses id 0 which is master hand

  • @shadicgamer2124
    @shadicgamer2124 4 роки тому +16

    Pichu: G tier
    Pichu with cheats: SSSSSSS tier

  • @wukong6853
    @wukong6853 4 роки тому +6

    Dude, I knew that kid who cheated with his Pichu. Dempt was a good friend of mine when I was still active in the Ohio Smash scene. So glad he got banned.

  • @YetAnotherSpyMain
    @YetAnotherSpyMain 3 роки тому +2

    Straight up, I would love to just see a series where you just play Netplay or something and talk for a while. A podcast type of thing, y'know

  • @Pikashockdragon
    @Pikashockdragon 3 роки тому

    Tumbnail:
    Falco: So what do ya think?
    Fox: Well... Might be tough if one more shows up.

  • @colt9758
    @colt9758 3 роки тому +4

    I don’t even play melee but I watch lol, that’s how good these vids are

  • @davidsean290
    @davidsean290 4 роки тому +6

    What about controller peeking in that one Hbox PPMD match? Or Mike Haze screaming when he gets wobbled?

  • @Squidmoto3
    @Squidmoto3 4 роки тому +4

    It's kind of interesting, because there are probably far more elaborate cheats out there and they've never been exposed - and probably never will. For example you could bring multiple setups to a tournament, and only have the cheats enabled by a certain characters skin in conjunction with a button combination (one step above what the Pichu player did). Or even set up a special button combination that would make your Wii crash in order to redo a match. Hell you could even add a toggle that makes certain controller slots experience input lag. There's even some small essentially impossible to catch things you could do, like secret toggles for automatic L-cancelling.

    • @PARZ90s
      @PARZ90s Рік тому

      Melee from my knowledge is the only game in the FGC where it was the same top players winning for years. Something about Melee was always fishy to me especially with a Pikachu main winning a major then soon after a Yoshi player winning one as well.

  • @Adamantium9001
    @Adamantium9001 3 роки тому +1

    "also, your soul now belongs to me."
    Doctrine of unconscionability go brr.

  • @SnikkasHD
    @SnikkasHD 3 роки тому +1

    4:25 "Master Hnad" I dunno if typo or not, but i find it hilarious, due to the announcers mumbled voice.
    MLEM!

  • @suzannafreund5745
    @suzannafreund5745 4 роки тому +6

    Yooo is that the Demon Ruins at 0:43 ? Does my man AsumSaus play Dark Souls?

  • @nysty1
    @nysty1 3 роки тому +17

    This editing tho 👌

  • @CenJohan
    @CenJohan 4 роки тому +17

    0:24 "Something with Merit" *shows melee*

  • @cruzlopez3206
    @cruzlopez3206 Рік тому +1

    The fact that HBox is in the background as you say “stalling” lmao

  • @diegobanegas9940
    @diegobanegas9940 3 роки тому

    Dude your channel is awesome, you even have more subscribers than Mang0, keep up this gold content!!

  • @conek6419
    @conek6419 3 роки тому +3

    I don’t even play melee but this is my favorite smash channel
    where did you go