Sensible Secondhand Classics: 2005 Jaguar XJ8 3.5 Sport Premium (X350) - Lloyd Vehicle Consulting
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Welcome to Sensible Secondhand Classics, the series where we take a sensible classic car worth between £1000 and £5000 and put it through its paces in a very straightforward manner! This time we test a 2005 Jaguar XJ8 3.5 Sport Premium (X350), one of the best value secondhand luxury cars on sale at the moment. Join us as we discuss valet keys, extra space, a smooth driving experience, early touch screens and wood on the interior and generally experience little of any consequence at all. Nothing untoward then!
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As an independent vehicle consultant, I take potential buyers through the whole car buying process from choosing a make and model to a vehicle handover and road tax. In addition to information on this service, I also have a selection of written and video reviews of cars that I have owned, hired, borrowed or have somehow come into my possession. Please use the Contact Me page on my website to get in touch, visit my Facebook page for latest updates and share this video if you like it! Thank you for watching.
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Your comment "most agreeable" is so apt. I am almost drooling. There is nothing like a nice Jaguar.
Glad you enjoyed it, sir! It certainly was rather nice, must say...
I have owned various Jags for over 25 years and have two X350's in my garage at the moment. A very beautiful racing green V6 sovereign and a V8 XJR in black with red leather.Both cars are very different but a joy to drive in different ways.
To those who worry about maintenance costs, I have found that if you buy a reasonably good one and keep on top of preventative service and maintenance then costs can be no more than a family saloon. They are inclined to eat bushes but there is a wealth of knowledge on the web to enhance any amateur mechanics skillset and confidence when trying to tackle many issues.
I do quite like pre-2010 Jaguars, and this one was very nice. The owner still has it, from what I understand. As you say, and this goes for any Jaguar, you need to find a reasonably good one to start off with (there are some really rough ones out there for not much money), and then they can be OK to run. British Racing Green is very much to my taste... Thank you very much indeed for watching and commenting!
Rust points aside. The XJ of yesteryear shape ending herein with this Alu bodied example needs to be embraced. I feel sad thinking the future will have no classic saloons. A lot of SUVs and well, not a lot less. I’m even starting to cry the Focus is gone. The focus. The focus. We live in England. The Focus is going. What’s going on with the world. It’s totally bat s&it electric crazy. Apologies for my rant.
I agree with you, it's a very sinister world we live in these days, absolutely nothing to do with saving the planet, it's about control, Remember when they called David Icke crazy.
@@paulie-Gualtieri. ha. I very much do. London Real. Et al. We get old. We get mellow. We detest governance inept control and lies. And. Well. Like. Old cars. !!!!
Unfortunately the golden era of cars which for me was the 80s and 90s are sadly behind us. Its very sad that all you see nowadays are horrible bloated SUVs powered by down sized eco engines or even worse hybrid or electric which are designed to appease the politicians and Greta Thunberg brigade rather than the keen driver.
@@mrdoofa9357 oh no. You’ve just ruined my day. Greta. The memory. Oh no. You’ve taken away my childhood. I should be in school but instead I’m here shouting
Your rant, sir, seems to have been popular with the channel viewers over the last couple of days, sir.
I own a 3.0 V6 X350. This is my hobby, weekend car. For the price, there is not much out there that can match the quality of the interior, performance or feel good factor. Yes, they use more fuel than a bog standard ford or vauxhall . These cars can be picked up for around 5 grand for a decent one. They are cheap to insure, road tax is only £1 per day in the UK. They turn heads everywhere, and are a pleasure to drive. The 3.0 is not fast, but it's quick, and can still out perform some of the so called hot hatches of its era. The car was around £42500 in 2003.Today it would cost over £85000 if it were new.
Thank you for watching, glad you enjoyed the video! These are most certainly incredibly good value for what they are.
Most agreeable MR Lloyd, these are definitely becoming more and more desirable, like any old Jaguars, it matures with age. As for the Ford keys the first, Jaguar to have it was the XJ40, when Ford originally paid $2.5 billion for Jaguar in 1989. Then steadily improved the quality over the years. Late XJ40s were very well sorted cars, and gave a good platform to the X300 and what followed, before this all new model.
We did like the X350, sir! The XJ40s did get a lot better towards the end from what I understand. The X300 and X308 are most agreeable, I must say.
The Ford key dates back to the mk3 Granada back in 85. I remember a lot of fuss about it in the brochure my dad had when he was thinking of buying one. He ended up buying one of the last mk2’s. Another excellent video as always.
I can smell that MK3 grannie from here. The classic car show in Nov NEC is about the interior smell as much as the body paintwork
Glad you both enjoyed the video! I did sixteen parts at the NEC in November, so I remember all those smells very well too.
Jaguars are such beautifully designed and thoughtfully appointed luxury cars from the humble X Type ( yes a proper Jaguar) to the Daimler Super 8.
The drive and ride is easy and comfortable.
Yet they are very different to Mercedes Benz, BMW, Lexus and Audi because of their traditional interior and character .
They are also blessed with a range of fabulous engines.
I did like this X350, sir, and Senor Latorre keeps it in excellent condition. It is a shame that there never really was a Rover to rival this, but I like it very much regardless.
As a 20 year old with a Rover 45 and a Triumph herald, I lusted after one of these. And 3 weeks ago I bought a 3.0 XJ6 from 2003 and I love it. It’s less to insure than the 45 too…
Well, my 45 V6 is around £280 a year to insure these days with 6,000 business miles, so maybe I should get one of these X350s myself as well from that point of view! May have a Herald coming up on the channel soon too.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting At 19, insuring a 1.6 rover 45 was rather pricey compared to if I was older. But the jag a year on suits me down to the ground… Additionally, it’ll get the same if not better mpg than the KV6 with more BHP! Will look forward to the Herald content. If you want a 13/60 to look at I have one.
@@georgeplayingguitar , I mean, I could buy one of these, but they are a bit big for me, and the 45 V6 is at least relatively straightforward to service (ridiculous cambelts service aside), and I have been getting 31-32 MPG recently, so it has improved a bit, and with about 53 still taxed on the road, they remain extremely rare, so if I sold mine, I would probably not find another. I think the Herald I have been offered is also a 13/60.
The 3 box Jags are all great looking cars and I would love to drive one. Preferably one from the 60's to the 90's.
Oh, Simone, if you can get hold of one, then it is definitely worth it. I drove an earlier one of these about a year ago, and it was superb too.
"Don't touch the Valet button" ... what the valet button does is to lock the glove compartment and the boot but leaves all other doors, etc, unlocked. ... simple action for unlocking the Valet button is to press the "unlock doors" button on the keyfob. Simples.
Well, it all went horribly wrong on the day, as is usual for this channel....
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Oh dear Mr Lloyd ... very unusual for reliable Jaguars, post Ford involvement.
The reason I was able to give you a couple of answers is because I've owned Jaguar XJ6's and XJ8's for the last 25 years. During this time I have been so very impressed with everything about them ... their reliability, their smooth and quiet running, their looks, their quality and their overall impression and luxury when put against almost any other car on the road.
Even today, I get so many compliments from friends and colleagues and even strangers that come up to me and say things like "They're the most beautiful cars Jaguar ever made" (even though mine has 174,000 miles since 2004)
I have done an X300 and an X308 on the channel as well, and should have an XJ40 coming up fairly soon, so I am beginning to know these XJs quite well. As with large Volvos (of which I have driven many and owned a C70 T5 Coupé), they seem to suffer from very heavy depreciation, hence many are in Sensible Secondhand Classics territory (except probably most X358s and all X351s), and people don't necessarily look after them very well at this sort of value. They do need to be looked after well, like anything else which was designed for a well-heeled clientele, and so I am sure that they can be very good, but there are lots of bad ones out there, sadly... The X308 I drove recently was in superb condition, though, and utterly sublime.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Great comments, many thanks for your videos.
I am blessed to have a mechanic who is an expert in X300s and X308s in particular, and who would look after mine if I were to buy one.
Guessing the chrome 12v cover is a aftermarket one as I am sure I had one in my 75.
Aha the old Ford Style Key, so that means you can lock your Jag manually with any Ford Car Key! (How do I know?? I locked my focus with my wife's focus key with the engine running.... Had to run 10 minutes down the road to get my Spare key so I could unlock it!)
What a great looking car Sir, just needs a beige interior to finish this off.
Have to agree with you the Daimler Super8 was most agreeable when spotted at the Lloyd Vehicle Consulting social.
We did like the Daimler, sir... A most agreeable vehicle. Good old Ford style key, must be related to the one from the Mark III Granada or something like that. We would very much like one of these with a beige leather interior, sir.
May be wrong, but I think if you press the "S" (Sports) button, it keeps the gears in their lower particular gear for longer when accelerating / picking up speed.
Thank you very much indeed for watching and commenting!
Old world v new world a great blend!👍
Glad you enjoyed it, sir!
Thanks for this video! Wonderful car to look at! To what extent did Ford play in the construction of this model?
Well sir, they owned Jaguar from around 1989 to 2008, so quite a lot, I imagine.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Reminds me of the smaller X Type!
These were sold in New Zealand. I saw one taking pride of place in a rural Hawke's Bay car yard last year!
I imagine that certain discerning individuals quite like these over in New Zealand.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Indeed...
Jaguar even gave you the Bedouin tent experience with the headliners! I'd love one of these!
On a budget though. If owt' goes wrong..How much is it gonna cost?
I think it's one of those things where it is not really possible to say with a car of this age, especially with an older luxury model like this Jaguar.
I would say that the Ford key blade can be dated even earlier than the 1990s. My 1986 Escort 1.4 had one like that.
Lovely car though. 🙂
Yes, that key blade has been around for rather a long time, hasn't it?
Good you stressed the appeal of an under stressed V8 Mr Lloyd. Way to go for me too.
If I wanted all power at silly high revs. I'd buy another Japanese multi-cylinder MotorCycle for that as I did in the distant past. Low stress has high appeal as a means of getting about. Suits me Sir!
We did like this X350, sir, it was most agreeable, and definitely a very unstressed engine equipped with this V8.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Precisely why I like my MG ZT Saloon with the V8 power unit. Stress most unwanted.
@@T16MGJ , we like a ZT 260, sir.
Totally agree. I loved the high revs on my bike too but certainly not a car other than a sportscar.
Ford deserve some credit for bringing Jaguar kicking and screaming into this Century, even if their Formula 1 program was a bit over-ambitious!
Never mind, sir, there's always another time for Formula One.
A lovely Jaguar, as they all are.
Depreciation for Jaguar was always higher than the competition, as they were at times not the most reliable.
Surprised it does not have a sunroof! As for forbidden fuel, WE NEVER RECEIVED THEM IN THE US. I believe this first had the 4.0 litre V8, and as you stated, went up to 4.2 litres.
We did get the VDP as well as Sovereign, and, of course the R.
I'm not surprised you loved this, it fits you!
Excellent review as always Joseph!
Yes sir, we liked this very much, and I am sure that the forbidden fuel ones would never have been that popular in America, even if they had sold them there. The Vanden Plas was the American market name for the Daimlers from what I understand.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I read that the VDP was in place for the similar Daimler as well, most likely on Wikipedia.
Nothing compares to a Jaguar!
@@frothe42 , we do like a nice Jaguar, sir....
@@frothe42 , you are right that the Vanden Plas badged ones were essentially Daimlers.
The chrome capped one is a cigar lighter
Thank you very much indeed, I did wonder!
Well, I think we know what will be eventually replacing the 45. :)
It even comes with a Roveresk headliner.
So what does happen if you press the valet button.
Don't ask, sir. It caused a real headache on the day... Not sure if this will be replacing the 45, but we did like it.
The Valet button locks the glove compartment and the boot. Ideal if you never ever want anyone sneaking around trying to look inside if you leave it to be repaired, etc (provided the mechanic doesn't want to get into the boot)
The only way it can be unlocked is for the "Unlock-Doors" button to be pressed on the keyfob. One great idea and very simple ... Excellent.
Regarding the "adjustability" of the air suspension: is it not true that the air suspension IS adjusted automatically? I thought that was the whole point of it.
Sometimes you can adjust it manually in cars which are fitted with it, a Range Rover L322 would be an example of one.
It is adjusted automatically. You cannot adjust it yourself.
XJ/S means XJ and S Type. I have the bluetooth in my S-Type unfortunately its calls for only as bluetooth music streaming had not been invented yet
Yes, it was not common in 2005 for cars to have Bluetooth at all, let alone the music streaming.
My friend has the 3.0 V6 54 plate same colour as that one, it is a lovely car fantastic even, but I would warn anyone thinking about buying a "cheap" one that it can be fairly expensive to repair, has a lot of features that can and will go wrong, the Auto Gearbox being the most obvious cause for concern, but apart from that they are amazing I would have one, the other thing I find which is also obvious is it's too bloody big and If I have opportunity to borrow it I would rather take the Citroën C3 into the town centre sadly, I know that's sad and pathetic
As I have said to someone else, I could buy one of these cars, but the higher servicing costs, and the increased size of the car over my Rover 45 V6 means that I probably will not. It was a lovely car to drive, however. It is best to spend £4-5,000 on one of these in order to get a better one rather than something half the price, I think.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting yes you're right
How many of you went straight to Autotrader right after watching this to check out Jaguar XJ's?
I did feel like that doing that after having a go on it, was must admit.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I think many of us car enthusiasts do that after watching a video. Speaking of XJ's I saw a glorious silver one for sale at the NEC resto show within the "auction" gallery part this past March. Similarly also at the NEC Classic Car Show last November. Not sure if it might even have been the same XJ. I didn't note the reg number in each case.
@@ibs5080 , I filmed sixteen parts of a Slightly Shambolic Shuffle at the NEC in November and thirteen parts of the Shambolic Shuffle at the NEC in March (including the auction), so if you want to check the registration numbers, then do go ahead, but I take no responsibility if you happen to fall asleep in the process, I am afraid...
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Ah yes, I do recall watching some of your good film work at the NEC, though I have to admit to not viewing all 16 parts as yet. I will take another look and try to narrow it down to the parts for the auction. Actually, I also took photos of the silver XJ on each occassion, so I will also check my event photo folders, which are all named for easy reference. I am curious to check if it was indeed the same XJ on both occassions or different ones. Thank You for your suggestion and it's greatly appreciated. I will be back at the NEC Classic car show in November for 2 days, likely the Friday & Saturday. Maybe see you there in November. You can't miss me, as I wear an over the shoulder messenger bag with a large Canadian flag and in winter, a Canadian flag scarf. I am dual Brit and Canadian.
@@ibs5080 , the sixteen parts are there if you have trouble sleeping at night, but you may find it easier to look at your own pictures to identify it, as you say. Will be Shambolically Shuffling around in November at the NEC again, but I tend to be very focused when I am doing it, as I have an awful lot to cover. It's nothing personal, but I don't often have a lot of time to speak to people, sadly...
Walnut Sir!
We did enjoy it, sir...
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Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I do love learning about the x350 didn't know they had the 3.5 on this model thought it was just the 4.2 and the ones we don't mention 😉
Yes, they did a 3.5! Thank you for your self-censorship...
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Very good, sir!