This is a fascinating video that puts a lot of what we’re seeing today in its proper perspective. Thank you for this delightfully respectful, truthful, and entertaining video!
yes, we see muslims defending killing apostates largely based on ibn taimayya. what do you think of his fatwa of his calling for the killing the druze as apostates?
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I'm a native Arabic Muslim and I've been researching Islamic literature for as far as i can remember, and to be honest, your coverage was far beyond my imagination and exposed me to some ideas i have never thought of. Great effort man really appreciate it 🙏
Well, I'm a native Arab ex-Muslim and this channel is my favorite in term of honest research, no BIAS in favor or against any mythology including Islam. Other UA-camrs( atheists and theists) are subjective in their reporting . I literally never heard about Ikhwan al-Safa or Al-Hachachin until I started following this amazing channel.
@@zaryabshah3268 @عمر I left Islam znd religion over all simply because when you (really) dig into it, it does not make any sense, for Islam for instance, a lot of Quranic verses and stories of Muhamed spitting the moon, riding on a horse to the 7th sky where Allah exists ( I thought he were everywhere ?) and tons of stories that completely contradicts science and basic common sense.
Sacking? Mongols sacking Baghdad is quite putting lightly. They slaughtered at least a quarter million ppl like animals and raized the city to ground. If they only sacked, seen some art and literature would have been saved.
What can my enemies do to me? My Paradise is in my heart; it goes with me wherever I am. If they kill me, it is martyrdom. If they exile me from my land, it is a vacation in the Path of Allah. If they imprison me, it is to allow me a private devotion with Allah. Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullaah).
The distinguished students of Ibn Taymiyyah are many and they had a great influence in the Islamic library, some of them excelled in jurisprudence, interpretation of the Qur’an, doctrine, etc.
@@dom3073 there is ibn rajab a very known hanbali scholar which rulings are still followed till today by hanbali scholars, Al-dhahabi which work on hadith is used by everyone, and ibn kathir, which tafsir is the most well known and famous today, mohammad ibn abdul hadi al-maqdisi the writer of Al-mu7arrir in hadith, jamal al-deen al-muzzi the one who wrote tahtheeb al-kamal, A very known book in hadith, ibn mufli7 al-maqdisi, who also is known for his hanbali fiqh
May Allah have mercy on Shaykhul Islam Ibn Taymiah Rahimahullah for his balanced understanding of Islamic creed and straunch opposition to religious innovations and saint and grave worshipping.
And he "corrected" God and his prophet, 700 years after the last revelation. Just created a religion based on his taste and (mis) understanding of actual Islam.
@@mannankhavi7596 you completely misunderstanding what a Buddha is... If someone "correcting" God and Prophet then he is a bidditi (i.e. Ibne timiya and Abdul wahab).
@@farzein4002 I'll give u one Seeking tawassul thru dead Are u guys that smart To make something opining to be as good deeds which prophet pbuh didn't do which allah swt didn't commanded Inauzbillah introducing in this perfect religion should be considered correcting the creator instead of someone who's call was tawheed
One can not understand ibn taymiyya without understanding the situation of the middle east in his time. The middle east today is very similar to his time, a divided post-caliphate muslim world. This is why he's very popular
It is true, but his influence is more widespread due to Pan-Islamism and the lack of any substantial power in the region. Although divided, the Mamluk Sultanate was strong, defeating the Crusader and Ilkhanate armies North and West
He is very popular because he was invoked by wahhabi+saudi movement to overtake the rule of Hijaz from the Hashimites, and with enough oil money and the appearance of legitimacy of governing the two holiest cities in Islam you have the situation we have today.
no it is not the same, today is different kind of worse and but not in every aspects in his time the abbasid caliphate was still existing in egypt as a religious leadership under the political power of mamelooks, but today , Britain and the european powers managed to extinguish the caliphate for good, and the west imposed its plans on the region and forbade any chance for the return of unified muslim state but in the same time there is more access to information and people are more free but not all free from the belief of myths and the lies of suffism
Thank you so much Philip for all the amazing content that you post on your channel. I was looking for this video for so long. It came right on time. If you can do another one on Ibn Al Qayim Al Djawziya that would be awesome. Once again a million thanks :)
This Salafi moment reminds me a lot of the broader Protestant and Puritan Christian movements in the much later centuries that aimed to "purify" the dominant religion which was perceived to have strayed away it's origin both carrying a similar legacy in their respective realms of influence (but obviously with different overall timelines/trajectories). There is also some ideological similarity in his legal approach to what we would call Constitutional Originalism in the modern United States.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Protestantism and Salafism are essentially the same movement but one resulted in a very liberal culutre and the other a very conservative one
@@emZee1994 I disagree, both have resulted in varying degrees of progressivism and conservatism at different points in time. And ultimately while both are technically "radical" their goal is to conserve a form of religiosity that they perceive as true, pure, and original. Those two theological movements, although coming from a similar thought process, they have been impacted by different material cultures and histories which impacts how they are perceived by wider society and between societies.
@@SanFranFan30 Two parallel lines starting from different points will end at different points. This doesn't deny the parallel aspect (although I agree that this is oversimplification, unlike atoms, subjects involving humans cannot be put into mathematical formulas)
Awesome, I suggest that you make a video about people who lived when Moghols attacked the Islamic countries.There are lots of people who had a great influence on Islamic world that lived in that century, people like Rumi or Ghazali or some of the most famous Iranian poets. I think it would be great if you analize their life through the context which they lived in. There is no time in Islamic world that they have this number of famous people.
Ghazali lived before the mongol invasion . His influence in the Islamic world is gigantic compared to Ibn tahmiyah. The reason why ibn tahmiyah didn't have a lot of influence during his time is because of imam ghazali. Of course it would have been nice if they lived at the same time. Tahmiyah would have learned a thing or two about Islam through imam ghazali. Not to say that ibn tahmiyah was less of a scholar. Afterall he was called Shaykh al-Islām.
@@vinlondon8904 hahahaha how ignorant of you comparing sheikh al Islam ibn taymiya to al Ghazali obviously Ibn taymiya is way beyond his league because unlike Ghazali ibn tamiya sticks to Quran and sunnah Ghazali didn’t that why in his last days it was very very hard for him to get out from doubts
That's bs. The Khanate burnt Bagdad, not Damascus. They were even in China and Europe. And 90% of them don't turn to Hamas and Al-Quda in modern time. They want to kill because they want to kill. Simple as that.
Thanks. Great as always. Please make a detailed video on how neoplatonism, gnosticism and sufism have influenced Ismailism. Would love to see your take on it.
As a modern Salafi, I wanted to thank you for a fair and objective presentation about this topic - you were careful with your words and despite the very difficult subject matter, you really treated it like a completely unbiased documentary. That is truly hard to find nowadays; may Allah reward you.
@@cowsmuggler1646 the Prophet sullalahu alaihi wasallam was a much better man than you, as was Jesus, as was Moses - you are nothing compared to them, yet you make fun of them, and only show your own stupidity and corruption. They all had beards, and if you do not then you are more like a woman than a man.
Wauv! Thank you. I'm not muslim, but I really enjoyed watching it, since I like to understand the problems with(in) islam in the world today. Thank you, once again! Keep more coming, please!!
@@thirdocean3784 Unfortunately, mostly women i've heard because of his stances on divorce, which was much more relax than conservative scholars, but Allah knows best.
Thank you for bringing this information to us Philip it's clear that Ibn Taymiyya's ideology is still very influential and I think us understanding this will go one step towards a greater understanding of the issues it has led to and the fact that Islam, like all religions is no monolithic edifice, it contains just as much diversity of thought as all of humanity itself..
I think the word Monolithic in itself is deeply problematic and so subjective in this context that is becomes moot. Honestly, Islam is pretty monolithic when contrasted against other faiths. WHat I think is happening here is people outside of Islam watch this channel without a real-world sense of how nuanced Islam is beyond an academic discussion. By discussing these details it may seem more "non-monolithic " than it actually is. Monolithic is not always a negative. But depends on what we are discussing and from whose perspective. Still if you come to South Africa or Kenya or Ethiopia, a mosque is a mosque and the religion is pretty clear cut. Ramadan is Ramadan where ever you go.
Excellent video, and a fair coverage IMO. Since you spoke about Bi-La Kayf and Kalam, can you also make videos about Al-ash'ari, Athari, and Al-Maturadi, and the Islamic theology of absolute rationalism (late mu'tazilah)? EDIT: Also hoping you explain to people tawil and tafwid.
@@obaid5761 mocking someone for their statement instead of bringing a legitimate counter statement to encourage discussion speaks volumes. Be better. You have every right to disagree, mockery isn't the way to do so.
Great work! I think I can add one point: Ibn Taymiyya's harsh fatwas on shia in general were motivated by politics, The mongol illkhanate accepted islam and favoured Shia ideology over sunni ideology, that meant Muslims in levant had to fight invading MUSLIM mongols. That made the notion to fight mongols back less popular,as they already had an overwhelming power in addition to their cruelty, and fact that mongols accepted islam made it even more complicated. In fact Ibn taymiyya's most popular book( Minjah Al sunna Al nabawiyya) is a response to a book called ( Minhaj Al Karama fi Ithbat Al Imamah) written by Ibn Mutahhar Al Hilli who was the head of Shia scholars during his lifetime(first to be given the title Ayatollah), Ibn Al Mutahhar himself was a student of Nasir Aldin Al Tusi, A prominent Shia scholar, who was an advisor to the infamous Hulagu Khan. It's accepted among Sunnis and Shia today that Ibn Al Mutahhar was the reason Mongol illkhanate officials favoured Shia doctrine over its Sunni counterpart. So in my own personal opinion: Ibn Taymiyya viewed Shia as an enemy that was trying to undermine the Muslim world. He never viewed them as Muslims with different views. Same goes to other Shia minorities: alawites and duruz: he accused (in his fatwa) these minorities of siding and aiding mongols and crusaders. In short: Ibn Taymiyya and his critique of Shia and their beliefs were the result of Muslim-Mongol conflict
@@sagn1962 ..othe rcomment abiove..qaradawee..didnt die in 1926....? ur comment too sorry to say bit misleading apologies for own mis understandiung.....ibn taymaya did sewrv ice or not..to ie worlds solution islam...?..u hav emuslim name..suspicion sinful..r u muslim ? as to islam decline far from...still growing in numbers...fastestb growing today..y?..yes quality c.f to quantity..zionmiasm..has the capital power
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it seems to me that radical protestant ideas permeated islam in 18th century, and that the clerics at the time searched for some kind of person in the history of islam which held similar views to name it their predecessor. Ibn Taymiyya got that honor.
I'll mostly agree. I also think there is also some correlation between ibn Taymiyyah living in a post caliphate society and the fact that the salafi movement really took off after the abolition of the Ottoman (caliphate)
@@emZee1994 they are very different, protestants have their own bible... where as Quran is preserved, so Salafis are a true revival... also liberals can be very strict look at marxism in a moral vacum balance it key!
It's the opposite, salafis are most peaceful and shias are the scorned ones. Turkey in early 1900s was plagued by cultural tasawuf which lead to secularism. Jordan wanted to keep Arabic and rebelled with uk backing, but Jordan lost to Saudis who united Arabia on 1920s.
Saudi formed in 1925 & to 1980 no terror except tel aviv, why? In 73 Saudis & Egypt beat tel aviv for sinai, cia backed iran in 79 to be israelis ally. Iran follow she'a fayruz 1st suicide kariji who knifed Umar then self. Saudi booted al queda, This inspired iran to be original jet bombers, & take in al queda, lie on iraq wmds and leave arms for isil to Aid Assads tyranny.
Thank you so much for sharing this figure. Such a comprehensive video! Indeed, it is difficult to consider Ibn Taymiyya a Sufi, because usually academics categorise a Sufi into two schools, either "Tasawwuf Sunni" or "Tasawwuf Falsafi". However, Ibn Taymiyya himself in fact cannot be classified into these two schools of Sufism. Fazlur Rahman felt the need to make up a new typology to cover Ibn Taymiyya's Sufism style outside of Sunni Sufism and Falsafi Sufism. This typology is termed neo-Sufism by him. The views of Ibn Taymīyah and his loyal disciple, Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya, are then classified as neo-Sufism. These two classical figures are considered by him the pioneers of neo-Sufism; a Sufism school characterised by a great emphasis on moral motives and the application of the methods of remembrance and muraqabah to God. In contrast to Rahman, several academics such as Mustafa Hilmi and 'Abd al-Qadir Mahmud categorise the position of Ibn Taymiyya's Sufism outside the typology of Sunni Sufism and Falsafi Sufism as well as neo-sufism, that is "Salafi Sufism" (al-Tasawwuf al-Salafi). This typology is considered in line with the model of Salafism of Ibn Taymiyya.
he is successful in uncovering the disgrace of sufism in many of his works. The name tasawwuf itself was considered heretical because not a product of the prophet and his companions or the tabiin. How could he be considered a Sufi if the name itself was rejected by him.
@@alturatsalturats9691 You shouldn't project the present onto the past. He was not anti-Sufi and I even read a 14th (iirc) century Islamic book about many Muslim Awliya' that referred to him as a Sufi. Most modern-day Sufis would agree with a lot of his critiques of popular sufism practiced by lay people. Let's not create divides where they don't exist.
@Qizilbash Salafiyah isn't a thing to begin with, the meaning of Salafiyah is the return to the pure islamic teaching of the Quran and prophet without whatever Sufi's scholars innovations
@Qizilbash @Qizilbash but it is a historical fact based on the hadith: "the best people are those living in my generation, and then those who will follow them, and then those who will follow the latter." Inevitably the name Salafiyah was literally not known but as a factual history it is not merely "a name".
It's fascinating how much Ibn Taymiyyah parallels Martin Luther. I was already somewhat familiar with Ibn Taymiyyah, but this time around it hit me that what he's advocating for is remarkably similar to (though definitely not the same as) Luther's principles of sola fide and sola scriptura.
For the same reason you think the Eiffel Tower is a conspiracy concocted in 1473 by Bigfoot, Nixon, and a cabal of Armenian cheese industry moguls. In short, I don’t.
@@Dhoom1981 I can certainly see an argument for that. It would depend a bit on what you think the defining significance of Martin Luther is in Christian history. These kinds of comparisons only go so far.
@@Salsmachev Simply because - as stated in the video - for both Martin Luther and Abdel Wahab, their legacy was achieved during their lifetime, unlike Ibn Taymiyyah, whose influence began long after his death.
@@imranragimov7781 whether you take Ibn Taymiyyah or the Sufi sunni scholars he opposed, both are opposed to unchecked “modernism” or “liberalism”. Both would be guilty of this “stagnation” in your book. Its not like Sufis would allow western civilization like unchecked progress if they had political dominance. Just saying.
@@imranragimov7781 and I am not saying there is anything wrong in being opposed to liberalism/modernism. Islam is the only religion that stands like a rock against this. Alhamdulillah for Islam..
@@MSS-nt9ko Depends on what you consider "liberalism". If you are speaking about progressism or post-structuralism, you can be sure that those are concepts that islam by definition will always be oxymoron, but if we are speaking about "freedom" and "free will", that´s when "anti-liberalism" starts to get dangerous, and, unfortunately, the second definition is the main used today by whahhabis and other terrorists disguised as sheep.
@@MSS-nt9ko why you against modernism ? Everything in universe is made to develop. Our planet once was piece of boiling lava. Now it has greens and life. In the same way life should develop too. It’s God’s plan. Liberalism means freedom. There are lots of totalitarian countries these days. Is it good someone with power can decide your destiny ?
Thank you, brother. Very interesting and informative video. It is puzzling to balance his rather Puritan attitude towards the interpretation of textual sources and personal ijtihad with his aggressive theology, that is closer to anthropomorphism than not. I think this is why most of the Salafi schools now completely drop the kalam/theology arguments, and focus on the importance of worship and its detailed technicalities.
@shahriar4706 yeah, so how do you square that with Islam supposedly being a tolerant religion? 'the religion of peace' and of course the oft quoted 2:256? I'm i correct to assume you equate someone leaving Islam with 'treason'? what do you think of the verse fo the koran that says someone believed, then disbelieved and then believed again and so forth? did they always 'repent' in 3 days and therefore weren't killed?
@shahriar4706 إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ ثُمَّ كَفَرُوا۟ ثُمَّ ءَامَنُوا۟ ثُمَّ كَفَرُوا۟ ثُمَّ ٱزْدَادُوا۟ كُفْرًۭا لَّمْ يَكُنِ ٱللَّهُ لِيَغْفِرَ لَهُمْ وَلَا لِيَهْدِيَهُمْ سَبِيلًۢا ١٣٧ 4:137 Indeed, those who believed then disbelieved, then believed and again disbelieved-˹only˺ increasing in disbelief-Allah will neither forgive them nor guide them to the ˹Right˺ Way. -no mention of needing to kill them? again, am i correct to assume you get your fiqh form the 84th book of bukhari and the quote of muhammad: 'whoever changes his [islamic] religion, kill him'?
@@mikemalzahnwe don't have an issue with Apostasy Law and I don't care to reconcile that with liberal Muslim delusions that Islam is PURELY PEACE AND TOLERANCE, if Islam was that way, that would be evil and blameworthy, we are also against other immoral ideologies, just as we are anti liberal, we are anti racists, we are anti communists, we are anti idolatry, we are anti Nazism, etc etc, each group has its own unique problems with us and sometimes has similar problems with us, but each group tends to have doubts and disgusts relative to their invented assumptions about what's right or wrong, if you want me to truly take your ideology as truthful then produce proof for your assumptions being truly descriptive of true morality, otherwise if you can't justify these basic beliefs, then why should i be deemed immoral by some fictitious invention guessing at what morality is?
The hanbali mazhab was actually not the strictest, Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal usually gave multiple rulings for issues because he believed in the leniency of Islam. The strictest mazhab is generally considered to be Hanafi.
Nope. the most lenient and has room for the thought and even sufism to express itself is the hanafi. It goes like this Hanafi>shafi'i>Maliki>Hanbali from most lenient to the most extreme
Actually it wasn't?! Jon Hoover is not fair enough or even about his historical judgment on Ibn Taymiyya's Jon Hoover should consider the possibility of vengeance + conservatives dialema but he was so fast to make direct comments from Ibn Taymiyya's advisers. I hope you will enjoy seeing my comment and read more about this problems in near future . Love you and respect.
What a good video! Also when the letter 'b' comes after a 'n', the 'n' morphs into a 'm' sound- for ease of pronunciation. E.g, Hanbali turns into Hambali. Also in the Qur'an; 'min ba'di' morphs into ' mim ba'di', meaning..after...
@@re_patel no because it would be changing his name. This a common mistake and I asked one of the students of knowledge studying hanbali fiqh in Medina he informed me that ita not correct in the Arabic language and that this is only from the tajweed rulings when reciting Quran.
Long-awaited episode! I did a presentation on Ibn Taymiyya and his understanding of Theodicy a couple of months ago. His actual life and teaching is certainly more nuanced than the popular caricature and whether you agree with his worldview or specific ideas or not, one has to admit his great importance as a Muslim theologian, maybe second only to Al-Ghazālī
Search Fakhr al-Din al-Razi, also a great theologian, the best imo because he had some kind of honesty that was rare in those times. Al-Razi basically came to the conclusion that the mind (or logic) can only go so far in understanding the world (and God), I think Ibn Taymiyya built on his achievements. Also, I think Al-Ghazālī isn't the brightest of muslim theologians, he's just famous in western circles because William Lane Craig popularized him.
@@strangeair3917 I haven't seen any interesting ideas Al-Ghazali had to offer (in theology/philosophy), he was mostly traditional and I don't usually hear his name when listening to discussions about islamic philosophy. I would pick Al-Razi as the best theologian I know of, he discusses philosophical issues in a skeptic way unlike any of his contemporaries. Ibn Taymyya is also a genius, but I'm still trying to understand his world view.
Actually i can argue three things that were said in this amazing video: 1. His "harsh" fatwa against alawits and duruz, it was not an unique fatwa of his own, and this fatwa had a political side in the context of thier negative role in the ongoing conficts that time, and this fatwa got very influent and popular because it came from such an important influent scholar/fighter and made him more popular. 2. His fatwa against mongols, again there was a historical and political context, when mongols invading the heart of the islamic empire and some of muslims were having second thoughts defending themselves against the invaders because some of them declared themselves muslims, so ibn teymiyye said that even if some of them believe in some islamic ideas and believes, they still should be fought back. 3. The views againt "taklid" that were mentioned in the video seems like the anti-taklid school in the 20th century, not ibn teymiyye's view himself, he always had been a hanbali scholar, but felt himself free to go beyond his hanbali school when he found it right, and had the courage to do it alot of times but in the frame of hanbali school, the nowadays school of salafis (or most of them) do not look to this that way, and some of them went too extreme in baning "taklid" completely
And i want to add something i believe in, ibn teymiyye's school influents a lot of movements nowadays (wahabis, salafis, isis, etc) but you can rarely find a scholar nowadays that follows ibn teymiyye's school from a to z, most of them are just following his theologic thoughts (regarding god's attributes). for example, he was totally against saint graves visiting, but when wahhabi movement started its war against sufi movements in hijaz area, ibn teymiyye's words was just used to justify the war, even if ibn teymiyye himself didnt mentioned a word about starting a war againt this graves! The same happend with al-qaida and takfir movements in general, i realy admire ibn teymiyye's work and message in his era, i believe he was a genius, and i realy get sad when i see movements using his name and writings to justify or support thier own thoughts and actions
Great points! He should have mentioned the historical context for these fatwas instead of just making him out as some crazy secterian warmongeror. The alawis he takfired were people that used to attack the settlements of sunni Muslims, hence the harshness and permisibility to kill them.
@@muhammedmemduhoglu7854 isis came from al queda who the Saudis booted but cia 79 iran the original jet bombers took them in following shi'a st. fayruz who took Umar then his own life. view : *Saudi Arabian Foreign Minister Rips Apart The Raafidhi MaJEWsi Iranian Foreign Minister *
@@muhammedmemduhoglu7854 truth is ibn Abd. Wahab defended as the Sahabas didn't go to graves for prayer and hadiths said lower graves as high graves lead to polytheism and creation worship which is wrong. Look at Nasir al Hanbali community pages on Saudi vs. Ottomon graves with hadith citations!
Wahdat al Wujud is from the Prophet AS directly from the Muwatta when he (SAWS) said "Do not curse time, for Allah is Time" (ktab al kalam, 3rd Hadith first page) Imam an Nawawi said its a metaphor to explain that Allah swt's Will is behind the unravelling of Time. Since Allah Will is behind everything, the statement "Allah is everything" holds the same weight as the Prophet AS statement that "Allah is time". So Wahdat al Wujud is from the Sunnah directly. What do you make of this argument? Maybe the peer pressure would be too much if you ended up agreeing lol but I still want to hear your thoughts about it
a lot of people claim the aqeedah of Ibn Taymiyyah are the one's of the pious predecessors, even though its creed is not in line with the predecessors, as it emphasizes many ambiguous ayats of the Qur'an literally, whereas the default Athari position was a form of unreflective traditionalism, where you don't ask anything and leave the meaning to god. the Ash'ari and Maturidi do tafwidh, but they add up a meaning to find the hikma behind the ayat, while at the same time knowing that the true meaning is left to Allah. I really hope this makes people understand the difference. nonetheless, great video, there are some errors in the "Bi la Kayf" of Ibn Taymiyyah, as he imposes the modality of mutashabihat ayats, but a lot of them are pretty descriptive.
@@hxyzazolchak depends of what strand of athari we're talking about here, the true athari (which lives on through Ibn Qudamah) creed is the creed of the shahaba, which is not anthropomorphic at all, whereas those who follow the modern salafi creed and claim to be athari is unfortunately slightly anthropomorphic.
@@hxyzazolchak from my experience they ("Salafis" in particular) generally hold an anthropomorphic stance, as they take mentions of the "face" or "hands" or such of God to be literal. So they say God has a face and hands and legs but unlike those of humans. Mainstream Sunnis (Ash'ari and Maturidi) have usually held these as descriptive metaphors.
I think the Ashaari creed has been shaped by politics in a way to serve as an official state relgion. There are many similarities between it and the Christian orthodoxy, from which the Ashaarism has borrowed the "Divine right" among many other political feature. That was not possible without some theological resemblance too. We know that al-Kalam (Ashaari theology system) is mainly inspired by the Christology which is based on Aristotle syllogism. In a time when Aristotle was veneered either by the Church or by the Muslim erudits as well,Ibn Taymiyyah compiled one of the earliest critique studies to Aristotle to prove Aristole was wrong, just to serve his endeavor to refute Ashaarism, which opened the path for later ones such as Francis Bacon and René Descartes against the Catholic Church.
Great video! I like to understand ibn taymiyyahs alleged anthropomorphic view as not at all anthropomorphic. It's like describing a clock to someone who has never seen a clock. A clock has hands and a face, yet they have no resemblance to a humans hand and face. A chair or table has legs or feet, yet they bare no resemblance also. If you describe this to someone who has never seen a clock they would not understand the concept, but they will believe it's existence
Ok so the door has a different hand, the clock has a different hand, the fridge has a different hand, and what do they all have in common? They all have a body to it. so either way your doing tashbih which is kufr, When Allah says hand we accept the texts of course. However, hand has so many symbolical and lexicographical as well as PHYSICAL meanings. Since we have so many meanings this would be classed as Mutashabih and we do not say which of those it is. Rather, we do Tafwīdh by accepting the ayah (unlike the Jahmiyyah who reject and reinterpreted) and we say Allah has a hand or two hands and stop there. No further of, do I mean physical hand (which isn't possible for Allah anyways) do I mean metaphorical? We leave the meaning to Allah, yad is not to be translated into english, imam abu hanifa clearly states in fiqh al akbar not to translate yad into other languages, yad is not necessarily hand
@@80HDpilled no, thats a mu'tazili belief to say Allah created speech with Musa AS to hear, Imam Maturidis belief was that Allah creates letters and sounds through which Musa AS hears
@@kbayli.jsk1256 Imam Abu Haneefah (may Allah have mercy on him) said: Allah has a Hand, a Countenance and an Essence as He, may He be exalted, mentioned in the Qur’an. Whatever Allah, may He be exalted, has mentioned in the Qur’an of His having a Countenance, Hand and Essence, these are attributes of His which we affirm without discussing how. It cannot be said that His Hand is His power or blessings, because that is denying the attribute, and is the view of the Qadaris and Mu‘tazilah. Rather His hand is a divine attribute, and we do not discuss how it is; His wrath and His pleasure are divine attributes, and we do not discuss how they are. End quote from al-Fiqh al-Akbar, with commentary by Mullah ‘Ali al-Qaari, p. 85.
I am Hanifi, but agree with everything Ibn Taymiyah was saying. May Allah bless his soul, only mulhideen hates him. And ur pronunciation of Arabic words is so near to perfect. Good job
Many make the mistake of comparing "Salafism" with Protestantism. The "message" might be the same, but the application and the resources are very much different. Also, the main divide here is between the Salafists and the Asharite/Maturidites. Shiites are not included in the picture, as they're a completely different breed of Islam and are considered extreme heretics by both Salafists and Asharites (excluding extreme sufis, who share many of Shiites traditions hence they consider Salafists enemies by nature). The message is clear and simple. We have clear and unambiguous instruction from our Prophet peace be upon him, the companions, and all Imams that follows from the first three generations, that whoever and whatever innovations, big or small, that is introduced into the religion (Islam), is rejected. This leads to the major division between Salafists and Asharites, is that Asharites, very much later after the Prophet's death (peace be upon him), they went into explaining Allah's nature and attributes in a manner that is extremely new and innovative, bringing in western philosophies and sciences in order to substantiate their beliefs (with good intention ofcourse). Again, I have to stress the point that the divide between the Salafis and the Ashartes is not as extreme, not even mildly close, as the divide between Sunnis in general and Shiites. This is proven by the adoption of knowledge between Salafis and Asharites, where (majority of) Asharites consider Ibn Taymiyyah as a great scholar (with mistakes), whereas Shias consider him the number 1 heretic and enemy of their religion.
What an amazing video!!!! U explain all these arguments in such simple terms and so non judgmentallyit amazing!!!! Just shows ur academic excellence.💖.
Well, when I explain things I would not act is if there is an "Islamic terrorism". But 'Let's talk Religion" felt the need to repeat this narrative. In my opinion it is normal that people defend themselves when attacked - also in Muslim lands. "But we need to explain jihadist movements!" Yes, on one unimportant page and not in a negative way.
A lot of folks here drawing parallels between protestantism/Luther and Ibn Taymiyyah enterprise. But there is a KEY difference between the two attempts at “Reformation”; whereas Luther wanted to make every Christian a priest itself (which is why he translated Bible in German), Ibn Taymiyyah wanted to go back to religion interpreted by prophets companions.
Ibn taymiyyah said follow pure Islam,there is only one God who has created invented designed and can destroy us why you people ask to a grave or shrine he was exactly right, 90 percent of Indian Muslis ,98 percent of Bangladeshi Muslims,99 percent Malaysia and Indonesian Muslims follow him
@@mdi786 no they don't. Most of Indian subcontinent follow their own revival movement (deobandi) which is a staunch enemy of the wahhabi and salafi movements. The deobandi scholars have called ibn tahmiyah a heretic.
@@vinlondon8904 it is the same thing thought in every mosque in India about Islam do not visit shrine for any favours it is biddat but you can present Salam to them , follow pure Islam as it was during the time of prophet Mohammed the teachings are same which are thought in subcontinent as thought by the Ibn taymiyyah
@@vinlondon8904 stop lying Ulama of Deoband respect Shaykh al islam ibn taymiyyah and say he is from ahlul sunnah. Check darul uloom deoband fatwa website.
16:57 It is not to ibn Taymiyyah that all forms of innovations are wrong rather it is sahih hadith in Sunan an Nasāi' which is as: It was narrated that Jabir bin 'Abdullah(رضى الله عنه) said: "In his Khutbah the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) used to praise Allah as He deserves to be praised, then he would say: 'Whomsoever Allah (سبحان وتعالى) guides, none can lead him astray, and whomsoever Allah sends astray, none can guide. The truest of word is the Book of Allah and best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad. The worst of things are those that are newly invented; every newly-invented thing is an *Innovation* and *every innovation* is going *astray* , and every going *astray is in the Fire* .'....." Sunan an-Nasa'i, 1578 In-Book Reference: Book 19, Hadith 23
How can you say that? He poisoned Islam, and the logical fallacies he committed are very easily refuted. Plus, thanks to him, ISIS and all the terrorists use his ideas and carry out his fatwas, and people were killed and women were raped by this man’s ignorance. He is a plague to the Muslim uma, and for a man who claimed that we should adhere to the prophet’s way, he inspired the complete opposite of what our prophet taught us. Wake up man!
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Thanks for the great content. I will be really interested in an episode about ( Nahj Al-Balagha ) book. It's one of the most prominent and controversial books in the Islamic history. Imam Ali (Prophet Muhammad's son-in-law) explains how God 'Allah' does not need time, space, nor limbs. Very rich book.
Thank you for a great video. I do believe that many non Muslim scholars come to Ibn Taymiyyah with a tainted view because of biases against modern Islamic movements. Also a note that yusef al qardawi is still alive. The last quote indicated he died in 1926, that's probably his birth year. Thanks again for a great video.
17:25 Are you saying Ibn Taymiyya disagreed with the compilation of the Quran? You mentioned "to Ibn Taymiyya all forms [of innovation] are wrong" and then listed a few things that are regarded as generally positive innovations. If this is the case, where would we find the source of Ibn Taymiyya claiming bid'aa against the compilation of the Quran and other "positive innovations".
Great video!! But there is something I never understood why no one mention it when talking about ibn taymiyyah that his philosophy is fundamentally an islamization of stoicism while taking none of their ethics the issue of corporealism and anthromorphism also the issue of تسلسل الحوادث (tasalsul alhawādith) and some of his critique of aristotelian logic comes from stoic philosophy it’s barely mentioned I understand the puritanical nature of his teaching and his followers would be discouraging to mention this aspect of his philosophy but why it’s barely even by people that aren’t his followers and some time his critics is beyond me
if you want to see islam you must go to the prophet and what he said , and what the quran said ! these philosophers came later and with their own thinking they changed islam to suit themselves !! there is no need for this in islam as the religion was completed with muhammad !! no need for no philosophy my friend !
Stoicism in its time was highly influenced by Judaism in the first place. Many aspects of Stoicism is in line with Abrahamic tradition because of this. Taymiyyah's similarities with Stoicism does not mean he was influenced by them. Islam in its core have already many similarities and Taymiyyah tried to bring them out to the light.
@@garyoates4142 أخي في الله إن كان كلامك في الدين نفسه فليس تعليقي عن الدين من حيث هو دين الله وإن كان الأمر في ابن تيمية رحمه الله فليس هو بالدين حتى ترد علي بمثل هذا وإنما الكلام عن تأثر ابن تيمية بأصحاب المظلة فإما أن تنفي أو تثبت فإن جهلت فالصمت أولى وأكمل فرمي المقال في غير مقامه عبث لا يراد وإن كنت ممن يقول أن ابن تيمية لم يتفلسف أصلًا فلم تقرأ له حرفًا أو أنك من الدليلية وامثالهم فهداك الله من تلك الضلالة
@@ercaner_buzbey Do you have sources about the jewish influence in stoicism? because I’m interested to read more If what ibn taymiyyah said only a general similarity that would be probable and you can say that about his critique on aristotelian logic to come from another greek or islamic philosophies but when ibn taymiyyah denies exnihilo creation and the hadith: (كان الله ولم يكن شيء معه) wich could be translated to: (god existed without anything existing with him) that because he did believe in تسلسل الحوادث I don’t know what is the English translation for it but the meaning of it is that god creat the world from already existing matter that comes from a previous world and the matter in the new world would the source of the future world that doesn’t exist now it’s basically the stoic cyclic creation if god wasn’t part of the cycle of course this isn’t the only aspect of stoic philosophy that influenced ibn taymiyyah but it’s one that is ignored while it was one the justifications of his enemies against him for denying a hadith and what they saw as a heretical amplication of these philosophical positions (mostly corporialism and anthropomorphism of god but also anothers)
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Alhamdulillah!!! Here is yet another informative golden gem in my my way to the journey of Islam. Thanks a lot. It couldn't be much better!!!
May Allah keep you on the truth and being vigilant !
@@Bat7Yamhe doesn't interpret anything he just explains what other people/scholars have said...
This is a fascinating video that puts a lot of what we’re seeing today in its proper perspective. Thank you for this delightfully respectful, truthful, and entertaining video!
yes, we see muslims defending killing apostates largely based on ibn taimayya. what do you think of his fatwa of his calling for the killing the druze as apostates?
Whoa. This is one massive achievement. You should really be proud of what you just did. Thank you so much my man!
stop bothering him by asking are you muslim are you muslim ! better to search .
@@wriimonmir it’s a little weird of you to tell this commenter to stop saying something when they’re not even saying that in the comment..
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I'm a native Arabic Muslim and I've been researching Islamic literature for as far as i can remember, and to be honest, your coverage was far beyond my imagination and exposed me to some ideas i have never thought of. Great effort man really appreciate it 🙏
Well, I'm a native Arab ex-Muslim and this channel is my favorite in term of honest research, no BIAS in favor or against any mythology including Islam. Other UA-camrs( atheists and theists) are subjective in their reporting .
I literally never heard about Ikhwan al-Safa or Al-Hachachin until I started following this amazing channel.
Doubt
@@farhatk6054 why you left islam? Is islam really not true or it is but we see it from radical pov
@@farhatk6054 why have you left Islam? I've never found a good reason for it
@@zaryabshah3268 @عمر
I left Islam znd religion over all simply because when you (really) dig into it, it does not make any sense, for Islam for instance, a lot of Quranic verses and stories of Muhamed spitting the moon, riding on a horse to the 7th sky where Allah exists ( I thought he were everywhere ?) and tons of stories that completely contradicts science and basic common sense.
Sacking? Mongols sacking Baghdad is quite putting lightly. They slaughtered at least a quarter million ppl like animals and raized the city to ground.
If they only sacked, seen some art and literature would have been saved.
Is there any archaeological proof of the quarter-million claim?
@@genekalutsky8813 They burned people like they burned books. Can't find proof if ppl turned to dust if thats what you are implying.
@@Roland_Deschain The burning of the books was invented in 14th century AFAIK. And modern estimates for victims of the sacking do not exceed 90 000
@@Roland_Deschain People don't burn up completely even in crematoria. The quarter-million victims claims are clearly exaggerated.
@@genekalutsky8813 Burning books have happened since ancient times from Greece to China
What can my enemies do to me? My Paradise is in my heart; it goes with me wherever I am. If they kill me, it is martyrdom. If they exile me from my land, it is a vacation in the Path of Allah. If they imprison me, it is to allow me a private devotion with Allah.
Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullaah).
He was not a good person, he was full of hate and was looking for a ways to justify killing other human beings
and he said 'kill the druze'. what do you think of that?
@@mikemalzahn nothing wrong with that in my opinion, cope harder
@@mikemalzahnDruze are kuffār lol.
Hats Off to your devotion, good interpretation and presentation.
Much Respect!
God Bless Shiekhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah
ISIS 🥷
God will never bless stupidity and ignorance.
@@aristotleinbottle8012 That's why you should very, very worried and try to educate yourself about real Islam.
@@eelmohamed he has aristole in his name, he is either a philosopher or part of the ahlul bidah lmaooo
Amazing video!. Would love to see a video on Ibn Al Qayyim the foremost student of Ibn Taymiyyah.
The distinguished students of Ibn Taymiyyah are many and they had a great influence in the Islamic library, some of them excelled in jurisprudence, interpretation of the Qur’an, doctrine, etc.
@@عبدالله-ن6ه2ص tell us some of theese other students other than ibn Qayyim
@@dom3073 ibn Rajab, Ad dhahabi, Ibn kathir
Islamic medicine, if there's any, covered by Ibnul Qoyyim Al Jauzi, this topic is good for future video
@@dom3073 there is ibn rajab a very known hanbali scholar which rulings are still followed till today by hanbali scholars, Al-dhahabi which work on hadith is used by everyone, and ibn kathir, which tafsir is the most well known and famous today, mohammad ibn abdul hadi al-maqdisi the writer of Al-mu7arrir in hadith, jamal al-deen al-muzzi the one who wrote tahtheeb al-kamal, A very known book in hadith, ibn mufli7 al-maqdisi, who also is known for his hanbali fiqh
May Allah have mercy on Shaykhul Islam Ibn Taymiah Rahimahullah for his balanced understanding of Islamic creed and straunch opposition to religious innovations and saint and grave worshipping.
And he "corrected" God and his prophet, 700 years after the last revelation.
Just created a religion based on his taste and (mis) understanding of actual Islam.
@@farzein4002 an expected answer from ahlul biddah ..nvm may allah swt make u and me strict on the path of prophet pbuh and his companion
@@mannankhavi7596 you completely misunderstanding what a Buddha is...
If someone "correcting" God and Prophet then he is a bidditi (i.e. Ibne timiya and Abdul wahab).
@@farzein4002 give an example
@@farzein4002 I'll give u one
Seeking tawassul thru dead
Are u guys that smart
To make something opining to be as good deeds which prophet pbuh didn't do which allah swt didn't commanded
Inauzbillah
introducing in this perfect religion should be considered correcting the creator instead of someone who's call was tawheed
Great video. We absolutely love a video on Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya
Very well done, highly objective and precise.
Thank you. I I truly appreciate your very informative topics in your videos!
Goated vid, this is the turning point inshallah
One can not understand ibn taymiyya without understanding the situation of the middle east in his time.
The middle east today is very similar to his time, a divided post-caliphate muslim world.
This is why he's very popular
You're right
It is true, but his influence is more widespread due to Pan-Islamism and the lack of any substantial power in the region. Although divided, the Mamluk Sultanate was strong, defeating the Crusader and Ilkhanate armies North and West
He is very popular because he was invoked by wahhabi+saudi movement to overtake the rule of Hijaz from the Hashimites, and with enough oil money and the appearance of legitimacy of governing the two holiest cities in Islam you have the situation we have today.
@@ayyashC no, he was also as famous as now before the formation of Saudi Arabia
no it is not the same, today is different kind of worse and but not in every aspects in his time the abbasid caliphate was still existing in egypt as a religious leadership under the political power of mamelooks, but today , Britain and the european powers managed to extinguish the caliphate for good, and the west imposed its plans on the region and forbade any chance for the return of unified muslim state but in the same time there is more access to information and people are more free but not all free from the belief of myths and the lies of suffism
This truly is an outstanding work!
Thank you so much Philip for all the amazing content that you post on your channel. I was looking for this video for so long. It came right on time. If you can do another one on Ibn Al Qayim Al Djawziya that would be awesome. Once again a million thanks :)
This Salafi moment reminds me a lot of the broader Protestant and Puritan Christian movements in the much later centuries that aimed to "purify" the dominant religion which was perceived to have strayed away it's origin both carrying a similar legacy in their respective realms of influence (but obviously with different overall timelines/trajectories). There is also some ideological similarity in his legal approach to what we would call Constitutional Originalism in the modern United States.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Protestantism and Salafism are essentially the same movement but one resulted in a very liberal culutre and the other a very conservative one
@@emZee1994 I disagree, both have resulted in varying degrees of progressivism and conservatism at different points in time. And ultimately while both are technically "radical" their goal is to conserve a form of religiosity that they perceive as true, pure, and original. Those two theological movements, although coming from a similar thought process, they have been impacted by different material cultures and histories which impacts how they are perceived by wider society and between societies.
Also - it seems to me - they both have a literalist approach when it comes to how they intrepret the religious texts.
@@SanFranFan30 Two parallel lines starting from different points will end at different points. This doesn't deny the parallel aspect (although I agree that this is oversimplification, unlike atoms, subjects involving humans cannot be put into mathematical formulas)
@@ChannelDefault spot on.
Informative, objective and accurate illustration as usual. Thank you brother.
Ibn Taymiyya, easily one of the most influential and great scholars of islam. Extremely intelligent and pious. May Allah bless him and his family.
You should do Ibn Hanbal next!
Awesome, I suggest that you make a video about people who lived when Moghols attacked the Islamic countries.There are lots of people who had a great influence on Islamic world that lived in that century, people like Rumi or Ghazali or some of the most famous Iranian poets. I think it would be great if you analize their life through the context which they lived in.
There is no time in Islamic world that they have this number of famous people.
Ghazali has much to answer for
He already made a video on imam-al-ghazali..
Ghazali lived before the mongol invasion .
His influence in the Islamic world is gigantic compared to Ibn tahmiyah.
The reason why ibn tahmiyah didn't have a lot of influence during his time is because of imam ghazali.
Of course it would have been nice if they lived at the same time. Tahmiyah would have learned a thing or two about Islam through imam ghazali.
Not to say that ibn tahmiyah was less of a scholar. Afterall he was called Shaykh al-Islām.
@@vinlondon8904 hahahaha how ignorant of you comparing sheikh al Islam ibn taymiya to al Ghazali obviously Ibn taymiya is way beyond his league because unlike Ghazali ibn tamiya sticks to Quran and sunnah Ghazali didn’t that why in his last days it was very very hard for him to get out from doubts
@@ismailmounsif1109 shake Islam my ass, every one hate us because of him
It's always good to understand why people turn to violence and murder as a righteous cause because it's being done to them.
That's bs. The Khanate burnt Bagdad, not Damascus. They were even in China and Europe. And 90% of them don't turn to Hamas and Al-Quda in modern time. They want to kill because they want to kill. Simple as that.
this video was really good. Congrats on the accurate information and comments.
Thanks. Great as always. Please make a detailed video on how neoplatonism, gnosticism and sufism have influenced Ismailism. Would love to see your take on it.
As a modern Salafi, I wanted to thank you for a fair and objective presentation about this topic - you were careful with your words and despite the very difficult subject matter, you really treated it like a completely unbiased documentary. That is truly hard to find nowadays; may Allah reward you.
You have goat beards. You follow the goat. Not God. Wild goatmen.
@@cowsmuggler1646 the Prophet sullalahu alaihi wasallam was a much better man than you, as was Jesus, as was Moses - you are nothing compared to them, yet you make fun of them, and only show your own stupidity and corruption. They all had beards, and if you do not then you are more like a woman than a man.
@@cowsmuggler1646 Why attack em, because he looks like a man? (Unlike you)
@@cowsmuggler1646 vegetable
That's because people are united on division
Wauv! Thank you. I'm not muslim, but I really enjoyed watching it, since I like to understand the problems with(in) islam in the world today. Thank you, once again! Keep more coming, please!!
The problem in islamic world is made by the west to steal oil from the desert .
It’s natural to have schematics in every religion.
So salafism rose during the Mongolian invasion and revived during the colonial invasion 🤔
its much deeper
Ibn Taymiyyah didn’t have much followers after his death
Salafism is a modern movement. He is simply a retroactive influence on it
@@thirdocean3784 Unfortunately, mostly women i've heard because of his stances on divorce, which was much more relax than conservative scholars, but Allah knows best.
Welp looks like we know what's coming due to western invasions...
please enable auto generated subtitles. It will help those who dont speak English as first language.
Great video, please make more of these
This so informative and concise that does not compete for time...Thank you for sharing
Thank you for bringing this information to us Philip it's clear that Ibn Taymiyya's ideology is still very influential and I think us understanding this will go one step towards a greater understanding of the issues it has led to and the fact that Islam, like all religions is no monolithic edifice, it contains just as much diversity of thought as all of humanity itself..
Ibn Tamiya is a cursed pig
@@husshuss2652 maybe you give him your good deeds and take his sins for your lies as hadith bankrupt says!
I think the word Monolithic in itself is deeply problematic and so subjective in this context that is becomes moot. Honestly, Islam is pretty monolithic when contrasted against other faiths. WHat I think is happening here is people outside of Islam watch this channel without a real-world sense of how nuanced Islam is beyond an academic discussion. By discussing these details it may seem more "non-monolithic " than it actually is. Monolithic is not always a negative. But depends on what we are discussing and from whose perspective. Still if you come to South Africa or Kenya or Ethiopia, a mosque is a mosque and the religion is pretty clear cut. Ramadan is Ramadan where ever you go.
@@husshuss2652 i‘m a Sufi. But i still love and respect THE GREAT ibn Taymiyyah, he was a great Scholar you have to respect
@@husshuss2652 Allah will punish you
What a great, balanced and informative video. Thank you so much. God bless you!!!
Excellent video, and a fair coverage IMO.
Since you spoke about Bi-La Kayf and Kalam, can you also make videos about Al-ash'ari, Athari, and Al-Maturadi, and the Islamic theology of absolute rationalism (late mu'tazilah)?
EDIT: Also hoping you explain to people tawil and tafwid.
Mut'azila are weirdos
@@bayern1445 just like the wobblers
@@r.a1301
What is your problem with
Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab رحمه الله ?
That should be left to Islamic theologians
those who lie about Allah?
Feeling honoured to be the first one to comment! Love your channel Mr. Fillip. :)
Accidentally added the video to a few playlists even though it is technically not out yet!
Hope you liked it nonetheless! 🙂
@@LetsTalkReligion Always! :)
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He was in the way. Plain and simple. You can’t have peace with a person like him around.
What library is the book you authored on establishing peace, stored in? Happy to buy. An Amazon link might be better if you have that on hand.
@@obaid5761 mocking someone for their statement instead of bringing a legitimate counter statement to encourage discussion speaks volumes. Be better. You have every right to disagree, mockery isn't the way to do so.
yeah, he was in the way by having wrong ideas about Allah himself.
@@obaid5761 its called common sense, perhaps you’ve heard of it while not having it. If you study enough history you’ll not ask silly questions.
@@kevinsmithgaming 🙏
Great work! I think I can add one point:
Ibn Taymiyya's harsh fatwas on shia in general were motivated by politics, The mongol illkhanate accepted islam and favoured Shia ideology over sunni ideology, that meant Muslims in levant had to fight invading MUSLIM mongols. That made the notion to fight mongols back less popular,as they already had an overwhelming power in addition to their cruelty, and fact that mongols accepted islam made it even more complicated.
In fact Ibn taymiyya's most popular book( Minjah Al sunna Al nabawiyya) is a response to a book called ( Minhaj Al Karama fi Ithbat Al Imamah) written by Ibn Mutahhar Al Hilli who was the head of Shia scholars during his lifetime(first to be given the title Ayatollah), Ibn Al Mutahhar himself was a student of Nasir Aldin Al Tusi, A prominent Shia scholar, who was an advisor to the infamous Hulagu Khan.
It's accepted among Sunnis and Shia today that Ibn Al Mutahhar was the reason Mongol illkhanate officials favoured Shia doctrine over its Sunni counterpart.
So in my own personal opinion: Ibn Taymiyya viewed Shia as an enemy that was trying to undermine the Muslim world. He never viewed them as Muslims with different views.
Same goes to other Shia minorities: alawites and duruz: he accused (in his fatwa) these minorities of siding and aiding mongols and crusaders.
In short: Ibn Taymiyya and his critique of Shia and their beliefs were the result of Muslim-Mongol conflict
His critiques of shias is because of their beliefs which are totally against Quran
Another made up story by a shia 😂😂 just like all other stories of shias
@@zeeshanbhat6862This is what people don't want to accept and they bring all sorts of other reasons
One of the greatest imams in all of time ❤
True
fazur rahman...d 1988..AND shk Qaradawee..d 1926..?:as to the end? true or not?
Praised be ibn tayimmia because he destroyed islam and saved us from this effort. Since ibn tayimmia islam is in decline and losing itself.
@@sagn1962 ..othe rcomment abiove..qaradawee..didnt die in 1926....? ur comment too sorry to say bit misleading apologies for own mis understandiung.....ibn taymaya did sewrv ice or not..to ie worlds solution islam...?..u hav emuslim name..suspicion sinful..r u muslim
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as to islam decline far from...still growing in numbers...fastestb growing today..y?..yes quality c.f to quantity..zionmiasm..has the capital power
wow...talking falsehood..u the reason ior the satans..trutrh is free as as speech too..ty..may Allah Allaha as jesus called Him too..ie not his self..ie pray to himself....reward us all..have a song..through heavens eyes..the the ...stevens things..meeeeeooooow...
Allah bless ..as His light shines on..deut 33 1 2 3...the fig tree chapter...palestine olive hill...freedom awaits...Allah Akbar
Great work I really loved your objective on this topic. Btw its really beautiful to see Muslim (at least sounds like:)) names between your patrons
Although many Muslim with disagree with this man and many will agree with this personality. Thank you for the upload.
But is God happy?
it seems to me that radical protestant ideas permeated islam in 18th century, and that the clerics at the time searched for some kind of person in the history of islam which held similar views to name it their predecessor. Ibn Taymiyya got that honor.
I think you are 100% correct
I'll mostly agree. I also think there is also some correlation between ibn Taymiyyah living in a post caliphate society and the fact that the salafi movement really took off after the abolition of the Ottoman (caliphate)
@@emZee1994 they are very different, protestants have their own bible... where as Quran is preserved, so Salafis are a true revival...
also liberals can be very strict look at marxism in a moral vacum balance it key!
It's the opposite, salafis are most peaceful and shias are the scorned ones. Turkey in early 1900s was plagued by cultural tasawuf which lead to secularism. Jordan wanted to keep Arabic and rebelled with uk backing, but Jordan lost to Saudis who united Arabia on 1920s.
Saudi formed in 1925 & to 1980 no terror except tel aviv, why? In 73 Saudis & Egypt beat tel aviv for sinai, cia backed iran in 79 to be israelis ally. Iran follow she'a fayruz 1st suicide kariji who knifed Umar then self. Saudi booted al queda, This inspired iran to be original jet bombers, & take in al queda, lie on iraq wmds and leave arms for isil to Aid Assads tyranny.
Thank you so much for sharing this figure. Such a comprehensive video! Indeed, it is difficult to consider Ibn Taymiyya a Sufi, because usually academics categorise a Sufi into two schools, either "Tasawwuf Sunni" or "Tasawwuf Falsafi". However, Ibn Taymiyya himself in fact cannot be classified into these two schools of Sufism. Fazlur Rahman felt the need to make up a new typology to cover Ibn Taymiyya's Sufism style outside of Sunni Sufism and Falsafi Sufism. This typology is termed neo-Sufism by him. The views of Ibn Taymīyah and his loyal disciple, Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya, are then classified as neo-Sufism. These two classical figures are considered by him the pioneers of neo-Sufism; a Sufism school characterised by a great emphasis on moral motives and the application of the methods of remembrance and muraqabah to God.
In contrast to Rahman, several academics such as Mustafa Hilmi and 'Abd al-Qadir Mahmud categorise the position of Ibn Taymiyya's Sufism outside the typology of Sunni Sufism and Falsafi Sufism as well as neo-sufism, that is "Salafi Sufism" (al-Tasawwuf al-Salafi). This typology is considered in line with the model of Salafism of Ibn Taymiyya.
he is successful in uncovering the disgrace of sufism in many of his works. The name tasawwuf itself was considered heretical because not a product of the prophet and his companions or the tabiin. How could he be considered a Sufi if the name itself was rejected by him.
I think he just criticized the extreme sufis, despite many, but not all of them...
@@alturatsalturats9691 You shouldn't project the present onto the past. He was not anti-Sufi and I even read a 14th (iirc) century Islamic book about many Muslim Awliya' that referred to him as a Sufi. Most modern-day Sufis would agree with a lot of his critiques of popular sufism practiced by lay people. Let's not create divides where they don't exist.
@Qizilbash Salafiyah isn't a thing to begin with, the meaning of Salafiyah is the return to the pure islamic teaching of the Quran and prophet without whatever Sufi's scholars innovations
@Qizilbash @Qizilbash but it is a historical fact based on the hadith: "the best people are those living in my generation, and then those who will follow them, and then those who will follow the latter." Inevitably the name Salafiyah was literally not known but as a factual history it is not merely "a name".
i'm really enjoying the change up to a different type of figure/history of a different ideological movement.
This is alot of work you have done. Thanks
Ibn Taymiyyah was based, not saying I agree with all his views, but the man knew how to hold his own.
Ibn Taymiyyah repopularized the religion of Muhammed when sufism graveworshipping became famous, like mujaddids tend to do.
It's fascinating how much Ibn Taymiyyah parallels Martin Luther. I was already somewhat familiar with Ibn Taymiyyah, but this time around it hit me that what he's advocating for is remarkably similar to (though definitely not the same as) Luther's principles of sola fide and sola scriptura.
Why do you like isis.
For the same reason you think the Eiffel Tower is a conspiracy concocted in 1473 by Bigfoot, Nixon, and a cabal of Armenian cheese industry moguls. In short, I don’t.
Actually the muslim version of Martin Luther would be Ibn Abdulawahab
@@Dhoom1981 I can certainly see an argument for that. It would depend a bit on what you think the defining significance of Martin Luther is in Christian history. These kinds of comparisons only go so far.
@@Salsmachev Simply because - as stated in the video - for both Martin Luther and Abdel Wahab, their legacy was achieved during their lifetime, unlike Ibn Taymiyyah, whose influence began long after his death.
A wise man who knows the religion of Islam's fudmentals and the current reformers Like Inn Tymiyya
Ibn tayyimah never reformed, he followed religion like salaf and prophet. Thats what his intentions were
Finally a video on Ibn Taymiyya, glad you touched this quite controversial figure in Islam.
the face of islamic stagnation i would say
@@imranragimov7781 whether you take Ibn Taymiyyah or the Sufi sunni scholars he opposed, both are opposed to unchecked “modernism” or “liberalism”. Both would be guilty of this “stagnation” in your book. Its not like Sufis would allow western civilization like unchecked progress if they had political dominance. Just saying.
@@imranragimov7781 and I am not saying there is anything wrong in being opposed to liberalism/modernism. Islam is the only religion that stands like a rock against this. Alhamdulillah for Islam..
@@MSS-nt9ko Depends on what you consider "liberalism". If you are speaking about progressism or post-structuralism, you can be sure that those are concepts that islam by definition will always be oxymoron, but if we are speaking about "freedom" and "free will", that´s when "anti-liberalism" starts to get dangerous, and, unfortunately, the second definition is the main used today by whahhabis and other terrorists disguised as sheep.
@@MSS-nt9ko why you against modernism ? Everything in universe is made to develop. Our planet once was piece of boiling lava. Now it has greens and life.
In the same way life should develop too.
It’s God’s plan.
Liberalism means freedom. There are lots of totalitarian countries these days.
Is it good someone with power can decide your destiny ?
Thank you, brother. Very interesting and informative video. It is puzzling to balance his rather Puritan attitude towards the interpretation of textual sources and personal ijtihad with his aggressive theology, that is closer to anthropomorphism than not.
I think this is why most of the Salafi schools now completely drop the kalam/theology arguments, and focus on the importance of worship and its detailed technicalities.
Was mid mental breakdown and got video notification. All smiles now.
May Allah have mercy on him Aameen. Sheikhul Islam
do you agree with ibn taimayya that the druze should be killed as apostates?
@shahriar4706 yeah, so how do you square that with Islam supposedly being a tolerant religion? 'the religion of peace' and of course the oft quoted 2:256? I'm i correct to assume you equate someone leaving Islam with 'treason'?
what do you think of the verse fo the koran that says someone believed, then disbelieved and then believed again and so forth? did they always 'repent' in 3 days and therefore weren't killed?
@shahriar4706 إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ ثُمَّ كَفَرُوا۟ ثُمَّ ءَامَنُوا۟ ثُمَّ كَفَرُوا۟ ثُمَّ ٱزْدَادُوا۟ كُفْرًۭا لَّمْ يَكُنِ ٱللَّهُ لِيَغْفِرَ لَهُمْ وَلَا لِيَهْدِيَهُمْ سَبِيلًۢا ١٣٧
4:137 Indeed, those who believed then disbelieved, then believed and again disbelieved-˹only˺ increasing in disbelief-Allah will neither forgive them nor guide them to the ˹Right˺ Way.
-no mention of needing to kill them?
again, am i correct to assume you get your fiqh form the 84th book of bukhari and the quote of muhammad: 'whoever changes his [islamic] religion, kill him'?
What you want to say exactly
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@@mikemalzahnwe don't have an issue with Apostasy Law and I don't care to reconcile that with liberal Muslim delusions that Islam is PURELY PEACE AND TOLERANCE, if Islam was that way, that would be evil and blameworthy, we are also against other immoral ideologies, just as we are anti liberal, we are anti racists, we are anti communists, we are anti idolatry, we are anti Nazism, etc etc, each group has its own unique problems with us and sometimes has similar problems with us, but each group tends to have doubts and disgusts relative to their invented assumptions about what's right or wrong, if you want me to truly take your ideology as truthful then produce proof for your assumptions being truly descriptive of true morality, otherwise if you can't justify these basic beliefs, then why should i be deemed immoral by some fictitious invention guessing at what morality is?
The hanbali mazhab was actually not the strictest, Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal usually gave multiple rulings for issues because he believed in the leniency of Islam.
The strictest mazhab is generally considered to be Hanafi.
I think what he meant was strictest in its methodology brother, hope it helps
Do you have a source on him believing in the leniency of Islam?
Atharee creed basically. Strictly keeping in line with Qur'an and Sunnah and avoiding opinions in the absence of scriptural references.
Nope. the most lenient and has room for the thought and even sufism to express itself is the hanafi. It goes like this Hanafi>shafi'i>Maliki>Hanbali from most lenient to the most extreme
You have never studied fiqh to say this
An unbiased overview of Ibn Taymiyyah. Thank you.
He was seriously biased
@@Omer1996E.C 100%
Great video. Well balanced & insightful as always
I have read Ibn Taymiyya’s biography by Jon Hoover, it was really good!
Actually it wasn't?! Jon Hoover is not fair enough or even about his historical judgment on Ibn Taymiyya's
Jon Hoover should consider the possibility of vengeance + conservatives dialema but he was so fast to make direct comments from Ibn Taymiyya's advisers.
I hope you will enjoy seeing my comment and read more about this problems in near future .
Love you and respect.
@Dinesh Churoria 😂😂😂
@Dinesh Churoria ok dinesh. go worship a cow or the male insemination tool.
@@ahmedelmogi5113 عندك كتاب يتكلم عن ابن تيمية افضل من هوفر
اذا عندك امثلة اعطنا جزاك الله خير
Jon Hoover is a liar
What a good video!
Also when the letter 'b' comes after a 'n', the 'n' morphs into a 'm' sound- for ease of pronunciation.
E.g, Hanbali turns into Hambali.
Also in the Qur'an; 'min ba'di' morphs into ' mim ba'di', meaning..after...
This is false. This is only in tajweed of Quran and does not reflect outside of the quran so hanbali is correct
@@دروسالشيخيحيىالحجوري regardless, isn't it easier to say the 'm' sound though?
@@دروسالشيخيحيىالحجوري I'm not saying you have to, but just for ease
@@re_patel no because it would be changing his name. This a common mistake and I asked one of the students of knowledge studying hanbali fiqh in Medina he informed me that ita not correct in the Arabic language and that this is only from the tajweed rulings when reciting Quran.
@@دروسالشيخيحيىالحجوري ok
Long-awaited episode! I did a presentation on Ibn Taymiyya and his understanding of Theodicy a couple of months ago. His actual life and teaching is certainly more nuanced than the popular caricature and whether you agree with his worldview or specific ideas or not, one has to admit his great importance as a Muslim theologian, maybe second only to Al-Ghazālī
Search Fakhr al-Din al-Razi, also a great theologian, the best imo because he had some kind of honesty that was rare in those times. Al-Razi basically came to the conclusion that the mind (or logic) can only go so far in understanding the world (and God), I think Ibn Taymiyya built on his achievements.
Also, I think Al-Ghazālī isn't the brightest of muslim theologians, he's just famous in western circles because William Lane Craig popularized him.
@@eladdad why do you think that Al-Ghazali is not the brightest in your opinion? If not him then who do you think is?
@@strangeair3917 I haven't seen any interesting ideas Al-Ghazali had to offer (in theology/philosophy), he was mostly traditional and I don't usually hear his name when listening to discussions about islamic philosophy.
I would pick Al-Razi as the best theologian I know of, he discusses philosophical issues in a skeptic way unlike any of his contemporaries.
Ibn Taymyya is also a genius, but I'm still trying to understand his world view.
@@eladdad Al-Ghazali was so influential in his time that he even indirect caused the Almohad dynasty to reise to power in the west.
@@claudiotavares9580 I'm not disputing his influence but his theological/philosophical output compared to Al-Razi or Ibn Taymyya
Very well analysed development of Ibnu Tammiya’s views.
Impressive! Very brief but full of knowledge.
Actually i can argue three things that were said in this amazing video: 1. His "harsh" fatwa against alawits and duruz, it was not an unique fatwa of his own, and this fatwa had a political side in the context of thier negative role in the ongoing conficts that time, and this fatwa got very influent and popular because it came from such an important influent scholar/fighter and made him more popular. 2. His fatwa against mongols, again there was a historical and political context, when mongols invading the heart of the islamic empire and some of muslims were having second thoughts defending themselves against the invaders because some of them declared themselves muslims, so ibn teymiyye said that even if some of them believe in some islamic ideas and believes, they still should be fought back. 3. The views againt "taklid" that were mentioned in the video seems like the anti-taklid school in the 20th century, not ibn teymiyye's view himself, he always had been a hanbali scholar, but felt himself free to go beyond his hanbali school when he found it right, and had the courage to do it alot of times but in the frame of hanbali school, the nowadays school of salafis (or most of them) do not look to this that way, and some of them went too extreme in baning "taklid" completely
And i want to add something i believe in, ibn teymiyye's school influents a lot of movements nowadays (wahabis, salafis, isis, etc) but you can rarely find a scholar nowadays that follows ibn teymiyye's school from a to z, most of them are just following his theologic thoughts (regarding god's attributes). for example, he was totally against saint graves visiting, but when wahhabi movement started its war against sufi movements in hijaz area, ibn teymiyye's words was just used to justify the war, even if ibn teymiyye himself didnt mentioned a word about starting a war againt this graves! The same happend with al-qaida and takfir movements in general, i realy admire ibn teymiyye's work and message in his era, i believe he was a genius, and i realy get sad when i see movements using his name and writings to justify or support thier own thoughts and actions
Great points!
He should have mentioned the historical context for these fatwas instead of just making him out as some crazy secterian warmongeror. The alawis he takfired were people that used to attack the settlements of sunni Muslims, hence the harshness and permisibility to kill them.
@@muhammedmemduhoglu7854 isis came from al queda who the Saudis booted but cia 79 iran the original jet bombers took them in following shi'a st. fayruz who took Umar then his own life. view : *Saudi Arabian Foreign Minister Rips Apart The Raafidhi MaJEWsi Iranian Foreign Minister
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@@muhammedmemduhoglu7854 truth is ibn Abd. Wahab defended as the Sahabas didn't go to graves for prayer and hadiths said lower graves as high graves lead to polytheism and creation worship which is wrong.
Look at Nasir al Hanbali community pages on Saudi vs. Ottomon graves with hadith citations!
Wahdat al Wujud is from the Prophet AS directly from the Muwatta when he (SAWS) said "Do not curse time, for Allah is Time" (ktab al kalam, 3rd Hadith first page) Imam an Nawawi said its a metaphor to explain that Allah swt's Will is behind the unravelling of Time. Since Allah Will is behind everything, the statement "Allah is everything" holds the same weight as the Prophet AS statement that "Allah is time". So Wahdat al Wujud is from the Sunnah directly. What do you make of this argument? Maybe the peer pressure would be too much if you ended up agreeing lol but I still want to hear your thoughts about it
great neutral reporting on this great figure
a lot of people claim the aqeedah of Ibn Taymiyyah are the one's of the pious predecessors, even though its creed is not in line with the predecessors, as it emphasizes many ambiguous ayats of the Qur'an literally, whereas the default Athari position was a form of unreflective traditionalism, where you don't ask anything and leave the meaning to god. the Ash'ari and Maturidi do tafwidh, but they add up a meaning to find the hikma behind the ayat, while at the same time knowing that the true meaning is left to Allah. I really hope this makes people understand the difference.
nonetheless, great video, there are some errors in the "Bi la Kayf" of Ibn Taymiyyah, as he imposes the modality of mutashabihat ayats, but a lot of them are pretty descriptive.
I don't know what ibn taymiyyah wrote but atharis do not take make anthropomorphic interpretations.
@@hxyzazolchak depends of what strand of athari we're talking about here, the true athari (which lives on through Ibn Qudamah) creed is the creed of the shahaba, which is not anthropomorphic at all, whereas those who follow the modern salafi creed and claim to be athari is unfortunately slightly anthropomorphic.
@@hxyzazolchak from my experience they ("Salafis" in particular) generally hold an anthropomorphic stance, as they take mentions of the "face" or "hands" or such of God to be literal. So they say God has a face and hands and legs but unlike those of humans. Mainstream Sunnis (Ash'ari and Maturidi) have usually held these as descriptive metaphors.
I think the Ashaari creed has been shaped by politics in a way to serve as an official state relgion. There are many similarities between it and the Christian orthodoxy, from which the Ashaarism has borrowed the "Divine right" among many other political feature. That was not possible without some theological resemblance too. We know that al-Kalam (Ashaari theology system) is mainly inspired by the Christology which is based on Aristotle syllogism. In a time when Aristotle was veneered either by the Church or by the Muslim erudits as well,Ibn Taymiyyah compiled one of the earliest critique studies to Aristotle to prove Aristole was wrong, just to serve his endeavor to refute Ashaarism, which opened the path for later ones such as Francis Bacon and René Descartes against the Catholic Church.
@@HamzaBaqoushi Plato was way more influential between sunni erudits that Aristotle in the middle ages.
9:17 This is such a common response to disaster and genocide. So tragic.
Hahaha thanks for doing this topic! the Muslim Oliver cromwell! I remember I requested it 😁
As a person who read a lot of ibn teymiyye's work a long time ago, this is a video i waited a lot
Amazing work, thanks for your efforts this was an extremely well done and accurate put together video
Great video! I like to understand ibn taymiyyahs alleged anthropomorphic view as not at all anthropomorphic. It's like describing a clock to someone who has never seen a clock. A clock has hands and a face, yet they have no resemblance to a humans hand and face. A chair or table has legs or feet, yet they bare no resemblance also. If you describe this to someone who has never seen a clock they would not understand the concept, but they will believe it's existence
Ok so the door has a different hand, the clock has a different hand, the fridge has a different hand, and what do they all have in common? They all have a body to it. so either way your doing tashbih which is kufr,
When Allah says hand we accept the texts of course. However, hand has so many symbolical and lexicographical as well as PHYSICAL meanings. Since we have so many meanings this would be classed as Mutashabih and we do not say which of those it is. Rather, we do Tafwīdh by accepting the ayah (unlike the Jahmiyyah who reject and reinterpreted) and we say Allah has a hand or two hands and stop there. No further of, do I mean physical hand (which isn't possible for Allah anyways) do I mean metaphorical? We leave the meaning to Allah, yad is not to be translated into english, imam abu hanifa clearly states in fiqh al akbar not to translate yad into other languages, yad is not necessarily hand
@@kbayli.jsk1256 do you believe Musa AS heard Allah's voice?
@@80HDpilled no, thats a mu'tazili belief to say Allah created speech with Musa AS to hear, Imam Maturidis belief was that Allah creates letters and sounds through which Musa AS hears
@@80HDpilled amd i have many proofs and evidences for this
@@kbayli.jsk1256 Imam Abu Haneefah (may Allah have mercy on him) said: Allah has a Hand, a Countenance and an Essence as He, may He be exalted, mentioned in the Qur’an. Whatever Allah, may He be exalted, has mentioned in the Qur’an of His having a Countenance, Hand and Essence, these are attributes of His which we affirm without discussing how. It cannot be said that His Hand is His power or blessings, because that is denying the attribute, and is the view of the Qadaris and Mu‘tazilah. Rather His hand is a divine attribute, and we do not discuss how it is; His wrath and His pleasure are divine attributes, and we do not discuss how they are.
End quote from al-Fiqh al-Akbar, with commentary by Mullah ‘Ali al-Qaari, p. 85.
Great work.thank you
Another great teaching brother. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
I am Hanifi, but agree with everything Ibn Taymiyah was saying. May Allah bless his soul, only mulhideen hates him. And ur pronunciation of Arabic words is so near to perfect. Good job
And shia graves worshipers as well
Many make the mistake of comparing "Salafism" with Protestantism. The "message" might be the same, but the application and the resources are very much different.
Also, the main divide here is between the Salafists and the Asharite/Maturidites. Shiites are not included in the picture, as they're a completely different breed of Islam and are considered extreme heretics by both Salafists and Asharites (excluding extreme sufis, who share many of Shiites traditions hence they consider Salafists enemies by nature).
The message is clear and simple. We have clear and unambiguous instruction from our Prophet peace be upon him, the companions, and all Imams that follows from the first three generations, that whoever and whatever innovations, big or small, that is introduced into the religion (Islam), is rejected.
This leads to the major division between Salafists and Asharites, is that Asharites, very much later after the Prophet's death (peace be upon him), they went into explaining Allah's nature and attributes in a manner that is extremely new and innovative, bringing in western philosophies and sciences in order to substantiate their beliefs (with good intention ofcourse).
Again, I have to stress the point that the divide between the Salafis and the Ashartes is not as extreme, not even mildly close, as the divide between Sunnis in general and Shiites. This is proven by the adoption of knowledge between Salafis and Asharites, where (majority of) Asharites consider Ibn Taymiyyah as a great scholar (with mistakes), whereas Shias consider him the number 1 heretic and enemy of their religion.
What an amazing video!!!! U explain all these arguments in such simple terms and so non judgmentallyit amazing!!!! Just shows ur academic excellence.💖.
Well, when I explain things I would not act is if there is an "Islamic terrorism".
But 'Let's talk Religion" felt the need to repeat this narrative.
In my opinion it is normal that people defend themselves when attacked - also in Muslim lands.
"But we need to explain jihadist movements!" Yes, on one unimportant page and not in a negative way.
Great effort and excellent presentation, thank you.
Great video, it would've been nice to hear more about his refutation of deductive theology, bit nice summary ما شاء اللَّه!
Well documented, so far he seems like a righteous person saving the Muslims from ignorance and bidah
😂😂😂 He was father of extremism in his era. I am 💯% sure, he would be in hell for swaying muslims.
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Allah knows best.
May Allah have mercy on warrior of Tawheed Sheikh Al Islam Imam Ibn Taimiyyah.
A lot of folks here drawing parallels between protestantism/Luther and Ibn Taymiyyah enterprise. But there is a KEY difference between the two attempts at “Reformation”; whereas Luther wanted to make every Christian a priest itself (which is why he translated Bible in German), Ibn Taymiyyah wanted to go back to religion interpreted by prophets companions.
Thank you
Ibn taymiyyah said follow pure Islam,there is only one God who has created invented designed and can destroy us why you people ask to a grave or shrine he was exactly right, 90 percent of Indian Muslis ,98 percent of Bangladeshi Muslims,99 percent Malaysia and Indonesian Muslims follow him
@@mdi786 no they don't.
Most of Indian subcontinent follow their own revival movement (deobandi) which is a staunch enemy of the wahhabi and salafi movements. The deobandi scholars have called ibn tahmiyah a heretic.
@@vinlondon8904 it is the same thing thought in every mosque in India about Islam do not visit shrine for any favours it is biddat but you can present Salam to them , follow pure Islam as it was during the time of prophet Mohammed the teachings are same which are thought in subcontinent as thought by the Ibn taymiyyah
@@vinlondon8904 stop lying Ulama of Deoband respect Shaykh al islam ibn taymiyyah and say he is from ahlul sunnah. Check darul uloom deoband fatwa website.
Love Ibn Taymiyyah 💚
great and much needed video
Wow your pronunciation of Arabic words is amazing
16:57
It is not to ibn Taymiyyah that all forms of innovations are wrong rather it is sahih hadith in Sunan an Nasāi' which is as:
It was narrated that Jabir bin 'Abdullah(رضى الله عنه) said:
"In his Khutbah the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) used to praise Allah as He deserves to be praised, then he would say: 'Whomsoever Allah (سبحان وتعالى) guides, none can lead him astray, and whomsoever Allah sends astray, none can guide. The truest of word is the Book of Allah and best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad. The worst of things are those that are newly invented; every newly-invented thing is an *Innovation* and *every innovation* is going *astray* , and every going *astray is in the Fire* .'....."
Sunan an-Nasa'i, 1578
In-Book Reference: Book 19, Hadith 23
Well said
Hadith texts don't mean anything if you do not have a consistent, nuanced methodology to do istimbad of fiqh from it.
Do video on imam ahmed rida khan and his research on Science astronomy and deen stuff you will get brilliant concept about him
Agreed
british agent. next.
@@watcanib3161 lol. But seriously, ARK is a figure that is very interesting - a figure whose works are disconnected from those who claim to follow him
رحم الله شيخ الإسلام ابن تيميه🦅🇸🇾
How can you say that?
He poisoned Islam, and the logical fallacies he committed are very easily refuted.
Plus, thanks to him, ISIS and all the terrorists use his ideas and carry out his fatwas, and people were killed and women were raped by this man’s ignorance.
He is a plague to the Muslim uma, and for a man who claimed that we should adhere to the prophet’s way, he inspired the complete opposite of what our prophet taught us.
Wake up man!
Did anyone else get unsubscribed to this channel? I have around 300 subscriptions and this channel is like one of my top 5 favorites and never had I unsubscribed to it, yet I just had to subscribe again.
May ALLAH shower His Mercy upon Sheikh Al-Islam IBN TAYMIYYAH
Thanks for the great content. I will be really interested in an episode about ( Nahj Al-Balagha ) book. It's one of the most prominent and controversial books in the Islamic history. Imam Ali (Prophet Muhammad's son-in-law) explains how God 'Allah' does not need time, space, nor limbs. Very rich book.
Its not controversial at all!
I second this!
@@Shbaqar It is, it is Shia doctrine
So you’re a hadith rejector promoting Shiasm? Not surprised
@@Theshowoffcollector I mean, it is probable he is Shia
Excellent, absolutely informative - very well done , as expected . Is there a chain of theologians which exists till 19 - 20 th century .
I feel like there's going to be a lot of controversy surrounding this video no matter what you say 😂.
Haha I agree bro
Oh yes. Ibn Tamiya is a cursed pig
@@husshuss2652 ffs haha don't let a wobbler see this comment 😂
i feel u too Landon,look at your replies..(aside than me lol)
@@WanBerry yeah 😭🥴
He had a nice beard. thats the nicest thing I can think to say about him
Great explanation, your knowledge of Islam is very vast.
Absolutely fascinating topic, nearly every Muslim I know is Salafi so it's great to have a better grounding in their thought.
Nearly ever Muslim you know is Salafi? Where do you live?
Do you live in Britain? Lol
Placeholder Username is a great name for that comment.
@@mkwke215 Yes.
@@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts As an American Muslim, I do have to say that many of us here look at British Muslims like they're crazy.
Thank you for a great video. I do believe that many non Muslim scholars come to Ibn Taymiyyah with a tainted view because of biases against modern Islamic movements. Also a note that yusef al qardawi is still alive. The last quote indicated he died in 1926, that's probably his birth year. Thanks again for a great video.
ibn Taymiyya (rh) was awesome
He is a reckles man, see his wtiting its mesy
He was godfather of terrorists
Shaykh-ul-Islam
Shaykh-ul-bid'a
@@MultiAmmar2000 you must be Ashari🤣
@@MultiAmmar2000no way the ahlul bidah is saying that Ibn taymiyah is of bidah 😂
May Allah guide you. You’re intelligent.
Omg I was thinking about what salafi is this past week, been meaning to look it up.
You are yet to know what it means to be a Salafi. You should keep looking though.
17:25 Are you saying Ibn Taymiyya disagreed with the compilation of the Quran? You mentioned "to Ibn Taymiyya all forms [of innovation] are wrong" and then listed a few things that are regarded as generally positive innovations. If this is the case, where would we find the source of Ibn Taymiyya claiming bid'aa against the compilation of the Quran and other "positive innovations".
Salafism means who follows salaf, something a sahaba does is not considered as a bidah
“The rising is acknowledged, its modality is unknown, and asking about it is an innovation.” Imam Malik
Great video!! But there is something I never understood why no one mention it when talking about ibn taymiyyah that his philosophy is fundamentally an islamization of stoicism while taking none of their ethics the issue of corporealism and anthromorphism also the issue of تسلسل الحوادث (tasalsul alhawādith) and some of his critique of aristotelian logic comes from stoic philosophy it’s barely mentioned I understand the puritanical nature of his teaching and his followers would be discouraging to mention this aspect of his philosophy but why it’s barely even by people that aren’t his followers and some time his critics is beyond me
if you want to see islam you must go to the prophet and what he said , and what the quran said !
these philosophers came later and with their own thinking they changed islam to suit themselves !! there is no need for this in islam as the religion was completed with muhammad !! no need for no philosophy my friend !
May Allah ta "ala guide the mushabbiyah nd mujasimah or destroy them all
Stoicism in its time was highly influenced by Judaism in the first place. Many aspects of Stoicism is in line with Abrahamic tradition because of this. Taymiyyah's similarities with Stoicism does not mean he was influenced by them. Islam in its core have already many similarities and Taymiyyah tried to bring them out to the light.
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أخي في الله إن كان كلامك في الدين نفسه فليس تعليقي عن الدين من حيث هو دين الله وإن كان الأمر في ابن تيمية رحمه الله فليس هو بالدين حتى ترد علي بمثل هذا وإنما الكلام عن تأثر ابن تيمية بأصحاب المظلة فإما أن تنفي أو تثبت فإن جهلت فالصمت أولى وأكمل فرمي المقال في غير مقامه عبث لا يراد وإن كنت ممن يقول أن ابن تيمية لم يتفلسف أصلًا فلم تقرأ له حرفًا أو أنك من الدليلية وامثالهم فهداك الله من تلك الضلالة
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Do you have sources about the jewish influence in stoicism? because I’m interested to read more
If what ibn taymiyyah said only a general similarity that would be probable and you can say that about his critique on aristotelian logic to come from another greek or islamic philosophies but when ibn taymiyyah denies exnihilo creation and the hadith: (كان الله ولم يكن شيء معه) wich could be translated to: (god existed without anything existing with him) that because he did believe in تسلسل الحوادث I don’t know what is the English translation for it but the meaning of it is that god creat the world from already existing matter that comes from a previous world and the matter in the new world would the source of the future world that doesn’t exist now it’s basically the stoic cyclic creation if god wasn’t part of the cycle of course this isn’t the only aspect of stoic philosophy that influenced ibn taymiyyah but it’s one that is ignored while it was one the justifications of his enemies against him for denying a hadith and what they saw as a heretical amplication of these philosophical positions (mostly corporialism and anthropomorphism of god but also anothers)
Saw the whole video. Thank you!
Thank you for this video!
Ibn taymiyah was a teacher who defeated the mongols