Use this TRICK to Replace a XWFE Filter ($55) with a XWF one ($10)
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- Опубліковано 2 кві 2024
- I bought a new GE refrigerator that came with an original water filter.
I checked what filter I should buy to have a replacement before it is fully utilized. To my surprise, the XWFE was $55 and I kept seeing a lot of generic XWF ones for $10-$15. Then I realized it was all based on the RFID tag that the XWFE filter has. BUT if you fool the refrigerator with the original RFID you can use XWF filter for a fifth of the price.
The refrigerator on this video is a GSE25GYPFCFS and the serial number starts with TV, which means it was manufactured on October 2023.
Use this link to decode how old is your fridge: products.geappliances.com/app...
This is the generic filter from Amazon:
Waterdrop XWF Water Filter for... www.amazon.com/dp/B07QK53YP4?... - Навчання та стиль
The GE refrigerator only remembers 1 RFID tag, so if you buy 2 of the xwfe filters, you can alternate the tags and keep the filter replacement notification while using the cheaper non RFID filters
Why do you need to buy TWO xwfe filters?
@@gotitdone that way you can alternate RFID tags and filter replacement notifications will work just as if you were buying the expensive filters all the time. Once it reads the new tag it resets the usage counter and does not store the previous RFID tag, so you only need 2 RFID tags for it to operate normally
@@darkoresnik75 I see what you are saying now. Are you sure about it? Have you tested it?
@@gotitdone I'm still on my first filter. When that expires I'll swap with a 2nd and back to the 1st to test. I'll update this thread with the results. I've found multiple postings saying that old RFID tags are not stored by the fridge, that it doesn't keep a history
@@darkoresnik75 thank you very much. That would be a great test and finding. So the theory is that every time the fridge scans a new RFID tag, it resets everything and allows you to put a generic filter. The fridge will count down as it normally would do. When the counter goes to zero, you scan the first RFID tag to reset it again making the fridge forget the second RFID tag. Then you put another generic filter and so on. Did I get it right?
You are genius ! Great idea !!
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You are genius thanks for share!!
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Great idea. I did use the RFID small circle in an adhesive square on the free bypass plug you can call and get from GE. I heated the sticker up up with hair dryer and removed a little at a time, more heat, remove a little more, etc.. Just like you said. I placed it where you did higher up on the refrigerator filter area . Bypass plug has a much smaller RFID on bypass plug than on the GE filter (just a small circle in an adhesive square, I then pressed it against my carpet and such to make it less sticky on purpose). So refrigerator now says BP on the display with the XWF filter and all works well. Now if you put the GE filter back in while you still have the bypass RFID sticker on, I guess that has a stronger signal, and then you have the refrigerator reading like you used to with the number of days. I just did this as a test. Cool, thank you
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Thank you so much
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THANK YOU!
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Thanks. It worked! But it was so hard to get that label off!
Really? It wasn’t that hard for me. Maybe the glue was weak on mine.
But I am glad it worked for you at the end.
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Yes. I'll probably make a sleeve that fits over the filter that holds the RFID tags. I'm going to also test if i can have 1 sleeve with both tags on opposite sides so I can just move 1 sleeve from filter to filter and rotate the correct tag in position. I don't know what the range of the reader is if 2 tags that close will confuse it. I think the mass of the filter should block the tag that is not facing the back of the fridge.
I like the way you think. You must be an engineer 😂 I will test if the tag on the opposite side can be read by the fridge. That will prove if your prototype is feasible.
I have just tested it. The RFID tag has to be extremely close to the reader on the fridge, otherwise you get “err” when you press the button to check how much life is left. Therefore the sleeve with two opposite sides can work. There is no way it will be reading the two tags at the same time.
its near field so only very close range, tens of mm distance max. and the transmitter and receiver coil need to be co-planar & co-axial :)
@@laincoulas7007 thank you very much for this information!!!
Thank you! The first time Intried to take the sticker off I ripped the RFID and had to buy another over priced filter to get a filter tht worked with an RFID.
I saw your video and this time I used the heat gun and it worked! Note to others. Don’t let the sticker get to hot, it will melt and contort. So go very slow
Exactly. Slow but sure.
I am happy it worked for you.
Read other comments since you could have two RFIDs and alternate between each other to even make the counter work with generic ones.
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Worked for me perfectly!
Thank you!!
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I didn't have the patience when removing the label, and I ended up destroying the tamper-resistant trace that is embedded in the adhesive; F**k. however after noticing how the electronics are structured it was an easy fix. I used copper tape to rebuild the antenna trace that I destroyed in order to restore the RFID antenna.
A little more info about the structure of the label:
the round-ish area is the RFID receiver coil, it is formed mostly on a durable layer but has a trace exposed between the 2 round 'pads' that is formed with foil embedded in the adhesive which is typically destroyed when peeling the label (this is the tamper-proof feature I destroyed)
The rectangular feature is the 'leak detection' sensor, which is based on sensing capacitance.
the RFID chip/die is embedded onto the plastic in the area between the rectangle and the circular area and interfaces with the RFID antenna (circle) and the leak detection sensor (rectangle)
Wow!!! You must be an expert in this area. Thank you very much. Now I will make more sense of all the circuitry I saw.
Ive replaced my filter done exactly as instructed putting the old chip sticker in place. But the new non chip filter is leaking water? What am I doing wrong? I’ve installed, uninstalled & installed again 2 or 3 times. Still leaking. 🤷♀️
@@ritamiller932 it must be something wrong with the generic filter… defective.
What brand is it? Can you get another one from Amazon and try again?
VERY GOOD!!! Mine just turned red and I'm NOT going to pay $50 for something that should be $10. My indicator is inside the top panel so I will never see the red display light from the outside -- only when I open the door. And it's very faint, as it is...
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Same issue here and it burns me. GE screwing the consumer. This has the same bad taste that Keurig coffee makers gave their loyal customers when they introduced Keurig 2.0 which basically was the same thing as their original coffee pods but they added a chip so you gad to but their 2.0 pods.
That went over like a bad dream and they discontinued their 2.0 system. That is the power of the consumer rejecting their money grab scheme. Unfortunately a refrigerator and the stores that sell them are most time ill trained and this filter money grab is not know until after the fact.
As if GE doesn't make enough Profit from all its different divisions that they find a need to screw the consumer..
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Were you able to use this trick on your refrigerator?
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I agree. I bought 2 Ge dishwasher and 1 refrigerator 6 months ago. One of the dishwashers does not work already and the filter thing really angers me. I will never purchase another GE product. 6 month filters at $50 each....$100 a year to own this refrigerator. Crazy.
@@stacey6166 I understand you. Were you able to use this trick?
Helpful video but I have a newer or older version of filter. Mine had a tamper sticker connecting the ends of the label and when I try to remove the sticker there is also a layer of delicate paper halfway down the label, conveniently splitting the important stuffs in the label in half. Any suggestions are welcome -- I've used a blow dryer but no luck. I do not believe the paper portion will stay stuck to the sticker upon removal, no matter how much heat is used.
Bummer. I guess they are trying to avoid people using this trick?
Check my video on minutes 5 that shows where the components are inside the label. If you can salvage that you should be OK
I successfully removed the label. (a rather tricky process, but take your time.) However, I tried to replace the filter with a glacier fresh model, (which is identical in all ways except the rf tag) I followed the video instructions, but just got an error. I then decided to wrap the old label on the new filter along with the sticker ( that has its own rf tag) that was joining the label ends just as it was on the original filter. Important to get this old label and tag place just as the original. I reinstalled the new (non-ge) filter and success! I suspect the fridg is looking for that second small tag because GE is on to this hack of just sticking the old labels.
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This is great! How long does the hack work for?
It works as long as you want. The red light will be there indicating that RFID tag reached the end but you will continue to filter using a generic one.
If you could have a second RFID tag, you could fool the fridge and use the counter with generic filters. The way it works is that every time you scan an RFID it forgets the previous one.
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@@gotitdone Great, thanks so much for the quick reply. Subscribed!
Question after you use an XWF filter.... Ok so I will to pull off the wrapper carefully with a hair dryer and perhaps some solvent at the edges an carefully. Some people even said to sort of try to steam it off by putting it in a crock pot and letting steam rise up. **MY QUESTION: Ok so you get the sticker off and put it on an XWF filter. And lets say it works. 1. For how long? 2. And then what do you do when it reaches zero on the filter status? I assume you cannot put that same RFID label on another new XWF since the GE stores it in memory. So perhaps you still have to buy XWFE filters now and then? Thanks for an explanation.
The refrigerator remembers one RFID at a time. When the counter for that RFID reaches zero it will start blinking the light to tell you to change the filter. But if you keep the label attached to the reader like in my video you can keep changing generic filters for ever. You just have to remember to change them after six months. The light will keep blinking for ever as well.
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@@gotitdone Thank you
what replacement filter did you buy?
Waterdrop XWF Water Filter for... www.amazon.com/dp/B07QK53YP4?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
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Dang. Can’t seem to get my lines up right. Won’t work for me. Error message won’t clear.
Really? Did the label come out easy and intact?
Hey did any of you guys have a recent GE model GSS25GYP GCFS. I'm trying to make sure this trick works on recently sold model GE 25.3 cu fridges. thanks.
Mine is GSE25GYPFCFS and it was made on October 2023. Serial number starts with TV. So it would work on yours.
Use this link to decode how old is your fridge: products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-support-search-content?contentId=37871
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@abcdq2 good luck! Please let me know if it worked for you
@@gotitdone I just ordered the Waterdrop (WD-F48) filters on Amazon for only $27+ 3 pack and will let you know in another week or 2 how it goes.
So after you use a heatgun/ hair dryer to get label off and put on fridge, now you can use any filter interchangeably (including your original xfwe filter without the label)? ...hopefully I get the label off successfully...I've also heard you can use alcohol to loosen the label glue off. Did it take you a good while (over an hour or less?) since you had to be very careful.?....I will take my time doing this so I don't risk tearing the label....
@@abcdq2 removing the label was a lot easier that you can imagine. Once you stick the label on the fridge, it will think it has that filter until eternity. At that point you can use the original filter where you got the label from or any other filter. Once the counter reaches 0% the light will turn red but you can will keep changing the cheap filters every 6 months.
@@gotitdone That's good to know. When you reach 0% let me know if it still outputs water for you? I'm probably going to do more testing 2 or 3 weeks from now after my original filter runs out --- comparing the taste and function between the 6 month old original xfwe filter and the newer waterdrop xfw filters.
I have a 2018 GE, I don’t see a scan code
That is fine. You are lucky then. Do you use XWF (no E) filters?
@@gotitdone I feel like a fool. I just looked up my refrigerator, it takes XWF, and for the past 5 years, I’ve been using XWFE!! 🤦♂️
Mine worked but it only reads 0 filter lol
You mean it says the filter is at 0%?
@@gotitdone Yup
@@mazdarxvin1 We knew the filter would still show 0 because it is still reading the same RFID tag and that one reached the end but you put a generic one that filters just fine. So we fooled it.
Now, if you get your hands on another RFID label and you make the fridge read it, it will forget the first RFID and reset the counter.
In other words, having two labels so the fridge can read one and forget the other one (repeat the cycle) can allow you to use generics AND utilize the percentage counter.
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@@gotitdone Cool thank you for the extra advice will do. My generic filter is working just fine now. Yes please do more videos with home fixing content will watch. Again thanks for the advice.