Great video, Mike. GEVOs are neat locos, and have a nice bassy chug to them, but my heart will ALWAYS be with EMD. If I may make a correction, the ES44C4s are infact distinguishable from regular GEVOs by their trucks. The ES44DC/AC have two pneumatic cylinders on each truck, while the ES44C4s have four pneumatic cylinders on each truck. Best wishes, Buddy. Take care!
If anyone wants to get a break from gevos, come to Connecticut. The Connecticut Southern Railroad uses only SD40-2's, GP38-2's, and 1 GP40-2. Sometimes, a CSX GP40-2 would be seen trailing on 1 of the trains, but no gevos to be seen.
I've seen many trains roll through Flagstaff's Amtrak station in Arizona and about 95% of the locomotives I've seen them have were ES44AC/DC units, very nice to learn more about these. :)
Do you mean types of grade crossings (IE: wig wags, cross bucks, etc) plus a history on railroad crossings? That may be something I'll do in the future.
4:08 nice catch of 7 locos! 6:16 I've only seen 19 ET44s in person! Most were BNSF, but one was CSX, and two were GECX! 6:52 WOW! Nice catch of 7701! BNSF uses that number on many of their merchandise, and was one of the first ES44s for BNSF! You should do a video of the different version of the SD70!
The ET44AC unit designation is as follows: Evolution Technology-ET 4,400 horsepower-44 AC traction-AC As for BNSF’s “C4” configuration, the C is for 6 axles and the 4 is for 4 traction motors.
Great vid! Very informative. Regarding the GEVO C4, you mentioned that the only distinction from other GEVO models are the road numbers, however, C4s do have a center axle lifting mechanism visible on both sides of each truck.
It's something about the Gevo's the first time I heard one. It has that distinctive sound far different from its predecessors. That sound "BEAUTIFUL" Music to my ears.
Might be time to make some updates to your GEVO series soon, Mike. The ES44ACH and ET44ACH have been introduced in 2023 and there should be more newer types of models coming soon.
I can answer that. SDs have 6 axles and GPs have 4 axles and SD and GP are used only on the EMD GM units. GE never uses those two in there model number s. I hope this helps.
Aaron Long yes it does a little bit but I also meant how can you distinguish an SD model from another SD model that looks very similar and vice-versa for GPs
Hey Toby, I want to do a "spotter's guide" type video for EMD and GE locomotives. That will take a lot of research though, as there are many that are hard for me to distinguish too. I'm working on it, but not sure when it will be out.
Nice work as always Mike! Very informative topic and well covered. Well done, thanks for continuing your Train Talk series.I'm looking forward your future topics : ) - Balerio
Thanks Mike, that explains why I brought so many of these things for my BNSF. I don't even know what the number count is anymore. Between my ES44Ac, Dc and ET's I've given up. One day I'll do a inventory but I'm afraid of what my count is but with a fleet of over 80 locomotives I know for a fact that my Gevo has the biggest fleet. 😱😵😱 Somebody please pray for me. Thanks Mike, really love your videos and keep em coming.
I’m actually trying to remember all of these and spot physical differences between models. I did notice on some of the GEVO models a variation in the front end as well as the radiator towers. Are these front ends easily modified based on needs like a cattle guard?
excellent video,thoroughly enjoyed the video and also the explanation of various types of gevo engines ac or DC traction. can someone please explain something to me?on a six axle locomotive are all six traction motors powered or just four are powered and two not powered
As the EPA started strict standards for emissions to on/off road diesel engines starting in Y2K when they started at tier 1 when GE knew its AC4400CW and dash 9 locomotives won't meet the new standards as by the time the GEVO series was developed and put into production the EPA was mandating diesel engines to meet tier II standards as one difference to tell the difference between the earlier AC4400CW and dash 9 series and the GEVO was in the radiators as the larger radiator was for the cooling system as a smaller radiator was added for the inner cooler. By tier III interm and tier IV final many vehicles would have a separate tank for DEF.
Mike, as always, great talk video. I learns so much about this GEVOs locomotive that I read so often. Two questions: first: why the sound of the GE locomotive is so different than EMD Locomotives? Second: would you have a talk video about the EMD locomotives?
Thank you! GE locomotives sound different than EMD because they use different diesel motors. GE's have always had that "chugging" sound that they kind of took on ever since they bought out ALCO. The Alco name faded into history, but that chugging sound has not. Although, the newer tier 4 locomotives don't do it as much. And yes, at some point I will do the EMD SD70 series. I did the EMD F40PH passenger locomotive last year, but I will be doing more EMD and GE locomotives in the future.
Thanks for the information about GE's engines. I remembered the EMDF40PH episode, specially the all time running engine with METRA locomotives. I forgot to mention specific locomotives of EMD.
“Electro-Motive Diesel” is not a thing. EMD is the “Electro-Motive Division” of General Motors. That’s where the EMD comes from. That minor detail aside, this was a great and very informative video👍🏻
Electromotive Diesel is the current doing business as name for the company. They changed it when Progress Rail bought EMD from GM a few years ago. I do appreciate the comment though, thanks!
@@CoasterFan2105 fair point. Learn something new every day! It seems some people don’t seem to know that it was ever “division”, I didn’t know there was a change though. The rebranding makes sense. Keep up the very good research and informative content!
Great video, Mike. GEVOs are neat locos, and have a nice bassy chug to them, but my heart will ALWAYS be with EMD.
If I may make a correction, the ES44C4s are infact distinguishable from regular GEVOs by their trucks. The ES44DC/AC have two pneumatic cylinders on each truck, while the ES44C4s have four pneumatic cylinders on each truck.
Best wishes, Buddy. Take care!
I learn something new every day! Thanks for the correction! I'm going to pin this to the top so other people can see it too.
CoasterFan2105
TrainTrackTrav loo
AmtrakHan6903 SD70ACes lead all the time. And on UP, SD70Ms are nearly as common as GEVOs, but you aren't hating on them.
Wow! So cool! I never knew that! Thank you
If anyone wants to get a break from gevos, come to Connecticut. The Connecticut Southern Railroad uses only SD40-2's, GP38-2's, and 1 GP40-2. Sometimes, a CSX GP40-2 would be seen trailing on 1 of the trains, but no gevos to be seen.
Excellent! Taking the mystery out of those weird names!
Thanks for watching!
Hi
I've seen many trains roll through Flagstaff's Amtrak station in Arizona and about 95% of the locomotives I've seen them have were ES44AC/DC units, very nice to learn more about these. :)
GEVO’s are the kings of modern American railroad. I wonder if we’ll get newer t5 locomotives in the future? Keep up the good work GE.
Great video, I wish I watched this much earlier to learn more about trains
No way your here too! It’s me beanos!
Crafty what a surprise ‼️
Hello there
What in gods name are you doing here
Crafty!
Honestly people hate ET44C4s but in my opinion they are super badass including all the GEVOs
I think they hate the ETs cuz of the huge radiators
Do one on ac dc traction
The dash 9s had the controls under the window and es44ac/dc had the controls on the left side of the engieneer seat.
Please do a train talk on the legendary EMD and how they're competing against GE while coexisting at the same time.
I always love seeing these on freight trains it’s interesting to see 4 or 5 on one trading pulling tons of cars
Am retired now, but worked for G. E. for 39 years. Nice presentation...
This one was terrific.
Thanks Aaron!
Could you do an episode with the dash 8 and dash 9 locomotives
How about a train talk about level crossings?
Do you mean types of grade crossings (IE: wig wags, cross bucks, etc) plus a history on railroad crossings? That may be something I'll do in the future.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Coaster fan I can’t tell the difference between a p32acdm and a p42dc
CoasterFan2105 can u do wig wags
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4:08 nice catch of 7 locos!
6:16 I've only seen 19 ET44s in person! Most were BNSF, but one was CSX, and two were GECX!
6:52 WOW! Nice catch of 7701! BNSF uses that number on many of their merchandise, and was one of the first ES44s for BNSF!
You should do a video of the different version of the SD70!
Thanks, maybe I will!
@@CoasterFan2105 coaster fan is the et44ac and the es44ac still being made to this day in 2021?
The GEVO locos look like a dash-9
GEVOs are awesome! I like the sound of the horn of the Gevo locomotives! GEVOs are real cool!
The ET44AC unit designation is as follows:
Evolution Technology-ET
4,400 horsepower-44
AC traction-AC
As for BNSF’s “C4” configuration, the C is for 6 axles and the 4 is for 4 traction motors.
Great vid! Very informative. Regarding the GEVO C4, you mentioned that the only distinction from other GEVO models are the road numbers, however, C4s do have a center axle lifting mechanism visible on both sides of each truck.
ES44DC is my favorite.
Buffy Moravetz They sounds good idling!
TheBlueHero22 sounds better notch 8
They and the EMD-built SD70M-2’s are probably the last D.C. Traction freight diesels ever built.
@@g-manonthego6678 You are correct, the last of their kind.
Not to make a big fuss or anything, but why is it called a DC if it has a traction motor cabinet resembling an AC?
It's something about the Gevo's the first time I heard one. It has that distinctive sound far different from its predecessors. That sound
"BEAUTIFUL"
Music to my ears.
This has always been my favorite loco. Followed by the SD70
2:09 Great shot at Rochelle
and I have only seen a GEVO once. It was yesterday I saw it.
Amazing! Can you do a train talk on heritage units?
That seems to be a popular theme! I will certainly look into doing that. Perhaps once I've caught more of them haha!
Okay, cool! haha! I've barely caught one, it seems as all the good stuff is out when I am not.
Trains N' Stuff & West Coast Railfan Productions Same here
same here
You should do one with the most popular EMD series, I think it'd be a great video like this one
1:35 I like UP 5398 because of its very nice K5HL
Spent 30 years in Erie GE. Started when it was under Jack Welch. Sad to see Transportation being divested.
Yeah, it's a shame.
I have a few vids on my channel.@@CoasterFan2105
Might be time to make some updates to your GEVO series soon, Mike. The ES44ACH and ET44ACH have been introduced in 2023 and there should be more newer types of models coming soon.
I like these educational videos too (noob to the technical aspect of Rail fanning) thanks
Thanks, glad to hear it!
Very nice presentation of excellent information and very good photography.
Wow this is an awesome video! I learned so much about gevo's that I didn't know before watching this. Thank you!
It takes up to 3 days to make a GEVO
What about ES44AH's?
This episode is so interesting and amazing
Can you do a Train Talk about how to distinguish between different types of SD and/or GP model diesels.
I can answer that. SDs have 6 axles and GPs have 4 axles and SD and GP are used only on the EMD GM units. GE never uses those two in there model number s. I hope this helps.
Aaron Long yes it does a little bit but I also meant how can you distinguish an SD model from another SD model that looks very similar and vice-versa for GPs
the SD models size and design is one way to tell them apart.
Hey Toby, I want to do a "spotter's guide" type video for EMD and GE locomotives. That will take a lot of research though, as there are many that are hard for me to distinguish too. I'm working on it, but not sure when it will be out.
I see, ok
2:40 is a long train approaching
can you do an episode on EMD units
Will try!
ES44C4 can be identified by extra air pods on trucks used to lift center wheel. Easy to see.
3:44 nice Csx train
Nice work as always Mike! Very informative topic and well covered. Well done, thanks for continuing your Train Talk series.I'm looking forward your future topics : )
- Balerio
Thanks so much Balerio! More soon! :)
Why are they still using DC traction in the age of VFDs?
OUTSTANDING video. Absolutely outstanding!👏👏👏
I was an sd70ace fan ....................but these Gevo's are hoooootttt!
Really interesting video. Thank you for sharing it. Best regards from Switzerland 🇨🇭
Thanks Mike, that explains why I brought so many of these things for my BNSF. I don't even know what the number count is anymore. Between my ES44Ac, Dc and ET's I've given up. One day I'll do a inventory but I'm afraid of what my count is but with a fleet of over 80 locomotives I know for a fact that my Gevo has the biggest fleet.
😱😵😱
Somebody please pray for me.
Thanks Mike, really love your videos and keep em coming.
What?????
can u do one on emd engines?
I'll try to!
Can you make vid of clim?
From locomotives to big jet engines, GE rules the rails and the airways.
nice. how about a train talk video about modern passenger locomotives.
Thanks! There will probably be individual episodes on certain modern passenger locomotives. I have at least one planned already.
do a DDA40X
The shortline near me still uses steam era diesels, mostly SD units.
Sadly GE isn't doing so great and laying off workers in Ft Worth due to the massive amount of engines being stored:( Great Video!
That is unfortunate, I hadn't heard that. Thanks for the comment!
False. CN, BN, and UP have all been ordering new power from GE.
It's EMD that's in trouble, with nothing in the books or on the floor.
@@pkranz937 GE is in trouble. Their stock is falling. It's sad to see. EMD is taking a few orders of their new SD70ACe-T4
I actually learned quite alot, thank you so much!!
Nice explanation, thanks.
You're welcome, Charles. Thanks for the comment!
This was a great Train Talk episode!
Do a train talk on metra please.
Freight is going yay It was so huge
Yay. This is my favorite train ever
7:50 is that the UP coast route?
my favorite diesel
I subscribed to u!😊
I’m actually trying to remember all of these and spot physical differences between models. I did notice on some of the GEVO models a variation in the front end as well as the radiator towers. Are these front ends easily modified based on needs like a cattle guard?
Love the video Mike! Hey, can you do a video on F40PH's? I have lots of them in my town and was wondering about the history of them
Thanks! I did an episode on the F40PH last year! Check out the "Train Talk" play list on the main channel page to see all the past episodes!
excellent video,thoroughly enjoyed the video and also the explanation of various types of gevo engines ac or DC traction.
can someone please explain something to me?on a six axle locomotive are all six traction motors powered or just four are powered and two not powered
Can u do the sd70ace as a future episode
Thanks for putting these videos i am learning a lot of train facts and tips Mike 😌🚝🚆🚉
hi from England mike great vid and might I add extremely professional
Awesome video
Thanks, Andy!
As the EPA started strict standards for emissions to on/off road diesel engines starting in Y2K when they started at tier 1 when GE knew its AC4400CW and dash 9 locomotives won't meet the new standards as by the time the GEVO series was developed and put into production the EPA was mandating diesel engines to meet tier II standards as one difference to tell the difference between the earlier AC4400CW and dash 9 series and the GEVO was in the radiators as the larger radiator was for the cooling system as a smaller radiator was added for the inner cooler. By tier III interm and tier IV final many vehicles would have a separate tank for DEF.
Great Video Mike, very informative.
Do you have a video about EMD's ACe's too? I can't find it, thanks.
Not yet, but hope to eventually.
Long live the SD40-2
This video was made about my favorite engine and posted on my bday
Your video was perfect. I finally got an answer that I been looking for awhile.
Do emd sd70s
Alright!
Great video!
Thank you!
I learned so much thank u
Mike. Have you done any on the last steel built cabooses?
Mike, as always, great talk video. I learns so much about this GEVOs locomotive that I read so often.
Two questions:
first: why the sound of the GE locomotive is so different than EMD Locomotives?
Second: would you have a talk video about the EMD locomotives?
Thank you! GE locomotives sound different than EMD because they use different diesel motors. GE's have always had that "chugging" sound that they kind of took on ever since they bought out ALCO. The Alco name faded into history, but that chugging sound has not. Although, the newer tier 4 locomotives don't do it as much. And yes, at some point I will do the EMD SD70 series. I did the EMD F40PH passenger locomotive last year, but I will be doing more EMD and GE locomotives in the future.
Thanks for the information about GE's engines.
I remembered the EMDF40PH episode, specially the all time running engine with METRA locomotives.
I forgot to mention specific locomotives of EMD.
So in combination with the ES44AC, C4, T4, BNSF has over 2000 of these?
Can you do one on heritge units
I'll see what I can do!
question about loco emission standards
if EMD was to make a new loco what is the minimum tier it has to comply to?
Tier 4
Tier 4, just as the person above said before. EMD now has a Tier 4 freight locomotive, the SD70ACe-T4 and production is in full swing.
Will you make a train talk video on train bells?
Great video.
Ahhh the “GEVO” the sd40-2 of the high tech era !
“Electro-Motive Diesel” is not a thing. EMD is the “Electro-Motive Division” of General Motors. That’s where the EMD comes from. That minor detail aside, this was a great and very informative video👍🏻
Electromotive Diesel is the current doing business as name for the company. They changed it when Progress Rail bought EMD from GM a few years ago. I do appreciate the comment though, thanks!
@@CoasterFan2105 fair point. Learn something new every day! It seems some people don’t seem to know that it was ever “division”, I didn’t know there was a change though. The rebranding makes sense. Keep up the very good research and informative content!
Great video and explication about locomotives Ge es44ac American.
Hug.
Rochester in Brazil.
You should do an episode on the different types of steam locomotives.
Thanks for this... Well done
Can you do an episode on types of railroad crossings and high speeds trains. Also, what's your next episode?
Awesome Video Mike
I have a question: Is there a toilet on locomotives for the engineer during long trips?
Yes, most locomotives have one.
Very nicely done sir!
do the DDA40X
EXCELLENT !
Nice video, I learned a lot! It would be really nice to see one on their rival, the SD70 series
Awesome video! Great information!
Can you please do a video on what CF7 locomotive is? and also can you do a video on what a B23-7 is please?
Where is the raw footage of the shot at 1:35 at on your channel?
Ermoso video del tren costeando el Mar .
Cool train talk video