Wow, thank you! I appreciate you saying that. Someone else told me I was being disrespectful to her and dragging her good name thru the mud. whatever... LOL.
And a very kind, giving person, just like her friend, Sharon Tate. It’s so ironic that Manson chose to take down this group of promising young people that he labeled as “some rich movie stars, some piggies,” when they were anything but, especially Sharon and Abigail.
Abigail Folger seemed like an amazing human being. She was doing Gods work and no one was giving her props for it. She should at least get her flowers now for all the work she did to help people that had less than her.
Abigail was a benevolent soul and her humanitarian work is to be praised. Billy gave her the utmost respect in this video and that should be commended. You’re right, Wendy, she had a heart for others and tried to comfort and encourage them and that is the Lord’s work. Peace
@@paulseano5100 We always hear about the Manson family but we rarely hear about Abigail, Jay Sebring, Rosemary Labainca, Steven Parent, Gary Hinman, Wojciech Frykowski and Sharon Tate. I saw a documentary about Jay Sebring but I want to see a docuseries about all these people. I think they should be honored and remembered for how they lived!
God bless you Abigail Folger, you did your upmost to help others, kind generous , with a big heart , I IMAGNE Sharon was pleased to have a friend like you, you were both very kind.
Yes, these were very kind-hearted people and they deserved better than what ultimately happened to them. Thanks for your comments and thanks also for watching.
@@memoryfield They tryed to change world. They thought there in power. But were not here to change it. Were to observe and learn . we can change our perspective in negative field. Within construct. Remember the cabol planned this as siopp and they had there mk mind control Manson to take peace way from hippie movement. These were all charectors playen there parts. Got payed for. Includen lawyers. And kernal TATE. He was in operation to stop the yourh from love generation to cause fear. There is whole book out on this. And man was intriviewd om joe Rogan show. Siopp or not seven people and the others were probally were murdered. But house furniture was all stage .Polanski part of elite. If you saw Repulsion the effect of last victom is similar of TATE. found behind same kind couch. Same ideas. People think there liven on the other side of world. But i think they really have been murdered. As time gos on the light in us be able reveil what really was truth. But news. Government and cia. And hollywood. Know how to control masses. We really got to think here. All these girls were from good families had best grades. And Tex was popular football player in high school. Same areia as Sharon Tate was born. The kernal Tates father was running hair salon in the back as soon as Jay Sebring was running secret info .MANSON even said it that he feared. Kernal more then any one. This guy was planned to destroy Haite Asbury comunity. right from beginning. It was well crated to scare population against love youth. And it worked. But seven people probally did die.so sad.
You are an excellent storyteller!! I am absolutely captivated with Abigail Folger! I have viewed this segment twice now and it just fascinates me. Thanks for all of your hard work. Blessings to you and your family.
I'm only getting started, but I had to watch this episode first, I've always found this beautiful young lady interesting, and for some reason I always felt like she had a "normal person personality", not a "look at me, I'm rich"!
I was deeply saddened by the recent death of David Crosby. Sadly, all of the musical icons I followed and listened to back in the 60's and 70's are now in their mid to late 70's and early 80's. (Although Yoko Ono will be 90 in February and the fact that Keith Richards is still alive never ceases to amaze me!!) There is no doubt in my mind that the music of my generation will continue to be played for many years to come. I recently watched the documentary "Echo in the Canyon" (2019). Tom Petty appeared several times...another icon gone too soon. I accidentally stumbled on your UA-cam miniseries after googling "Laurel Canyon". In two days, I binge watched Episodes 1-9 and I was sad for it to end because I wanted more! It was entertaining, informative, interesting and simply amazing!! I loved listening to you. You have a great voice and are very articulate; not to mention the fact that you are an incredible storyteller, too! Thank you SO much for making this. I am now a subscriber and I look forward to more in the future! Keep up the good work!! 🙌❤
Very kind of you to say all of these nice things, Joanne. We had a lot of fun going out there and making these videos. Always glad to hear when someone else gets enjoyment and entertainment from them as well.
@@deboramccallum3987 WOULD MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER THAT JORNALIST HAS GOTTON STORY THAT IT WAS MADE TO FRIGHTEN HELL OUT OF US. ITS WHY ITS KEPT UP. TO NEVER HAVE ANOTHER LOVE GENERATION. THEY HAVE TO CONTROL MASSES BY FEAR. THAT GUY WROTE BOOK WAS HUNTED DOWN BY JOURNALIST WHO HAS BOOK OUT AND WAS ON JOE ROGANS SHOW. EVEN THOUGH IM NOT JOE ROGAN FAN. . THAT LAWYER WAS PAID TO PLAY PART OUT. HE WAS ALLMOST HAVEN BRAKE DOWN CAUSE JOURNALIST WAS ASKEN HIM QUESTIONS HE WAS INVOLVED IN. HE GOT SICK AND PAST WAY. IT WAS MADE TO FRIGHTEN HELL OF PUBLIC. THERE WERE MANY MANY MURDERS IN LAURAL CANYON THAT SUMMER. UNSOLVED NEVER WAS ADDRESS . THIS WAS SI OPP SO WAS MAN ON MOON. THOSE POOR ASTRONAUTS HAD TO BE FOOLED AND WENT LONG WITH SIOPP. WERE TWO ROWE BY THIS NEGATIVE FIELD. ALL IS STAGE. .ITS NOT OUR WORLD ITS COPY.
Abigail's story was very poignantly told by you. It is a great tribute to Abigail. She really did try to help people. Thank you for a great insight into Abigail Folger's life journey.
You are so welcome. Thanks again for watching and yes, Abigail Folger seemed like a very special person and such a tragedy to lose a good person like that at such a young age. She deserved better.
I'm absolutely captivated with this series on Laurel Canyon. You are such a great storyteller and have done a ton of research and can I just say I am HERE for it? 🤗 Each video just keeps me wanting more and more. Please keep going! This is so fascinating.
Thank you for giving her her due and helping flesh out her back story, as she always seems to get rather brushed aside in favour of the other, higher profile victims. She really did come across as a genuinely good, kind-hearted and even complex soul, and not just another vacuous showbiz type, otherwise remembered more for the circumstances surrounding her tragically short and cruelly halted life.
@@memoryfield wow u got "nice digs" can enquire what do u do for a living ? We're u ever in a band as it looks like u play instruments ! Thnx just curious Nice vlogs!
I like it when the victims are humanized and not referred to as Manson victims. I feel the same way about Steven Parent, often overlooked, just a kid. A great presentation as usual. I hope it's not the last.
Thanks Joanne. I have thought about Steven Parent too quite a bit during this process but I decided against bringing him into this particular version of the story. He was a clear case of just really, really being at the wrong place at the worst possible time. Had he left that property just 5 or 7 minutes earlier than he did, he would have escaped that terrible fate. I feel guilty about leaving him out, but I also couldn't justify the idea that he had anything to do with the Laurel Canyon connection or any connection to the people inside the main house at Cielo Drive, other than the details of his murder. All of it was incredibly tragic and senseless, including his death as well. Thanks for bringing him up.
Yeah I understand the context of why Abagail is covered in regards to Laurel Canyon. Yes, a tragic tragic event, I can't stand the way some people see Manson as a victim and or folk hero. I can perfectly understand why Peter Folger protected his daughters legacy, from what I have read from those times man if the victims were seen as bringing those circumstances upon themselves and were at times publicly dragged through the mud so to speak. Yeah, if only Steven had left in that fraction of time....
I’ve done a lot of research on Abigail. None of this was new information to me but I admire and appreciate the way you’ve not speculated rumours but have left things open because none of us truly know. Missing from this video is the info that she had a short relationship with Jim Marshall and went to the Monterey Pop Festival with him I got hold of some documents years ago that documented funeral expenses for her and in these documents, it was stated that Peter Folger had gone to Los Angeles to retrieve her body. And also the hotel bill in LA where he stayed overnight after going to get her. I still have those documents. And I love your Doors memorabilia. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos
That's amazing that you were able to get hold of documents such as those. I'm sure they're probably quite valuable! Thanks for watching and thanks for your comments and insight.
@@crmay72I also thought her life was fascinating too,she was more than someone that was just another victim that horribly died that night.She was civil right supporter,she loved helping people, definitely someone I would of like to be friends with.
You think you know a lot about Laurel Canyon, then you watch this series and you realize you know nothing. The stories are told in such a compelling way. I learned so much. You are well researched. I like that you correct any misinformation as you learn more, don’t be so hard on yourself though. I had no clue there was so much beautiful music and culture going on, and how the Manson murders destroyed the innocence of the 60’s decade in Laurel Canyon. You could literally teach a college class on Laurel Canyon, in fact you should. Do any of the other canyons have the rich history of Laurel Canyon? Any info on Bob Seger’s Hollywood Nights inspiration?
Haha, thanks a lot but I can already think of at least a dozen others that know way more than I do about all of this right now. Hollywood in general has about 10,000 different stories that can all be told but for some reason Laurel Canyon just seemed to be the one concentrated area where so much happened in a very specific time period. Topanga Canyon had quite a few musicians living there as well, but that seemed like the place they all wanted to go to actually get AWAY from all the craziness and to just be left alone in peace and quiet. I always picture Bob Seger at the end of Hollywood Nights as sitting in his car way up at the top of Mulholland Drive and looking down at the lights of LA. I know because I've done it myself a few times. :)
A wonderful expose on Abigail "Gibby" Folger. From what I had read about her, your account is very accurate. It's true about her station in life causing her feelings of guilt. According to John Phillips of the Mama's and Papas, in his autobiography Michelle Phillips had kind of looked down on Abigail (John and Michelle were part of the Polanski inner circle of friends) simply because Abigail was born of privilege and didn't have to earn her status among the group. John also recalled an incident where Voytek came over to the house for something but John had turned him away. John and Michelle didn't like Voytek and had thought of him as a seedy hustler who couldn't be trusted. It's also true that Gibby was to leave on the 9th to San Francisco to celebrate her birthday with her mother. I also heard this as being true that Abigail was deined being buried in the family plot, hence the reason why she was intered in the mausoleum. A fascinating woman and a fascinating but short life. Thanks for all your diligent research in showing the world that Abigail was more than just a faceless victim of murder. She deserves better than that.
Glad to hear that! Thank you so much for being here and for your kind comments. It was an incredible time and so much great music was created and will never be forgotten. Not all of the history was positive or uplifting (like in this particular episode) but we have to take the good with the bad and the joy with the sadness. It all happened and it was just life.
Hi Billy, just watched your excellent presentation of Laurel Canyon. I was indeed entertained and informed. I’ve watched a few docs and vids about the Laurel Canyonmusic scene. While I knew much about this scene, I learned even more from watching your detailed series. My GF and I thoroughly enjoyed your presentation, thanks!😎🎶❤️
Thank you so much for your very kind comments and for your generous gift as well! Happy to hear that you enjoyed the series and that you were able to find us here. We had a lot of fun making this series and if time and money weren't an issue, we'd keep on making more just like this. Maybe we make more in the near future.
Well done. I have always wondered about Abigail's story. I just discovered your channel yesterday, and binge watching your videos. P.S. Your kitty is beautiful, and very sweet with her cuddles she wanted from you.
Thank you so much! We appreciate you being here and for your comments. And yes, that's Lizzy our gentle and lovely cat. She's getting on in her years now, about twelve at this point. But she's had an easy and uneventful, healthy life. I think she'll be around for a good long while.
Well thank you for saying so. I've seen a few others that also seemed quite good in their own ways, each one having different strengths and weaknesses. I don't make documentaries as a professional filmmaker but I love the history of this time period and this area, and I also just really, really love the music that blossomed out of this little dot on the map. Thank you so much for watching and also for your very kind comments.
WOW! I was at the Tate home for the 24th anniversary of the murders. Trent Reznor had invited the bands I was hanging out with to an "after party". He gave us a tour of the home with the hardback Helter Skelter book in hand. It was a night I will NEVER forget. Knowing more about the victims makes me feel really weird having been there.....
That must have been scary AF 1santos1, that night at Cielo drive was like a shot heard round the world for so many people especially the youths growing up in that era. I was 17 yrs old at the time and getting ready to graduate high school. After the Tate/LaBianca murders we were no longer called flower children but were referred to as dirty hippies. Older generation locked their houses and cars and we were no longer asked to babysit the small children of the adults in my town. To say that there were trust issues going on between the adults that grew up during WWII and the baby boomers was an understatement. The world got mean! The week after was Woodstock Festival that I attended, but for me it was the end of innocence. That was all the way over on the East Coast. As far as Bugliosi’s book, it was nothing but a cash grab for a power hungry prosecutor, if you want to read about factual events that took place at Cielo Drive read H. Allegra Lansing’s book. It dispels all the Bugliosi myths and gives only the facts that happened on August 1969 at Cielo Drive! Hope you enjoy reading it!☮️✌️
I don’t watch a lot of vlogs because there not well produced. Your one of the few that I watch because you do a good job of laying out the story and it’s thorough and factual. As a side note your cat is so beautiful!
What a fantastic series! Thanks so much for putting this together and sharing it with us! I'll definitely recommend this to my friends and anyone with an interest in this era and the great music it produced.
This is undoubtedly the best, most thorough presentation of all these storied events and tying them together from a realistic perspective. Thank you for taking the time to create and even going back to make corrections, which shows your dedication to truth and accuracy. The 10050 Cielo Drive events have always made me search for the truth, as I was young when they happened, and you definitely cannot depend on "the media" to bring you the truth. I subscribed and look forward to more.
If only her second language had been, say, Swahili, she would have had a very different life. Thank you for this pitch-perfect tribute to a sensitive, idealistic, well-heeled young woman.
Really have enjoyed watching every episode of Laurel Canyon. The story of Crosby, Stills and Nash is fascinating. Enjoyed the Jim Morrisson, Carole King, Mama Cass, Joni Mitchell and Frank Zappa episodes too.
Wow. Sounds like you went thru just about every one of these. That's a lot of time spent! But thank you for your comments and we're so glad you've enjoyed all of these videos.
Thank you so much for this. There isn't much on Abigail, but with this video I feel like I've learned so much about her life. This was done so respectfully and looked at so many angles and time periods of her life. Incredibly, incredibly done!!! Subscribed.
You're so welcome! Glad you found us here and yes, this one did take a while to compile all the information about her and it took some time to find all of it.
Bluetooth works both ways, like most things. Plots can be twisted and I really think that your take is probably more true than you even know. But I was wondering, she had no siblings, cousins or other family to inherit the wealth?
Thank you for your hard work and commitment to create this series. Lizzy is adorable too! This brings back some frightening memories in my younger life while living in Santa Monica. I was one month shy of my eleventh birthday when the killings to place on Cielo Drive. I read recently that the killers had passed our home by approximately 300' while on their way to carry out their leaders orders. We lived on 18th just up from Santa Monica Blvd. When the trials began the followers were protesting at Wilshire Blvd. and Ocean Ave. (according to my father) and at Wilshire and Lincoln Blvd. where I saw them. I remember it being creepy as their heads were shaved and they were holding signs and yelling. I was on my way to the Boys Club nearby. I definitely kept my distance from them but observed the madness for a short period. While at the Boys Club a few of us noticed a group of them heading upstairs to an apartment directly across the street which was over a business that sold musical instruments. A friend mentioned that they were removing their shoes before going in the door??? After the killings there was a curfew in Santa Monica and surrounding areas until the all clear was sounded after the arrests. I believe it was at 9pm and I was spooked walking home in the evening from my friends place two blocks away. We were observant as kids living in the area as the crazy culture was very transparent and it was a good idea to always watch ones back. Many ethical, cultural and ethnic things going on that were unsafe. I have an infant brother and sister who are buried at Holy Cross Cemetery not far from Sharon Tate and her child. Thank you again and if and when I come back to visit my hometown then I'll have to visit Laurel Canyon to take it all in. I learned so many new details from your incredible research and adding so many pieces to the puzzle.
Wow. Thank you for sharing all of the firsthand information from someone who was there while it was all happening. Crazy things were surely going on all over the Hollywood area. Probably still are, but I think people are becoming numb to a lot of it now. Very sad. Thanks again for watching and for commenting. Much appreciated.
I first watched this series last summer as I have wanted to see and learn about the fabled Laurel Canyon. Ive watched it twice and just loved it so. Im 70 and was thrilled to hear about the artists from my generation whom I so enjoyed and still do. I even enjoyed the episode with David Crosby and Joni Mitchell whom I am not a fan of. Keep doing what youre doing and we'll all be along for the ride
Thank you so much for watching and for your very nice comments. Glad to hear you've liked all of it so far. If we had unlimited time and money we'd probably end up making a lot more of these types of documentaries, but we've had fun with what we've done so far.
Cass was not innocent. She was the child of intelligence and she was originally a suspect in the Tate/Folger murders. Not to mention that quite a few of her entourage participated in the murders. Papa was John Phillips, another intelligence offspring who was sus af.
My previous reply strangely disappeared re Cass NOT being vulnerable. Her family, sus, papa's famil, sus. They were initially both considered witness's in the k1llings, and many of their entourage were present.
That's me finished watching Episode 9, again. Your Series should earn you some sort of UA-cam recognition, Billy, as it's the best I've ever viewed. Keep on V/logging and keep your many Scottish followers happy. ..Cheers
Thanks again for all of that! Actually, Scotland is way up there on my list as a place I want to visit and document visually. Probably right after Hawaii, lol.
Abigail was so beautiful inside and out . Her tragic life cut so short . I could not imagine the last 30 min of her life . They said there was drugs and it was a drug related killing. I don’t believe I That a lot of young people during the 60s did drugs for recreational use . I believe the killings were revenge related because Manson was so full of hate and rage for not getting a record deal . She was a Amazing woman . She was so kind and generous and never used her name to get anything. She would laugh at him while teaching him English . If all women could be like Abagail they would be better off . Sad loss of life for this beautiful woman. I believe we should remember how she lived and all the good she did than her death . Thank you for this and paying tribute to a lady who deserves to be honored and remembered. Such a great tribute well done .
You sir, are thorough and I loved this series. I have even shown it with my parents and their friends! What a way to reminisce about a time gone by. This series is just great! Saw you made a video this morning and now my coffee is extra sweet! Thank you and good morning!!
I knew a little about her before, that she was an heiress and a civil rights campaigner. I now feel that I know what type of person she was. She sounded like a good person. What happened to her was extremely tragic.
I recently learned that Abigail was a relative of mine through her mother, Inés. All things I find regarding Abigail online or on UA-cam is about either her being from the Folger fortune or some sort sensationalist take on her death, and even then, it's mainly about Sharon. Thanks for this video. I have so many questions about what she must have been like. I myself am I freelance Artist with a passion for art history, and though I haven't traveled very much in life, not even within the country, I did go to art school in Alameda county and by the piers where her family lived, coincidentally. I had no idea at the time. I also became a contract special victims advocate (aka unofficial social worker) for a local court in my 20s, but it burned me out after 2 contracts, though I really did care. Who knows, perhaps just a coincidence.
Thank you very much! I thought Abigail's story needed to be told in greater detail. Too bad all of it had such a terrible ending. She deserved better than what ended up happening to her.
A rare article, in a magazine back in the early 1990's did an interesting article about Ms. Folger, that was specific and detailed and was said to have had a positive reaction from those who new Her, your presentation was done was done in good taste and the not the same old story, it has been rumored that the NRA wanted her murder investigated. Conspiracy Theory always springs up out of Horror, fact is She was a very good person. Another point, She did manage to put a few marks on Tex as it was noted that Ms. Folger stood her ground and fought back, and tried to get away. Another thing, It is doubtful that there was very much Dope actually involved. Great presentation!
Apart from loving your videos - I’m very impressed with your fantastic posters, photos and instruments - all the gear you’ve got around the house - 2 particular things I loved are the album covers from Bowie’s Ziggy Stardust and Elton John’s Honky Chateau. Excellent taste in music!
It warms my heart to see some light shone towards Abigail. Understandably, a traumatizing thing for a family to have to deal with as well as in preserving a legacy privately. Though, she was unfairly characterized in the media during '69 well into next decades without much consideration than just another body count, as where all the victims. But in some sense, the media has played a dichotomy of conveyance in the machine of reporting, progressively, in time as well as decreased in other areas of decency. Room for empathy is left to the individual/reader/consumer to speculate on the wide range of humanity in others. For me, I can see it in Abigail's eyes. There always looked like this restless quest/longing/& a bit of sadness in her eyes. She definitely wanted to belong in such a way that made more sense of the world around her. The material wasn't enough when there was a need for more community connect, knowledge to learn/share, & a place to be held in love. I can't believe I'm just now seeing this video; as I've wondered if other information about her livelihood would ever be shared. Rather than what most reports/docs have deduced as an heiress sprawled out on a lawn in death, there's a light about her that deserves more respect. Her family was of the mind of a different time/generation that I can only guess didn't want to leave open for discussion. But forward to the time we're living in, the scope of perveption/ understanding is much different. 🕯
Thanks for the insightful commentary. We all feel the same way about Abigail over here. Such a shame for someone with so much life ahead of her to go out in such a senseless way.
I cannot get enough of your videos. You are doing an extraordinary work in your videos, from being exceedingly informative about your topics/subjects, being very down-to-earth when presenting your information to us (some people talk too fast and have too much editing which makes them look fake and/or robot-like entities). And to top it all off, your background is just another level, which adds so much beauty, interest, and imagination for the viewers. You literally transport us into the era with all the imagery provided in your videos. Excellent work, sir! 💕👍
Incredibly kind comments, and I'm glad you appreciate our work so much! 😀 These are a ton of work, but fun at the same time. Totally worth the effort. Thanks again!
@@memoryfield I know your videos are time consuming, that is where the excellence come from. I have one request for you, do not ever change yourself or the way you are presenting these videos. You seem to be a very natural and likeable person. Thank you for being yourself, I love your manerisms 🙂
@@memoryfield U know that we all have "other moments", that is what makes us humans. It is just that so many you tube-ers are too fake and too professional, lot's of them add loud and annoying background music, and on top of that, they portrey this ecstasy and talk fast ect. which just gives viewers a headache 🤕. So, it is very refreshing to see a normal person doing a normal video. It is so rare to see nowadays. People can recognize real from fake. Thank you, for being a normal person in your videos.
I know I am a little late to this series, but what a series it was. Amazing storytelling, accurate to a fault (!) and so wishing it could just go on and on and on!
Well, I just spent the last 2-3 days binge watching your series. Well made videos. Some stuff I knew about, but there was a lot of info that I didn't know. Good job, thank you for putting in the work to bring to us.
Thanks for a fantastic, hugely entertaining and engrossing series, Billy. You're a great storyteller, and I particularly appreciate your constant quest for the truth.
I also really appreciate the very humanistic, caring way he treats the subjects of his research...For many years, I had just written off the Manson Family, and even the victims, as being weird, peripheral flaky people of little consequence....but Billy has a way of bringing out my compassionate feelings for these unfortunate people. I am left with a deeper understanding of other people's complicated lives.
Cool cat I have 3 Crosby, Stills and Nash I've been watching your entire Laurel Canyon series this past month As the child of a baby boomer, I was well educated with the music of the 60s especially the California Folk Rock scene Very well made videos and informative.
Excellent job on delving into Abigail's life, done in a very sensitive way. Those of us who have spent years researching the case can really appreciate it. Thanks.
This has been a wonderful series, probably the best i have seen on UA-cam. I've likened the series to a good book. When you are not reading it, or at work, or have just woken up, you are still thinking about and can't wait to get back to it. You missed Arthur Lee's old abode which was previously owned by actor Bela Lugosi but I will forgive you for that. May be I'll wait for the sequel. Thank you for your meticulous research and presentation.
I want to recommend that he zeroes in on the address 2850 Benedict Canyon Drive...the home there (that I believe was torn down a few years ago) was frequently rented out to famous people...Za Za Gabor once owned the house, as did Cary Grant...in the 60s, the Rolling Stones briefly rented it...later, in Sept-Oct of 1968, Jimi Hendrix was situated there, for a sort of "working" vacation...during that time, he crashed his blue Corvette, and then bought another Corvette, with the insurance money!..Lots of other recording artists visited him, and also recorded with him, at TTG studios in Los Angeles....there are some interesting stories of the activity at that address...and some photos on the Internet too!
As rich as her family was/is, I read that at the time of her death, her personal worth was quite marginal. Her assets consisted of a condo or apartment in San Francisco, a new car, and less than $20K in the bank. Her kindness and generosity spoke for her personality. So sad she died at such a young age.
Yes, very much agreed. She was set to inherit a massive fortune that she would have been granted, as it turned out, roughly eleven years after her own untimely death. But it does seem that she decided to live rather frugally, based on the amount of money she was already receiving from her family as a monthly allowance. For example, I wrongly assumed that she had just outright bought that house in Laurel Canyon, on Woodstock Road, with cash. I found out later that she was just renting it from the family that lived next door at the time. She had the money to do that, but she chose not to. Maybe she had no plans to stay there long term? Who knows. I have often wondered if she felt some sense of guilt and remorse that she was born into wealth and she had to prove to herself and everyone else that she was going to make her own way regardless of this fact.
@@memoryfield I know a couple of people who come from extremely wealthy families, and they seem to express some sort of guilt from it. They are both quite generous, and one of them volunteers his time at a soup kitchen, feeding the homeless
@@rollydoucet8909 this person you speak of is an example, that people can follow and be able to sleep at night, knowing they still contribute to society, regardless of where they came from. It's always where you're going that matters more.
From another source, apparently Mrs. LaBianca, who had worked as a waitress for years had considerable more assets at her death vs. Miss Folger, due to saving money and shrewd stock investments.
This subject has always been one of interest to me. I'll get hooked on it for a few months, then leave it alone for a while. The more videos I watch, and the more I read, poor Sharon was surrounded by people that I feel put her life in danger. Why would Roman do this ? I also wonder why the Tates thought he was so awsome ? Thank you for your videos and research. Well done !!!
Just looked the character he chose to play in his film 'Chinatown' with Jack Nicholson. That litte tough guy that cut Jack's characters nose in the scene at the reservoir. And then look what he turned out to be(chomo)and he's still on the run. LedHed Pb 207.20 🎶 🎸 🎹
i was 18 years old when all of this went down, but where i lived, it was on the news, but not really big news. wow! so much i never new! thanks for the series.
A Leo...Also did her grad paper on Christopher Marlowe.....Also was volunteering at Haight-Ashbury free clinic when Manson was in and out of there so she probably had met him before.
Thank you for your very kind words and thanks so much for watching. We appreciate you and your comments! This subject was a difficult one to approach because we never wanted to lose sight of the fact that she was a real human and didn't deserve to go out like that. No one does.
Really enjoyed your entire Laurel Canyon series. I particularly enjoy your storytelling style and the deep research you do on the subject matter. Subscribed and looking forward to more great content!
Thank you so much! We do have a new series that just started a few days ago and we plan to keep adding to it as much and as quickly as we possibly can. Please come back and visit us here!
Billy, I just finished the entire series, and I'd just like to say, you and your crew did a great job! It was not just informative but very entertaining as well, keeping me eager to view the next episode. Weaving all the various story lines together to support the entire work - phenomenal! I grew to enjoy the instrumental versions of the songs when initially I was disappointed that you didn't play the originals, but I guess that had to be done anyway do to regs. Surprised however that you didn't mention Blue Jay Way, especially since it's obvious you're a great Beatles fan. Some ideas for future projects: 1) Topanga Canyon; 2) the differences between the San Fran and LA music scenes of the sixties. That was alluded to in a documentary I watched about Monterey Pop; 3) how and why the hippie dream rose - it's roots and the behind the scenes influencers and agitators, both foreign and domestic, to peak perhaps in '67 during the so-called Summer of Love, and then to come crashing down as evidenced by the Manson murders and Altamont in '69 - despite Woodstock. Best of health and luck to you, your family, and your crew!
I have recently been watching your Laurel Canyon episodes and have enjoyed them quite a bit. Thank you for your insight and investigation into gathering the correct information as it's much appreciated. Also, your instrument collection (guitars), pictures and memorabilia is fantastic!!!! Btw..Lizzie the cat rules!!
So interesting and well put together- well explained in easy bites. I wish my teachers at school had been able ro put the matter across this well, thank you. Episode 9 ends so abruptly I felt like there must be another episode...?? Pls do an ending of sorts ....
I happened on to this website in my Neil Young, Bob Dylan, and Mommas and Papas feed. I saw the episode about Neil Young first and then Cass Elliott's life which I found so informative and emotionally touching. I knew nothing about Abigail Folger and find her story fascinating and can relate to very personally. I am a Jewish genealogist in my own family, not my husband's or our grandchildren's, and am 5th generation SF on my Mother's Mother's side and 4th gen on my other 3 sides. Abigail was my husband's age and I am 2 years younger. I was an Art History major in college also. I grew up with the Bransten (changed from German Jewish surname) children whose grandfather founded MJB Coffee in San Francisco. Many of the wealthiest families in SF, Jewish and not Jewish, had personal tragedies, and the Bransten children I grew up with, their father committed suicide. Many of the young adults my age from wealthy families in SF and the suburbs, became Anti War in college and then became hippies after they graduated, not using their degrees from UC Berkeley and Stanford and the State Universities, and got heavily into drugs.
Thank you so much, Jill, for sharing all of that personal information with us. We appreciate you being here and for your comments. Glad you found us and please come back anytime! Thanks for watching.
Thanks for sharing! Your video is excellent. I’ve always wanted to know more about Abigail. To echo the comments of others- she seemed kind, altruistic, idealistic, perhaps. It would be easy to get mixed up with drugs in late 60s L.A. Thank you for filling in so many details of her brief life.
As a guy with a daughter, I can imagine how shocking and distressing it would be to find out who your daughter was, and how she lived her life, only after her cruel, horrific, senseless murder. To find out in such a crushing way that you didn't know your daughter, and you had no idea who she was, how she lived her life. That's going to hurt in a way that few things can. I've read extensively about what Manson and his so called family did. I normally do *not* read about such things, but this one seemed to demand it. You have put things together in such a way that I'm seeing it in a completely new light. My heart goes out to those people, and their families all these years later. You've made Steven Parent, Abigail Folger, and even the others you didn't mention, more human to me than they ever were before. Truly brilliant work. I hope you will do other series like these in the future. I've already suggested one I'd love to see, but I won't wear that out. I really enjoyed this series. This last week has seen some really unexpected changes, and this series has given me a place to land for a few days while I get accustomed to what's happened. Thank you.
Oh, well that's pretty far away from all of us over here. Would love to get myself over there to the UK someday and do some documentaries on Bowie and Led Zep. Maybe also go to Manchester and talk about Joy Division/New Order and The Smiths. One day! Thanks for watching from Nottingham. :)
November must have been Laurel Canyon month - by chance. Watched the Val Kilmer "Doors" movie 1st week - Didn't enjoy it that much but after several sittings I made it to the end. Then was recommended a YT 2.5 hour video on the Music of Laurel C. Rewatched "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" last week & just finished watching your great series. I have now got a PhD in Laurel Canyon goings on-:)
Thank you for giving us insight into Abigail’s personal life. She was a beautiful young lady.
You have elevated Abigail Folger from simply a crime victim, to a beautiful person with a story. 🙏 Well done.
Thanks for watching and for your very nice comments. Very much appreciated!
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I find it fascinating that she was half Salvadorean as I am Salvadorean.
Came here to say exactly that.
I knew who Abigail was but you’re the first person to explain about how smart and talented she was thanks for your videos
Wow, thank you! I appreciate you saying that. Someone else told me I was being disrespectful to her and dragging her good name thru the mud. whatever... LOL.
And a very kind, giving person, just like her friend, Sharon Tate. It’s so ironic that Manson chose to take down this group of promising young people that he labeled as “some rich movie stars, some piggies,” when they were anything but, especially Sharon and Abigail.
Abigail Folger seemed like an amazing human being. She was doing Gods work and no one was giving her props for it. She should at least get her flowers now for all the work she did to help people that had less than her.
As long as Gods work included drug use & promiscuity.
@@rapman5791 Those things don’t make Someone a bad person. Most of us are a mixed bag.
Abigail was a benevolent soul and her humanitarian work is to be praised. Billy gave her the utmost respect in this video and that should be commended. You’re right, Wendy, she had a heart for others and tried to comfort and encourage them and that is the Lord’s work. Peace
@@paulseano5100 We always hear about the Manson family but we rarely hear about Abigail, Jay Sebring, Rosemary Labainca, Steven Parent, Gary Hinman, Wojciech Frykowski and Sharon Tate. I saw a documentary about Jay Sebring but I want to see a docuseries about all these people. I think they should be honored and remembered for how they lived!
@paulseano5100 Abigail was born to wealth and privilege. She didnt have to work. She volunteered as a social worker.
God bless you Abigail Folger, you did your upmost to help others, kind generous , with a big heart , I IMAGNE Sharon was pleased to have a friend like you, you were both very kind.
Yes, these were very kind-hearted people and they deserved better than what ultimately happened to them. Thanks for your comments and thanks also for watching.
Sharon had really gotten to like Abigail as a friend and also as a comrade since they both had to deal with two Polish narcissistic, arrogant jerks.
@@bobsebring2819 Abigail was fixing to break up with Voytek.
@@bobsebring2819Abigail was going to break up with him
@@memoryfield They tryed to change world. They thought there in power. But were not here to change it. Were to observe and learn . we can change our perspective in negative field. Within construct. Remember the cabol planned this as siopp and they had there mk mind control Manson to take peace way from hippie movement. These were all charectors playen there parts. Got payed for. Includen lawyers. And kernal TATE. He was in operation to stop the yourh from love generation to cause fear. There is whole book out on this. And man was intriviewd om joe Rogan show. Siopp or not seven people and the others were probally were murdered. But house furniture was all stage .Polanski part of elite. If you saw Repulsion the effect of last victom is similar of TATE. found behind same kind couch. Same ideas. People think there liven on the other side of world. But i think they really have been murdered. As time gos on the light in us be able reveil what really was truth. But news. Government and cia. And hollywood. Know how to control masses. We really got to think here. All these girls were from good families had best grades. And Tex was popular football player in high school. Same areia as Sharon Tate was born. The kernal Tates father was running hair salon in the back as soon as Jay Sebring was running secret info .MANSON even said it that he feared. Kernal more then any one. This guy was planned to destroy Haite Asbury comunity. right from beginning. It was well crated to scare population against love youth. And it worked. But seven people probally did die.so sad.
You are an excellent storyteller!! I am absolutely captivated with Abigail Folger! I have viewed this segment twice now and it just fascinates me. Thanks for all of your hard work. Blessings to you and your family.
I have now watched the entire LAUREL CANYON SERIES ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ YOU HAVE DONE A SUPERB JOB !!!
Thanks again, Anthony. You're awesome!
I'm only getting started, but I had to watch this episode first, I've always found this beautiful young lady interesting, and for some reason I always felt like she had a "normal person personality", not a "look at me, I'm rich"!
Someone Needs To Do A Book About Her They Really Need To Like To Know So Much More About Her Life
I was deeply saddened by the recent death of David Crosby. Sadly, all of the musical icons I followed and listened to back in the 60's and 70's are now in their mid to late 70's and early 80's. (Although Yoko Ono will be 90 in February and the fact that Keith Richards is still alive never ceases to amaze me!!) There is no doubt in my mind that the music of my generation will continue to be played for many years to come. I recently watched the documentary "Echo in the Canyon" (2019). Tom Petty appeared several times...another icon gone too soon. I accidentally stumbled on your UA-cam miniseries after googling "Laurel Canyon". In two days, I binge watched Episodes 1-9 and I was sad for it to end because I wanted more! It was entertaining, informative, interesting and simply amazing!! I loved listening to you. You have a great voice and are very articulate; not to mention the fact that you are an incredible storyteller, too!
Thank you SO much for making this. I am now a subscriber and I look forward to more in the future! Keep up the good work!! 🙌❤
Very kind of you to say all of these nice things, Joanne. We had a lot of fun going out there and making these videos. Always glad to hear when someone else gets enjoyment and entertainment from them as well.
I must say, Helter Skelter is one of the most terrifying books I've ever read..bone chilling
@@deboramccallum3987 WOULD MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER THAT JORNALIST HAS GOTTON STORY THAT IT WAS MADE TO FRIGHTEN HELL OUT OF US. ITS WHY ITS KEPT UP. TO NEVER HAVE ANOTHER LOVE GENERATION. THEY HAVE TO CONTROL MASSES BY FEAR. THAT GUY WROTE BOOK WAS HUNTED DOWN BY JOURNALIST WHO HAS BOOK OUT AND WAS ON JOE ROGANS SHOW. EVEN THOUGH IM NOT JOE ROGAN FAN. . THAT LAWYER WAS PAID TO PLAY PART OUT. HE WAS ALLMOST HAVEN BRAKE DOWN CAUSE JOURNALIST WAS ASKEN HIM QUESTIONS HE WAS INVOLVED IN. HE GOT SICK AND PAST WAY. IT WAS MADE TO FRIGHTEN HELL OF PUBLIC. THERE WERE MANY MANY MURDERS IN LAURAL CANYON THAT SUMMER. UNSOLVED NEVER WAS ADDRESS . THIS WAS SI OPP SO WAS MAN ON MOON. THOSE POOR ASTRONAUTS HAD TO BE FOOLED AND WENT LONG WITH SIOPP. WERE TWO ROWE BY THIS NEGATIVE FIELD. ALL IS STAGE. .ITS NOT OUR WORLD ITS COPY.
Abigail's story was very poignantly told by you. It is a great tribute to Abigail. She really did try to help people. Thank you for a great insight into Abigail Folger's life journey.
You are so welcome. Thanks again for watching and yes, Abigail Folger seemed like a very special person and such a tragedy to lose a good person like that at such a young age. She deserved better.
Hi Thankyou for sharing beautiful and talented Abigail Folger. So sad to hear her life cut short. May she Rest In Peace with her friends. 👍🏻
Yes, very sad indeed. She was a special soul and deserved better than what happened to her.
I always wanted to know more about Abigail Folger & Jay Sebring.
A good documentary about Jay available on UA-cam. The documentary is made a family member of Jay's.
Slinging drugs tells you all you need to know !
Enough said !
@@maximumoverload5134Sebring was also the barber to the stars, drugs was probably what got him in the door and funded his business.
I'm absolutely captivated with this series on Laurel Canyon. You are such a great storyteller and have done a ton of research and can I just say I am HERE for it? 🤗 Each video just keeps me wanting more and more. Please keep going! This is so fascinating.
Yay, thank you! There's a couple more left in the tank, I think.
@@memoryfield How did you find your information?
Whoa - just binged that series over two days...thank you for bringing "to life" that amazing and horrifying history!
Thank you for giving her her due and helping flesh out her back story, as she always seems to get rather brushed aside in favour of the other, higher profile victims. She really did come across as a genuinely good, kind-hearted and even complex soul, and not just another vacuous showbiz type, otherwise remembered more for the circumstances surrounding her tragically short and cruelly halted life.
Thank you for remembering Abigail❤ Always makes me sad to think of her last words and what they did to her beautiful face, rest in eternal peace💕🕊
never before have i enjoyed a you tube series as much as this one. well done
You are probably making the best documentaries on the subject. Your group are transmitters. Well done! All my support and dearest wishes.
Wow, thank you! Not sure about being the best, lol, but I do appreciate the kind words.
@@memoryfield wow u got "nice digs" can enquire what do u do for a living ? We're u ever in a band as it looks like u play instruments ! Thnx just curious Nice vlogs!
@@chairlesnicol672 Biologist with the US Forest Service by day, musician for life. Been in too many band to even count anymore, lol.
Your Rock n Roll collection is fabulous🎸🎶 🎹🎵🥁🎶 all my favs, especially The Doors🚪💋
She was so beautiful
A Well done video, wonderful to remember Abigail , at the end she fought for her life , but she was surrounded by cowards !!!!🙏🇬🇧
I like it when the victims are humanized and not referred to as Manson victims. I feel the same way about Steven Parent, often overlooked, just a kid.
A great presentation as usual. I hope it's not the last.
Thanks Joanne. I have thought about Steven Parent too quite a bit during this process but I decided against bringing him into this particular version of the story. He was a clear case of just really, really being at the wrong place at the worst possible time. Had he left that property just 5 or 7 minutes earlier than he did, he would have escaped that terrible fate. I feel guilty about leaving him out, but I also couldn't justify the idea that he had anything to do with the Laurel Canyon connection or any connection to the people inside the main house at Cielo Drive, other than the details of his murder. All of it was incredibly tragic and senseless, including his death as well. Thanks for bringing him up.
Yeah I understand the context of why Abagail is covered in regards to Laurel Canyon.
Yes, a tragic tragic event, I can't stand the way some people see Manson as a victim and or folk hero.
I can perfectly understand why Peter Folger protected his daughters legacy, from what I have read from those times man if the victims were seen as bringing those circumstances upon themselves and were at times publicly dragged through the mud so to speak.
Yeah, if only Steven had left in that fraction of time....
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I think his family would thank you respecting his privacy. Life and social mores different back then.
I’ve done a lot of research on Abigail. None of this was new information to me but I admire and appreciate the way you’ve not speculated rumours but have left things open because none of us truly know.
Missing from this video is the info that she had a short relationship with Jim Marshall and went to the Monterey Pop Festival with him
I got hold of some documents years ago that documented funeral expenses for her and in these documents, it was stated that Peter Folger had gone to Los Angeles to retrieve her body. And also the hotel bill in LA where he stayed overnight after going to get her. I still have those documents.
And I love your Doors memorabilia. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos
That's amazing that you were able to get hold of documents such as those. I'm sure they're probably quite valuable! Thanks for watching and thanks for your comments and insight.
For some reason, I just find her so fascinating! Do you know if there are any videos or clips of her out there? I would love to hear her speak, etc.
@@crmay72I also thought her life was fascinating too,she was more than someone that was just another victim that horribly died that night.She was civil right supporter,she loved helping people, definitely someone I would of like to be friends with.
@@j.ahayward7245 Absolutely! Me too.
You think you know a lot about Laurel Canyon, then you watch this series and you realize you know nothing. The stories are told in such a compelling way. I learned so much. You are well researched. I like that you correct any misinformation as you learn more, don’t be so hard on yourself though. I had no clue there was so much beautiful music and culture going on, and how the Manson murders destroyed the innocence of the 60’s decade in Laurel Canyon.
You could literally teach a college class on Laurel Canyon, in fact you should.
Do any of the other canyons have the rich history of Laurel Canyon?
Any info on Bob Seger’s Hollywood Nights inspiration?
Haha, thanks a lot but I can already think of at least a dozen others that know way more than I do about all of this right now. Hollywood in general has about 10,000 different stories that can all be told but for some reason Laurel Canyon just seemed to be the one concentrated area where so much happened in a very specific time period. Topanga Canyon had quite a few musicians living there as well, but that seemed like the place they all wanted to go to actually get AWAY from all the craziness and to just be left alone in peace and quiet. I always picture Bob Seger at the end of Hollywood Nights as sitting in his car way up at the top of Mulholland Drive and looking down at the lights of LA. I know because I've done it myself a few times. :)
A wonderful expose on Abigail "Gibby" Folger. From what I had read about her, your account is very accurate. It's true about her station in life causing her feelings of guilt. According to John Phillips of the Mama's and Papas, in his autobiography Michelle Phillips had kind of looked down on Abigail (John and Michelle were part of the Polanski inner circle of friends) simply because Abigail was born of privilege and didn't have to earn her status among the group. John also recalled an incident where Voytek came over to the house for something but John had turned him away. John and Michelle didn't like Voytek and had thought of him as a seedy hustler who couldn't be trusted. It's also true that Gibby was to leave on the 9th to San Francisco to celebrate her birthday with her mother. I also heard this as being true that Abigail was deined being buried in the family plot, hence the reason why she was intered in the mausoleum. A fascinating woman and a fascinating but short life. Thanks for all your diligent research in showing the world that Abigail was more than just a faceless victim of murder. She deserves better than that.
Just now finished watching all 9 episodes! Really enjoyed learning about Laurel Canyon and all the people associated with this area. Job well done!
Glad to hear that! Thank you so much for being here and for your kind comments. It was an incredible time and so much great music was created and will never be forgotten. Not all of the history was positive or uplifting (like in this particular episode) but we have to take the good with the bad and the joy with the sadness. It all happened and it was just life.
Hi Billy, just watched your excellent presentation of Laurel Canyon. I was indeed entertained and informed.
I’ve watched a few docs and vids about the Laurel Canyonmusic scene. While I knew much about this scene, I learned even more from watching your detailed series.
My GF and I thoroughly enjoyed your presentation, thanks!😎🎶❤️
Thank you so much for your very kind comments and for your generous gift as well! Happy to hear that you enjoyed the series and that you were able to find us here. We had a lot of fun making this series and if time and money weren't an issue, we'd keep on making more just like this. Maybe we make more in the near future.
Thank you for great info on Gibby. There isn't a lot out there. They kept her image pure.
I agree with you on that. This video took a long time because I had a lot of difficulty finding information on her that seemed legit.
Absolutely love your Laurel Canyon series. So well done!
Thanks so much! Glad you found us here. :)
Yes it gives you an inside view. You can lay back and listen and go back in time as if you were there living it.
Well done. I have always wondered about Abigail's story. I just discovered your channel yesterday, and binge watching your videos. P.S. Your kitty is beautiful, and very sweet with her cuddles she wanted from you.
Thank you so much! We appreciate you being here and for your comments. And yes, that's Lizzy our gentle and lovely cat. She's getting on in her years now, about twelve at this point. But she's had an easy and uneventful, healthy life. I think she'll be around for a good long while.
Best series on Laurel Canyon I have seen, thank you Billy!
Well thank you for saying so. I've seen a few others that also seemed quite good in their own ways, each one having different strengths and weaknesses. I don't make documentaries as a professional filmmaker but I love the history of this time period and this area, and I also just really, really love the music that blossomed out of this little dot on the map. Thank you so much for watching and also for your very kind comments.
Your videos are great! I appreciate this one because I have always wondered what Abigail was like as a person. Thank you for keeping her memory alive!
You are so welcome! She was definitely unique and such a loss of a caring person.
Thank you for remembering Abigail Folger.
WOW! I was at the Tate home for the 24th anniversary of the murders. Trent Reznor had invited the bands I was hanging out with to an "after party". He gave us a tour of the home with the hardback Helter Skelter book in hand. It was a night I will NEVER forget. Knowing more about the victims makes me feel really weird having been there.....
Oh my, that must have been a hauntingly disturbing experience.
That must have been scary AF 1santos1, that night at Cielo drive was like a shot heard round the world for so many people especially the youths growing up in that era. I was 17 yrs old at the time and getting ready to graduate high school. After the Tate/LaBianca murders we were no longer called flower children but were referred to as dirty hippies. Older generation locked their houses and cars and we were no longer asked to babysit the small children of the adults in my town. To say that there were trust issues going on between the adults that grew up during WWII and the baby boomers was an understatement. The world got mean! The week after was Woodstock Festival that I attended, but for me it was the end of innocence. That was all the way over on the East Coast. As far as Bugliosi’s book, it was nothing but a cash grab for a power hungry prosecutor, if you want to read about factual events that took place at Cielo Drive read H. Allegra Lansing’s book. It dispels all the Bugliosi myths and gives only the facts that happened on August 1969 at Cielo Drive! Hope you enjoy reading it!☮️✌️
I liked the ending to "Once Upon a time in Hollywood" a lot better than what really happened.
@@sqwuade I actually found it heartbreaking and very emotional. That scene at the gate makes me cry
@@cathygiuliana9089 i just ordered that book by allegra
I don’t watch a lot of vlogs because there not well produced. Your one of the few that I watch because you do a good job of laying out the story and it’s thorough and factual. As a side note your cat is so beautiful!
What a fantastic series! Thanks so much for putting this together and sharing it with us! I'll definitely recommend this to my friends and anyone with an interest in this era and the great music it produced.
This was very interesting and well presented.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is undoubtedly the best, most thorough presentation of all these storied events and tying them together from a realistic perspective. Thank you for taking the time to create and even going back to make corrections, which shows your dedication to truth and accuracy. The 10050 Cielo Drive events have always made me search for the truth, as I was young when they happened, and you definitely cannot depend on "the media" to bring you the truth. I subscribed and look forward to more.
Your research is monumental. Thank you.I have learned a lot. What a terrible happening. May they RIP.❤❤🙏
If only her second language had been, say, Swahili, she would have had a very different life. Thank you for this pitch-perfect tribute to a sensitive, idealistic, well-heeled young woman.
Really have enjoyed watching every episode of Laurel Canyon. The story of Crosby, Stills and Nash is fascinating. Enjoyed the Jim Morrisson, Carole King, Mama Cass, Joni Mitchell and Frank Zappa episodes too.
Wow. Sounds like you went thru just about every one of these. That's a lot of time spent! But thank you for your comments and we're so glad you've enjoyed all of these videos.
Thank you so much for this. There isn't much on Abigail, but with this video I feel like I've learned so much about her life. This was done so respectfully and looked at so many angles and time periods of her life. Incredibly, incredibly done!!! Subscribed.
You're so welcome! Glad you found us here and yes, this one did take a while to compile all the information about her and it took some time to find all of it.
Bluetooth works both ways, like most things. Plots can be twisted and I really think that your take is probably more true than you even know. But I was wondering, she had no siblings, cousins or other family to inherit the wealth?
Thank you for your hard work and commitment to create this series.
Lizzy is adorable too!
This brings back some frightening memories in my younger life while living in Santa Monica.
I was one month shy of my eleventh birthday when the killings to place on Cielo Drive.
I read recently that the killers had passed our home by approximately 300' while on their way to carry out their leaders orders. We lived on 18th just up from Santa Monica Blvd.
When the trials began the followers were protesting at Wilshire Blvd. and Ocean Ave. (according to my father) and at Wilshire and Lincoln Blvd. where I saw them.
I remember it being creepy as their heads were shaved and they were holding signs and yelling. I was on my way to the Boys Club nearby. I definitely kept my distance from them but observed the madness for a short period.
While at the Boys Club a few of us noticed a group of them heading upstairs to an apartment directly across the street which was over a business that sold musical instruments. A friend mentioned that they were removing their shoes before going in the door???
After the killings there was a curfew in Santa Monica and surrounding areas until the all clear was sounded after the arrests. I believe it was at 9pm and I was spooked walking home in the evening from my friends place two blocks away.
We were observant as kids living in the area as the crazy culture was very transparent and it was a good idea to always watch ones back. Many ethical, cultural and ethnic things going on that were unsafe.
I have an infant brother and sister who are buried at Holy Cross Cemetery not far from Sharon Tate and her child.
Thank you again and if and when I come back to visit my hometown then I'll have to visit Laurel Canyon to take it all in. I learned so many new details from your incredible research and adding so many pieces to the puzzle.
Wow. Thank you for sharing all of the firsthand information from someone who was there while it was all happening. Crazy things were surely going on all over the Hollywood area. Probably still are, but I think people are becoming numb to a lot of it now. Very sad. Thanks again for watching and for commenting. Much appreciated.
I first watched this series last summer as I have wanted to see and learn about the fabled Laurel Canyon. Ive watched it twice and just loved it so. Im 70 and was thrilled to hear about the artists from my generation whom I so enjoyed and still do. I even enjoyed the episode with David Crosby and Joni Mitchell whom I am not a fan of. Keep doing what youre doing and we'll all be along for the ride
Thank you so much for watching and for your very nice comments. Glad to hear you've liked all of it so far. If we had unlimited time and money we'd probably end up making a lot more of these types of documentaries, but we've had fun with what we've done so far.
Your work Sir is so very captivating. It's like reading a great book that you cannot put down. Hope there is more to come ! Thank you.
Many thanks! New series in the works right now.
@@memoryfield Awesome !
I glad you painted a picture of a giving and kind person ! One who though she was wealthy cared about others well being ❤
Abigail and Cass must have been extra vulnerable people. Maybe too kind in a cruel World?
It certainly seems like there were many who were there just to take advantage of the kindness, and the money.
Cass was not innocent. She was the child of intelligence and she was originally a suspect in the Tate/Folger murders. Not to mention that quite a few of her entourage participated in the murders. Papa was John Phillips, another intelligence offspring who was sus af.
Vulnerable selling dope huh !
My previous reply strangely disappeared re Cass NOT being vulnerable. Her family, sus, papa's famil, sus. They were initially both considered witness's in the k1llings, and many of their entourage were present.
Slinging dope !
That's me finished watching Episode 9, again. Your Series should earn you some sort of UA-cam recognition, Billy, as it's the best I've ever viewed. Keep on V/logging and keep your many Scottish followers happy. ..Cheers
Thanks again for all of that! Actually, Scotland is way up there on my list as a place I want to visit and document visually. Probably right after Hawaii, lol.
Abigail was so beautiful inside and out . Her tragic life cut so short . I could not imagine the last 30 min of her life . They said there was drugs and it was a drug related killing. I don’t believe I
That a lot of young people during the 60s did drugs for recreational use . I believe the killings were revenge related because Manson was so full of hate and rage for not getting a record deal . She was a Amazing woman . She was so kind and generous and never used her name to get anything. She would laugh at him while teaching him English . If all women could be like Abagail they would be better off . Sad loss of life for this beautiful woman. I believe we should remember how she lived and all the good she did than her death . Thank you for this and paying tribute to a lady who deserves to be honored and remembered. Such a great tribute well done .
You sir, are thorough and I loved this series. I have even shown it with my parents and their friends! What a way to reminisce about a time gone by. This series is just great! Saw you made a video this morning and now my coffee is extra sweet! Thank you and good morning!!
Also the food and open door policy was REAL! That took everyone I shared this with to a special place!! Que in a biscuit with gravy. And Ms. Cass!
Glad you've enjoyed it! I'm trying to stay on a schedule but sometimes I end up biting off more than I can handle. Still more to come!
I knew a little about her before, that she was an heiress and a civil rights campaigner. I now feel that I know what type of person she was. She sounded like a good person. What happened to her was extremely tragic.
Yes, we agree. She was a really good person and didn't deserve to go out that way. Thanks for your comments and thanks for watching.
I worked at Folgers in Sherman Texas & her picture hung in the lobby, I never knew who she was
@@kerry2921😮 Wow. Glad her picture 🖼️ was there, at the very least.✨🕊️🕯️✨
Absorbing. Fascinating detail. Extremely well researched.
Many thanks! Glad to hear from you again.
Another fabulous episode.
Please do more on Laurel Canyon if you get the chance.
So much history and interesting stories.
Your channel is excellent, you are born to do this
I’m glad I found your channel today
I recently learned that Abigail was a relative of mine through her mother, Inés. All things I find regarding Abigail online or on UA-cam is about either her being from the Folger fortune or some sort sensationalist take on her death, and even then, it's mainly about Sharon. Thanks for this video. I have so many questions about what she must have been like. I myself am I freelance Artist with a passion for art history, and though I haven't traveled very much in life, not even within the country, I did go to art school in Alameda county and by the piers where her family lived, coincidentally. I had no idea at the time. I also became a contract special victims advocate (aka unofficial social worker) for a local court in my 20s, but it burned me out after 2 contracts, though I really did care. Who knows, perhaps just a coincidence.
im glad your doing her story her life needing to be told
Nicely done, much more detailed and made more interesting by the specifics described and made so by excellent Narration.
Thank you very much! I thought Abigail's story needed to be told in greater detail. Too bad all of it had such a terrible ending. She deserved better than what ended up happening to her.
A rare article, in a magazine back in the early 1990's did an interesting article about Ms. Folger, that was specific and detailed and was said to have had a positive reaction from those who new Her, your presentation was done was done in good taste and the not the same old story, it has been rumored that the NRA wanted her murder investigated. Conspiracy Theory always springs up out of Horror, fact is She was a very good person. Another point, She did manage to put a few marks on Tex as it was noted that Ms. Folger stood her ground and fought back, and tried to get away.
Another thing, It is doubtful that there was very much Dope actually involved.
Great presentation!
Apart from loving your videos - I’m very impressed with your fantastic posters, photos and instruments - all the gear you’ve got around the house - 2 particular things I loved are the album covers from Bowie’s Ziggy Stardust and Elton John’s Honky Chateau. Excellent taste in music!
Hey, thanks for noticing all that. I do enjoy the rock memorabilia and the collecting of it. Lots of fun!
Very insightful, objective and well done. You have great communication skills. What a tragic story.
Thanks for sharing this
You bet!
Been really enjoying these videos!
Glad to hear it and thanks again. More to come!
It warms my heart to see some light shone towards Abigail. Understandably, a traumatizing thing for a family to have to deal with as well as in preserving a legacy privately. Though, she was unfairly characterized in the media during '69 well into next decades without much consideration than just another body count, as where all the victims. But in some sense, the media has played a dichotomy of conveyance in the machine of reporting, progressively, in time as well as decreased in other areas of decency. Room for empathy is left to the individual/reader/consumer to speculate on the wide range of humanity in others. For me, I can see it in Abigail's eyes. There always looked like this restless quest/longing/& a bit of sadness in her eyes. She definitely wanted to belong in such a way that made more sense of the world around her. The material wasn't enough when there was a need for more community connect, knowledge to learn/share, & a place to be held in love. I can't believe I'm just now seeing this video; as I've wondered if other information about her livelihood would ever be shared. Rather than what most reports/docs have deduced as an heiress sprawled out on a lawn in death, there's a light about her that deserves more respect. Her family was of the mind of a different time/generation that I can only guess didn't want to leave open for discussion. But forward to the time we're living in, the scope of perveption/ understanding is much different. 🕯
Thanks for the insightful commentary. We all feel the same way about Abigail over here. Such a shame for someone with so much life ahead of her to go out in such a senseless way.
Most informative. Very well presented. Thank you.
Much appreciated. Glad you found us here!
I am obsessed with these videos! Well done, keep them coming!
Thank you! Will do!
I cannot get enough of your videos. You are doing an extraordinary work in your videos, from being exceedingly informative about your topics/subjects, being very down-to-earth when presenting your information to us (some people talk too fast and have too much editing which makes them look fake and/or robot-like entities). And to top it all off, your background is just another level, which adds so much beauty, interest, and imagination for the viewers. You literally transport us into the era with all the imagery provided in your videos. Excellent work, sir! 💕👍
Incredibly kind comments, and I'm glad you appreciate our work so much! 😀 These are a ton of work, but fun at the same time. Totally worth the effort. Thanks again!
@@memoryfield I know your videos are time consuming, that is where the excellence come from. I have one request for you, do not ever change yourself or the way you are presenting these videos. You seem to be a very natural and likeable person. Thank you for being yourself, I love your manerisms 🙂
Ha ha, thanks. You're too kind. I do have my other moments though, just ask my wife. LOL.
@@memoryfield U know that we all have "other moments", that is what makes us humans. It is just that so many you tube-ers are too fake and too professional, lot's of them add loud and annoying background music, and on top of that, they portrey this ecstasy and talk fast ect. which just gives viewers a headache 🤕. So, it is very refreshing to see a normal person doing a normal video. It is so rare to see nowadays. People can recognize real from fake. Thank you, for being a normal person in your videos.
I know I am a little late to this series, but what a series it was. Amazing storytelling, accurate to a fault (!) and so wishing it could just go on and on and on!
Well, I just spent the last 2-3 days binge watching your series. Well made videos. Some stuff I knew about, but there was a lot of info that I didn't know. Good job, thank you for putting in the work to bring to us.
Thanks for a fantastic, hugely entertaining and engrossing series, Billy. You're a great storyteller, and I particularly appreciate your constant quest for the truth.
I also really appreciate the very humanistic, caring way he treats the subjects of his research...For many years, I had just written off the Manson Family, and even the victims, as being weird, peripheral flaky people of little consequence....but Billy has a way of bringing out my compassionate feelings for these unfortunate people. I am left with a deeper understanding of other people's complicated lives.
@@curbozerboomer1773 Well said! Thanks for adding this comment.
Cool cat
I have 3 Crosby, Stills and Nash
I've been watching your entire Laurel Canyon series this past month
As the child of a baby boomer, I was well educated with the music of the 60s especially the California Folk Rock scene
Very well made videos and informative.
Thanks, Jessica! So glad you found us and please keep watching. More to come!
@@memoryfield Looking forward 👍 peace ✌️🕊️
@@helmutsecke3529 Stupid comment. You've literally added nothing to the conversation.
Billy, this has been a fascinating series. I hope you continue with more stories.
That is definitely the plan. It just takes a while to collect data and footage for a documentary of this magnitude! LOL. :)
Excellent job on delving into Abigail's life, done in a very sensitive way. Those of us who have spent years researching the case can really appreciate it. Thanks.
Well said and thank you for your very kind comments!
What an incredible woman...thank you for sharing. May she rest in Peace.
Yes, agreed on all of that. No one deserves to go out like that.
This has been a wonderful series, probably the best i have seen on UA-cam. I've likened the series to a good book. When you are not reading it, or at work, or have just woken up, you are still thinking about and can't wait to get back to it. You missed Arthur Lee's old abode which was previously owned by actor Bela Lugosi but I will forgive you for that. May be I'll wait for the sequel. Thank you for your meticulous research and presentation.
I want to recommend that he zeroes in on the address 2850 Benedict Canyon Drive...the home there (that I believe was torn down a few years ago) was frequently rented out to famous people...Za Za Gabor once owned the house, as did Cary Grant...in the 60s, the Rolling Stones briefly rented it...later, in Sept-Oct of 1968, Jimi Hendrix was situated there, for a sort of "working" vacation...during that time, he crashed his blue Corvette, and then bought another Corvette, with the insurance money!..Lots of other recording artists visited him, and also recorded with him, at TTG studios in Los Angeles....there are some interesting stories of the activity at that address...and some photos on the Internet too!
As rich as her family was/is, I read that at the time of her death, her personal worth was quite marginal. Her assets consisted of a condo or apartment in San Francisco, a new car, and less than $20K in the bank. Her kindness and generosity spoke for her personality. So sad she died at such a young age.
Yes, very much agreed. She was set to inherit a massive fortune that she would have been granted, as it turned out, roughly eleven years after her own untimely death. But it does seem that she decided to live rather frugally, based on the amount of money she was already receiving from her family as a monthly allowance. For example, I wrongly assumed that she had just outright bought that house in Laurel Canyon, on Woodstock Road, with cash. I found out later that she was just renting it from the family that lived next door at the time. She had the money to do that, but she chose not to. Maybe she had no plans to stay there long term? Who knows. I have often wondered if she felt some sense of guilt and remorse that she was born into wealth and she had to prove to herself and everyone else that she was going to make her own way regardless of this fact.
@@memoryfield I know a couple of people who come from extremely wealthy families, and they seem to express some sort of guilt from it. They are both quite generous, and one of them volunteers his time at a soup kitchen, feeding the homeless
@@rollydoucet8909 this person you speak of is an example, that people can follow and be able to sleep at night, knowing they still contribute to society, regardless of where they came from. It's always where you're going that matters more.
@@memoryfield THERE WOULD BE A TRUST THAT BLED INTO HER ACCOUNT...20K is a lot of money in those days to have in bank.
From another source, apparently Mrs. LaBianca, who had worked as a waitress for years had considerable more assets at her death vs. Miss Folger, due to saving money and shrewd stock investments.
Abigail's mother Enez(?) volunteered at the Haight Ashbury Free Clinic.
This subject has always been one of interest to me. I'll get hooked on it for a few months, then leave it alone for a while. The more videos I watch, and the more I read, poor Sharon was surrounded by people that I feel put her life in danger. Why would Roman do this ? I also wonder why the Tates thought he was so awsome ? Thank you for your videos and research. Well done !!!
Just looked the character he chose to play in his film 'Chinatown' with Jack Nicholson. That litte tough guy that cut Jack's characters nose in the scene at the reservoir. And then look what he turned out to be(chomo)and he's still on the run.
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i was 18 years old when all of this went down, but where i lived, it was on the news, but not
really big news. wow! so much i never new! thanks for the series.
A Leo...Also did her grad paper on Christopher Marlowe.....Also was volunteering at Haight-Ashbury free clinic when Manson was in and out of there so she probably had met him before.
I love how you have many backgrounds throughout! It's like being there listening. You covered this in a respectful way. Got a new fan here!
Thank you for your very kind words and thanks so much for watching. We appreciate you and your comments! This subject was a difficult one to approach because we never wanted to lose sight of the fact that she was a real human and didn't deserve to go out like that. No one does.
Really enjoyed your entire Laurel Canyon series. I particularly enjoy your storytelling style and the deep research you do on the subject matter. Subscribed and looking forward to more great content!
Thank you so much! We do have a new series that just started a few days ago and we plan to keep adding to it as much and as quickly as we possibly can. Please come back and visit us here!
Superbly put together , captivating and very interesting indeed ! . . . .
Many thanks! Your comments are appreciated. Glad you found us here.
Billy, I just finished the entire series, and I'd just like to say, you and your crew did a great job! It was not just informative but very entertaining as well, keeping me eager to view the next episode. Weaving all the various story lines together to support the entire work - phenomenal! I grew to enjoy the instrumental versions of the songs when initially I was disappointed that you didn't play the originals, but I guess that had to be done anyway do to regs. Surprised however that you didn't mention Blue Jay Way, especially since it's obvious you're a great Beatles fan. Some ideas for future projects: 1) Topanga Canyon; 2) the differences between the San Fran and LA music scenes of the sixties. That was alluded to in a documentary I watched about Monterey Pop; 3) how and why the hippie dream rose - it's roots and the behind the scenes influencers and agitators, both foreign and domestic, to peak perhaps in '67 during the so-called Summer of Love, and then to come crashing down as evidenced by the Manson murders and Altamont in '69 - despite Woodstock. Best of health and luck to you, your family, and your crew!
I have recently been watching your Laurel Canyon episodes and have enjoyed them quite a bit. Thank you for your insight and investigation into gathering the correct information as it's much appreciated. Also, your instrument collection (guitars), pictures and memorabilia is fantastic!!!! Btw..Lizzie the cat rules!!
Thank you for such a captivating series. I enjoyed it so much.
You are so welcome!
So interesting and well put together- well explained in easy bites. I wish my teachers at school had been able ro put the matter across this well, thank you. Episode 9 ends so abruptly I felt like there must be another episode...?? Pls do an ending of sorts ....
I happened on to this website in my Neil Young, Bob Dylan, and Mommas and Papas feed. I saw the episode about Neil Young first and then Cass Elliott's life which I found so informative and emotionally touching. I knew nothing about Abigail Folger and find her story fascinating and can relate to very personally. I am a Jewish genealogist in my own family, not my husband's or our grandchildren's, and am 5th generation SF on my Mother's Mother's side and 4th gen on my other 3 sides. Abigail was my husband's age and I am 2 years younger. I was an Art History major in college also. I grew up with the Bransten (changed from German Jewish surname) children whose grandfather founded MJB Coffee in San Francisco. Many of the wealthiest families in SF, Jewish and not Jewish, had personal tragedies, and the Bransten children I grew up with, their father committed suicide. Many of the young adults my age from wealthy families in SF and the suburbs, became Anti War in college and then became hippies after they graduated, not using their degrees from UC Berkeley and Stanford and the State Universities, and got heavily into drugs.
Thank you so much, Jill, for sharing all of that personal information with us. We appreciate you being here and for your comments. Glad you found us and please come back anytime! Thanks for watching.
Art History?
Thanks for sharing! Your video is excellent. I’ve always wanted to know more about Abigail.
To echo the comments of others- she seemed kind, altruistic, idealistic, perhaps. It would be easy to get mixed up with drugs in late 60s L.A. Thank you for filling in so many details of her brief life.
I never knew Abigail Folger was trying to end her relationship with Roman's friend. Great information on all your you tube videos
Indeed, Folgers Coffee was about the “best” coffee in the ’50’s/‘60’s.
Have binged this whole series and have thoroughly enjoyed it…we want more please ✌️
How about a new series then? Just started last week! ua-cam.com/play/PLMGnMaveEzflBmzxiEulkEvqRFVutO0sw.html
The efficiency of your work is of the likes of never seen, Bravo, Mate...
Glad to hear that you liked it. Thanks for watching and thanks for your comments!
As a guy with a daughter, I can imagine how shocking and distressing it would be to find out who your daughter was, and how she lived her life, only after her cruel, horrific, senseless murder. To find out in such a crushing way that you didn't know your daughter, and you had no idea who she was, how she lived her life. That's going to hurt in a way that few things can. I've read extensively about what Manson and his so called family did. I normally do *not* read about such things, but this one seemed to demand it. You have put things together in such a way that I'm seeing it in a completely new light. My heart goes out to those people, and their families all these years later. You've made Steven Parent, Abigail Folger, and even the others you didn't mention, more human to me than they ever were before. Truly brilliant work. I hope you will do other series like these in the future. I've already suggested one I'd love to see, but I won't wear that out. I really enjoyed this series. This last week has seen some really unexpected changes, and this series has given me a place to land for a few days while I get accustomed to what's happened. Thank you.
Enjoyed the whole series, thank you , from Nottingham england
Oh, well that's pretty far away from all of us over here. Would love to get myself over there to the UK someday and do some documentaries on Bowie and Led Zep. Maybe also go to Manchester and talk about Joy Division/New Order and The Smiths. One day! Thanks for watching from Nottingham. :)
@@memoryfield loved the byrds and 60s laurel canyon sounds, also the interesting links to mansion, thank you again
@@memoryfield so many great musicians from that part of the world ♥️♥️♥️
Great series. Great job. We really enjyrf it! Many thanks!
Thanks, Len. We appreciate your comments and happy that you found us here!
Superb and fascinating documentary. Thanks for the great work 👍👍
And thank you for watching and for your comments!
Excellent video on Abigail
Thank you for the knowledge you have on Abigail.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching.
November must have been Laurel Canyon month - by chance.
Watched the Val Kilmer "Doors" movie 1st week - Didn't enjoy it that much but after several sittings I made it to the end.
Then was recommended a YT 2.5 hour video on the Music of Laurel C.
Rewatched "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" last week
& just finished watching your great series.
I have now got a PhD in Laurel Canyon goings on-:)
Thanks, Terry. We appreciate your comments and glad you found us here!
This is remarkable stuff!...New perspectives on an "old" subject...please continue to examine the social fabric of our strange, but wonderful society.
Love your videos - Thank you!
Thanks for watching!