Great, practical tip. I've been wrestling all afternoon with removing several circlips, using both old and brand new tools with tips that are a hair too too short to reach and properly grip these circlips, all of which are firmly seated in recessed areas down inside the hub of the device I'm repairing.
Glad to see I'm not the only guy sheesh I've been struggling with this clip for the better part of 30 minutes and decided to watch some videos now here I am . Thank you for uploading this video mate 😎👌
Hi, When I see a problem I like to help. I saw a video where a "professional" well respected UA-camr was fitting a circlip. He did some magic up close camera work a spoke like a pro. He installed the clip upside-down and was oblivious to the fact. I got angry as I had to learn this stuff at mechanics college. So you saw my five cent on the matter and it is text book to my knowledge. Glad it has help so many people world wide. That was my aim
@@bigstiggerNo1I saw you're 2 Penneth on the matter 😉 Which is exactly how my Dad taught me. Good to see there is still a bit of common sense out there!
also to note, the dull edge goes toward rotating parts to prevent friction an rotation,which leaves the sharp shoulder in the proper retaining groove. the snap rong itself is stamped trough a die and press making one side rounded and the other sharp ,inside outside and removale holes. usually leaving sharp side out .but if in doubt check thrust loads, other wise perfect video, thanx.
Ive always hated circlips, but now maybe I might give them a second chance, I'll buy new ones for all the ones Ive just pulled out of an old pillar drill. At least putting them in will be easier. Interesting.
The other problem is if its installed incorrectly it’s easy to get a little bit heavy-handed on the pliers and if you go a touch too far you can very easily stretch the clip it and now it’s buggered you gotta put a new one down
Any tool recommendations for small circlips? I'm finding that the pliers I have won't fit rings 3/8" (10mm) and smaller. I've tried about 4 different brands.
I've always used my FACOM Tools set. I was gifted some Brittool sets. i've used screwdrivers and even modified longnose pliers in the past. It's not the tool, it's how it's wielded.
Sorry for delay. Had ABS fault, Lathe fault and new machines to sort way to busy. Two flat blade screwdrivers can be used to get externals off. Two mechanic straight pics for internals with a flat blade
Much less frustrating to use the right tool. Big Box and Hardware stores sell pliers with interchangeable straight, 45 Degree and other tips, with the ability to use them on either internal or external circlips or snap-rings for about $15, regardless of brand. However, these all-purpose snap-ring pliers are sometimes not long enough to get into tight spaces. For a small price you save time and avoid the risk of having a screwdriver or other tool pop back and injure your face or an eye.
What you call chamfered I call conical, that is, the holes are conical shaped. But I’m not sure if that’s intentional and by design, or simply the result of how these parts are stamped? In any case good info to learn. Thank you.
Okay, I got taught this method from an old timer who was British Leyland and Jaguar factory trained, from a time when details mattered. If I put the clip on wrong, I knew about it. I saw a video, where the engineer put the clip on then struggled to get it back off again in his demo. The videography was so great I could see he had fitted the clip back to front causing his own struggle. That was all the day before making this video.
I've got a snap 1/16 ring that goes on a bolt with only an 1/8 of an inch bolt sticking out and putting on a vice can't happen because it's a fixed position bolt. aggravating
Yes well put, so putting on willy nilly will lead to a 50% chance of leaving future struggles. Untrained people showing installation on UA-cam prompted my video. Because of the stamping process you must follow an install procedure. Lets face it these days they could be made with laser cutter or edm. they all have this taper😉
I'm looking at the .. er , thing with the holes in it , from the bottom of my Defender steering box . There's no chamfer to the holes , it's just straight through .
That’s a snap ring. Circlips are the wire spring rings, such as those that contain piston wrist pins. I wish they used interior snap rings on pistons but they use wire spring circlips that just love to go sailing across the shop never to be found again.
Somewhat correct? yet using a magnetic bullet proof vest will increase your chances of finding that airborne (retaining device?)May also find some of your small screwdrivers, picks, pliers and contact lenses
Not so. It’s simply a difference between British and American English. In British English these are always called circlips. This major global supplier makes it clear uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=ideas-and-advice/circlips-guide
@@ronanrogers4127 there is a difference between circlips and snap rings. Circlips are just spring steel rings that fit in grooves, e.g. the retainers that hold piston wrist pins. Snap rings do many of the same things as circlips but they have holes on their ends that are grabbed by a set of snap ring pliers. My 1978 Chevy 4x4 had a New Process four speed in it and it contained circlips on its synchronizer gears, as spacers. I just loved to break them shifting gears. Ever few years, I would have to replace them. I got pretty good at it. - drain the transmission, dig out the broken parts from its sump and remove the broken circlips from the Jack shaft. Install new circlips, refill with transmission oil and button up the transmission. Circlips on wrist pins of a two cycle engine are also a challenge. I have put many into orbit. I never start out installing them without having a couple extra laying around. FYI, I am a Scot so I do not do things the way Brits do.
look at the clip inset in the correct direction. I have used anything from the correct pliers to two pins with pliers and modified pliers ground to shape and size.
Doesnt anyone know that the so called "chamfer" is only incidental to the coining process by which these retaining rings are stamped out??? do you all not know that which way the "coined" face faces can be absolutely critical under heavy axial thrust load?? whats all this boolsheet about making the ring stick on your cheap-ass pliers. True some in some cases it doesnt mattter which way the "coined" or rounded face faces but in many cases the retainer ring will fail if placed with the rounded edges facing the wrong way. That is what is vital...not whether your cheeto pincers can operate a pair of snap ring pliers
Great, practical tip. I've been wrestling all afternoon with removing several circlips, using both old and brand new tools with tips that are a hair too too short to reach and properly grip these circlips, all of which are firmly seated in recessed areas down inside the hub of the device I'm repairing.
Knipex makes extraordinarily sturdy circlip pliers - the straight tipped ones are long enough to reach down into otherwise inaccessible places.
Got it sir ! U save me from trouble 👍 thanks a lot
This video is a life saver! Thank youuu
I install circlips chamfer side down, makes it much easier to remove unless the holes or pliers are worn.
Flat washers are installed sharp edge down.
Cheers mate. This helped me. 👍
Thanks. You helped me fix my belt sander.
It makes me happy
Thanks for the info !
Glad to see I'm not the only guy sheesh
I've been struggling with this clip for the better part of 30 minutes and decided to watch some videos now here I am . Thank you for uploading this video mate 😎👌
Hi, When I see a problem I like to help. I saw a video where a "professional" well respected UA-camr was fitting a circlip. He did some magic up close camera work a spoke like a pro. He installed the clip upside-down and was oblivious to the fact. I got angry as I had to learn this stuff at mechanics college. So you saw my five cent on the matter and it is text book to my knowledge.
Glad it has help so many people world wide. That was my aim
@@bigstiggerNo1I saw you're 2 Penneth on the matter 😉
Which is exactly how my Dad taught me.
Good to see there is still a bit of common sense out there!
Thanks for the knowledge
I'm Happy it helps:)
Very good
I never noticed the chamfer, only the agony. Thank you very many! Me love you long time.
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also to note, the dull edge goes toward rotating parts to prevent friction an rotation,which leaves the sharp shoulder in the proper retaining groove. the snap rong itself is stamped trough a die and press making one side rounded and the other sharp ,inside outside and removale holes. usually leaving sharp side out .but if in doubt check thrust loads, other wise perfect video, thanx.
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Ive always hated circlips, but now maybe I might give them a second chance, I'll buy new ones for all the ones Ive just pulled out of an old pillar drill. At least putting them in will be easier. Interesting.
The other problem is if its installed incorrectly it’s easy to get a little bit heavy-handed on the pliers
and if you go a touch too far you can very easily stretch the clip it and now it’s buggered you gotta put a new one down
Thank you.
Any tool recommendations for small circlips? I'm finding that the pliers I have won't fit rings 3/8" (10mm) and smaller. I've tried about 4 different brands.
I've always used my FACOM Tools set. I was gifted some Brittool sets. i've used screwdrivers and even modified longnose pliers in the past. It's not the tool, it's how it's wielded.
I'm trying to install a snap ring onto the end of the shaft of a bread pan for a bread machine. How do I do it if I don't have a circlip plier?
Sorry for delay. Had ABS fault, Lathe fault and new machines to sort way to busy. Two flat blade screwdrivers can be used to get externals off. Two mechanic straight pics for internals with a flat blade
Much less frustrating to use the right tool. Big Box and Hardware stores sell pliers with interchangeable straight, 45 Degree and other tips, with the ability to use them on either internal or external circlips or snap-rings for about $15, regardless of brand. However, these all-purpose snap-ring pliers are sometimes not long enough to get into tight spaces. For a small price you save time and avoid the risk of having a screwdriver or other tool pop back and injure your face or an eye.
That’s not the reason, but the beveled side goes down,sharp corner up, to keep from coming out
What you call chamfered I call conical, that is, the holes are conical shaped. But I’m not sure if that’s intentional and by design, or simply the result of how these parts are stamped? In any case good info to learn. Thank you.
Okay, I got taught this method from an old timer who was British Leyland and Jaguar factory trained, from a time when details mattered. If I put the clip on wrong, I knew about it. I saw a video, where the engineer put the clip on then struggled to get it back off again in his demo. The videography was so great I could see he had fitted the clip back to front causing his own struggle. That was all the day before making this video.
I've got a snap 1/16 ring that goes on a bolt with only an 1/8 of an inch bolt sticking out and putting on a vice can't happen because it's a fixed position bolt. aggravating
Nice to know...but isn't it actually caused by the stamping process, rounded on the punch-side and sharp on the die-side? Thanks!
Yes well put, so putting on willy nilly will lead to a 50% chance of leaving future struggles. Untrained people showing installation on UA-cam prompted my video. Because of the stamping process you must follow an install procedure. Lets face it these days they could be made with laser cutter or edm. they all have this taper😉
Hi there Alan Partridge !
I'm looking at the .. er , thing with the holes in it , from the bottom of my Defender steering box . There's no chamfer to the holes , it's just straight through .
That’s a snap ring. Circlips are the wire spring rings, such as those that contain piston wrist pins. I wish they used interior snap rings on pistons but they use wire spring circlips that just love to go sailing across the shop never to be found again.
Somewhat correct? yet using a magnetic bullet proof vest will increase your chances of finding that airborne (retaining device?)May also find some of your small screwdrivers, picks, pliers and contact lenses
Not so. It’s simply a difference between British and American English. In British English these are always called circlips. This major global supplier makes it clear uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=ideas-and-advice/circlips-guide
@@ronanrogers4127 there is a difference between circlips and snap rings. Circlips are just spring steel rings that fit in grooves, e.g. the retainers that hold piston wrist pins. Snap rings do many of the same things as circlips but they have holes on their ends that are grabbed by a set of snap ring pliers. My 1978 Chevy 4x4 had a New Process four speed in it and it contained circlips on its synchronizer gears, as spacers. I just loved to break them shifting gears. Ever few years, I would have to replace them. I got pretty good at it. - drain the transmission, dig out the broken parts from its sump and remove the broken circlips from the Jack shaft. Install new circlips, refill with transmission oil and button up the transmission. Circlips on wrist pins of a two cycle engine are also a challenge. I have put many into orbit. I never start out installing them without having a couple extra laying around. FYI, I am a Scot so I do not do things the way Brits do.
3:08 Why is it mad at me?
What about circling without holes
I do mention them in the video. no different. Still follow the correct cut angle alignment, then install and removal will be easy
im gonna just blow up all of my lawn mowers!!!!
LET'S GOOO
How the hell do you install them
look at the clip inset in the correct direction. I have used anything from the correct pliers to two pins with pliers and modified pliers ground to shape and size.
Doesnt anyone know that the so called "chamfer" is only incidental to the coining process by which these retaining rings are stamped out??? do you all not know that which way the "coined" face faces can be absolutely critical under heavy axial thrust load?? whats all this boolsheet about making the ring stick on your cheap-ass pliers. True some in some cases it doesnt mattter which way the "coined" or rounded face faces but in many cases the retainer ring will fail if placed with the rounded edges facing the wrong way. That is what is vital...not whether your cheeto pincers can operate a pair of snap ring pliers