Battlestar Galactica | A Mother's Anger
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- After getting Hera back, there is no sympathy for Number 8.
From Season 4 Episode 19 - 21 ‘Daybreak Part 1, 2 & 3’, The Colony is located sitting on the edge of a black hole with only one point of entry in what is a very large debris field. A stripped down Galactica attacks the Cylon's Colony ship in the hopes of rescuing Hera. The meaning of the shared dream in the Opera House on Kobol is revealed.
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"Can you not tell her the plan..." Thank you! Someone knows!
That cliche always bothered me telling the bad guys the plan
Good thing no one in the fleet ever asked Caprica 6 how she got her name.
Well done as the series was, it could really have done with some better writing in places.
@@Taneth You just really notice that there wasn't any preplanning done after the Miniseries. Instead of sitting down and, at least in the broad strokes, mapping out how they wanted the Fleets Journey to go and why the Cylons did what they did they at best planned season by season. And even there likely only the very broad strokes. Until the Series got cancelled and they had to asspull conclusions for every plotpoint they left dangling in front of our faces. The Cylons motivations were botched so bad the creators had to make a Movie to TRY and explain them, only to fail to archieve that. "They have a Plan" turned into "Everybody is just following their chaotic instincts, unless God influences things, and Cavill is a Child throwing a Temper tantrum"
I do like larger Chunks of the show, but the infuriating last season and the Botched potential really sour it for me in some ways. Imagine if BSG had as much planning and forethoguht put into it as Babylon 5, how magnificient that show would have been.
The only really silly thing about BSG was the use of skilled pilots as grunt infantry, its a common sci fi trope but hard to avoid as you need star characters
Well... it makes sense in stuff based on 20th+ century Earth. Air force ranks and officers taking infantry duties. Although even in Stargate, not too long before the global SG program is establish, the US starts using Navy marines, and with the Global SG initiative, they start extensively using Marines, and Army ranks and officers, especially on international projects, like Atlantis.
There's a lot of background extras in Army uniforms with Canadian patches in mid season one, till the last episode stationed on Atlantis. British, German, French and Russian patches can be seen in different episodes too.
Low number, high skill away teams are ofc the usual "star" cast. Like SG-1 and SGA-1.
Tau'ri ships ofc still use Airforce pilots, along with Marines, and a combination of Airforce and Navy service crews (such as engineers, cooks, hanger crews etc.
It's a really small, and easily skippable detail, that the SG series writers and directors could have ignored and never had a second thought about. But they took the time as the seasons went on, and it happened at a rate that even makes sense from an in universe perspective.
Well it's not like they have huge amount of troops to pick up from in rhe first place.
@@GameslordXY They would have 100's maybe 1000's of potential troops while pilots are going to be a few 10's in a population of 50000 at best
Its not really silly. We can assume all crew aboard a battlestar got at least some combat training to this regard. Boarding exists in this universe so every crew member needs to be trained to defend the ship. Especially because their enemy doesnt take prisoners or shows mercy. The amrines cant be everywhere on the battlestar and propably are stationed at the most vital facilities so if a cylon landing pot breeches some random hangar it is very likely the first defenders they will engage are normal ship crew like mechanics or staff until the marines have been informed of the bording position and have arrived there to engage the boarding force properly.
The way boarding comnbat works in most scify universes is basically the same way it worked in the 17th century naval warfare, where all hands of a ship would fight in boarding actions from the cook to the marine infantery.
If boarding in a scify universe exists as a tactic, it is plausable that every crewmember is trained and expected to fight as infantery to defend the ship.
The "why are pilots grunt infantery" mindest comes from 21th century warfare where boarding doesnt exist anymore. Also the series made pretty clear at this point that all vipers have crews and basically everyone that volunteered and is left gets a gun in his hand. Its a last ditch all or nothing assault.
@@noobster4779 Still a pilot represents years of training, a soldier days to weeks. In series they were commonly used as grunts (not just officers leading grunts)
This was my favorite scene when they finally saw the Angels and each other
There should be no apostrophe in angels and each other are two separate words.
I am really happy for this because of all the times that Athena got screwed over earlier during the series just for being a Cylon and something finally goes her way, also on a side not Cavil is fucking hilarious.
Oh my God! I love this scene, i.e., of Caprica telling Gaius, "I'm proud of you for doing this . . . I always wanted to be proud of you. I guess I felt that was the only thing missing." BSG is very post-modern in its acceptance of the dark motives of humans, but even here many of the main characters undergo conversion in Season 4: Starbuck regarding the relationship with her parents, Gaius escapes narcissism, Apollo changes his opinion of Gaius, etc. I love the way Gaius grabs Caprica's coat and pulls her in for a passionate kiss. Maybe it is the first time he ever truly loved a woman without being motivated by sex.
THEIR WERE 3 ANGELS IN GALACTICA AND 5 PARENTS CYLONS AND 2 HUMANS LEADERS AND ONE CYLON LEADER
3-THE NUMBER OF THE UNIVERSE
5-THE 5 ELEMENTS OF THE UNIVERSE
2-ADAM AND EVE OR THE 2 FORCE THAT BALANCE THE UNIVERSE
1-ONE TRUE PRIME GOD THAT MADE THE UNIVERSE
He was always in love with Caprica, he just didn't realize it.
@@rosesweetcharlotte Certainly, not in the beginning. Do you. remember when Gaius was bedding some Asian woman and Caprica walked in on them right before the nuking of the planet?
@@MFM230 He was in love with her even then.
Loved that moment.
Athena was cold as ice. She seemed so calm and casual, almost like she was about to let it slide and give Boomer a chance to escape. Then nah, starts blasting.
0:44 - 1:44 One of my favorite scenes in the entire show.
Mine too. This was my post: Oh my God! I love this scene, i.e., of Caprica telling Gaius, "I'm proud of you for doing this . . . I always wanted to be proud of you. I guess I felt that was the only thing missing." BSG is very post-modern in its acceptance of the dark motives of humans, but even here many of the main characters undergo conversion in Season 4: Starbuck regarding the relationship with her parents, Gaius escapes narcissism, Apollo changes his opinion of Gaius, etc. I love the way Gaius grabs Caprica's coat and pulls her in for a passionate kiss. Maybe it is the first time he ever truly loved a woman without being motivated by sex.
I actually felt sorry for Boomer at the end.
she was definitely a tragic character indeed.
James the first time I watched the series I also felt sorry for her...but each time I watch it the less I sorry her. I think 🤔 she was confused and broken.
@@lastpme It's funny, we've seen Number 8s get killed numerous times throughout the show, I barely react - but seeing Boomer, a character we've known since the Episode 1 get shot, still gives me chills.
Why did they even kill her?
Sharon Agathon's not really a forgiving person, hates the other 8s in general, was grievously wronged by Boomer in particular. I don't think there's a way for Boomer to survive that encounter that's not just ignoring Sharon's character.
Also, another thing I loved was that there were no real villains. Sure, the Cylons were the antagonists, but unlike other shows, they weren't blindly evil for no reason. They had their own motives, and everything was in shades of gray rather than black and white. Boomer had real human emotion and did the right thing, and that makes her hard to hate. Yet another reason why this is such a classic ,interesting, wonderful show!!
Are you implying that causing a genocide on insane levels is morally gray?
By near causing the human extinction. Oh please.
@@stoffni Yes, the Cylons committed genocide; just as the humans attempted in season three: the humans just failed at it.
As the show progressed the Cylons became more and more humanized, while the humans began behaving more and more inhuman, blurring the line on who was the bad guy and who the good guy. Are the humans good guys just because they're humans? What does it say about us that we're okay with genocide as long as it's humans committing it? Are there good Cylons and bad Cylons? Are there good humans and bad humans? Do we blame all of the Cylons for the genocide? How is that different from Cylons judging all humans as evil? Is there any account for remorse for what they've done? How much of their humanity can the humans lose and still be worthy of survival? It's one of the themes of the show: "It's not enough to survive. We have to be worthy of survival."
@@Windupchronic except when humans die, they stay dead (well except for Starbuck). A Cylon just resurrects into a new body complete with all the previous memories. The last remnants of the human race were fleeing for their lives trying to survive, while continually be attacked. I would say there is no morally gray area here; Cylons were the bad guys.
Jeff Burnham You’re forgetting they lost the ability to resurrect along the way. The Cylons began as the bad guys, yes, when they had that ability, but as the show progressed they lost that ability, and became more humanized.
Deep Space 9 and Babylon had grey morale
Daybreak will always be one of all time favorite episodes in this epic remake series
Grace Park I think had the toughest job she had to play Boomer then a Cylon Boomer the Athena as well as being a mom.
Unnecessary cruelty towards Boomer.
Boomer is imo THE most tragic character in the series.
Followed by Duala and Gaeta
I can't imagine not having Tyrol on that list. The guy doesn't really get an arc at all, his character just consists of taking L after L
@@feebtuberealoh my God that is 100 percent correct
Boomer made her choices nothing tragic about her
@@KayMarieDas Kendra said in Razor: “you make your choices and you live with them.”
She's the one that kidnapped Hera in the first place(among other things). Sure I feel sympathy but I don't feel bad for Athena deciding she had to go.
Post the scene after this...when Boomer is getting her ass chewed by Adama & Tigh..."I'll pay you back one day sir, when it really means something...."
thingking the same thing
And she did with a bullet to the gut and being the reason why the Galactica had a one eyed pirate for a first mate.
still an epic show and still missed
THIS NEED A SEQUEL
THE CENTURIES COME TO EARTH AND THEY EVOL
OR A CITY WITH TECHNOLOGY.
OR THE NEW HEROES TO FIND THE WORLD WERE THE CYLON SOLDIERS LIVE
Yeah, I was telling someone about BSG today (4/14/24); it is worth seeing, even if it is 20 or so years old.
love seeing the OG Centurion
lots of people didn't like the daybreak episodes, but I thought they were pretty great. The right characters lived and died, but it didn't feel cheap. Emotional, but not sappy and sentimental. Also the ending with Jimmy Hendrix's All Along the Watchtower and Gaius and Caprica strolling off into the street was beyond compare
Fei-Fei Ross God did it. And lets all condemn our ancestors to short brutal lives for t next half million years so we can practice luddism.
Paul Babcock they had supplies, Medicine and food. The only thing they didn’t bring was technology. For obvious reasons the show stated.
I absolutely hate their use of All Along The Watchtower in this show. For a serious with such a perfect use of music, this was one of the worst uses of a musical key I can think of. All I could think was, Jimi fucking Hendrex just summoned the Final Five? GTFO with that horseshit!
If could change one thing about the series, that would be it. Get rid of all the non-original music.
They were Head Six and Head Gaius strolling off into the street.
So hated what they did with Boomer in season three onwards, it’s like they said frak it we can’t have two 8s on the Colonial side let’s make Boomer Cavil’s lackey, it all makes perfect sense!
It's even worse when you think about it in season 2 on Caprica when they're bringing that whole idea of "revolt" with Caprica Six and Boomer and in season 3 they totally abandoned it... Boomer got the worse treatment as a character and that scene prove it even more, she died as bad as she was used throughout the show.
@Drew Taylor Boxey got dropped for a lot of reasons, chiefly that child actors his age tend to...well, age, quite a bit faster than the in-show timeline. Can't have something taking "six months" later and Boxey's a foot taller and his voice is 2 octaves lower.
@@whette_fahrtz Come on! They used to do it in soap operas all the time( are any still on the air)? Some character had a kid. They would go away for 1 summer and come back 6 years older as a teen that was almost an adult.
Also, with the exception of the end of 2 & beginning of season 3, the timeline seamed to be a year was a year, +- 6 months. Each season was about a year.
They presented it as a flaw of the Eights, Athena is the only one who picked a side and stuck with it, even after the Cylon Civil War the other Eights went to Athena and said “hey let’s ditch everyone”.
@@wsconsn Athena and Boomer were portrayed as the only 8s that stuck with a side and stayed there. That said, I hate what the writers did with Boomer and even how they sometimes handled Athena. We were never allowed to see how Boomer became so disaffected with humanity or even why Athena had become so disdainful of other Cylons and especially her own model line.
I swear this is so FRAKKING AWESOME, I never get tired of watching this
This show was SO entertaining. My daughter's and I loved every episode.
Cavill is so sassy 😂😂😂
Little bit of a scene editing opps:
When we first see Boomer with Hera, Hera's head and body are on Boomer's right side.
When we see them from the back, going down the stairs, Hera's body and head is on the left.
When they show from the front again, hera's head/body is oriented on the right again.
Can you not tell her the plan?
Oh right!
*BAP BAP BAP BAP*
I love this frakking show!
Me toooo I thought I had a favorite until I started the first five minutes of BSG and I knew. you replied to one of my other comments on this channel i believe, it's great to know there are other hardcore fans out there
lol, i remember. I'm actually watching it now. I'm just finishing the 2nd disk of season 4... Not sure what to watch when it's over. I guess I'll start again, lol
2:00 Did two centurions just high-five each other? 😂
This UA-cam channel administrator has amazing skills....
Don't frak with Mama!
I know Athena had lots of reasons for wanting to kill Boomer. But still it bothers me that she is killed here for doing t right thing (for once).
Kidnapped daughter, and impersonated her while fracking her husband..... Hmmm I really dont see anything wrong with Athena's choice. Only thing missing was a bullet to Galens head as well.
@@HaddaClu and the assault on Athena.
@@HaddaClu hey man Hilo ain't fucked up about it he got a chance to get him some pussy I wouldn't be fucking about it either any day I can fuck there's a good one
Actually, she tried to do the right thing most of the time until mid-way through Season 3 when she started hating on Athena. Seeing the life she wanted to have via Athena sent her over the deep end. If I remember correctly, Hera rejected her. That also frustrated her.
Previously, she had saved Sam's life, she & 6 said wiping out humanity was wrong! On New Caprica, did not like the hard edge the Cylons were taking.
@@hillsane9262 I think that sounds about right cause you can see the start of the hate when Hera rejects her and to Boomer it's a clear fact that even though she's identical like a car on a production line Hera knew the difference and wouldn't bond.
Athena's hate is justified cause she not only tried to kill Hera earlier out of pure jealous hate but not only beat her senseless but went out of her to frak her hubby and then escape with her daughter.
Personally i'm more shocked she didn't empty the entire clip on Boomer and then put a round in Galen
At 1:43 when there’s an explosion, it kind of looks like the doctor punched Six in the face.
Can we not tell her our plan !!!
Athena gave Natalie 6 the same treatment. She had no problem in her mind dealing with any a threat to her daughter…either from visions or actual deeds.
wish you included the scene where Boomer halucinates being back in adamas office with adama and tigh talking about paying him back for his support in her becoming a pilot
Not a hallucination, just a flashback.
I'm still trying to figure out what that version of SIx and Gaius are that only the solid versions can see. I mean they are with them throughout the series and even in the future after Six and Baltar are long dead.
How many times Boomer is going to die??
That...might have been the last time.
Last time, honest.
this time it was for real though...
yes
Every time I see this scene Gauis always looks like a ten year old boy playing army and dressing up in his father’s or mother’s uniform.
When I first saw this before the flashback that follows I thought that she meant she owed him one for shooting Adama.
Tigh made me laugh when the cylons boarded
Oh, Boomer, thank you for all you've done.
The Colonials REALLY needed to invest in Anti-Material rifles.
I wish they included the following scene, which showed what Boomer owed Adama.
I guess those number 8's have a thing for blowing out the stomach area when shooting from point blank. lol
Season 4 jumped the shark, but parts of this finale redeemed it somewhat.
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To be fair the show was cancelled while writing the season so they did what they had to with the many arcs that needed to be finished.
Matthew Maybe if they didn’t waste so many frakking episodes in season two.
To be fair, the shark was jumped in season 3. After they got off new Caprica, it started going south.
Writers and actors/crew strikes of 2008 is what really messed with things from what I’ve read if I remember correctly.
Starbuck really likes that SMG of hers but she really ought to be carrying something bigger, preferably with heavy AP rounds. A gun isn't much good if it takes an entire magazine to dispatch a single enemy.
It's not a SMG the weapon is a MP7 which comes with rounds designed to puch though body armour. The weapon is from the same family of weapons as the P90.
@@SeizureGman That's interesting, thank you for the information.
@@asvarien no worry wasn't a dig on first glance it looks like a SMG but they were designed for tank crews and such originally as body armour was becoming common place.
The MP7 was a direct competitor to the P90
Though Apollo has a UMP45 which is a SMG so your argument is valid just aimed at the wrong character lol
Angels or Devil's, maybe forces of nature.
so does that count as murder or suicide?
Yes!
@@LuisRosa72 ok then.
negligent discharge
Para mim boomer estava quebrada e confusa desde o inicio. Ela não merecia morrer
Tricia Helfer........mmmmmm.......
She didn't look so hot in Lucifer but this show was more than 10 years ago
@@ericgarcia4745 She's still pretty damn fine in her 40s.
Still looks good, most women hit the wall when they reach 40.
I always wondered why Athena put a bunch of rounds in Boomers gut. Were they hinting at something there? Or was it just payback for Adama, or just rage?
She was probably just mad.
Maybe Boomer did what she did so that she could be in a position to pay Adama back one day.
I wish Boomer had made amends and ended up with the chief
matthew greenwood I understand how Athena feels, but it's hard to imagine any act that would count more as making amends than defying Cavil and returning Hera to her mom. And she gets shot for her trouble.
Also, I never liked Cally.
I love your beard.
Feel like Boomer still does care to a degree about Chief, but too much time has passed and too much has changed.
@@bbbabrock ugh Cally was pretty terrible. Even worse when it was discovered she cheated on Chief. With Hotdog of all people lol…I was glad Tory spaced her. Chief should have thanked Tory for her community service, not choked her out! Rofl 🤣
Cavil is the guy you really love to hate
So... this is'nt "A Mother's Anger" about Hera; rather, "A Friend's Anger" due to Boomer shot Adama, is'nt it?
OK Boomer
Advanced civilization but still shooting bullets.
in the original series, the cylons were use laser weapons.
lolaz wabby +so did the colonials.
They have FTL technology but still use internal combustion engines.
And 20th Century Earth weapons at that, Starbuck is using an H&K MP7.
Bullets are superior to friggin' pew-pew lasers.
Boomer got shot in the gut, just like she did with Adama. Huh.
Poor Boomer
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John Shomody wrong video brother
Accurately. There is no Asian in that age. Angel? sorry. You have no such memory.
What??