Sharon Tate: Murder on Cielo Drive
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- Опубліковано 11 лют 2021
- On the night of August 8, 1969, Tex Watson took Susan Atkins, Linda Kasabian, and Patricia Krenwinkel to "that house where Melcher used to live", as Manson had instructed him, to "totally destroy" everyone in it, and to do it "as gruesome as you can". The occupants of the house at 10050 Cielo Drive that evening were movie actress Sharon Tate, who was 8½ months pregnant and the wife of film director Roman Polanski; her friend and former lover Jay Sebring, a noted hairstylist; Polanski's friend and aspiring screenwriter Wojciech Frykowski; and Frykowski's girlfriend Abigail Folger, heiress to the Folgers coffee fortune and daughter of Peter Folger. This specific house was chosen because both Watson and Manson had been there on several occasions, and Watson was familiar with the layout.
The murder team arrived at Cielo Drive just past midnight on August 9, 1969. Watson climbed a telephone pole near the entrance gate and cut the phone line to the house. The murderers backed their car to the bottom of the hill that led to the estate and walked back up to the house. They thought that the gate might be electrified or equipped with an alarm, so they climbed an embankment to the right of the gate and entered the grounds. Headlights approached them from within the angled property, and Watson ordered the women to lie in the bushes. He stepped out and ordered the approaching driver to halt. Steven Parent had been visiting the property's caretaker William Garretson, who lived in the guest house. Watson leveled a .22-caliber revolver at Parent, and the frightened youth begged him not to hurt him, claiming that he would not say anything. Watson lunged at Parent with a knife, giving him a defensive slash wound on the palm of his hand that severed tendons and tore the boy's watch off his wrist, then he shot him four times in the chest and abdomen, killing him. Watson ordered the women to help push the car farther up the driveway. Watson next cut the screen of a window, then told Kasabian to keep watch down by the gate; she walked over to Parent's car and waited. Watson removed the screen, entered through the window, and let Atkins and Krenwinkel in through the front door. He whispered to Atkins and awoke Frykowski who was sleeping on the living room couch. Watson kicked him in the head, and Frykowski asked him who he was and what he was doing there. Watson replied, "I'm the devil, and I'm here to do the devil's business." On Watson's direction, Atkins found the house's three other occupants with Krenwinkel's help and forced them to the living room. Watson began to tie Tate and Sebring together by their necks with rope which he had brought, and he slung it over one of the living room's ceiling beams. Sebring protested the murderers' rough treatment of the pregnant Tate, so Watson shot him. Folger was taken momentarily back to her bedroom for her purse, and she gave the murderers $70. Watson then stabbed Sebring seven times. Frykowski's hands had been bound with a towel, but he freed himself and began struggling with Atkins, who stabbed at his legs with a knife. He fought his way out the front door and onto the porch, but Watson caught up with him, struck him over the head with the gun multiple times, stabbed him repeatedly, and shot him twice. Kasabian had heard "horrifying sounds" and moved toward the house from her position in the driveway. She told Atkins that someone was coming in an attempt to stop the murders. Inside the house, Folger escaped from Krenwinkel and fled out a bedroom door to the pool area. Krenwinkel pursued her and caught her on the front lawn where she stabbed her and tackled her to the ground. Watson then helped finish her off; her assailants stabbed her a total of 28 times. Frykowski struggled across the lawn, but Watson murdered him with a final flurry of stabbing. Frykowski suffered 51 stab wounds, and had also been struck 13 times in the head with the butt of Watson’s gun, which bent the barrel and broke off one side of the gun grip, which was recovered at the scene. In the house, Tate pleaded to be allowed to live long enough to give birth, and offered herself as a hostage in an attempt to save the life of her unborn child, but both Atkins and Watson stabbed Tate 16 times, killing her. Manson had told the women to "leave a sign-something witchy", so Atkins wrote "pig" on the front door in Tate's blood.
Roman told Sharon before they even married that he would never be faithful to her and don't expect that to ever change.
Tex Watson should never be released. He was evil with or without Manson’s influence. 🏄♂️
Tex Watson is the worst one imo please sign the petition to keep them in jail no parole for all them
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yes what he did was in the past but God gives us all second chances were not all perfect but He loves us and tex is now a born again believer in Jesus Christ a changed transform man!!! that was his past
@debbieflores808 screw his forgiveness not what he did and others but not for one multiple murders and you expect me to forgive him or others then your a deluded fool.🤦♂️😡😡😡😡 you can stick your forgiveness up your Khyber pass lady 😡😡😡😡😡
Tex lives in prison like a king . Had 4 wives and all kinds of perks for doing the dirty work for the CIA
They're all the worst ones. Every single Mansonite and killer.
I'm reading the book now. Thank you for recommending it!! Great channel as well!!
Frykowski survived the concentration camps in Poland. The guy was a tough bastard. Call him a druggie all you want but drugs don’t ruin everyone. He deserves respect for the way he fought for his life and his will to survive.
He definitely went out like a soldier. You're correct drugs don't "ruin everyone" but the fact that him and Jay Sebring were loaded and raped a man (this is on public record at the LAPD) definitely says a lot about the Frykowski's character. It seems that the "innocent victims" were not so innocent. In addition, to the drugs there was a lot of Satanism and black magic at the house on Cielo Drive. Thanks for tuning in and leaving a comment. We appreciate the support.
Frykowski get always portrayed as the bad boy. Only because of using drugs which wasn’t a big deal back in the 60s at all nor is it today!
@@vapalaca Frykowski and Sebring were both guilty of deplorable actions. His drug use has absolutely nothing to do with it. Thanks for tuning in and leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe. We appreciate the support.
Kush And Chemtrails did you try them in court? How do you know what they were guilty of? In this country you are innocent until proven guilty so unless you are willing to prove them and you have no skeletons in your closet so some respect to those that fought for their lives.
@@mathewmcdonald3657 This channel is full of crap they’re making up stories as they go …. Disrespectful! They are trying to get ratings with lies!
Jay Sebring also had wires cut at his place also.
his lawyers son installed cable tv and jay called him and told him its not working
the lawyers son found the cut wires
tells me drug burn
True indeed.
Sharon was pregnant with a boy & she had named the baby Paul Richard Polanski. Her mother has stated that Sharon & her baby, Paul were buried together.
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To me tragedy is a car crash or natural disaster it is not the apt word for what this was which was evil and intended
Ya know it makes sense that things happened that we never knew about the story. Roman was truly a jerk. Even today he's still the same way. But deep down I think he did love Sharon and felt guilty for many things after she was killed. Karma played a part in that.
He's a monster. Anyone who does what he did in 1977, has no soul and absolutely no ability to love anyone other than themselves. Thank you for tuning in and leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe. We appreciate the support.
@@kushandchemtrails exactlyyyy!
Yea I agree he’s a piece of shit but I do think he loved her
He had ulterior motives. And he sacrificed her to elevate his career.
Bartek Frykowski, the son of Voytek, was found stabbed to death in a mansion in Poland 1999. He is buried in Lodz. Something so weird happened in the summer of 1969 that still has ramifications. It's like some evil genie was released and maybe requires exorcism. It was the sixties, and some people were playing around with ouija boards. They are not toys and should be avoided at all costs
Another eerie fact is that Rosemary Leno's granddaughter was violently stabbed to death last year. Thanks for tuning in and leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe to our Patreon for full episodes and bonus content. We appreciate the support.
@@kushandchemtrails best wishes from Ireland
@@raygreen5926 Fantastic. Ireland is a beautiful country.
I had read that the grandaughter of the Labianca's was stabbed to death a few years ago.
@@jacquelinedixon6438 Unfortunately that's true. Thanks for tuning in and leaving a comment. For full episodes and bonus content subscribe patreon.com/kushandchemtrails. We appreciate the support.
Still haunts after all these years
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Damn what a crazy decade in our history. What a time to live, the 60s were insane.
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And as today we still feeling the affects of that decade 🤦♂️😳🫣
Sharon and Jay were friends. Sharon was not like that. She was one of the few in Hollywood who didn't sleep with everyone. Jay was also close to her family. He had taught Doris Tate, Sharon's mom how to cut hair. Sharon ended their relationship for Roman. Jay always wanted Sharon back.Roman was never jealous of Jay he never considered Jay a threat to him. So stop saying crap without doing your homework. Sharon was very much in love with Roman. She was actually wanting to leave Hollywood and be a mom and focus on her family. She was starting to see Roman for what he was. She was thinking about leaving him of he didn't change which he wasn't. Sharon was not a cheater. Sharon's dad was very much in the service.if you actually do your homework you would know Charles Manson was part of something else. The gov tested lsd on a lot of people and his clan was no different. Charles Manson's ties go deeper then just trying to get into Hollywood. In the end no one liked him. He was dirty , his girls were and no one wanted that to be in anything representing Hollywood at the time. A lot of those girls were educated and he turned them all in to murderers. It's crazy how far people can go when their emotions and childhood trauma and adult trauma are pretend on. In the end they chose to continue to be a part of it and murder.
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@@kushandchemtrails I've been reading up on this since 1994
@@trishbaum6364 Tom's interviewed the killers, the entire Laurel Canyon music and acting scene, family members, police officers, parole officers, judges, county clerks, the kid who was in the guest house when the murders took place and even Captain Creepo himself, Roman Polanski. I can safely say that he has more knowledge on the subject than any of us. Thanks again for tuning in and leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe. We appreciate the support.
tom's book is awesome......required reading. . fascinating that sharon was gonna leave roman and go bak to jay, then she was murdered....never knew that till recently
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@@kushandchemtrails What is the name of the book, it sounds good. I have never heard some of what he says and I read many things and Docs on Sharon. So sad.
@@Badfingerbabe777 Here's the link www.amazon.com/Chaos-Charles-Manson-History-Sixties/dp/0316477559 Thanks for tuning in and leaving a comment. For full episodes and bonus content subscribe at patreon.com/kushandchemtrails. We appreciate the support.
Yes that’s even mentioned at the end of the “cutting to the truth” film about Jay Sebring. At the very end of the film. Sharon had begun readying legally for a divorce.
@@angelwings7930 Great info. We gotta check that film out. Thanks for tuning in and leaving a comment. For full episodes and bonus content subscribe patreon.com/kushandchemtrails. We appreciate the support.
Great interview, love your channel!
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Respect
Jay Sebring was known as "The Candyman" because he always had copious amounts of drugs available for sale & free at parties. He maintained a playboy lifestyle with Hollywood personalities & his closet pal was Warren Beatty.
He definitely partied and found his way into some dark situations. Thanks for tuning in and leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe. We appreciate the support.
@NE POWERS She was definitely caught up.
Amazing account on more of what might have happened. You guys were so respectful and informed.
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Great interview! The hosts are cool guys and good listeners who didn't interrupt Tom. I enjoyed reading CHAOS and look forward to the sequel.
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Sharon's baby was a boy...so this woman couldn't possibly be Sharon's daughter.
This angle into the case blew our minds. We agree that it is highly improbable, but imagine the implications if her story was in fact true. Yikes. Thanks again for tuning in. We appreciate it.
Paul Richard tate yes a boy
“Rosie Tate Polanski” was just a crank and a kook and is old news to anyone who really knows the history of the case. Tom O’Neill knows this. He’s just trying to entertain the audience so they’ll buy his book.
Thank you for your Great Channel!! I will try to find the O’Neill Book on Sharon Tate Murder.
This is a bunch of falsehoods!!
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Parlor game anyway. Folklore at this point. So, school us, Vinny Buggybaloney.
Patricia Krenwinkle was killed outside Garret's window?,. Wow guys! That ain't right!
It was a 3 hour interview and Tom misspoke. He clearly says at least a dozen times who the perpetrators and victims are. Also, none of the victims the night of the murders were named "Garret", the victim's name was Steve Parent. Thanks for tuning in and leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe. We appreciate the support.
@@lenardneedham3444 Episode 23 on our channel brother. Tom O'Neill covers the case in great detail. Thanks for tuning in and leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe. We appreciate the support.
What? no Krenwinkel tried the door to the guesthouse occupied by William Garretson, the door wouldn't open, so Garretson didn't get killed.
@@kushandchemtrails that's right I read about Steve parent yep,he was just talking a radio to the guy in the other house. On the property an is believed to be the first one murderd. 🖤
@@shauntaylor6040 really so many stories, I never heard this eithet.
Great interview guys! after watching Roman Polanski's movie Repulsion along with Rosemary's Baby and the Tenant, the murders almost mirror his films, granted Tenant was a later production, but he does some creepy stuff in that film as well, the Cielo Dr. murders were like a Polanski production, the main victim (Sharon Tate) was in a nightgown, just like the main characters of his films were always seen wearing, and the murders took place in the home, just like in his movies, that's where everything takes place, those three films are referred to as "The Apartment Trilogy"
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@@kushandchemtrails does the guy you mention have utube videos too.
@@tammybrown4901 His name is Tom O'Neil. He wrote a book called Chaos, about the murders.
Sharon didn’t have a night gown on she had a bra and panties on look at the crime scene photos u can clearly see what she was wearing . Abigail Folger was wearing a night gown
Jay was trying to protect Sharon!
Indeed he was. He loved her.
I would have died - protecting Sharon. I fell in❤ the first time I saw her! I learned in the Army (Paratrooper) how vulnerable we are when asleep - that's why there was guard duty. At night, I lock my bedroom door and have my Paratrooper knife (Rambo style) on the floor -- under my bed. I can't wait for a real TIME MACHINE to come out: I'd go back to early 8/8/69 and hide and wait outside 10050 Ceilo Dr. and take out "Tex" Watson first -- then the rest of the drugged, demon-possessed, would-be killers. Sharon would love me for being her guardian angel😇, so to speak -- and live to a ripe old age. 😉
@@garygoudy3708 Very cool!
Jay and Roman became fast friends. Speaks to the quality of Jay's character. Debra Tate, her sister who was very close, says any speculation on their relationship is bunk.
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Her sister was basically a child and idk abt you but I didn’t tell my child sister all about my personal/sex life
If that’s the case with Sebrings house ( cut wire ), Then the narrative about Manson just picking that house is bs
Polansky knows a lot more than he's saying!!!...The man is truly a monster!
The Academy barely revoked his membership. Shows you how low their moral standards truly are.
Sharon and Jay were only together from November 64 to December 65, not 3 years!
lncorrect. Sharon Tate and Jay Sebring dated from November 1964 until she met Roman Polanski in 1967. That is a fact. If you have evidence that refutes this information, I'd love to see it. Thanks for tuning in and leaving a comment. We appreciate it.
@Sam M You are indeed correct Sam. Sharon Tate and Jay Sebring were together 3 years. Thank you for tuning in and leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe. We appreciate the support.
Great video and I've given it a like an subscribed. I grew up with an uncle (passed away several years ago) who got me into a lot of so called conspiracy stories that have turned out to be true. So as I've gotten older I've gotten more into doing research myself. There's just far too many strange links between the Manson Family killings and a lot of weird creepy stuff.
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There was nothing cut out of Sharon's womb. She was carrying a boy. The Rosemary's baby thing is complete horseshit, all the rest of it, however, is quite fascinating. I've been reading up on this stuff for the last 25 years. I have all the books. I've read them all, and I have Tom's book as well. Chaos The Truth Behind The Manson Murders. When Watson and the rest of them were coming through the gate as Parent was leaving, And we all know he was shot four times, I can't believe Jay, Abigail, Sharon, or Wojciech didn't hear the shots or Garretson hearing the desperate screams when they were all being murdered. In Bugliosi's book they had said when the police found Garretson in the gatehouse they noticed that his stereo speakers volume was up pretty high. Great stuff. Loved listening to this.
The fact that Roman directed "Rosemary's Baby" and they killed his baby the night before killing a woman named Rosemary definitely has occult symbology. That appears to have had some meaning to someone within that group. As far as the "baby cut from the womb", Tom was merely speaking on a woman he met that claimed to be that baby. Thank you for tuning in and leaving a comment. We're glad you enjoyed the content. Be sure to subscribe. We appreciate the support.
A 22 might not be that loud or they might have thought it was backfire or fireworks like William Garretson did! William Garretson heard Abigail Folger being brutally murdered! He was scared shitless and laying quiet in the guest cottage so he wouldn't be slaughtered also! He stated that decades later.
@@nelle5686 Interesting. Thanks for tuning in and leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe. We appreciate the support.
Yeah here in Australia we heard things to effect of what you said was incorrect...And fifty years later I still can't grasp even on drugs how anyone could do it..,EXCEPT TO PEDOPHILES
So tragic that such wonderfull beautifull actress Sharon and all the others were murdered in such a gruesome unnecessary way.
Roman was a cold hearted person... maybe due to his experiences during WW2. He didn't want kids and thought she basically let herself go when she was pregnant. He also never stopped cheating on her.....
Just one problem with your bs theory: Not one of the murderers say they knew any of the people in the Tate house.
There's police affidavits that show the string of celebrities who were in regular contact with the Manson family. Dennis Hopper, Jack Nicholson, Mama Cass, Neil Young, Frank Zappa, etc. We implore you to visit the Chaos Charles Manson Instagram page. Tom has compiled all the affidavits, prison reports, probation reports, police reports, court documents, CIA files, FBI files, photos, audio and video files, etc. that he has come across in his 22 years of research. Thanks for tuning in and leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe. We appreciate the support.
@@kushandchemtrails And the conclusion of all of this supposed evidence would be what exactly? That the Manson murders were some kind of black op? Beyond Dennis Wilson and Terry Melcher, I don't necessarily doubt that Manson and his bunch had a wider range of celebrity contacts than we've been told. So what? What would that prove? Other than Manson being clever enough to weasel his way into the wider celebrity culture of LA... not much.
@@brucemacmillan7128 The conclusion is up to the viewer to decide. However, your original statement was "Not one of the murderers say they knew any of the people in the Tate house.", and our response clearly proves that the murderers did, in fact, know their victims.
@@kushandchemtrails And what is your supposed proof that they knew their victims? Did they know the LaBiancas also? No, they didn't. Anyway, even if they did know everyone at the Tate house, WHAT WOULD THAT PROVE? You haven't explained that. Not that I'd expect any kind of explanation that would be credible from a couple of clowns who believe in Chemtrail bs.
@@HerculePoirot222 Yes, I know the house next door to the LaBiancas was a party house where Manson had previously attended some sort of gathering. So there's probably some truth to what you say. But it doesn't mean Manson actually knew the LaBiancas.
Great channel name 🤘
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The 1976 2 part tv movie of Helter Skelter was very good. The actors playing the killers did awesome jobs. Very creepy.
@@markcameron3601 They did play the part well. Creepy indeed. Thanks for tuning in and leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe. We appreciate the support.
Jay seabring had packages of drugs at his house and did all the dealing from cielo drive. Cielo drive was the place to go for drugs according to a lot of people.
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When he says non of the houses were air conditioned, i heard that Sharon asked the maid to stay over on the night of the murders because it was really hot and the maid had no air con in her apartment and sharon did but she refused anyways. Hmmm.
You're mistaken. Tom said that the GUESTHOUSE had no air conditioning and he wondered how the tenant didn't hear the screams from the main house when he assumed his windows were open because of the heat. Thanks for leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe. We appreciate the support.
@@kushandchemtrails 17.10 he says we didnt have any aircon in either house means non in both right?
It was probably slightly cooler at Sharon‘s house, because it was up in the hills, away from the hotter city conditions.
@Kush And Chemtrails : I wonder why Sharon & crew didn't take the hint to GET THE FUCK OUTTA THERE when their electricity and phones were cut. My response would have got everyone in the car, hit the gas, and smash through the gate even if it wouldn't open, and go to the nearest phone. If your neighbor's lights are on, it's not just a power outage.
Especially given the fact that it happened two nights in a row at different addresses. The first night (the day before the murders), the four victims were at Jay Sebring's house and his wires were cut as well. However, his back-up security system was equipped with massive flood lights that scared the would be attackers.
@@kushandchemtrails Too bad we can't send a Terminator back in time to save these people.
@@JoesVinylShow1980 Where's Sara Connor when you need her?
@@kushandchemtrails those people fucked up so bad by crossing drug dealers that even a 1-1,000 couldn't save them!
All of the victims in the Tate house had no idea that their phone line was cut , they only cut the phone line .
I always thought there were individuals who knew more, or were involved in, this crime. I too, suspected Polanski. It was hearsay that he had told Sharon to have an abortion, but she refused. Their relationship was not a good one. Polanski had his hands dirty in alot of stuff. I speculated also, that he didn't like Sebring, and the fact that he was there with his pregnant wife, staying in the house, may have infuriated him. I also believed Garretson knew more than he told. He told detectives he had his music playing loud. How odd that 3/4 mile away, a man heard the screams of a man begging "no...please God, no"...This was in a location with rolling hills and trees. Sounds may be altered, but the guy definitely heard something.
There is so much strange and questionable content of this crime, and how it came about. Heck, I even thought once that Satanism may have been a catalyst, with Roman making horror movies like Rosemary's baby and others. Remember Manson said to leave something "witchy." Watson said he was "the devil here to do the devil's business." Don't know, that may be way out there, but I'm convinced of manipulation coming full circle in the whole of the story. To me, Polanski looked somewhat suspiciously too distraught when he stepped out the car back on American soil.
In all, we may never know the whole truth, as evidence has been mishandled or hidden for reasons we know nothing of. I really want to read the book! Great show.
He wasn’t staying there get your silly facts right
@@hardsam68 I meant for that night. Mr. Perfect.
The book is fantastic. We have the full interview on our channel as well and we actually put forth the theory that the murders weren't random and, in fact, were ritualistic. Polanski directed "Rosemary's Baby" which was about the devil's child. They murdered Polanski's wife who was pregnant. That obviously is the BABY part of the ritual. The following evening they kill a woman named ROSEMARY. And there you have it... ROSEMARY'S BABY. Thanks for tuning in and leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe. We appreciate the support.
@@kushandchemtrails what if her name had been Regan
Sharon Tate wasn't the 1st actress to become romantically involved with someone to further her career, I also think actresses who really wanted to have a real career as an actor got married to have protection from the casting couch (Monroe/Demaggio) This doesn't make her a bad person or sully her reputation. She obviously realized she made a mistake with Roman. I do think Sebring was going to step up and do whatever Sharon needed him to do out of love and true friendship. Too bad we will never know what happened that night or why.
As for Sebring’s home, it once was Jean Harlow’s home and her husband Paul Bern committed suicide by shooting himself in the dressing room in the Master bedroom.
Actually it was another woman that killed him. The studio made it look like it was a suicide.
Who eas Terry "obsessed" with? Is there a beginning of this interview?
It's missing here.
I never once heard that or read that anywhere about the divorce papers. And I've read and watched everything on the manson case. I even talked to Deborah tate on twitter, and she nor Sharon's mother or anyone affiliated with her and roman ever mentioned that. She was hally to start a family. She even admitted to knowing about Roman's affairs, but brushed it aside.
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Exactly sharon said all I want is to have, a home an a family
@@tammybrown4901 That may have been what she wanted, but it's not what she received. Polanski was and is a perverted degenerate who abused his wife and many others. Thanks for tuning in and leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe. We appreciate the support.
It is mentioned in the documentary about Jay Sebring The Cutting Edge.
@@kushandchemtrails thanks I will
This is full of lies and mistruths
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Of course, right..so, you did research he did? Or were there..??
@@kushandchemtrails I actually know the Tate family and have heard from them what is real and what isn't. Much of what presented here is more gossip, Nothing is factual.
@@tomzulawski9094 Perhaps you don't know them as well as you think. We've seen the official documents. In fact, all of Tom O'Neill's information, including the documents and tape recordings of the interviews, can be seen on the Charles Manson Chaos Instagram page. I implore you to visit the page yourself. Thank you for tuning in and leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe. We appreciate the support
@@kushandchemtrails The claim of a videotape of Sharon being forced to have sex with two men can't be verified. Much of what is discussed in this interview can't be verified. Sorry, I still don't believe it.
I need the full thing 😁😁
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Read the court transcripts. Roman was the clean up crew after people ran a train on Sharon .
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I thought it was her father and someone else that cleaned it, then Altobelli sent them a cleaning and rent bill, then sued for $400k, in which he was able to collect maybe a third of. Altobelli moved back into the house and stayed for like ten yrs.
There's are pictures of Roman sitting at the door after the murders, then there's a picture of a man sitting on the edge of the couch looking away. Another of ppl think that's also Roman, but it's Peter Hurkos, a clairvoyant that Roman hired to come and look at the house to maybe help solve the murder. Hurkos had helped in the Boston slayings. I doubt if Roman had anything to do with it. The wires being cut at Jay's house could've been that Manson bunch going there if they had gotten hold of Jay's wallet and found his address, went there to see if anyone was there. All speculation.
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Ive always wondered if Sharon's baby was really Jay's? And gee, that's weird...my dad was all into electronics and the latest technology in the 60s and cable TV was completely unheard of. I never heard that term until the late 70s.
It very well could have been Jay's baby and we were amazed with cable TV in the 60's as well. Thanks for tuning in and leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe. We appreciate the support.
TFS! I was just a baby when this happened. However, very tragic yet fascinating hearing different things. God rest their Souls ! PS/Well done !!!
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I just want the truth yes, many to many out landish stories
No its messed up in alot of ways I want the truth
My question is, someone had to have seen something or heard something on that night, they maybe didn't want to get involved or just didn't care. 5 people were murdered in that House , I'm just wondering why. 2 more people were murdered the next night and the same females who did the killing the night before couldn't wait to do it again,Any Human Being would say," I'm outta here, I am not doing this" 6 people were murdered in just 2 nights,it was 1969,things like that shouldn't have been happening.
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Charlie’s ex wife’s name was Rose
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My question is why did Manson have everyone at 10050 Cielo Dr. Murdered?
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Me Too!!💨💨💨💨😐
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Tom goes a little left when involving CIA... otherwise he,s alright. It was a good read.
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nice to find your channel!! very interesting rabbit hole this... just ignore the rude
comments, ive found since ive been exploring this topic since the 1970s theres
always a troll nearby to disparage all questions to the official version.... just like today and other cases that are no no to question... thanks for doing it anyways!!
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So... I guess all the Manson family people who admitted to the murders are lying?
@@brucemacmillan7128 I never said that, did I? who are you?
@@SekhmetSecretWeapon So then...what DO you believe to be the real story? (Btw, it doesn't matter who I am any more than it matters who you are.)
@@brucemacmillan7128 I have no idea.... ive gone through 3 different theories in my head since 1976... im no one special, just an armchair detective like many others on here... like my grandmother who read 'true crime' .... idk why...why does that matter to you, who are you, lol?? btw, ill never explain my theories on this further because I can barely give complements on here without people freaking out, so....
It was a 22,that's why it was hard to hear!
While it is definitely possible the gunshot was inaudible at that distance, we still find it interesting as to how one of the victims was murdered near the guesthouse. It's our understanding there was a heatwave in the city and the working theory is that the windows of the guesthouse must have been open since there was no air conditioner. However, this is all conjecture as the facts of that evening remain unknown. Thanks for tuning in and leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe. We appreciate the support.
Stumbled upon this.... wow. Gotta read your book.. Roman P. Always get bad vibes from him.....
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Who is the man in the podcast? I'd like to read his book
Tom O’Neill. The book is called Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the 60’s.
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Did he just say Patricia was killed right in front of his house
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Roman horrible man
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Damn straight
Aren't divorce papers a matter of public record
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The majority of the evidence points to Buglosi. The killers even pointed to Helter Skelter . This is alot of conjecture and here say , if this was had any merit it would have been made clear. I believe that Vincent Buglosi wouldn't take that stretch because I believe he was a honorable man not perfect but honorable.
What exactly "is a lot of hearsay and conjecture"? You'll have to be more specific than that. We implore you to research the signed affidavits, audio interviews and other information acquired by Tom O'Neill over the past 22 years through the Freedom of Information Act. All of these items, as well as rare pictures and videos, can be seen on the Charles Manson Chaos Instagram Page. The evidence is irrefutable. Thank you for tuning in and leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe. We appreciate the support.
He was comprised. He stalked and lied about his milkman or something, possibly under oath. I believe that’s why he got the case. Control.
@@mathewmcdonald3657 Compromised indeed. Had Tom O'Neill unearthed this evidence during the trial, the Manson Famiy would've been set free and the CIA would've had a field day explaining why they drugged young men and women and had them commit murder all as part of a demented experiment.
his own wife described him as mentally ill.
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Forgive my ignorance, what is the name of the book he wrote?
Chaos
The book starts off good but then goes into CIA stuff and I stopped reading it after that. CIA FBI mind control BS had nothing to do with it.
All this sounds like one big movie just to keep the truth hid 🤷
Not what y'all are talking about but the story we was told by media
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I read the book, and really there was nothing in it!
You should request a refund lol thx for stopping by
did u see the divorce papers ? because debra tate said its a lie.
and polanski stayed in switzland during 8 months not 2 months.
concerning what happened at jay's house, did u see the police report ?
We have not seen the divorce papers and we say as much in the interview. We're not quite sure what you're speaking of with regard to Polanski and Switzerland. As far as "what happened at Jay's house", we assume you're speaking of the incident the night before the murders. Yes, we have seen the police report and we've also heard the interview with the eyewitness who gave the police report. All of the signed affidavits, police reports, audio interviews and other reports gathered by Tom O'Neill over the past 22 years through the Freedom of Information Act are available at the Charles Manson Chaos Instagram page. Thanks you for tuning in and leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe. We appreciate the support.
And the headlines read. 4 killed. The number 4 is a special code number for a sacrifice.
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@@kushandchemtrails no I don’t need to expand. It means what it means. And I personally was not even alive at the time. But California was Mexico at one time. Good night 🌙💤
Aztec, self name Culhua-Mexica, Nahuatl-speaking people who in the 15th and early 16th centuries ruled a large empire in what is now central and southern Mexico. The Aztecs are so called from Aztlán (“White Land”), an allusion to their origins, probably in northern Mexico.
Wow
WOW.WOW.WOW. What this needs is more ghetto slang, bruh. O'neill is obviously starstruck and confused. I'll be chucking my copy of CHAOS into the trash. DAMMNNN!
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It was Sharon's foot that was stood on, accidents happen, the rudeness of the owner of ciello drive & others prob caused the choice of who was to be killed.
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It was jay sebring child she was having
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Makes Sharon look bad how dare these people on here try and stain her and the others yeh bro
@@hardsam68 Sharon was involved with shady characters. FACT. Her husband is wanted on American soil for the sexual assault of a child to this day. FACT. He also put Sharon in compromising positions with other men and video taped it. FACT. In addition, it appears she was in love with her former boyfriend and was pregnant with his child. OPINION. We have no desire to "stain" Sharon Tate's reputation. Tom O'Neill has devoted 22 years of his life researching the Manson Family and these murders. He has police affidavits, court documents, CIA documents, FBI documents, videos, pictures, etc. that verify the details in his book. We are speaking on his findings. PERIOD. Thank you for tuning in and leaving a comment. Be sure to subcribe. We appreciate the support.
@@kushandchemtrails yes!!! you are who you hang out with!
@@Jesuslovesmethisiknow712I wish that they all would've been more careful....but it was the swinging sixties. Still....so sad.
Why are you laughing? Just asking
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Boy what a load of hooey
Always thought it was telling that Jay was hanging out w/pregnant Sharon in his underwear days before the murders. Is that just me?
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He was not in his underwear. He was wearing bold pinstripe slacks/pants as I recall.
@@susanfalconedaquino3623 Read the comment again, "the days before the murders." You're speaking of what Jay was wearing the night of the murders. Thanks again for leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe.
@@susanfalconedaquino3623 I wasn’t referring to the night of the murders. There have been many photos of Sharon circulating on UA-cam channels that were taken the days BEFORE the murders at the Ceilo property in the yard w/her little dog, Jay even Voytek. In a few of these particular photos, Jay seems to be wearing what looks to me like men’s underwear (tighty whiteys) See for yourself before you call someone out and pay attention when you read things!
I've always thought that it was strange how Sharon and Jay were linked with the rope. Wish they would do a DNA test to see if Jay was the father and not Roman.
I've seen the manson interviews and the crimes on UA-cam. I think tex knows more. Why did Sharon and Jay be hung? They was a couple? Was Jay the target? And romans a very strange person.
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I watched Doris Tate years ago on a show called talk of the town ,she always wanted to ask Pat Krenwinkel what she met by saying Sharon wasnt suppose to be home that night,I guess they didnt see her car thinking she wasnt home,the car was in the garage, I think there was more to this story,we will never know,makes me think there was a bad drug deal that went wrong with jay and vofcgeck,I guess we will never know for sure.
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@@jacquelinedixon6438 i think they all have been to that cielo house whilst sharon was renting it. Might not of been when she was there but while gibby n voytek were watching it and they were dealing drugs from it.
@@adsygee6414 I think your right,I think there were many famous people that were dealing in drugs around that time with some of Manson's followers. Sharon's dad was on to something,he even went to Mama Cass home to talk what she might have known something saying she had a loaded gun setting on a table next to her,she told him I guess a lot of us are paranoid now these days,yes I believe something more went on,many of us will never know
Dude and bro WTF. Loses a bit of credibility when you have a guy with no vocabulary at the mic.
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This narrative is completely new and goes against all the facts. Seems like someone's out to try to stir controversy for controvery's sake.
Facts are facts. The heater Skelter theory never made any sense and you’re brain dead if you believe it lol
7:20looks like he lied he scratched his nose and looked to the side away from people
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Does that one guy with Tattoos have pot next to his pipe?
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What a bunch of bs
Chemtrails?! Gimme an effing break.
Why would 40 nations sign a peace treaty stating that they won't use weather modification as an instrument of warfare in 1977? Unless of course the technology already existed 44 years ago to modify the weather. Contrails from jets dissipate almost immediately. However, the streams of white mist that stay in the atmosphere for hours, sometimes days at a time, those are chemtrails filled with toxic metals to reflect the sun. The sun is releasing toxic amounts of radiation through solar flares and is becoming a threat to our planet. This can all be verified through independent research. Thanks for tuning in and leaving a comment. Be sure to subscribe Bruce. We love the comments and we love free thinkers. Thanks for the challenge. We appreciate the support. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Modification_Convention
@@kushandchemtrails Blah blah blah. Find me one CREDIBLE pilot who will testify, UNDER OATH, to participating in these supposed chem trail ops. You can't. Cuz there ain't none.
@@brucemacmillan7128 Actually, there is one Bruce. Ask and thou shalt receive... ua-cam.com/video/jHm0XhtDyZA/v-deo.html
@@kushandchemtrails One. That's the best you can do? I can find dozens of doctors who are more than willing to tell me of the supposed mortal dangers of Covid vaccines. And I don't believe any of them. Try again losers.
@@kushandchemtrails If the sun is releasing toxic amounts of radiation, then why would you be upset or concerned with supposed efforts in the form of chemtrails to combat that? Pick a lane. In any event, the sun constantly releases radiation in varying amounts. We have a magnet field surrounding the planet that negates large amounts of that radiation. No supposed chemtrails needed. Otherwise there would likely be no life on this planet.
But perhaps the REAL weather modification threat you should be concerned about is the collective modification we are ALL engaged in to one extent or another, thru the use of carbon emitting fossil fuels. Everytime someone gets behind the wheel of a gas guzzling SUV. Everytime we turn on the gas heating during winter weather, etc., THAT is the greatest weather (or climate) modification experiment. And it is one that all of the almost 8 billion of us are engaged in. No 'chemtrails' necessary. Get the picture?
Don't believe a lot of this, prove it audio, video, signed affidavits. I don't care anyone or all. You ave a lot to prove. I love hearing new evidence in this case, it's always fascinate, but a little respect please.
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Very inappropriate saying Frykowski was just a “druggie”
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If the shoe fits........
Passcode: along with chrissie I am a long time student of this case.. Tom backs up his claim about Frykowski, look up nikolas Schreck- frykowski was Romans friend who Roman says while given a lie detector test was a leech, leeching off of him. He was not a film maker as he preferred to call himself. Canadians drug lords were delivering a shipment of MDA extacy to Frykowski. He was Ted distribution rights since MDA was not illegal in 69. Linda kasabian who stole 5 grand from her ex husband paid Frykowski 1000 dollars for extacy which turned out to be a poor batch. It was Linda’s idea with Watson to go to taxes rented house 10050 Ceilo drive to rob them of this shipment of MDA but since they were so high. Violence escalated to murder and once they shot sebringwho dealt cocaine to hisdelebrity clients whose cable wires and not the phone lines cut the night before in Sebrings house. Sharon was collateral damage. To provide drug motive at trial would’ve revealed powerful peoples drug habits so helter skelter was given as motive. Bugliosi gave Atkins a narrative to hide the drug motive. Killers knew the occupants mainly Frykowski and Folgers. Frykowski was using Folgers . She was to fly home and enter rehab on Saturday. Shecwanted to leave frykowski. Sharon complained bitterly to Roman wanting to kick frykowski out of the house since he was having unseemly people she didn’t know. Kasabian was not brainwashed, she joined mansons family that July. So Manson had no time to convince her of helter skelter. It wasn’t the motive. Watson actually knew atlobelli who rented the house out to Roman . Watson lived for 3 months in the guesthouse in 68. Sharon who moved in to Ceilo in Jan went to Europe to film 13 chairs and didn’t come back till July 21 st murders were Aug 8 - actually the 9 th at midnight. Sharon was collateral damage. She was supposed to stay with Sheila wells but last minute decided to stay home since she was tired and hot. House had no central air. Roman was in England searching for location sites for day of the dolphin.fSharon would be alive today if not for Frykowsis drug dealing while he lived in the house while Roman and Sharon were away.
Look he didn't sodamize a young girl & I'm sick of listening to this. He may have been wrong doing what he did with that girl but I belive she was 15yrs old. Also it's got f all to do with us about the personal lives of others. I ve listened to the polygraph test & yes he protected Sharon by saying she never used drugs etc. Leave people get on with their lives
He's still a wife cheater, manipulator, enjoys screwing under age girls,
and others have claimed rape by the asshole
I believe she was 13.
She was most definitely 13 years old.
He was there with her cuz he was her gay best friend hairdresser
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Jay was NOT gay. Don't know where you heard that.
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Had could Jay be gay when he use to date Sharon!? Stupid comment!!
@@hollylynn9322 We love your spunk.