They’re trying so hard to portray him as a villain, but who’s he ripping off, the Carnegies?! Two wrongs may not make a right, but I don’t blame Sandy for a single thing he did. Disrespect paired with forced, extensive labor has consequences.
BETRAYAL?!?! The REAL betrayal was that Sandy took the biz from a LOCAL deli with prestige to making is a wholesale distributor. Looking at it, sandy should’ve made the deal on the condition that he be made partner THEN he should’ve gone ahead and done the deal. Sure he took the recipe. In your heart of hearts be honest, if you worked your butt off for YEARS making the company you worked for a global brand and you had the blessing of elevating the brand, when you’re not properly compensated for the money, merchandising and the overall branding of the company, if you had all the recipes, even if you don’t act on it, you wouldn’t have at least THOUGHT about it? All the work you put in to make your boss rich, you wouldn’t think about putting that work into making YOURSELF rich??
Nah, you got it right the first time. He should've negotiated before the wholesale business to get a fair share. That's 100% on him for not doing that. If anything, he was a just a bitter old man, mad at himself for not doing what he should've to get stake in the business. Also, how long would you lie to yourself thinking you'll get a stake in the company after the idea has already been shutdown. Just sounds like a childish, selfish, old man. Then the affair, stealing utilities, etc. Dude was a sociopath.
This is embarrassingly low-quality production. The AI voiceover and generic, prepackaged content make it feel like it belongs alongside fluff like Ancient Aliens on the History Channel.
12:35 ....thats how I found out my pickle-man was cheating me...I had to find another pickle-man Man I can totally imagine an episode of Seinfeld around that concept 😂❤❤❤
Beef from warm weather is not as good as angus beef, that is why Latin America, Caribbean dishes are mostly made of chicken or pork, Criollo cattle is mostly found in latin america, is tougher and leaner not as marble as angus beef.
@@hommeeI would assume that colder climates produce higher contents of fat in the meat - due to the animals needing more fat to stay warm & so farmers can successfully feed them fattier foods - which makes the meat more delicious.
No it’s not. I’ve been going there for 40+ years, the food is the same as when I was a kid. It’s crowded because of the tourists. 2nd ave’s pastrami, corn beef can’t touch Katz’s.
I left my heart at a jewish deli called Izzy's in Cincinnati. It's right across from P&G's world headquarters and the cashier would just look at the guy's suit and charge him whatever. No one ever dare complain. The best Ruebens. The best potato pancakes. It just never ended. It was just so good.
Well, if you're eating that volume of cured meat on a regular basis, your biggest upcoming problem is likely to involve factors other than who's still in charge of the deli.
Seems to me that after the father-in-law died, and his wife got the business, he was entitled to half, by law. Meaning, he ended up with the equity in the business that he always wanted. So, why did he continue to be disgruntled? Did he sign a prenuptial? Did he have a bad lawyer? Was he just not right in the head?
This man MARRIED into the CARNEGIE family and felt he was getting scraps? Be careful who you marry. So many marry for a familys name, prestige or just for proximity to power.
Any time, at anytime there is a business that families are involved or just a family business, you can bet that there will be problems and it’s always, always over money, every member of the family thinks that they deserve more.
How do you know Sandy and not Milton who did all the gas and electric stuff? What benefit would Sandy have if he didn’t have any equity in the company?
Fascinating how the family keeps the husband from a share of the business, but uses him as a cog in the wheel even after he proved his worth. They must have suspected he was no good early on. Then he has affair with a trusted employee, who lives above, and the business card, etc. Stealing gas and electric is a whole other level of crime putting lives at risk. Too smart for his own good. Or stupid. Why draw such attention to yourself?
Lol, this story sounds like one in my family! When an outsider, I know doesn't make sense, comes in, they're still not "part" of the family. I've seen it first hand. That revenge is deep seeded hatred.
NYC had over a thousand delicatessen joints when its urban rival CHI, the biggest city in IL ("the birthplace of mine") was established. These days, there is roughly a score. New Yorkers could be hungrier for deli sandwiches in the future. The culinary industry is required to "hire" more chefs to open more delicatessen joints. Some of them shall be Jews.🥪
Let's get this straight... Sandy married into the family and then ran the business for them and increased business to epic scales .. but only got a salary.. he should of asked for points on his ideas to boost business but also put up some money for those ideas so he owned them etc .
$40,000 and six years of siphoning gas. If they were doing that, what else were they doing? I guarantee you they didnt have a single scale in the front of the house that was true. So slimy and dishonorable for so little gains.
Well many have went into a piece of crap restaurant, turned it around to be pushed aside for the whole thing to fall because one person was holding it all up lol
"everybody knew who Sandy was when they entered the Carnage deli?" Seems like Sandy made the name for himself not the greedy wife Oh and SUUUUUUUURE it's the meat right? Bc Thai people and Thai food is soooooooo similar to pastrami and NYC Jewish Food. All this shows is the ABSOLUTE SHOCKING INCOMPETENCE of the restaurant employee to understand business preschool. KNOW YOUR MARKET. Even more hilarious considering that HER culture, ethnicity, taste was the market. Jesus epic fail. You got to be full on short bus to school to try to persuade a rice and Noodle country to accepting bread. Nonetheless, what a typical Thai would see as something along the lines of "aromatically non-existent, boiled mystery meat wrapped in bread."
This So Crazy 🤪 & Sad 😔 😟 🙁 😥 !!!! The Carnegie Deli, Should Be Still Open 😊😊😊😊 !!!! Unfortunately 😢😢😢😢, Sandy - Mr. Greedy Betrayed 😑 😑 Ms. Marine Should've Kicked him To The Curb Immediately 😂😂😂😂 After Findind Out About his Affair & Theft !!!! I Went To, The Carnegie Deli Back In The 1990's . I Enjoyed The Food 😊😊😊😊 !!!! God Bless , Ms. M . & her Family / On Line Business .
I order food from katz deli, necer again. Cost me over $60.00 dollars, plus they rye bread. Wasn't that good. Never again.even if I was in New York. There's other deli better to go to in New York City.
It's not about ice vs water weight. It's about space. The ice expands, taking up more space than the water. The barrel seems just as full by looking at the top, with fewer pickles than advertised.
The ending was so abrupt that it felt like it was in the middle
It's a clip from an older VICE release.
I thought I skipped to the next video by accident
It's not the full episode, obviously....
Onggggggg
katz deli rules,,,the rest are imposters....
They’re trying so hard to portray him as a villain, but who’s he ripping off, the Carnegies?! Two wrongs may not make a right, but I don’t blame Sandy for a single thing he did. Disrespect paired with forced, extensive labor has consequences.
BETRAYAL?!?!
The REAL betrayal was that Sandy took the biz from a LOCAL deli with prestige to making is a wholesale distributor.
Looking at it, sandy should’ve made the deal on the condition that he be made partner THEN he should’ve gone ahead and done the deal.
Sure he took the recipe. In your heart of hearts be honest, if you worked your butt off for YEARS making the company you worked for a global brand and you had the blessing of elevating the brand, when you’re not properly compensated for the money, merchandising and the overall branding of the company, if you had all the recipes, even if you don’t act on it, you wouldn’t have at least THOUGHT about it?
All the work you put in to make your boss rich, you wouldn’t think about putting that work into making YOURSELF rich??
bingo!
Nah, you got it right the first time. He should've negotiated before the wholesale business to get a fair share. That's 100% on him for not doing that. If anything, he was a just a bitter old man, mad at himself for not doing what he should've to get stake in the business. Also, how long would you lie to yourself thinking you'll get a stake in the company after the idea has already been shutdown. Just sounds like a childish, selfish, old man. Then the affair, stealing utilities, etc. Dude was a sociopath.
Who wrote and directed this claptrap? It just cut off; there was no ending.
welcome to the new vice
Do you get the feeling that the narrator is AI?
@@StrychtenFilms yeah the narration was AI, I honestly think the script was written by AI, maybe a human did a quick read through?
@@film79 when I hear AI my instinct is to stop watching. So I couldn’t get too far in this video. Sorry Vice.. Hope this isn’t a new trend
@@StrychtenFilms It's clearly AI.
This is embarrassingly low-quality production. The AI voiceover and generic, prepackaged content make it feel like it belongs alongside fluff like Ancient Aliens on the History Channel.
That's what happens when you cheap out. Especially on the voiceover.
LOL, that's not AI, that's Jon Cryer narrating. This is a clip from a Vice TV show from 2 years ago.
Wtf do you expect from a bankrupt, defunct youtube channel? 😂
Yeah VICE is officially dead
On crack. This is more than enough quality for most of the audience.
12:35 ....thats how I found out my pickle-man was cheating me...I had to find another pickle-man
Man I can totally imagine an episode of Seinfeld around that concept 😂❤❤❤
he gave the pickle to his misstress,,not the wife.
where's the ending ?? what happened to him?
he plowed the bosses daughter,,that doesnt make him a businessman!
And? Are you going to finish the story? Don't waste your time on this low quality doc.
he plowed the bosses daughter.
this new vice format really sucks lol it's basically turned into A&E or Oxygen channel lol
Not a new format, and yes, it was on TV. This is a clip from a Vice TV show from 2 years ago.
This is a years old program
You should go apply for a job there.
You can't replicate American restaurants in Asia. The meats aren't the same and the supply of meat is not the same.
Beef from warm weather is not as good as angus beef, that is why Latin America, Caribbean dishes are mostly made of chicken or pork, Criollo cattle is mostly found in latin america, is tougher and leaner not as marble as angus beef.
@Atite_Lometen oh interesting why does the climate play a factor?
@@hommeeI would assume that colder climates produce higher contents of fat in the meat - due to the animals needing more fat to stay warm & so farmers can successfully feed them fattier foods - which makes the meat more delicious.
@@Sababbby sounds logical good point never thought of that
where's the last part of the video? it just cuts off at 17:09
Pastrami is the most sensual of all of the salted cured meats.
*W*
Katz is for tourist, 2nd Ave deli way better
I think even then Katz noticeably better than Carnegie (at least when I had em about 10 yrs ago)
It depends where on 2nd Ave😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
There’s always some were better
No it’s not. I’ve been going there for 40+ years, the food is the same as when I was a kid. It’s crowded because of the tourists. 2nd ave’s pastrami, corn beef can’t touch Katz’s.
He meant 2nd Ave Deli@tracycottrill1886
His family betrayed him first people. So he found his own happiness. Ef'em'.
he plowed the bosses daughter,that doesnt make him a business man..
I left my heart at a jewish deli called Izzy's in Cincinnati. It's right across from P&G's world headquarters and the cashier would just look at the guy's suit and charge him whatever. No one ever dare complain. The best Ruebens. The best potato pancakes. It just never ended. It was just so good.
So who ate your heart?
Love potato cakes at Izzy's. Great memories!
Well, if you're eating that volume of cured meat on a regular basis, your biggest upcoming problem is likely to involve factors other than who's still in charge of the deli.
Thailand?!!!
Location... Location... Location!😂
lol they really just have that one picture of Penske, they must’ve shown it 20 times.
Did the video end just like that? I think someone at Vice messed up lol.
i dont get why the affair is such a big deal who cares who ppl sleep with their 2 consenting adults it should only effect his marriage not his career
You must have had an affair yourself! It must've been nice
Could that end anymore abruptly??!🤣😂
This is only a portion of the video. Where is the rest of the video?
This is what passes as a scandal these days? rolling my eyes
Seems to me that after the father-in-law died, and his wife got the business, he was entitled to half, by law.
Meaning, he ended up with the equity in the business that he always wanted.
So, why did he continue to be disgruntled?
Did he sign a prenuptial?
Did he have a bad lawyer?
Was he just not right in the head?
4:20 dude snitches
Ahhh… the ol’ case of infi-deli-ty …😂
Quite the American Pickle... Kosher to be specific...
that's what happens when you work for these people; work hard, sacrifice, and they'll cheat you every time.
Very interesting video - thanks for sharing!
Part two coming soon?
I'm on Sandy's side.
In the eighties they had the best pastrami in the city. Now it’s Katz.
It’s not though
Nice work vice where's the rest?
Shooting someone over a pound of weed and 800 bucks?🤔🤔🤔What a stereotype!😡😡😡
The production quality of this video is perfectly in line with a bankrupt company....
This man MARRIED into the CARNEGIE family and felt he was getting scraps? Be careful who you marry. So many marry for a familys name, prestige or just for proximity to power.
I find the Jewish Mafia really interesting.
Bunch of Italians = the mob. Bunch of Black guys = a gang. Bunch of Jews = a coincidence. Biden's cabinet, for example.
You mean congress?
Do you know how far it reaches? The media, state department, Wall Street, Congress etc
@@JohnJourdan88 they'll call you antisemitic for saying it but it's true
AIPAC
So is this race to the bottom for Vice a deal surrounding Shane? It’s sad no matter how you look at it.
I wish we had a new York deli in my hometown in north Carolina
A corn beef sandwich there has to be about $100
The biggest sandwich on their menu was about $40USD when i went in late 2016, not long before they closed down.
Any time, at anytime there is a business that families are involved or just a family business, you can bet that there will be problems and it’s always, always over money, every member of the family thinks that they deserve more.
How do you know Sandy and not Milton who did all the gas and electric stuff? What benefit would Sandy have if he didn’t have any equity in the company?
Fascinating how the family keeps the husband from a share of the business, but uses him as a cog in the wheel even after he proved his worth. They must have suspected he was no good early on. Then he has affair with a trusted employee, who lives above, and the business card, etc. Stealing gas and electric is a whole other level of crime putting lives at risk. Too smart for his own good. Or stupid. Why draw such attention to yourself?
TLDR: Sandy gave Panky the ole' dill pickle treatment 🥒
Lol, this story sounds like one in my family! When an outsider, I know doesn't make sense, comes in, they're still not "part" of the family. I've seen it first hand. That revenge is deep seeded hatred.
What the hell? Where is the rest of the story?
NYC had over a thousand delicatessen joints when its urban rival CHI, the biggest city in IL ("the birthplace of mine") was established. These days, there is roughly a score. New Yorkers could be hungrier for deli sandwiches in the future. The culinary industry is required to "hire" more chefs to open more delicatessen joints. Some of them shall be Jews.🥪
So sad that they closed after all those years 😢
So can i find Carnegie deli recipes in Thailand or not?
I used to work with someone who worked at the Carnegie and he told me about this story about the affair 😮
The fact that we get free videos on UA-cam by VICE TV is truly a gift; keeping education and knowledge alive. 👍🙏🤷
🤷
Wow smfh thanks for half of a story. I guess i shouldn't expect anything more from vice though
Slow day for vice
Let's get this straight... Sandy married into the family and then ran the business for them and increased business to epic scales .. but only got a salary.. he should of asked for points on his ideas to boost business but also put up some money for those ideas so he owned them etc .
Whats with the Sopranos ending?
Is Sandy the guy who appears in the movie Broadway Danny Rose?
3:56 welp,, having a 20 year affair is why they didnt give him stocks
Katz`s is far better than 2nd ave or Carnegie by a mile
Just wanted to say those sandwiches look fucking terrible.
Yea one of the owners watched Scooby Doo and thought life should imitate art
You obviously haven’t ever tried one
Not surprise the suspects were basketball players
What am I watching 😂
$40,000 and six years of siphoning gas. If they were doing that, what else were they doing? I guarantee you they didnt have a single scale in the front of the house that was true. So slimy and dishonorable for so little gains.
Why did you produce this mess !??
Poor The Late Milton Parker, Would've Fired Sandy On The Spot If he Were Still Alive !!!!
How the hell u stop the story on the middle
Do not waste any time on this. You have been warned.
I Love , The DevouredSeries On Court TV Channel - Air Wave !!!!😊😊😊😊
Interesting. Can't wait to try Langer's Deli
Well many have went into a piece of crap restaurant, turned it around to be pushed aside for the whole thing to fall because one person was holding it all up lol
I agree with everybody you got to finish the story but it is a shame that Carnegie deli is no more . Very good food it's a shame there's no more
"everybody knew who Sandy was when they entered the Carnage deli?" Seems like Sandy made the name for himself not the greedy wife
Oh and SUUUUUUUURE it's the meat right? Bc Thai people and Thai food is soooooooo similar to pastrami and NYC Jewish Food. All this shows is the ABSOLUTE SHOCKING INCOMPETENCE of the restaurant employee to understand business preschool. KNOW YOUR MARKET. Even more hilarious considering that HER culture, ethnicity, taste was the market. Jesus epic fail. You got to be full on short bus to school to try to persuade a rice and Noodle country to accepting bread. Nonetheless, what a typical Thai would see as something along the lines of "aromatically non-existent, boiled mystery meat wrapped in bread."
All these vids seem to end partway through the story.
How is this Vice? Insanely disappointing, please start making good content again
A lot of “pauses” in this lol
Such low quality reporting 😂
The way I look at this is. One Gets, What one deserves " He just took what was owed to him. I'm Just saying!!
What the hell is this robot voice-over
the copycat cheese cake was actually good, I used to buy it from time to time in Bangkok >
Wow vice has a low budget these days 😂
Pastrami wars 😂😂
Right in front of her cheesecake???
oh my
not saying it's ok for what Sandie did put did Sandie elevate the deli ?
Now I want a hot pastrami....
Cuban butchers in miami had their thumb on their scale too
Why is Steven Colbert narrating?
This So Crazy 🤪 & Sad 😔 😟 🙁 😥 !!!! The Carnegie Deli, Should Be Still Open 😊😊😊😊 !!!! Unfortunately 😢😢😢😢, Sandy - Mr. Greedy Betrayed 😑 😑 Ms. Marine Should've Kicked him To The Curb Immediately 😂😂😂😂 After Findind Out About his Affair & Theft !!!! I Went To, The Carnegie Deli Back In The 1990's . I Enjoyed The Food 😊😊😊😊 !!!! God Bless , Ms. M . & her Family / On Line Business .
Vice so broke they got AI voiceover and editing now
It’s Jon cryer not ai
Why do we keep talking about stories like in total shock. It’s called capitalism. This is what yall love.
Never trust a Thai bar girl.
Or a New York Jew, then.
The portions of meat are obscene and no need for it.
The Crooked judge, Shouldn't Awarded Sandy Any Spousal Support !!!! Thumbs Down 👎
This has to be the stupidest thing I have seen in a long time
Only these people would fail to realize there is enough money to go around in NYC it would be funny if it wasn’t so gross
I order food from katz deli, necer again. Cost me over $60.00 dollars, plus they rye bread. Wasn't that good. Never again.even if I was in New York. There's other deli better to go to in New York City.
Ice weighs the same if not less than water. The pickle juice probably froze at the bottom close to the cool room floor. Extra blood in the meat? Haha.
It's not about ice vs water weight. It's about space. The ice expands, taking up more space than the water. The barrel seems just as full by looking at the top, with fewer pickles than advertised.
@ that’s pretty cunning. I’ve never considered that, thank you.
I like this, but I can't disrupt a 333.
Wow if only the Jewish family would have let him have some ownership over the business this wouldn't have happened.
Sad and pathetic.
Wow, who would’ve guessed that NYC delis think they’re being ripped off all the time.
The jew mindset. So tiny.
So vice just does food drama now? This is a joke