Foreign Import Or American Made AK - Which To Buy?
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- At work, I am often asked which AK is the best, and which someone should buy. In this video, I compare 3 general classes/types of semi-AK models, comparing each and giving my 2 cents as to their Pros & Cons. Please keep in mind, these are just my opinions, so feel free to disagree. Heck, sometimes I even disagree with myself!
The first class of AK is the foreign built import. These are manufactured overseas in factories that were originally setup during the Cold War. So the rifles are usually built with old Soviet tooling and to Russian specs (for better or worse).
As an example, we have the Bulgarian Arsenal SAM7UF.
The second AK class is the kit build. These guns are assembled here in the USA using a mix of original military surplus parts, and several newly made American ones. Normally, the receiver and barrel and trigger group are US, with the rest being from demilled full-auto AK assault rifles.
Our example is a East German MPI-KM parts kit on a Nodak Spud receiver.
The final class is the '100% US Made' AK, which as the name says consists of rifles built entirely here from factory new parts.
For an example of this type, we have the Century Arms C39v2 Sporter.
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I wish Misha and Rob Ski would do an AK video together.
If that happened century arms, and palmetto state would be out of business
@@SSS-cp1op Why Palmetto? I've heard only good things from them, except for product not being in stock.
Palmetto state bought out DDI and made the major parts out of a cast, and didn’t change until a lawsuit from an injury cause by cast trunnion exploding, they did eventually switch to forged trunnions, the rear trunnions are still cast, and have had 2 come in the shop both with broke rear trunnion, there rivet quality is hit or miss, inter ordnance is by far the worst, with century arms a close second, and psa would be number 3 from the bottom of the quality, for the same money I’d buy a wasr 10, or a PAP, if a wasr or PAP can’t be found a lee armory would be next in my list as a first/budget rifle.
@@SSS-cp1op you’d buy a WASR 10 ? A century import . Hmm
I second that! That would be great 👍🏻
As a magnetic particle inspector at a Foundry that casts some of the most valuable maritime castings for the Navy's CVN and VCS programs, I can tell you that even after years of experience our foundry still has issues from time to time. Once, a coworker told me he had just bought an I.O. and I told him that the casted trunnions were prone to cracking, to which he seemed surprised. Later that day he looked at a small casting (just a bit bigger than the front trunnion) and noticed how many cracks and indications were on the product. Needless to say, he learned a lesson that day. (he hasn't mentioned his time bomb gun recently, I suspect it may have failed him)
Just have him buy a used kit trunnion and have a builder rebuild it, preferably with new rivets. Will cost more, but it will work. No one will buy it otherwise.
Dustin- that is pitiful. Just pitiful. 😧
These are the Ak's that I have:
WASR-Made in Romania
NPAP fixed stock and DF-Made in Serbia
Vepr-Made in Russia
Vepr 12-made in Russia
Arsenal SAM7R-made in Bulgaria
Circle 11 rifle which was built by JBI Armory in Texas from a 60's military parts kit on a Childers Polish receiver and an FB Radom CHF CL barrel.
I agree, nothing beats a good ol' fashioned Combloc Ak.
Thank you for watching, cheers.
Which one is the best
What no address? Lol
now that the imports are pretty much gone, I would like to see you re make this video after the mess that is 2020
Only zastava and some polish ones come through
@@jaobyeden4143 i just picked up an arsenal this week
@@danvitty5442 how much it it go for now?
You can get a Zastava pap m70 really high quality Serbian import still
you’re not wrong. The main three you will see are WBP, Century, and Zastava. Quite unfortunate tbh. Get them while you can gentlemen I fear the end is coming for the imports within the next decade
By far the most informational firearms channel out there, love this channel and I always learn something new, thanks man keep it up!!!!! My first AK was a RAS47 and I sold it within a month for an import lol
Thanks much for watching, and no fears we have several videos already recorded and/or planned for the near future. We'll revisit the AK every week or two too, as we have several related projects. One is a look at mag and pouch variations....kind of nerdy but was a lot of fun to make.
Then you've got dipshits like nutnfancy calling it the "gold standard"
your videos are top notch content. thank you and your people for doing what you do.
Thank you much for watching.
I've watched nearly every UA-cam video on AK's and this was by far the most informative and interesting video on the history of AK's in America and the best recommendaion so far! I'm now a subscriber and am going to watch more of Mishaco's videos. Bravo! Thank you sir!
Thank you, glad you found it useful, cheers.
You seem to have put real time, and effort into educating yourself on soviet, and eastern European military arms. Your video's are like a mini college lecture series. Well done!
Misha, I'd just like to say your channel is BY FAR one of the most informative on UA-cam. I've watched all your various AK videos and an still learning new things. Keep it coming, man.
Thanks for watching, and we have several more AK videos either recorded or planned. And when it does cool off here in a couple months, we'll be back out to the range more often too.
Miiichaaaacha!!! Your info is the most complete of any other. Thanksgivings to you. Love your professionalism. Thanks to you, from DELL RUTHERFORD .
~I own an Arsenal SAM7SF and a Century Arms VSKA AK Rifles. Both are great Rifles, IMO.
~My next AK will be a PSA GF3 that I hope to buy later this year.
~I'm 70 and crippled. I expect the VSKA to last much longer than I will.
Thank you for taking the time to make these videos, I’m just getting into ak rifles and I don’t want to buy twice! Being on a budget and wanting a range gun, I think the WASR may be my best bet, I just want a gun that works, not as concerned with aesthetics. Thanks again!
For 99% of people, the WASR is just the best option for their first AK, period.
I love my WASR! It’s got it where it counts and the fact the finish is a little rough on the exterior just encourages me to run it hard and treat it like an Ak instead of a safe queen
Prepare to buy twice, you can’t have to many
I love Ak . And in my country I have a good collection too and I understand them aswell but I love to say . You have a good knowledge about ak. Good work brother
Mishaco I enjoy every one of your videos thank you , i I finally got my first ak and is a mak 90
Nice! My first was a wasr10 and 2nd yugo m70ab2 underfolder with the grenade gas system shut off/grenade sight. The yugos have built in night sights that flip up front and rear. Most of the time you'll have to replace the tritium but you can do that with a paperclip. And it's relatively cheap if you can find them. I hope you find this interesting. Most Npap and Opap guns have had the night sights removed but can be reinstalled. Btw the Mak90 is a wonderful firearm
Well the rear sight you can definitely install the tritium with paperclip but idk about the front sight. There's a UA-cam video on that
Great demonstration of AK knowledge, thank you for your content.
Thank you for watching
You are a wealth of knowledge. My experiences with AKs since 1986 match yours exactly
Very informative video.
I've had many discussions on the AK forums about U.S. vs CommBloc AK's and have stated many of the same points you have.
There are many things I buy that I would only buy U.S. made. The AK is not one of them. CommBloc AK's only for me. Even if the U.S. made AK's improve, they'll never have the AK history that is built into CommBloc AK's. Even the newer import AK's still have the military DNA that makes the AK what it is.
Hey, if you want to buy a U.S. made AK, it's your money, but don't claim it has the same pedigree that CommBloc AK's have. What you bought is essentially a facsimile of an AK.
sheehy933 Couldn't agree more.
Yep, pretty much. Thanks for watching & feel free to repost this video on the forums or where ever. I've signed up a few times, but in the end I just run out of time and never post on them.
Love these videos. Would love to see you do company specific reviews. Like you input on various makers specifically and focused just on them
Im buying a parts kit build off your recommendation. Thank you, you are my new favorite youtube channel
This video answered many questions I had especially about the C39v2. I was glad to hear that its Bolt & Bolt Carrier are forged and not cast.
There was also a couple of items he was wrong about. The barrel is chrome lined and, the wood is walnut not beech.
What a fine under folder! The by way you handled that gun, it was easy to tell that was a special piece.
I was originally going to get a RAS47 as my first AK, but between watching this channel and AK Operators Union, I made a more informed decision and got a WASR instead and I'm very happy with it. I wanted a 5.45 companion to go with it so I got an FM VEPR before the sanctions took place and I'm so glad I did. Thank you so much for uploading such quality content for those of us that enjoy AK rifles.
That's truely great to hear. You won't regret your WASR and VEPR I am sure.
I have an Arsenal SA M-7, milled and about 15 years old, a fantastic AR.
The SA M-7 vs SAM7 thing has lead to a lot of confusion over the years...thanks Arsenal lol.
Excellent point with the AR at the end. You want a cheap accurate rifle that you can actually build in your garage? Get an AR.
You wouldn’t buy a Combloc AR
Don’t buy western AKs.
Build an AR, lmfao. Kids can put Legos together, AR rifles are Lego kits. Pressing barrels, gas blocks and sight blocks and driving rivets, that's building a rifle.
@@TheRoadhammer379 I guess that's why AR's BECAME so popular now!!
If an AK is not manufactured by a former com block state, it's not an AK...period.
Who would have thought that AK's would be one day built in the US. Seriously, the world is upside down!
This channel is so informative, thank you Mishaco, without forgetting your cat.
I guess its revenge for AR15s being made in China and now even Russia?
Neptune Bluez gotta love capitalism dude, and America's obsession with quality I feel will make the USA a prominent AK manufacturing country.
im with you getting a US AK is like having chucky cheese fill in for mickey mouse at disney world, if I get a AK I want the real deal!!
Neptune Bluez I agree I'm not an elitist normally but with aks if it's not comblock foreign made its just a replica of an ak. Sorry but its true it's like having a 1968 charger made in China nope not having it not the same and you couldn't pay me to own one.
So a Glock not made in Austria is not a Glock?
Hi. I'm really enjoying your very comprehensive AK videos.
I picked up a WASR10-63, priced at $499, a few years ago, with all the 'goodies' - oil-can, tool-kit, cleaning-rod, leather sling, 2 mags, and most important, the bayonet.
Then went home and proceeded to read and watch videos about crappy WASR 10s.
Fortunately there were other positive reviews that relieved my attack of buyers remorse.
The only 'flaws' with mine were the puny wood stock (probably American according to your video) and a slightly canted sight - which I found was not an issue on my first trip to the range. In fact I did surprisingly well using iron sights on my first time shooting this AK.
Meanwhile, I picked up a Tapco AR type adjustable stock and pistol-grip set for $25.
Then a friend got me a small Tapco brake/recoil-suppressor that still allows the bayonet to be used, and my brother gave me a black polymer fore-end kit to match the Tapco stock.
My big splurges for it have been a scope bracket for the side-mount, and a recent purchase of a Magpul-Zhukov folding and adjustable stock. I've seen some good reviews on the Zhukov. What's your opinion? I haven't tried the new stock at the range yet.
Happy Holidays, Mark D.
Sorry to disappoint, I am not a big fan of Magpul. There's nothing wrong with their products, they do polymer stuff right for sure. It is just that I am a classic steel + wood guy, so dont like putting polymer furniture on my AKs. When i do use it, i always put on original Comblock military stuff. I am not interested in the USA commercial accessories market.
Incredibly thorough AK information explained in a no nonsense fashion...
Thank you Mishaco!
Thank you for watching
Should change this guy's name to "Encyclopedia"!
Incredibly well composed and informative.
I just discovered this channel, and your depth of knowledge on the AK pattern rifle is astounding. I'm trying to find more educational firearms content, because the history and technical details are much more interesting to me than just watching some goofy dude shooting in the woods. Thank you for the great content. I will be on the lookout for your videos from now on.
Very,VERY WELL ARTICULATED AND PRESENTED!!!
You answer questions & queries to the “nth” degree that other “experts” simply gloss over. I can’t thank you enough Misha for your knowledgeable & unbiased opinions.
Merry Christmas 🎄🎁!!!
Thank you very much, sorry a bit late in responding.
Misha ....you are a treasure trove of knowledge.. 👍🏻..it AMAZES me at how much you truly know...keep up the great videos brother ✌🏻
Everyone should buy an Arsenal 107R while they can. I can't get one in Commiefornia, but I'm happy with my blacklisted VEPR lol
Thanks for watching, and yes the SLR name/series has been banned in California for nearly a decade now sadly.
California is a state, therefore not a Communist. You guys just will never get the term correctly.
@@gringoamigo8146 they're Communist in their bans and regulations.
@@RPGGunman Thanks for proving my statement. Did you miss the part where there's no state in Communism? Believe it or not, it's the opposite. Under Communism, every worker is encouraged to be armed to protect themselves against Capitalist oppressors. It's the damn liberals who want to take your guns, not Communists or Socialists.
@@gringoamigo8146 Go look up Communist countries like Cuba and China. You can't have guns at all. California acts like and wants to be its own Communist country. They constantly violate Federal immigration laws by giving sanctuary to all illegal aliens, even killers like Luis Bracamontes, Garcia Zarate, and Gustavo Arriaga. Its leaders oppose civilians owning guns and have done everything they can to make it as difficult as possible to own one in California. Only Federal laws and SCOTUS are stopping them from outright bans on civilian firearm ownership.
Thank you , great channel , always informative and much appreciated. cheers.
Thank you for watching
Looking forward for a video comparing all American made AKs, including the palmetto AK
Great critique! Keep em coming my friend!!
The guys on AK Files really liked this video.
Glad to hear....i really need to get some time and post over there. I even have a membership, but never have had time/energy to log in...really need to do so. I am working on a few builds and projects this summer. I'll post them over there when complete.
These videos are absolutely fascinating! What a great job and a wealth of information. I wish you offered consultation on purchasing an AK.
It's not just the inclusions but that is an issue. Forged parts wear harder and handle impacts better than cast parts due to the grain structure following the shape of the part as a result of the forging process.
Makes perfect sense, thanks.
Lot of good information. TY. I have a C39V2 from 2018 with magpul, still never used yet. Learned some stuff today. Makes sense.
The IWI Galil Ace is a awesome AK47 variant. It comes with the coolest features out of the box..
Another great video,
Thank you
My Romanian WASR may not be a beauty, but I’m pretty sure it won’t let me down when I need it
I think I am on board with you, at least on the same page. Don't go to a hamburger Shoppe looking for a hotdog and vice-versa I want the history of a Ak, same as milsurp pistols .i really enjoyed your post. Thanks Frank
Well done !. Very good, factual info about U.S. vs Import . Agree 100 percent !. This may help folks new to the AK platform -thank you !
Thank you for watching, cheers.
Your presentation is always, Wow!
Interesting history info. Glad I got mine when I did, wish a few more of them had stuck to my fingers along the way.🤠 Gotten quite expensive along the way, if I was starting out now I'd probably just go with Colt or Daniel Defense AR15's... for the money they can't be beat, and all pieces-parts are widely available. 🤑 Heck, even an SKS- if you can find one nowadays, with strippers, is no slouch in 7.62x39. The days of cheap AKs and ammo are long gone. Sorely missed.
I recently picked up a blemished PSAK GF3 MOEKOV version for $650. I'm happy with it. It has worked flawlessly so far after about 400 rounds. Just from the pictures, I could tell the wood on the WASR was garbage, so it was out for me. The milled AK's don't appeal to me mostly due to their weight. I am betting that the PSAK lasts well over 10k rounds actually. I would not be surprised if Palmetto upped the specs from original Russian AK specs, simply because most soviet made stuff in my experience is low quality/sloppily made with slack tolerances, etc. Quality was not their priority in producing the AK. Rather, price was. So I don't put as much trust in the combloc manufacturing as some people do. The quality looks good all around. I like my uncanted sights. Feels good to shoot and operates well. The only thing I don't like about it is that it's not a true combloc from the country of design, use, etc. Instead of that I get an "everymans' AK" vibe from my PSAK that is also cool but in a different way. Modern. I like that it was cheap and works awesome even more than my more expensive/nicer guns. Really nice magazines compared to my others too; smooth. After I've spent another 9600 rounds or about $4k on ammo, I will know if my $650 was well spent or a waste of money I guess.
thanks for sharing all that knowledge, you are certainly a historian in AK as you are in many weapons history without any doubt outstanding thanks again
Awesome explanation of it all. I respect the imports more myself as well.
friggin phenominal video. super informative . you are a bountiful source of badass weaponry. thankyou so much
I prefer firearms that are from the nation of origin as they have the genuine history and value thus superior quality :)
except finnish mosins are built to a higher quality than Russian ones, but I agree with you for the historical value
Thanks for you Opinion. I feel the same. Us made ak's look pretty hanging on the wall of a gun shop and will entice a lot of gun newbs. Funny how a 10 year old wasr 10 with a canted front sight is more desirable than a brand spanking new ras47 right now.
Originals are always more desirable in the long run.
great channel, very informative...... just one thing I want to point out, the Chinese type 56 is not a reverse engineering AK, it was part of Soviet aid package to China including blueprints and machines before the relationship went south later.
The original Type 56 yes, it was licensed and supported. However later versions on stamped receivers? Those receivers were reverse engineered.
Very informative video, should be quite helpful as I consider how to upgrade my AK collection. Nice cats, too.
Outside of complete 'imports', if you want a VG quality AK get a parts kits from someplace like Apex (like an M70B1), then get a good US receiver (like NDS or Childers), then sent it off to a good builder like Two Rivers and you'll get the closest thing to a military quality AK. Places like Century (not counting their true imports) who make '100%' US AK's are going to be the lowest quality non-military spec AK. Making an AK using commercially made US parts based on cost is most likely going to get you a either a soft or brittle cast trunion or bolt and out of spec parts. I used to build AK's when the kits were cheap and came with barrels, but my last two were Apex kits and I scrounged original barrels (M70B1 and M72 B1) and sent them both to Two Rivers and got back two excellent quality Yugo AK's...IMO this it the way to go for most in the US who want a VG AK. It costs a bit more than buying a 'US' AK off the shelf, but you will not have issues like soft or hard parts where it matters most including better wood and good cosmetics due to TRA's excellent build and finish quality combined with mil-spec parts from the kit.
I'm new to the AK platform your videos are great.very informative.thanks
I'm sure American stuff will get better over time. In addition, dont know how many imports will be available in the future. As of now Arsenal and WASR have positive reviews in many forums. C39v2 is frowned upon.
I have a Century CV 39 V2 and I love it runs flawlessly!
Your Knowledge Of Ak’s is Unparalleled Misha 😊😀😊
The C39V2 does have a chrome lined barrel. The wood on the C39V2 is walnut, not beech. The receiver is milled from 4140 steel. Easy research
thanks dude for what you do...great info ...love the history of guns...cheers
Thank you very much for watching,
Please don't stop doing what you are doing thankyou
great vid bro as usual, the only usa made ak i would buy would be a rifle dyanmics or definative arms variant, other than that i would only buy a arsenal or a chi com ak if the price was attainable.
Don't those companies often start with some kind of import rifle as the base?
I can see Misha's point as to the quality inconsistency of cast parts and the c39v2 in general versus other AK manufacturers/builders. I haven't been into AK's all that long either, but I do own a c39v2 and just purchased a WASR 10 along with some sweet mil surp Romanian furniture with the dong to go with it before they're gone.
I've got around 3,500 rounds through my c39v2 and have seen no problems whatsoever with anything on it so far. I bought one before doing the research back in the first sandy hook scare...I would say that I learned my lesson on that, but again I don't have any complaints so far on the c39v2 other than it didn't come with a cleaning rod, or cleaning kit in the stock. I kind of feel like I got robbed on that one.
I also have no complaints on the wood so far either. But, I've only gone hunting with it for a season and shot it around my property doing a few training exercises. I haven't been into combat with it, nor have I done any really heavy shooting with it (Ala AKOU) ....I shoot pretty fast for a semi auto but I don't just smoke the gun. Overall, I'm still not sure if it's exactly a chrome lined barrel either....the specs say chrome moly whatever that is....I'm inclined to think it's marketing jargon.
However overall, I've been happy with my purchase because it's been reliable, very accurate, and I haven't had any problems out of it so far.....doesn't mean I'm not watching it and checking it for problems after all the negative things I've heard about it's manufacture. I've also been looking for others who are ahead of me in round count...so if you have one keep sharing. Keep doing videos. It's the only way to get the manufacturer to make their product better and keep them honest. I haven't tested it for head space yet, but again I'm not seeing any deformities on the rails or the bolt group. So, I have no reason to believe the head spacing would be out of whack at all either.
I'm looking forward to comparing the two......the wasr is on the way.
I would like to speak with you sometime. Thing is, the C39v2 wasn't out yet right after the Sandyhook thing. Are you positive that is what you have? Also, the C39v2 does not have the space for a cleaning rod under its barrel or a trapdoor in its stock for a cleaning kit. Is it at all possible that you might have something different like the Century 1960 Sporter?
Please email me at thetwin1202@yahoo.com and i'll give you my contact info if you'd like to call me. I thought there was some way to send someone a private message on youtube. I thought there used to be anyway. But, apparently I'm missing it or it's not there any more.
Misha, I checked my receipt and it's dated February 2015. I was thinking it was much earlier than that, but I think I'd been looking at the C39 way before that and had decided to wait for the v2. So, since July 2015 I've puchased 3 1,000 round cases of ammo and I'm about halfway through the most recent case. If you'll provide me an email address I'll send some pics at the same time I'm sending some to AK Operators Union.
I appreciate your VIDEOS!!
Love the in depth videos thanks for doing what you do.
Thank you for watching.
Finnish Rk-62. I think if your buying a gun you should buy it from the country the gun was designed in. Unless it's an improved special variant like the Rk-62.
Unfortunately, Valmet and SAKO haven't made an AK in over 20 years.
I hear what you’re saying about the years of experience making AK-47s however I think you are not giving American craftsmanship credit for the awesome quality that we as Americans can produce
I have C39V2 got 3000 rounds through it and still running fine
A wonderful informative video. Great information!!!! THANK YOU!!!!
thank you,
Misha is right! The casting process left micro pockets of air and sometimes micro fractions in the material. But most of all through the forging process the steel is compressed (micro pockets of air and possible fractions disappear) and made stronger and more durable.
Thank you for adding that information.
I have several combloc. I have a saiga and bought 2 of the 1.5mm Vepr when they came out. I did not know they would skyrocket in price. that being said. The Vepr is a ass kicking build. I have no problem with running one or two cans through them. I just wish I had bought up all I could find at the time for 850-950. I have the new 12 gauge Vepr and have not seen the appreciation like the rifles. I think there were more produced. anyone know?
Thank you for teaching the public about the AK 47.
Rifle Dynamics is probably the only 100% us made rifle I would trust my life to.
The amount of information is amazing. No USAk for me
His info is a little outdated. PSAK47 is good to go.
I dont doubt that PSA puts together a good AK, i have a upper from them and it is pretty damn good considering what i paid for it. I do think his points about the way the imported rifles are made, where they are made and the qc they go through, makes the decision for me. He raised very good points, for which i never considered
@@HardHeadMilitary I actually have a sam7uf for the cool factor but my daily driver is the psak. Worlds apart quality wise but I dont feel bad about beating on the psak.
Jorge Vespucci im looking into the Ak, i do not own one. I like the history and authenticity of the imports. I would second look PSA for an american made. I would choose it over century
I purchased some rifles from a small company out of Vegas, ABC rifle. I just want to plug them real quick, customer service is impeccable. I cancelled a bear creek arsenal order solely on customer service. I purchased with ABC, and it was shipped the next day.
Had to show them some respect on that, because after 2 weeks and over a grand out with Bear Creek we couldnt even get an email response about the FFL transfer
Wow that really means a lot hearing you say the C39 is good. I heard mixed reviews but I'll get one now with full confidence if you say it's g2g.
C39 v2 will do everything the other aks will do. But he is right we don't know if it will last. But have not had a problem out of the two I own. The only difference I notice is a slight pitch in tonality when shooting, or just that it's typically heavier than the European, if left in traditional format.
So pretty much buy imported AK's. I've been very happy with my 107-11 and 104-FR. Nice video sir!
Yep, pretty much. Honestly, there doesn't seem to be any benefit to a US made AK, and its not as if they are priced much if any lower than imports either. Quality kit builds are still good options too.
I have a century arms centurion. Milled AK made in US. It’s phenomenal
6:16 hopefully this is changing. The newest generation PSA AK's are putting on a pretty darned good showing.
@Shapiro Shekelberg I've bought one since I posted this and I've got about 1200 rounds through it now. Not a single hiccup except when I removed the expansion chamber. I put on a Griffin Armament 5/8x24 adapter and it'll feed reliably with it attached and it suppresses like a total DREAM. This is the best AK I've ever shot, thus far. I've got pretty high hopes for it, though. She's flawless and fantastic. Absolutely a candidate for SBR'ing.
I got a USA gun as my first Ak, it was cheap for a ak so that’s the main reason I got it. Definitely okay for a first ak but import is definitely the way to go.
Surprised you didn't use a Norinco made AK, VEPR or Izhmash... once again, a very informative video with tons of information. Hate to say it, but I love my C39V2... Thanks again.
Norinco really wouldn't be fair as that's a banned gun and from the past. Didn't use a Molot as we have several other videos about VEPRs, so didn't want to over use them.
DDI used forged trunnions on their American-made rifles. Some may have had a cast rear, I don't remember, but they definitely had forged fronts.
Sure, many US builders have used forged trunnions. I didn't say otherwise. However, many of the cheaper guns such as the RAS47 and I.O., they were built with cast.
Good video, thanks for the information on the matter.
Thanks for watching
I have 4 ak pattern guns.
1st one i got was my g kit build mad by citizen armory out of mexico mo . I have owned it since 2009 and put over 10k rounds through it only problems have been with loose fitting mags. I love this gun !
2nd is my mak90 i really like it have not shot near as much but the trigger and action in much smother .
3rd is a saiga 12 shotgun i converted it my self. I have had great reliability and it has a very tuff finish .
4th is my veper ak74fm side folder 5.45 i really like this gun its very accurate but being built on the rpk thicker stamping is a lot heaver than my others ans also is a few inches longer .
i am looking at getting the new wbp fox 7.62x39 rifle before some thing happens and price goes through the roof .
thank you for all history and insight !
To me the us guns have no appeal they look and feel cheap and are not as interesting because they don't have any history or military background.
p.s i just subed great channel watched 4hrs of your vids today lol . keep up the outstanding work !
I have a c39v2 pistol one of the best aks i have ever had accuracy reliability
That has been said for years that the Soviet made or eastern bloc made firearms they’re not accurate down to the size of a 50 Cent peace like American made products their theory is simply to get a bullet into the target even if you don’t kill the target because it takes 2 to 4 other men to pull the wounded person out there for taking Man off the battlefield the American attitude is dead nuts zero so when we shoot a target it goes down it’s done
@@bwana3006 on wich western propaganda channel have you heard this shit.
The rule is simple every gun kills if you're a great shot, every gun wounds if you're a normal shot snd every gun is useless if you're a terrible shot.
@@User-dc6sm does the same hold true for rocks? God didn’t blame the rock. It was the rock in Cains hand that killed his brother. Cain killed his brother not the rock. So of he had missed, is the rock useless?
@@bwana3006 its useless for the person who can't aim
DDI seemed to be on the right track, but Palmetto State Armory took care of them. Krebs would be nice, as long as it's not a rebuilt Century AK. Looks like Rifle Dynamics or Definitive Arms. Many complete U.S. made builds have heat treat issues, that they still can't seem to get right.
To be fair, DDI was already struggling before PSA came along.
My ddi is 1 Moa rifle, very happy with it . Paid 549 on gunbroker out of business sale price
Thoughts on the PSAK-47? They tested well just about everywhere.
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@@fixanypc They actually aren't, probably the best American made AK. PSA is owned by FN
PSA is not owned by FN. It's owned by JJE capital holdings out of South Carolina and has nothing to do with Fabrique Nationale d'Armes de Guerre other than the fact that the manufacturing facilities are close by and allows them to facilitate rapid production at quantity and cost efficiency.
I’m in love with my gap39sb my first Ak variant purchase. Galil Ace
@WEST TENNESSEE HOMESTEAD mine has held up pretty well and they are said to be of good quality by many people that know AK'S. The piston doesn't look like a Com-bloc but it still works after untold rounds. I think the piston,fire control group and furniture is US made to be 922r compliant but the rest is Romanian.
My first three choices are
Zastava, WASR and WBP, these days.
You should do an update video on this subject, especially with the market nowadays (the slowing down of imports, prices nowadays and the fact that PSA and Kalashnikov USA has stepped their game up)
Shall not be infringed, thanks Micheal your the king of AK knowledge 💖💥
MAC and the AK Operators union have two c39v2 rifles with chipping and cracking on the locking surfaces in the receiver among other issues. That is very recent content from them. My c39v2 is a little over a year old with only about 700 rounds through it ..There is some minimal deformation in some areas on the bolt and carrier, but nothing spectacular....I am considering replacing them with a polish bolt and carrier. The gun is a smooth and accurate shooter though...As you say, the longevity is questionable at this point....Hopefully Century can get it right, but their reputation is sure suffering just now...I do think I'd have been better off with an import.
You know most likely you can't just drop in a new bolt like an AR15 and have it head-spaced properly. Press the barrel and repin it. Just a friendly FYI
I understand this is a concern.. I was able to get a Polish Radom made bolt carrier for milled AK, and used a new manufacture WBP bolt to try it...Headspaced just fine. Will not close on the no-go guage. The only issue is that at the rear most end of travel the bolt carrier lifts off the rails...this was remedied with a recoil buffer...The rifle runs great in this configuration. I understand that using a buffer is less than ideal, but it works great. The old polish bolt carrier is of immaculate quality, truly a beautiful piece. Hopefully the WBP bolt is better made than the century bolt...The whole point of the experiment is to see if I can avoid the rifle chewing itself apart.
Mr. Winchester I just switched my bolt and carrier as well, fits perfect.
Great gun lecture. There should be credits for your class!
Great explanation. Thanks a lot!
I can tell Century Arms mainly sell for profit because they are the only ones that have AKs available in California but this makes me question the quality of both Century and Arsenal. What else did Arsenal skimp on if they can't just put on a $10 grip and $10 thread protector on their AKs to make them California legal?
Great solid points misha, and I agree with everything. I'll never own a U.S. ak, airsoft guns compete with them lol.
To be fair, many who buy them really only want them for much the same reasons as Airsoft in the first place.
Ozark Bear Arms lol very true
Hey Misha how about an updated video with all the new American brands and AK's available to us now?? How do you feel about the new Kalashnikov USA's kr-103???
I love my all American Arsenal SA-M 7r. The best Ak I have ever shot and made right in Vegas by Arsenal.
Those are actually made in Bulgaria, just imported and made 922r compliant in Vegas by Arsenal Inc.
What about psak47 ?