What is Shia Islam? - Zaydism
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- Опубліковано 29 лют 2024
- In this third and final installment of the introductions to Shi'i Islam, we dive into the history and teachings of the Zaydis, the smallest but stillvery significant school that has been a significant part of the history of Yemen.
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Sources/Recomended Reading:
Amir-Moezzi, Mohammad Ali (1994). "The Divine Guide in Early Shi'ism: The Sources of Esotericism in Islam". Translated by David Streight. State University of New York Press.
Amir-Moezzi, Mohammad Ali (2011). "The Spirituality of Shi'i Islam: Beliefs and Practices". I.B. Tauris.
Daftary, Farhad (2007). "The Isma'ilis: Their history and doctrines". Cambridge University Press.
Haider, Najam (2012). "The Origins of the Shi'ia: Identity, Ritual, and Sacred Space in Eighth-Century Kufa". Cambridge University Press.
Haider, Najam (2014). "Shi'i Islam: An Introduction". Cambridge University Press.
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@@parmykumar8592that’s in “Sunni” books yeah
Can you do a video detailing specifically the differences between Sunni and Shia
This religion is going to divide into 73 different sects; why? monetary benefits for some and getting conned by some...
I am Egyptian, my father lived in Yemen for 7 years, there he prayed in Zaydi mosques and realized that their prayer is identical to Sunni with one exception they didn't say Amen after reciting Al-Fatiha , my father was so well received in the community to the extent that they allowed him to perform the Azaan regularly and even give the Friday khutbah at the local mosque, the Imam of the mosque was friends with him, all this while being known as a Sunni Muslim from Egypt.
Keep in mind the civil war in Yemen (North Yemen Civil War 1962) and the Egyptian involvement in that war was fresh in the collective memory of the Yemeni people at the time.
O you who have believed, do not take your fathers or your brothers as friends if they have preferred disbelief over belief. And whoever does so among you - then it is those who are the wrongdoers. Quran 9:23
@@moholah3745 he didn't disbelief tho so i don't get your point
@@amarrevolver4452 Some Sunni Muslims do not consider Shia to be real Muslims.
@@Chuiboo No Sunni scholar says Zaidis are disbelievers, this opinion is existent about Twelver Shia and Ismailis.
Salafis also dont say Aaameen right ?
Bro, I get so pumped when you drop a video on one more smaller branch of faiths. Thank you so much. 🙏
Warn the hypocrites that torturous punishment awaits them. The hypocrites take unbelievers as friends rather than believers. Do they look for honor at their hands? Truly all honor belongs to Allah. Quran 4:138-139
ok whatever@@moholah3745
I am a Sufi Zaydi from Qarsherskiy ❤ I love this coverage. Very well researched.
Qarsherskiy is an interesting micronation
@@alexalpine4490 Oh, not much happened here. Counting all our overseas territories we have less than 3000 people only. Our country is small.
@@alexalpine4490 Today there was a rare Carolina Parakeet sighting on mainland Qarsherskiy in Kampen Pasha Province. Thought to be extinct.
In the path of the misguided
@@HardCore_Islamist No. Sufi Zaydi js Aliyite. Aliyite are those who follow Ali. The Prophets SAW said the believer loves Ali.
I'm a Twelver Shia myself and have been hoping to learn more about the Zaydis since I admittedly don't know a lot - so thank you for this video.
I’m in the exact same situation 😂 also a twelver with interest in zaydism, and have been researching it for a while now
Same here
Same here brother
Do Twelvers normally call themselves Twelvers? It always felt like an informal term that English has just defaulted to, I guess 😅
Yup... Ithna Asyari in Arabic, but usually they refer themselves as Syiah or Madhhab Ahlul Bayt @@LoudWaffle
Thank you so much for this important explanation. Many years ago I had the pleasure of visiting Yemen (including Sana) but really had no idea about the beliefs of local people. Certainly I found the locals so friendly and hospitable compared to Riyadh where I was living. I have to say that despite being Sunni I find the theology of Zaydis very attractive.
Amazing video. I'm a Tunisian Sunni who has been to Yemen once (a long time ago). The Zaidis are extremely close to us. Btw I'd really appreciate a video explaining us the differences between Najrani ismailis and the rest of ismailis.
*Nizari my friend.
@@adamgulamhusein8768 You're right but I meant the Ismailis of the region of Najran. They're quite unique. Many greetings. God bless you. ❤️👏
@@ClubisteM Please excuse me. I did not know about them. Salam my friend.
@ClubisteM I'm ismaili from yemen we are the same as the najrani ismaili. We have the same creed as the bohra. We are called sulymani ismaili
@@ClubisteM clubiste metha9ef ?? that's new :p
This is a very important video as shia beliefs are obscure and not known generally to people outside of their faith tradition. Thank you
Long awaited one, thank you Filip!
Big thanks really good to see you listen to your audience. Really appreciate the good work!
A fascinating and insightful video! Wonderful how you go through different aspects of it and the timeline of scholarly thought - it really helps to truly understand the depth and breadth of each complex religious phenomenon you cover and of its context
You're honestly my favourite channel on youtube. I was literally just looking for a video on Zaydism on your channel when this dropped.
Filip,
You are the best I’vs seen at explaining these things. Thank you for your efforts. Much success. Blessings to you and your family. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you!
I’m delighted to learn about the Aqidah of my Ansar Allah boiz. Thanks Mr. Holm!
The new religion by Ahmad al-Hassan?
I been waiting for this one thank you so much 🙏
Your content is a gift that keeps giving. Extremely underrated channel. ❤
I have been waiting for this for such a long time! Finally
Been waiting for this episode!!!!!
Glad I'm not the only one.
So have I.
So have I.
Very well researched and informative as always 👌👌👍👍
Nice work. Always love to see your research regarding Islam,stay blessed
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
a work machine! didn't you just upload a 12 days ago. this must have taken a lot of time and effort. love it please do not stop. a forever fan!
Another great teaching Professor Holm, thoroughly enjoyed it!
A pleasure to listen your researches in particular on religions. A thousand congratulations. you follow the lineage of ancient thinkers and philosopher.
Hello Filip,
I just wanted you to know that you’re doing a great service to mankind with these videos.
In such a day and age where people barely find time to indulge in any research regarding their religious doubts/interests - your platform has provided a very balanced and unbiased understanding of many aspects of religion.
God bless, and with that being said.
I would look forward for you to make videos on the following topics in the coming future.
- Ahmadiyya Movement
- Nation of Islam
- Alevis/Bekhtashi Order
- Deobandi/Bralevis
- Takfir - Doctrine
Your videos seem like some one is reading a book to me...... a complete package...👍👍👍👍 great effort on phrasing and spoken part of the video.... unique choice of topics..... display of sources/references.... quoting directly from other sources....
Thank you for this very interesting and informative video!
Thanks for making these videos :)
You just got another subscriber brother i love how you explain things, perfect for someone like me!
I (a hanafi) heard zaydi fiqh (jurisprudence) was super similar to hanafi fiqh but I didn't expect it to be this similar, eye opening tbh
Very very Informative video...Thank you Filip ....
MashAllah! I asked for a video about Zaydism like two weeks ago and now it's here! Fantastic! You are the best religious channel on UA-cam. Keep up the good work.
Great video ❤
I am a Zaidi but I didnt have a clue about a lot of facts stated here so flawlessly. Hats off brother!
Is there any reference for us, to read about Zaidiya?
More excellent work, always a pleasure and education.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge about Shia Islam to those who might not know
it's incredible. When i have a frenetic desire to found something about a specific religion, philip does the same researches on him side. If we are really connected, the next video will be about mazdakism…
Best religious History Channel ever!!!
I really enjoy learning the diversity and details of Islam. Know that someone in the deserts of Utah appreciates what you do.
One idea I think would be great is to explain some of the religions in Crusader Kings 3 (as you’ve already technically done of course ). 1:20 Your channel is great to listen to while doing a play through bc it adds so much context and I learn so much more. Maybe going into the Tengri or any syncretism that happened in history? Amazing channel btw I never miss an episode!!
much much appreciated for your effort
needed this. thanks
Thanks for the video
Didn't even know you did music too. Wow. Always wondered about the intro song and now I found it in Spotify. It's great.
This is immensely helpful! Your content is ممتاز!
Do you have any videos explaining the four major schools of Sunni thought? Thx 🙏🏼!
Thank you for this fantastic explanation, it gets so confusing when description just goes into the succession and never says what that means in how theology, life, practices, etc are approached. Your explanation really shows the vibrant and living differences within the Muslim world. Thank you.
Thanks for this work of real scholarship
from SANA'A YEMEN best regards to you my brother and all good people everywhere
I've been waiting for this one
My wife is from Yemen and when she lived in Yemen she thought of the Zaidis as an obscure community in the mountains. The Zaidis taking over Yemen was something no one expected.
Alhamdulillah
I'm Yemeni Shia Zaydi from Sana'a & your wife is just ignorant & delusional to not know that Yemeni highlands with the most agriculture & most powerful tribes have been Zaydi Shia since the Abassids.
Then your murtad wife don't know the history of yamen, it was always like this be it yamen or iraq or Syria the Shias countering Sunni occupation and imposition succeed in winning but fail with foreign Sunni intervention rinse and repeat ...what we witnessed in 2past decades was nothing but repeating of same with Sunni uprising involvement of foreigners etc
🤣🤣🤣 zaydis are 40% of Yemens population and are majority of Saada, Capital Sanaa and Dhamar so all the high density regions!! All yemenese know very well how are zaydis and our madhhab so it’s very bizarre that she thought that about us
@@user-cd2kn8nl6oo she is most likely Sunni, so you know how these bakris think and believe
From what I've read in my historical research, Zaydism grew prominent at least in the Southern Caspian (I'm not sure how similar the situation is for Yemen) because it was the fringe of the Islamic world in the 8th/9th centuries. Many Alid proto-Shias went there in order to escape Caliphal authority and they managed to gain many converts and supporters in the area which had been up to that point less influenced by Islam (many were still Zoroastrians). This is why it is assumed that the Daylamite Buyid emirs (Daylam being in Northern Iran on the Caspian coast) were originally Zaydis before embracing Twelver Shi'ism, though others have suggested that they may have been Twelvers from the start, and that Twelver/Imami missionaries also had a presence in the area for similar reasons.
My previous manager is Zaydi/Zaidi. Now, he is my colleague in new company where we both applied at different times. Really a Nice Developer and Guy
Does he live in the U.S I would love to learn the zaydi madhhab from someone here on america
@@theghazalianway no, but his brother does
Thanks bro❤️❤️
you gotta do an episode on the mu'tazila!
Thank you for your pertinent presentation.
I wish you could give us a course on freedom of belief in Muslim history.
hey man would you look into the emerald tablet of thoth im rly curious what you have to say about it love the videos!
Overall a nice and tidy introduction to the madhhab. I can't be too critical, as I've been a practising Muslim for 20 years and a student of the Zaydi madhhab for the last four or five. I would like to voice my appreciation for you at least pointing out that the division of views regarding the Sahabah into Batri, Jarudi, Sulaymani, etc. didn't reflect a reality on the ground. And that is indeed the case, as heresiographers like al-Shahrastani (author of al-Milal wa al-Nihal) seemed to be rather fond of such artificial stratification. In reality, the spectrum of opinions on them are scattered amongst scholars and Imams of the madhhab (e.g. with some Imams favouring 'tardiyyah' [saying 'May Allah be pleased with him'] for al-Shaykhayn [Abu Bakr and Umar] and others adopting 'tawaqquf').
You also mentioned the 'Hadawi' school, which I feel the need to point out is more like a Sunni madhhab of fiqh (and historically there were others, e.g. Nasiri and Rassi), and the one practised in the mainstream by the Zaydis of Yemen today.
And regarding the portion highlighting the affinity between the Mu'tazilah and the Zaydis, I was pleasantly surprised to learn that Manekdim (a famous commentator on the Usul al-Khamsah of al-Qadi 'Abd al-Jabbar) was actually a Zaydi Imam himself!
Salam brother I would love to learn the zaydi madhhab more
Great topic, I like how you mention both Sunni and Shia are not monolithic movements.
I came across your channel by chance a few years ago and realized you had only 20 thousand subscribers I was bothered by it for I thought someone like you with this much useful information should have at least a few hundred thousand subscribers. Today I realized you have over seven hundred thousand subscribers, it made me very happy. Congratulations
I recently wrote a paper on the impact of the VOC on trade in Yemen, specifically on the coffee trade and also came across the zaydis and their wars (which they called jihads, I didn’t know that was possible between muslims) against the ottomans. Funny to see your video on it now afterwards, I found Zaydism very interesting, but my topic was very different.
Well timed video, thank you. All glory to the resistance!! 🇾🇪💗🇵🇸💗🇮🇷
How its well timed? Can you explain?
@@samibabar by December of last year, if I remember correctly, Ansar Allah (a group from Yemen that's one of the strongest in the country) decided to put up a blockade on the Red Sea for ships involved in trade with "Israel" in order to help Palestine in their national liberation struggle. Ansar Allah originated among Zayidis, although nowadays has people from other religious groups aswell.
@@elpito9326 ohhh, I didn't know that.
32:30 I love seeing the children in this artwork. 🤗
The intro music was catchy.
I love it… to me it has become a musical identifier of the Islamic civilization
zaydi here.
1. Imam Ali b. Husayn Zayn Al-Abideen is not one of our canonical Imams, negating the graph thing shown at multiple points
2. we lack almost every single Jarudi belief
3. the Imam is not the "highest authority in ijtihad," by necessity, although the person with that quality is often preferred for the role
4. Imam Al-Shawkani said Imam Ali deserved the caliphate, I dont know if calling him "Sunni" really grasps the nuance, he definitely rejected all alleigance to any school identity in favor of return to the quran and ahadith
Peace be upon you
Do you have a discord? If you do, can you add me as a friend? I want to know more about Zaydism. You are free ofcourse.
I want to ask what do the zaidi shias say regarding sahabs?
He is an Imam, but not one who rose up in revolution in a Zaydi sense.
@@Damin05
It's a Shia Zaydi view to state their disobedience to god&his prophet but not to do Tafsiq/Takfir. Tawaquf we do not endorse their sins by taradhi. However, those who openly called prophet Muhammad a sorcerer in Hunayn like Abu Sufian & his family are fasiqeen, tyrants & tolaqa.
Please make a video on Baba Bulle Shah a Punjabi Sufi poet. I have seen all of your videos about sufis and they are exceptional and at the same time informational. I truly admire your work and pray that you keep presenting it in the best way possible Assalam o Alikum.
Can you do a video on the Bektashi Sufi Order , they I believe even believe in the 12 imams like the 12er shias they are Sufis but also fall under the Shia category. It be interesting to learn it from you being an expert on sufism 😊
Very interesting topic
Really Zaidi is one of great Muslims school
As a Itna Ashari Shia ( twelver) who is a Syed Zaidi, we are descended from Zaid ibn Ali who is the first imam of the Zaidis I didn't know there was a sect called Zaidism. I just assumed when people said Zaidis they were speaking about us, very interesting learning about our cousins in fiqh.
I've watched 10s of your videos, I am impressed. Just noticed I am not a subscriber!! just fixed right now.
Can u make a video on akhbari and usuli shias. And if u have can u tell me which video or put a link?
Jaafar As Saddiq is a teacher to many sunni imams as well
Thanks!
I am descendent of zaid bin zain ul abideen so it always made me wanted to know about my ancestors like my mom side is Naqvi syed which was known for active role in Abbasid period but i learn about zaidi being killed during the reign of ummayad which created a spark of Abbasid revolt against ummayad as zaid was their son in law
Subhanallah May Allah bless you my syed brother
Our maternal family are Sunnis and from the descendants of Sayyidina Zayd bin Ali and his son Sayyidina Yahya who also organised an uprising. One of our ancestors in the family lineage leading up to Zayd was called Sayyid Dawood Buzurg who was the governor of Kufa. Of course some many deny this, but it’s reported that Sayyidina Zayd was deserted by many of his supporters after showing unwavering support and respect for Sayyidina Abu Bakr as Sideeq and Sayyidina Umar رضي الله تعالى عنهم
After this he called them the ‘Rafida’ which is term used for Shias today meaning something like rejectors.
false hadith made by the shia enemies
As a Mu'tazili, I really appreciate our strong kinship to the Zaydis.
Are you being serious?
You people still exist ?
@@jtb229 Yes, what's wrong with that?
@@Mutazilieverything 😂😂😂
@@PapaDuSavantDeLaRepublique prove it 😂
@@Mutazili Arguing with you is the biggest waste of time, the ummah of Mohammad ﷺ was purged of your creed, philosophies and power
Thanku a lot!!
Hi! Have u ever made a video about nestorian Christians? Thanks
Hi.i am from sanaa and the update of zaydism now is that 90% r similar to Sunnis except one major difference and that the Muslim r allowed to rebel against the unjust ruler in three stages:
1.Advising the ruler,if not worked then
2.civil disobedience(protest)
3.armed rebellion
Sunnis r not allowed to rebel against rulers even if they whipped you, stole ur property and imprisoned you without right...in short term the ruler in Sunnis r treated like god and in zaidy somehow treated as prophet but not exactly
do you know most sunni believe rebeling against unjust ruler, it's just madhkalis (found in gulf countries and very little amount in North Africa) rest of sunnis which probably make more than 80% sunnis they do believe rebeling against unjust rulers
I wished he would also talk about "Quranism"
It's the most BASIC form of Islam, and I really wished he would cover and expand on it
He did in another video
He did a while ago
He already did
Most basic yet its history only goes back to a few hundred years ago by moderns affected by liberalism lol. No tradition
It is not a form of Islam.
I was born a zaydi. Thank you for this video
Can you teach me the zaydi madhhab
@@theghazalianwayworship only ALLAH swt as per teachings of beloved Prophet Muhammad ❤️ ﷺ and understanding of pious predecessors
A video about the religion of dune and it’s similarities to real faiths would be so cool
Could you please make a video on the Kurdish religion of Yarsanism next, would be much appreciated. Thank you.
Im persian Zoroastrian and Im know yarsian or اهل حق
Is very similar to our Religion
I just realised that you have yet do a video on Ahmadiyah, potential video idea maybe?
something even Muslims do not know usually is that there are five rightly guided caliphs ; as Al Hassan son of Ali is also considered one but is overlooked because he was both the last and only ruled for six months.
Im interested in knowing the events that took place at ghadir khumm.
It was mentioned that some ismailis don't take Hassan as an imam, than how they see them? The imamate just passed down to Hussein after Ali?
Brother you have so many videos idk where to start. Where do you think I should start?
5:55
Babe, wake up, Let’s Talk Religion made a video on Zaydism!
The king of Morocco should convert to zaydism and claim to be the imam. There's at least three great reasons for him to do so :
- he can, since Hasan ibn Ali is his ancestor.
- that would be a great reclaiming of the roots of his country, since Morocco was founded by Idris I, a zaydi imam himself.
- that would really annoy Algeria, and as far as I understand it, that seems to be one of the main political goal of Morocco.
Or just start a Zaydi Republic similar to Iran
@@HaloJumper7Iran isn’t a Zaydi Republic if that’s what you meant
@@LawOfMomentivation Shia Zaydi version
Man, I love how early islamic miniatures depict holy people with a fire/noor around them. It reminds me of Goku charging :D
Shout out to my Zadiyyah brothers and sisters! May Amina the Holy Mother of Allah bless you all and may the Banat Allah (Manat, Al-Uzza, and Allat) truly show you the way! Ameen!
bless
I’d like to learn more about Yemen and how it became so distinct from Saudi Arabia and Oman.
im from Yemen and im zaydi, you can ask
Hi I saw in the video that you have written and said "Ihtihsan". Did you mean Istihsan? ( استحسان ). Just wanted to point it out...
Thanks
What was the reason behind the shia to adopt mutazilism as the foundation of their early theological doctrine than any other early kalam school such as Qadari, Jahmiyya, or even traditionist themselves?
Wasil ibn Ata, the founder of the Mu'tazila school, was closely linked to Imam Ali. Also, this logical approach was heavily pushed by Imam Jafar as-Saddiq, which even the Zaydi respect. Sunni Islam was also mostly ratified as a set of doctrines during the 1100s, and the reason based methodology was mostly removed from this newly merged sect to differentiate themselves from the Shia.
Shia didn't adopt any of their beliefs, having similar beliefs doesn't mean it was taken from them
I got excited when I saw this at first, but now I am disapointed. My dyslexic eyes thought it said Yazidism, which I have been very curious about.
On my most recent playthrough of Crusader Kings 2, as I was trying to recreate a Greek Kingdom of Bactria, a Persian kingdom all converted to Yazidism. I looked into it and it sounds fascinating.
I will still watch this video though. I like all of your work.
Pray for the Yazidi people who suffered terribly at the hands of Islamic State . There are still many Yazidi women who are still enslaved by them . God help them .🙏
He did one on them already, an old video. Odd religion, obscure. Possibly Abrahamic, possibly not. Likely not around for much longer.
@@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts going to have to search that one out. It seems like a fascinating topic.
Playing crusader kings with dyslexia sounds like hell
@@cickenistasty lol. Its not severe. I couldn't imagine trying to learn CK2 with severe dilyslexia for sure!
What branch does the artist formerly known as Filip Holm practice?
According to my analysis, it is Islamic Sufism because it brings together all religions and all gods in one idea
Christian he's already disclosed this.
@@TheMagicofJava It is impossible for someone who possesses this knowledge to limit himself to an imaginary god, I bet you on that
@@abedmarachli7345of course God is God, however, we name him. Philip certainly has a strong knowledge of the Sufi tradition.
Well timed. I'm surprised you made no mention of how Zaiydism's notion of an Imam who "fights against oppressive regime" is directly behind the Houthis movement - it's civil war with Aden and it's more recent decision to cause trouble for israel's allies. .
The current activity of the houthi pirates neither targets exclusively, nor particularly harms The IDF and instead by disrupting maritime trade, has significantly increased cost of shipping for all goods passing through the region which leads to disastrous impacts broadly. Houthi leadership has claimed to only target Israeli vessels, which turned out to be a lie, to hurt Israel and help the Palestinians in Gaza, which I have trouble believing given their actions and the consequences of those actions. I don't believe their current actions constitute fighting oppression, and even if it may be perceived that way from within.
@@benjaminjenkins2384
"disasterous impacts abroad" Good if the palestinians are starving than i don't care how much more money you need to pay for your amazon package. Besides they never blockaded that streight before the israelis started genociding the palestinians.
@@benjaminjenkins2384 I believe I agree with every word of your assessmen . (with the minor caveat that there's always room for a little doubt when trying to read current affairs without the benefit of historical hindsight or research, of course)
From the perspective of religious studies, though, it certainly matters most how the Houthi Zaydis see themselves, right? Those large public demonstrations by militants in Dana's really fit the aspect of Zaydism described.
If I am honest, I can't say I find this particular branch of Islam to be very socially or politically healthy. I try not to judge, but ... Sometimes a religion sect really does deserve criticism.
@@ems4884 I think like broadly, looking at the way religious communities see themselves is almost certainly the worst way to find out about them. Deep south Christians think they're loving but are the biggest pushers of homophobia in the states, for example.
@@benjaminjenkins2384100% wrong. The Hou.this intercept vessels that go to and from Zio.nist ports and those that are owned by the Zion.ists. This is absolutely in line with fighting an oppress.ive regime that is currently committing g.enocide in Gaza. The types of vessels intercepted was expanded to include those of countries that have attacked them.
Why were the faces of those to men in the image at 13:40 blurred?
they’re the prophet of Islam ﷺ and his highly esteemed cousin Imam Ali. they’re sanctified figures so it would be inappropriate to display their faces.
@@mvvx313 Thank you! Very interesting. So although the paintings do have their faces depicted, it is blurred when displayed to the public because it is considered inappropiate right? or are the actual paintings censored in some way?
@@pabloruano3421 pictures of prophets and key figures are usually strictly forbidden in Sunni Islam but sometimes allowed in Shia Islam (although it probably depends on the sub-branch), so I guess these pictures are from Shia artists, but are blurred in this video to avoid offense to other beliefs
@@enemia93And is there a specific reason that they can be found offensive? Or is it more of a tradition? Or maybe based in something prophet Muhammed said?
In short we do not want the later generations who are unfamiliar with the context of the original art to misinterpret these art to be items of worship and to start worshipping it which is the biggest sin a muslim can commit@@pabloruano3421