I’ve been happy with my 7950X3D since I purchased it. I use it as a 7800X3D for gaming and 7950x3D for productivity applications. However, since improvements in the scheduling software and mobo bioses of the 7950X3D I’ve noticed games performance similar for both uses now. This has been proven in other channels too.
I upgraded my 7700x that I had oc to all core oc at 5.65 ghz to the 7800X3D. I sold the 7700x for $200 and paid $180 for the delta. I have an itx build, and the 7800X3D is ideal for no throttling itx build.
Believe it or not, I have an 7700X at -50 curve optimizer on all cores and it's not throttling not one bit. Obviously the 7800X3D chip is better at low resolution but not that much better.
Bethesda games i.e. Fallout Series and Elder Scrolls benefit from the extra cache in there x3d CPU's. Some other games also benefit from the extra cache.
All youtube contect creater! Stop making testing guide with rtx 4090. Its not realistic; 7900xt (GRE) or 4070 ti (S) it gonne be much more realistic. It's not gonna help anyone. No one has rtx 4090 and one that has not gonna use 7700x.
It’s used to eliminate bottlenecks. Some games will be severely gpu bottlenecked with a 4070 ti/7900 gre so it would show a high end cpu performing the same as a lower-end one and would be a pointless comparison.
@@eTeknix I wasn't exactly expecting that your gonna say " yeah you are right, we all try this out with high end gpu,cpu and ram. I will give a shot with other system component". But for a love of god, think about it! How we gonna know otherwise. All of you using same high end component
It's a CPU test, not a GPU test. If you use mid-range cards obviously you'd want to just get a 7700X, but if you upgrade your card in the *_FUTURE_* then a 7800X3D will push your new graphics card higher. THIS is what these tests are meant to show you.
@@Dexion845 Really? How do you know it? Do have both system? can you share us the comprasion video? If you claim something, proof it. I thought this is what youtube channels (like this one) meant to be. We all know you can get more fps with 7800x3d on 1080, but difference will be small on 4k, right? But yet we need to see it with our eyes. Thanks to this kind man, we saw and now we know the difference
While I think both are great gaming CPUs, in the UK at least I think paying that extra £40 for the X3D chip is well worth it in terms of staying power over the long-term. That would let you safely avoid the pressing need to upgrade to a 9000 series chip, and wait for the final AM5 series of CPUs as your future upgrade.
Excellent benchmark as always. I would go with 7700 chip unless i have a 7900Xtx/4080 super or better. I think would help to people if you guys do a round up with a couple of GPUS more to see the real diferences when there is less graphic power. Not with 42 games, just 8 games is more than enough.
Keep in mind most users hold onto their CPU through 2 or 3 GPU upgrades, so pay a bit more for the 7800X3D could well end up paying off down the track.
Which CPU is provides "better value" depends on one's requirements. For example, if you play BG3 on a 240Hz 1080p display at ultra settings, you "need" a 7800X3D to achieve the frame rate your monitor can reproduce. A 7700X won't get you there. Even at its lower price it, fails to meet your needs, so its value to you is a big fat zero. It's like being able to buy a 40-meter rope for $10 or a 50-meter rope for $20. The 40-meter rope seems the obvious better value until you need to reach 50 meters, a point at which a 40-meter rope might as well be 10cm. Even if the 40-mter rope costs only 12 cents, its value is zero if the required reach is 50 meters.
Is switched the platform a half year ago. I went from a custom liquid cooled Intel I7700K to a Ryzen 7800K. I am still fighting whit it, and the constant change of BIOS is not helping me very much to understand how I can extract the most of the combo (DDR5 and CPU). But I still believe that this is the best PC gamer build in this moment. I have to mention that I play in 4K. PS - my 5800X3D is still the most trusted and reliable platform.
I’m glad I picked up the 7700x for $204 new on Amazon a few weeks ago.. I came close to buying the 7600x for $198 but figured the two extra cores was worth it..
While they are certainly more niche I would suggest adding more CPU limited games for testing differences in chips like this. Factorio loves the extra cache far more than slightly higher clocks because the workload is very latency dependent. Other games I know are generally CPU bound are the Total War games, Paradox grand strategy games and Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts.
Definitely going to upgrade from 7950x to 9950x3D or just 9800x3D, that 3D vcache does wonders, however will you move from testing mw2 using benchmark ? use warzone instead for testing in that game
Sell that thing for the same price you can get into far better IPC. I had a 5900X for a while and it simply was inferior to more modern even 6 core CPUs for gaming. The good part is thanks to the 12 cores you can sell it for the same price you can buy a much better gaming CPU. Get $180-200 for it today and buy either a 5700X3D or 7600/7600X. Unless you really utilized those 12 cores for regular productivity stuff.
It seems that they have pretty much the same "bottleneck" or lack thereof for GPUs. It just so happens that in situations where the CPU can crank out more frames from a game, the 7800X3D benefits sometimes. Which means that if a GPU counts as good for a game and setting, one can go by that in basically the same way between the CPUs (which are largely the same, actually). It seems the 7800X3D mostly creates bloat frames that can almost be called "just for show", or like an ad to pay for it... (with not much substantial real-life change.) Indeed, one seems more likely to avoid a true bottleneck by getting an i9 or so (no matter how unfashionable).
Aside from anything, 4090 benchmarks are really not interesting (and omnipresent). It is actually more likely that both CPUs are bottlenecks there, than for any lower cards. And lower cards are after all what 98% will really use, so one should simply show benchmarks for that. I know there are very lame smarta** responses to that, but they are useless. What one wants to see is something actually relatable, not some weird bloat "phenomena" that have zero value as an argument for what to buy. (And as mentioned: both CPUs seem to bottleneck the 4090 from cranking out more completely useless bloat frames... As seen in some GPU utilization benchmarks, as they have literally the same CPU cores. That is why fitting or sane combinations are all the more relevant.)
Keep in mind most users hold onto their CPU through 2 or 3 GPU upgrades, so paying a bit more for the 7800X3D could well end up paying off down the track as it probably has longer legs.
I’ve seen that now multiple times where the 78X3D pushes out slightly more fps in 1440p than in 1080p, how does that make sense? Does it have something to do with gpu utilization due to the x3d cache? Good benchmark btw cheers 🍻
For gamers it's either 7600x or 7800X3D. $200 7600X or don't bother with 7700/7700X as they are simply too close in price to the 3D at that point. The 7600X is regularly the same price as the 7600 so get the X if you have the cooling for it. 7600 would be better for those with a smaller form factor or running a lower end cooling solution.
Do you suggest 7700x w 7900 gre or spend 100$ more and get 7800x3d instead ?? Im worried more about temps and power draw w.r.t 100$ difference. Im super confused and any help would be super appreciated. Thanks!
I have both of these chips along with a 7800XT and 4080 Super. With the 4080, the 7800X3D is a no brainer, even at 4K there is a difference. With the 7800XT though (which is fairly close to the GRE), its basically a wash as the card isn't really fast enough. If I were you and had a strict budget, I would put that $100 to a 7900XT which will give you way more bang for your buck than the CPU upgrade.
For gaming it's far better and from what I'm noticing from this video even though I have a xtx and 7800x3d I get more plus the 40 series has cpu overhead while amd 7000 doesn't plus I'd rather see this running in game
Depends on what you want out of your computer. If you are looking at cheapest, go 7600x. If you need lots of fast cores for productivity tasks, 7700x. If you are focused on gaming and/or power consumption - the x3d.
I would take an R7-7700 over an R7-7700X. Similar performance, better thermals, lower power draw, MUCH better price and it comes with a Wraith Prism cooler. That cooler works just fine on my R7-5800X3D which is more power-hungry and runs hotter than the R7-7700.
@@ddd45125 Right, the same CPU but the non-X is cheaper, more efficient and comes with a fantastic cooler that saves you even more money. A better way to say it is that you can get the R7-7700 to do the same thing is as the 770X except the the silicon (there's no e in silicon) is slightly worse. The lower price and inclusion of the Wraith Prism Cooler is more than worth it.
I use a R7-7700 with a PA120. It's an absolute monster and runs extremely cool. Idles at the desktop around 25watts. 40-60 watts during gaming. Honestly crazy.
yeah until watching this I felt like I made a mistake opting for the 7700 for my 4k rig, but at 4k the data shows it really doesnt have a difference. my only issue is 7800x3d still uses a lot less power and on average runs around 10 C cooler. Their prices aren't that far away from eachother, so I recommend if you have the extra 60-80 dollars go for the x3d. If you are gonna go with 7700, learn how to do individual core undervolting. I brought my temperatures from 80 C to around 70 C with that. and buy a good water cooler, mine is msi's 2 fan model and it isnt good. Buy one with 3 fans.
In case of Zen 3 the situation with prices is even worse, as 5800X3D is almost two times more expensive than 5700X! While in terms of 1% it is not that much faster either (especially with tuned RAM). Which makes 5800X3D a pretty bad value option. So I doubt anything chages in regards to pricing of Zen 4 chips. I mean, right now 7800X3D is actually more atractive than 5800X3D, compared to their corresponding non-3D chips.
Every decision is a compromise between budget, use cases (apps, games), targeted resolution and performance. From all the games usually tested I own only cp2077, my favorite is TESO and I buy usually games when they get discounted. My monitor is at 5120x1440/120Hz (80% 4K) and with my 7900XTX I would like to hit the 1% lows close to that. If a non 3D variant gets the job done and is better in apps, why spend more money? Even my 5900X if often just good enough. Next decision is to be made when Zen5 gets out.
If your GPU is something more reasonable like a 7800 XT or 4070, the cost per frame is even better for the 7700X. I have a 6950XT and chose the 7700X over the 7800X3D which was +140 euro more expensive at the time I had to buy (previous pc crash). In retrospect, the 7600/7600X (-40 euro) were better buys.
Got a 7700x from launch together with a 4080. With Hunt Showdown being my main game I will go for the new 9800x3d by the end of this year. Playing on 1440p this will give a nice boost I guess!
Any benchmark regarding Hardware accelerated GPU scheduling or HAGS for short. Very limited coverage on the feature some say it's needed for frame gen but other says it cause stuttering or bugs
I appreciate the 1% low summary. They are (in my opinion) significantly more important that average FPS. Edit/Add-on: What I appreciate about the 7800x3D is that you can throw a cheap kit of DDR5 and it won't affect the performance much. You can save like $30 by buying a cheaper kit instead of having to buy 6000 CL30 to max out the performance of 7700X. A cheap kit of 5600 CL40 barely makes a difference on the 7800x3D.
True. But there is also another aspect about 7700X - if you OC RAM and tune timings, then the difference between theese two CPUs will be less impressive. 7800X3D would be like 8% faster on average in terms of 1% lows. So it would be really hard to discern these two models in most games. But the thing is, you may need faster RAM in future, when Zen 5 comes out. If you get 5600 MHz kit and 7800X3D now, you will probably need to upgrade not only a CPU, but also RAM as well. While if you get faster RAM now and 7700X, you will need only to upgrade a CPU later. I'd rather get 6400MHz/CL32 kit with 7700X now.
@@stangamer1151 Agreed. 7800x3D is just a more friendly CPU for people who don't care to tinker. I love tech, but OCing and tuning RAM is a part time job in itself, which I really don't want to deal with. Spending the extra money on the 7800x3D is worth it for me and many others who don't want to spend the time.
Nice one Andy. I'd be more inclined to go value for money (cost per frame) for any first generation chip on a new platform, then deviate from the value and go higher end on a future chip released for the socket. I did that with AM4, buying in on the R6 1600 to end up with the 5800x3d. Having said that, I couldn't resist the 7800x3d on AM5 this time around, but if I had it to all over again, I'd have started with the 7600, and then plopped a 9800x3d on when that gets released.
Upgrade your GPU if you have the money to, unles your CPU is extremely weak. Not worth to expend money this way and keeping the GPU. 7800X3D is for 4080, 7900XTX or above
Yes. Unless you're planning to upgrade your gpu to 7900xt/rtx 4070 ti super or higher soon. Otherwise, otherwise upgrade your gpu first. If your cpu is really weak, then save more and upgrade cpu and gpu.
bad timing for pc build , in 2 august 9000 series will be avaiable for buy get 9600x if u cant wait for 9800x3d and if u really dont have time get 7800x3d
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i build my 4k gamer 1 year and 3 months ago and i went with the 7700, and it has never disappointed in any way.
Nice, I’m sure it has not. What frequency you running at? I can usually sustain 5.5GHZ on my 7700k most of the time gaming.
I’ve been happy with my 7950X3D since I purchased it. I use it as a 7800X3D for gaming and 7950x3D for productivity applications. However, since improvements in the scheduling software and mobo bioses of the 7950X3D I’ve noticed games performance similar for both uses now. This has been proven in other channels too.
I upgraded my 7700x that I had oc to all core oc at 5.65 ghz to the 7800X3D. I sold the 7700x for $200 and paid $180 for the delta. I have an itx build, and the 7800X3D is ideal for no throttling itx build.
Believe it or not, I have an 7700X at -50 curve optimizer on all cores and it's not throttling not one bit. Obviously the 7800X3D chip is better at low resolution but not that much better.
@PadPoet -50 is nice silicone lottery. I just joined the -30 pbo on the 7800X3D club. enjoy.
Bethesda games i.e. Fallout Series and Elder Scrolls benefit from the extra cache in there x3d CPU's. Some other games also benefit from the extra cache.
Should I build a 7800 4090 or wait for new cpu and gpu
All youtube contect creater! Stop making testing guide with rtx 4090. Its not realistic; 7900xt (GRE) or 4070 ti (S) it gonne be much more realistic. It's not gonna help anyone. No one has rtx 4090 and one that has not gonna use 7700x.
It’s used to eliminate bottlenecks. Some games will be severely gpu bottlenecked with a 4070 ti/7900 gre so it would show a high end cpu performing the same as a lower-end one and would be a pointless comparison.
@@eTeknix I wasn't exactly expecting that your gonna say " yeah you are right, we all try this out with high end gpu,cpu and ram. I will give a shot with other system component". But for a love of god, think about it! How we gonna know otherwise. All of you using same high end component
Uuhh i just sold my 4090..waitimg for 5090 lol@@whomadethis8595
It's a CPU test, not a GPU test. If you use mid-range cards obviously you'd want to just get a 7700X, but if you upgrade your card in the *_FUTURE_* then a 7800X3D will push your new graphics card higher. THIS is what these tests are meant to show you.
@@Dexion845 Really? How do you know it? Do have both system? can you share us the comprasion video? If you claim something, proof it. I thought this is what youtube channels (like this one) meant to be. We all know you can get more fps with 7800x3d on 1080, but difference will be small on 4k, right? But yet we need to see it with our eyes. Thanks to this kind man, we saw and now we know the difference
While I think both are great gaming CPUs, in the UK at least I think paying that extra £40 for the X3D chip is well worth it in terms of staying power over the long-term. That would let you safely avoid the pressing need to upgrade to a 9000 series chip, and wait for the final AM5 series of CPUs as your future upgrade.
Excellent benchmark as always.
I would go with 7700 chip unless i have a 7900Xtx/4080 super or better.
I think would help to people if you guys do a round up with a couple of GPUS more to see the real diferences when there is less graphic power. Not with 42 games, just 8 games is more than enough.
Keep in mind most users hold onto their CPU through 2 or 3 GPU upgrades, so pay a bit more for the 7800X3D could well end up paying off down the track.
@@Battleneter In 2 years there is a cpu twice as fast for the same money, buy what you need today.
Which CPU is provides "better value" depends on one's requirements. For example, if you play BG3 on a 240Hz 1080p display at ultra settings, you "need" a 7800X3D to achieve the frame rate your monitor can reproduce. A 7700X won't get you there. Even at its lower price it, fails to meet your needs, so its value to you is a big fat zero. It's like being able to buy a 40-meter rope for $10 or a 50-meter rope for $20. The 40-meter rope seems the obvious better value until you need to reach 50 meters, a point at which a 40-meter rope might as well be 10cm. Even if the 40-mter rope costs only 12 cents, its value is zero if the required reach is 50 meters.
i go for 7800x3d last week, since future gaming probably make use of v cache heavily, no regret for coming years
Is switched the platform a half year ago. I went from a custom liquid cooled Intel I7700K to a Ryzen 7800K. I am still fighting whit it, and the constant change of BIOS is not helping me very much to understand how I can extract the most of the combo (DDR5 and CPU). But I still believe that this is the best PC gamer build in this moment. I have to mention that I play in 4K.
PS - my 5800X3D is still the most trusted and reliable platform.
I'm waiting on the Ryzen 9000 series, but this interesting to see! Thumbs up.
I’m glad I picked up the 7700x for $204 new on Amazon a few weeks ago.. I came close to buying the 7600x for $198 but figured the two extra cores was worth it..
While they are certainly more niche I would suggest adding more CPU limited games for testing differences in chips like this. Factorio loves the extra cache far more than slightly higher clocks because the workload is very latency dependent. Other games I know are generally CPU bound are the Total War games, Paradox grand strategy games and Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts.
Definitely going to upgrade from 7950x to 9950x3D or just 9800x3D, that 3D vcache does wonders, however will you move from testing mw2 using benchmark ? use warzone instead for testing in that game
I'm still happy with my 5900X. Good video. Thank You
Sell that thing for the same price you can get into far better IPC. I had a 5900X for a while and it simply was inferior to more modern even 6 core CPUs for gaming. The good part is thanks to the 12 cores you can sell it for the same price you can buy a much better gaming CPU. Get $180-200 for it today and buy either a 5700X3D or 7600/7600X. Unless you really utilized those 12 cores for regular productivity stuff.
It seems that they have pretty much the same "bottleneck" or lack thereof for GPUs. It just so happens that in situations where the CPU can crank out more frames from a game, the 7800X3D benefits sometimes. Which means that if a GPU counts as good for a game and setting, one can go by that in basically the same way between the CPUs (which are largely the same, actually).
It seems the 7800X3D mostly creates bloat frames that can almost be called "just for show", or like an ad to pay for it... (with not much substantial real-life change.) Indeed, one seems more likely to avoid a true bottleneck by getting an i9 or so (no matter how unfashionable).
Aside from anything, 4090 benchmarks are really not interesting (and omnipresent). It is actually more likely that both CPUs are bottlenecks there, than for any lower cards. And lower cards are after all what 98% will really use, so one should simply show benchmarks for that.
I know there are very lame smarta** responses to that, but they are useless. What one wants to see is something actually relatable, not some weird bloat "phenomena" that have zero value as an argument for what to buy. (And as mentioned: both CPUs seem to bottleneck the 4090 from cranking out more completely useless bloat frames... As seen in some GPU utilization benchmarks, as they have literally the same CPU cores. That is why fitting or sane combinations are all the more relevant.)
Keep in mind most users hold onto their CPU through 2 or 3 GPU upgrades, so paying a bit more for the 7800X3D could well end up paying off down the track as it probably has longer legs.
I’ve seen that now multiple times where the 78X3D pushes out slightly more fps in 1440p than in 1080p, how does that make sense? Does it have something to do with gpu utilization due to the x3d cache? Good benchmark btw cheers 🍻
1440p and higher resolutions are more GPU intensive. 1080p is more CPU intensive and benefits from the higher clock speeds rather than the 3d cache.
For gamers it's either 7600x or 7800X3D. $200 7600X or don't bother with 7700/7700X as they are simply too close in price to the 3D at that point. The 7600X is regularly the same price as the 7600 so get the X if you have the cooling for it. 7600 would be better for those with a smaller form factor or running a lower end cooling solution.
Do you suggest 7700x w 7900 gre or spend 100$ more and get 7800x3d instead ?? Im worried more about temps and power draw w.r.t 100$ difference. Im super confused and any help would be super appreciated. Thanks!
Yes
I have both of these chips along with a 7800XT and 4080 Super. With the 4080, the 7800X3D is a no brainer, even at 4K there is a difference. With the 7800XT though (which is fairly close to the GRE), its basically a wash as the card isn't really fast enough. If I were you and had a strict budget, I would put that $100 to a 7900XT which will give you way more bang for your buck than the CPU upgrade.
the 7600X is more than enough for a 7900 GRE, buy the 8 core chip if u want but dont get the x3d.
@nelsonmejiaslozada9362 wrong, i switched from my 5.6ghz 7600x to a 7800X3D and i gained up to 30 fps in a game, more than worth it
Dude if you have the budget go with 7800x3d anyway. The 100$ you spend today, abstain you from spending more money for another cpu in the future.
I think the lower power draw, fan noise, and increased fps help offset the additional purchase cost
where I live I can get the 7700x for 288USD and I can get the 7800X3D for 313USD and I can get the 7600x for 205USD what one is the best buy?
Get the 7800X3D especially sinch the price is close to each other
Take our overall average, divide that and the cost and you’ll get the cost per frame and decide from there.
For gaming it's far better and from what I'm noticing from this video even though I have a xtx and 7800x3d I get more plus the 40 series has cpu overhead while amd 7000 doesn't plus I'd rather see this running in game
Depends on what you want out of your computer. If you are looking at cheapest, go 7600x. If you need lots of fast cores for productivity tasks, 7700x. If you are focused on gaming and/or power consumption - the x3d.
@wagnonforcolorado the x3d is still good on all around on all that I recommend 8c 16t not really any 6c 12t now
As an owner of both CPU’s, the memory controller in the 7700X is way better than the 7800X3D
I would take an R7-7700 over an R7-7700X. Similar performance, better thermals, lower power draw, MUCH better price and it comes with a Wraith Prism cooler. That cooler works just fine on my R7-5800X3D which is more power-hungry and runs hotter than the R7-7700.
They are the same CPU, you can get the 7700x to do the exact same thing as the 7700 except the silicone is better.
@@ddd45125 Right, the same CPU but the non-X is cheaper, more efficient and comes with a fantastic cooler that saves you even more money. A better way to say it is that you can get the R7-7700 to do the same thing is as the 770X except the the silicon (there's no e in silicon) is slightly worse. The lower price and inclusion of the Wraith Prism Cooler is more than worth it.
I use a R7-7700 with a PA120. It's an absolute monster and runs extremely cool. Idles at the desktop around 25watts. 40-60 watts during gaming. Honestly crazy.
yeah until watching this I felt like I made a mistake opting for the 7700 for my 4k rig, but at 4k the data shows it really doesnt have a difference. my only issue is 7800x3d still uses a lot less power and on average runs around 10 C cooler. Their prices aren't that far away from eachother, so I recommend if you have the extra 60-80 dollars go for the x3d. If you are gonna go with 7700, learn how to do individual core undervolting. I brought my temperatures from 80 C to around 70 C with that. and buy a good water cooler, mine is msi's 2 fan model and it isnt good. Buy one with 3 fans.
In case of Zen 3 the situation with prices is even worse, as 5800X3D is almost two times more expensive than 5700X! While in terms of 1% it is not that much faster either (especially with tuned RAM). Which makes 5800X3D a pretty bad value option.
So I doubt anything chages in regards to pricing of Zen 4 chips. I mean, right now 7800X3D is actually more atractive than 5800X3D, compared to their corresponding non-3D chips.
Every decision is a compromise between budget, use cases (apps, games), targeted resolution and performance. From all the games usually tested I own only cp2077, my favorite is TESO and I buy usually games when they get discounted. My monitor is at 5120x1440/120Hz (80% 4K) and with my 7900XTX I would like to hit the 1% lows close to that. If a non 3D variant gets the job done and is better in apps, why spend more money? Even my 5900X if often just good enough. Next decision is to be made when Zen5 gets out.
If your GPU is something more reasonable like a 7800 XT or 4070, the cost per frame is even better for the 7700X. I have a 6950XT and chose the 7700X over the 7800X3D which was +140 euro more expensive at the time I had to buy (previous pc crash). In retrospect, the 7600/7600X (-40 euro) were better buys.
Should do escape from Tarkov
Got a 7700x from launch together with a 4080. With Hunt Showdown being my main game I will go for the new 9800x3d by the end of this year. Playing on 1440p this will give a nice boost I guess!
Probably more performance from chips with larger on-die caches, in future. Hence, AMD's upcoming mega APU with wider Bus and Infinity Cache.
Any benchmark regarding Hardware accelerated GPU scheduling or HAGS for short. Very limited coverage on the feature some say it's needed for frame gen but other says it cause stuttering or bugs
HellDivers 2 is most cpu limited game. Try on that next time please. Thanks for video.
Dont forget that the 7800X3D uses way less power and is way easier to cool
7800x3d still better buy
90% of these are all well above 120fps anyway.
I appreciate the 1% low summary. They are (in my opinion) significantly more important that average FPS.
Edit/Add-on: What I appreciate about the 7800x3D is that you can throw a cheap kit of DDR5 and it won't affect the performance much. You can save like $30 by buying a cheaper kit instead of having to buy 6000 CL30 to max out the performance of 7700X. A cheap kit of 5600 CL40 barely makes a difference on the 7800x3D.
True. But there is also another aspect about 7700X - if you OC RAM and tune timings, then the difference between theese two CPUs will be less impressive. 7800X3D would be like 8% faster on average in terms of 1% lows. So it would be really hard to discern these two models in most games.
But the thing is, you may need faster RAM in future, when Zen 5 comes out. If you get 5600 MHz kit and 7800X3D now, you will probably need to upgrade not only a CPU, but also RAM as well. While if you get faster RAM now and 7700X, you will need only to upgrade a CPU later.
I'd rather get 6400MHz/CL32 kit with 7700X now.
@@stangamer1151 Agreed. 7800x3D is just a more friendly CPU for people who don't care to tinker. I love tech, but OCing and tuning RAM is a part time job in itself, which I really don't want to deal with. Spending the extra money on the 7800x3D is worth it for me and many others who don't want to spend the time.
7800X3D or for value 7600 ,,, 7700x is a no go , is bad value OR not good enough ,, meat in the sandwich
7600X is usually the same price. I ordered the 7600 and the day before it arrived the 7600X was the same price so I returned the 7600.
thx for testing also 1 Flightsim
Nice one Andy. I'd be more inclined to go value for money (cost per frame) for any first generation chip on a new platform, then deviate from the value and go higher end on a future chip released for the socket. I did that with AM4, buying in on the R6 1600 to end up with the 5800x3d. Having said that, I couldn't resist the 7800x3d on AM5 this time around, but if I had it to all over again, I'd have started with the 7600, and then plopped a 9800x3d on when that gets released.
is getting a 7800x3d a waste of money if i only have a 6700xt ?
7800x3d is the best gaming cpu in the worls right now. And will probably stay that way for a couple years atleast. There is no waste of money here
Yes.
No it will give you a boost and plus any gpu you upgrade won't be bottlenecked so it's a no brainer
Upgrade your GPU if you have the money to, unles your CPU is extremely weak. Not worth to expend money this way and keeping the GPU. 7800X3D is for 4080, 7900XTX or above
Yes. Unless you're planning to upgrade your gpu to 7900xt/rtx 4070 ti super or higher soon. Otherwise, otherwise upgrade your gpu first. If your cpu is really weak, then save more and upgrade cpu and gpu.
… i literally just ordered a build with a 4080 super with the 7 700x… please dont tell me i messed up😐
bad timing for pc build , in 2 august 9000 series will be avaiable for buy get 9600x if u cant wait for 9800x3d and if u really dont have time get 7800x3d
can you test star citizen as well? i mean that will pressure the cpu a bit more.