Is Your Trade Dollar Counterfeit? - How To Buy Authentic Trade Dollars And Avoid Fakes

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  • Ultimate Trade Dollar Counterfeit Video Guide.
    Trade Dollars are one of the most counterfeited coins but you can learn their details and not get burned. This video will teach you how to safely buy Trade Dollars.
    We examine images and compare authentic to counterfeit Trade Dollars.
    Authentic Trade Dollars at eBay ebay.to/2G6jroi
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  • @CoinHELPu
    @CoinHELPu  5 років тому +13

    I get more questions and bad new stories on Trade Dollars; more than any other coin type. So many fakes, copies and counterfeits that people get "bit" on these all the time. Education is the only answer to that so please share this video!

    • @alikenzhebekov716
      @alikenzhebekov716 4 роки тому

      Good afternoon! Me scream Ali! I live in Kazakhstan. I have a 1878 coin, a trading dollar. I want to sell it and I will forgive you to rate it by photo, if possible! I will be very grateful to you. Watsapp 87472981247

    • @kimgaron4587
      @kimgaron4587 4 роки тому

      Hi i have a 1876 420grains 900fine trading dollar can you help me identify if its fake? kimgaron0504@gmail.com

  • @stefanschleps8758
    @stefanschleps8758 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks Daniel, as always we appreciate your efforts on our behalf. I have a special love for Trade Dollars, especially American Trade Dollars, and that 1882 is a beauty!
    I have one in storage in the US, a 1876-CC. (The way things are going it may be the only reason I return to the US.) Stay strong Daniel. Till next time. All the best!

  • @danielnulman8262
    @danielnulman8262 2 роки тому +4

    Great help Man, I appreciate everything that you do for our beloved Numismatic Community!

  • @tonizumpano7454
    @tonizumpano7454 5 років тому +4

    Always great! I learn so much from you.

  • @JazzMan76
    @JazzMan76 4 роки тому +1

    I find the videos you put out to be very informative and educational. I hope you keep them coming.

  • @bobbroach84
    @bobbroach84 5 років тому +1

    Excellent job on trade dollar education. Absolutely the best numismatic UA-cam channel. Thanks Daniel

  • @hazegray9998
    @hazegray9998 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge in another great video. I just received my first Trade Dollar. It is a 1877-S. Graded F12 by ICG.

  • @margaretstoner4701
    @margaretstoner4701 5 років тому +4

    loved the video. If people are risking to sell a fugasi on the internet then "and I am genuine " where does that leave the little ones like myself to try. Every item "like my hound would say" should have a return policy ! And was the fake coin slabbed? You gentleman never cease to amaze me. Keep the knowledge coming please. Thank you Daniel

  • @MAGA_Extremist
    @MAGA_Extremist 10 днів тому +1

    Thanks man great video!

  • @fudd3087
    @fudd3087 5 років тому +1

    Great video, thanks for the good work.

  • @budj13
    @budj13 3 роки тому +1

    Very informative! Thank you.

  • @diggersouth
    @diggersouth 2 роки тому +1

    I bought one at my coin club. Didn't realize until later. Kept it for lesson learned. It was cheap.

  • @harryporter3531
    @harryporter3531 5 років тому +1

    Great info, as always

  • @phillipthiebjord
    @phillipthiebjord Рік тому +2

    Thanks for sharing. Those patterns are neat. 😎👍

  • @pascalolivier6266
    @pascalolivier6266 5 років тому +1

    Great video , thank you

  • @jamesmarler3939
    @jamesmarler3939 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for the info 👍

  • @vyesitsme9203
    @vyesitsme9203 5 років тому +3

    Know very little on trade Dollars. WOW! I definitely can see the differences.I think trade dollars are very beautiful 🎈Oh my thank you! All I can say is the true rare Trade Dollars remind me of the Morgan’s! I really like “em”.Yes! 🎈I just knew it that you would be the one ☝️ to help me out! You made my day with a great big (Smile} Awesome Video!🎈👍👍🎈♈️👍👍

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  5 років тому

      You're welcome and thanks for watching!

  • @domingodeanda233
    @domingodeanda233 3 роки тому +1

    That was pretty damn good, thanks.

  • @NGCoinslove
    @NGCoinslove 5 років тому +3

    Secondo from yfreind of Morocco,i love this channel because manny informations Tank you freind shopping this vedio

    • @NGCoinslove
      @NGCoinslove 5 років тому

      This realyy my freind vos vedio interessant

  • @dennisdavis1457
    @dennisdavis1457 Рік тому +1

    Thank you gentlemen babe very informing video I really appreciate it thank you again

  • @elm4504
    @elm4504 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the info. I recently bought one on eBay in the picture it looked good. Once received it is real but highly polished! I was so disappointed at first I wasn't even sure it was real. Pretty sure I lost $$ on this one...I starting watching your videos just a few months ago and really appreciate your videos and you sharing your knowledge.

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  4 роки тому +1

      Good to hear. Thanks

  • @user-jt3lc9dy4p
    @user-jt3lc9dy4p 8 місяців тому +1

    Stamps and coins are the most difficult hobbies in all time , it's was started in a coins age. Counterfeit

  • @ericag9784
    @ericag9784 3 роки тому

    Informative video! I heard you voice and thinking to myself how familiar it sounds then it hit me. Mr. Woodcock!

  • @jackstehlik1942
    @jackstehlik1942 3 роки тому

    Great info! I am still getting used to identifying trade dollars. I have a much easier time with seated coinage.

  • @peterquartararo3249
    @peterquartararo3249 3 роки тому +1

    great video thanks

  • @margaretstoner4701
    @margaretstoner4701 4 роки тому +3

    LOVED THE beauty in her gown.Her dress is very beautiful and the PUPS were a bit more obvious. THANK YOU BOYFRIEND ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @daniels8105
    @daniels8105 4 роки тому +1

    I had my 1877 s trade dollar checked out earlier today, good news according to the coin shop it was real, bad news it was cleaned. I wasn't quite sure about it being cleaned, so I had him submit it to NGC to get graded. I received the coin as a gift so I had no issue paying the 35$ fee. 5 week count down here we go...

  • @dannyp2058
    @dannyp2058 5 років тому +7

    Hi Daniel, a few weeks ago I did buy a trade dollar and as soon as I got it in my hand I knew it was fake, although I'm pretty sure it's been made with 900 silver!
    Sometime in the future I'll get the metal tested, my scales broke just before I got it and it passed the magnet test but if it is silver I won't be too annoyed, I think I will stick to what I know but a real one would be lovely for my collection! I will see what the future brings there though.
    Your a good and helpful man Daniel, good video thanks.

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  5 років тому +3

      Thank you and you're welcome!

    • @marygracemartinez9270
      @marygracemartinez9270 2 роки тому

      @@CoinHELPu hello Can i ask if the trade dollar coins that i have is Genuine.I have 1847 trade dollar coin 420 grain 900 fine. Thank you i want sell it .

  • @jumemowery9434
    @jumemowery9434 5 років тому +1

    I actually collect fake trade dollars, (the silver ones only). Thanks for another very informative video

  • @richardliew2725
    @richardliew2725 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for your information I learned something from you thank you for sharing regards from RichardLiew from Kuala Lumpur Malaysia

  • @conradpons9238
    @conradpons9238 4 роки тому

    I bought a 1877, yesterday at a coin shop, it was the 1st time there. Naturally I'm thinking it's good because it's from a coin shop. Now I'm concerned. I paid 135,dollars for it. Good information my man. 😃😎

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  4 роки тому +1

      That's too cheap. I did a video here ua-cam.com/video/5Ojd5g0OYIg/v-deo.html

  • @jonathancsmelko2361
    @jonathancsmelko2361 5 років тому +2

    Thanks for the information, I do not have any Trade Dollars yet !

  • @jessiejamespanes6831
    @jessiejamespanes6831 Рік тому

    Good Day, Mr. Daniel, is there an 1881 trade dollar. I have 1 of them, the sound was good, it sounds like a bell and it passed to magnet test. looking forward to hearing from you. have a nice day

  • @mercymalapad8161
    @mercymalapad8161 3 роки тому +1

    I have one trade dollar 1879 we have one star at the back.

  • @HDshovelEd
    @HDshovelEd 5 років тому +2

    Hey Daniel, thoughts on the trade dollar with another reverse design on it. Just because one has not been found would not say that there is not a Mule coin out there , right? This is a question and not a statement, btw.

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  5 років тому

      There's s few proposed coins but they're all Pattern coins and are proofs. I am never going to say a mule is possibly because there's too many fake fantasy pieces "muling" the known patterns, seated dollars and trade dollars. So no circulated or business strike mule exist.

    • @benjimoreno2859
      @benjimoreno2859 4 роки тому

      Thanks Daniel just found one in some junk metal's I have went to get magnet it stuck to it .😇

  • @vabbe71
    @vabbe71 Рік тому +1

    Thank you sharing this very good info. People should get more educated about fakes. I'm one of the poor souls who was scammed with a bunch of fake $1 Liberty Seated & Morgan's. When somethin is too good to be true, something's fishy, but I was stupid (and greedy) enough to buy for €6,300 euro (around $7,000 USD, April 2023). The seller told me a cry story "Ooh it's so difficult selling these US coins here in Europe, so you can have them for a bargain". He offered me the coins for 60% of the PCGS value and I bought all five coins, and got scammed big time, all of them were counterfeit and I must say they were extremely well manufactured and much better looking than these you shared here with us

  • @cloroxlavenderscent4307
    @cloroxlavenderscent4307 Рік тому +1

    It's just so bad that I'm just avoiding buying trade dollars altogether. I'm sticking with peace and Morgan dollars. With the Morgans graded only.

  • @8944bdp
    @8944bdp Рік тому

    I have one I recently purchased that when you flip the coin from east to west, the eagle is upside down. I read somewhere where it should be upright. Is this accurate?

  • @indivisibleman8596
    @indivisibleman8596 Рік тому +1

    Interesting

  • @domingodeanda233
    @domingodeanda233 3 роки тому +1

    The bricks and the sea are also quite different.

  • @amsaji82
    @amsaji82 2 роки тому

    Hi I have the same exact coin but there’s one star missing on the right of the lady image

  • @misterTVman
    @misterTVman 4 роки тому +1

    Another helpful hint is to go see your local coin shop dealer for authentication.

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  4 роки тому +2

      Most of them are not that good at it, but yeah.

  • @JohnnyUrbanWoodsmen
    @JohnnyUrbanWoodsmen Рік тому

    Ran into this video today, because my dad just bought 2 1885 Trade dollars in the flea market just know (4-15-23) he only paid $20 for both so no big deal. I do collect coins but im not well verse on the trade dollars, so I didnt know that the 85's only come in proofs and are worth in 7 figures, but anyways, so when he brought them home, It past the magnet test, but failed the weigh test, but the funny part is the coins have signs of sand casting, but has great luster and cartwheeling to it, and I did a ping test using the app pingcoin and of course it fails the morgan, and peace dollar test but funny enough it passes the 500 Lire Italian coin test, which 500 lire is 83.5% silver, but its the size of the trade dollar and it does have a mild silver pinging sound when shucked in hand together, so im wondering if they are silver forged coins using the 500 lire to make them knowing that they are worth alot of money if they were new.

  • @jesusacosta2011
    @jesusacosta2011 5 років тому +1

    Can you make a video on what double dies and errors pcgs ,ngc, anacs acknowledge and the ones they dont . Before we throw away money. Thanks

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  5 років тому +2

      PCGS will attribute most doubled dies and errors. The list is too long for a video. You can call either company and ask them, but there's fees with variety attribution and error attribution.

    • @jesusacosta2011
      @jesusacosta2011 5 років тому +1

      @@CoinHELPu is the list shorter for the ones they don't attribute? Cross referencing with Wexlers and variety vista? Example 1970 s over s rpm I've seen it in coneca top 100 but with little value, seems like it's not worth grading. How about a video on errors not worth grading? Just throwing ideas out there. Ty for your time.

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  5 років тому +1

      @@jesusacosta2011 Thanks for the ideas. The list is longer since there's varieties they might not attribute, but calling PCGS is a must. I think they will put doubled die or RPM if they don't attribute with catalog number.

  • @garyjones6909
    @garyjones6909 3 роки тому

    What about the back of the coin when he's got like a looks like a wheat penny but it says 420 grain and 900 fine on it 8 * 1874

  • @porfirioayarzagoitia6966
    @porfirioayarzagoitia6966 5 років тому +1

    I really want this coin for my book. I refuse to buy it online. Dont wanna risk it. One day ill find a bargain at a shop

  • @janeaira3964
    @janeaira3964 3 роки тому +1

    Sir..i have one 1873 cc trade dollar i want to sell...how much?

  • @71avalon36
    @71avalon36 2 роки тому

    I don't own any yet but I plan to. This is definitely one coin you DO NOT buy off ebay! LOL

  • @s.ascott1959
    @s.ascott1959 5 років тому +2

    Is there much of a market for openly advertised fake coins? I found half a cigar box full of various fake old coins cleaning out a storage unit.

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  5 років тому

      I collect them for the videos and my website. You can sell them as real coins and they're supposed to have copy on them. I have a collection.

  • @shrek_428
    @shrek_428 4 роки тому +1

    I've got 1 of the 1871's, but I knew it was fake when I bought it, really cheap. I got it just so I could have a "trade dollar" I wasn't afraid to handle

  • @idalissalazar1917
    @idalissalazar1917 2 роки тому

    This video has been very helpful but I am still having trouble figuring out if this trade dollar I want to purchase is real do you think you could help me out please?

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  2 роки тому +1

      Don't buy it if YOU can't tell, get another one that is graded and authenticated.

  • @sherdiasher7371
    @sherdiasher7371 4 роки тому

    I have a trade dollar 1797 it seems like your words i check the details its 100 % real

  • @eunicemarquez6693
    @eunicemarquez6693 3 роки тому +1

    I have an 1881 trade dollar can I sale it?

  • @jayyk31
    @jayyk31 4 роки тому +1

    Trade Dollars are one of my favorite series to collect. Theres great info to links on Trade Dollars on the Liberty Seated Collectors Group which everyone interested should read. Q David Bowers book on US silver dollars is in pdf format on PCGS website which has great info.
    Also the Gobrect Journal theres a series written by Mike Fazzari in issue #61 & #63, around 1994/95 which also has critical info which can be used to compare authentic trade dollar varieties to counterfit. Of course this info goes along with the obvious methods to weigh the coin, ring the coin, etc.... to come to a conclusion if its authentic. .great video Daniel thenks.

  • @ThelifeandtimesofBarneyTaylor
    @ThelifeandtimesofBarneyTaylor 5 років тому +2

    I want to dig one metal detecting I hope it won't be fake 😎

  • @leonormaquidato2076
    @leonormaquidato2076 3 роки тому

    how much is the authentic trade dollar?

  • @soco735305
    @soco735305 2 роки тому +1

    The fakes are Great for Magicians and Serious Coin Collectors can definitely tell the difference right away.

  • @maritesmixtv8599
    @maritesmixtv8599 2 роки тому

    Sir I have a 1876 trade dollar..

  • @ghinaperrera735
    @ghinaperrera735 3 роки тому

    Hi i have my father coin 1872. Can you please check if is real?

  • @imeldasalamanca7831
    @imeldasalamanca7831 Рік тому

    Sir I have that one trade dollar 1876

  • @numismaticstacker
    @numismaticstacker 5 років тому +1

    Number3

  • @welmarsayconvlogs6583
    @welmarsayconvlogs6583 2 роки тому

    I have trade dollar from Philippines

  • @ronagumaga2733
    @ronagumaga2733 3 роки тому

    I have trade dollar 1876 old coins can u help me

  • @indisguise7904
    @indisguise7904 3 роки тому

    I have the same coin! It’s 1879

  • @nurmaskhaireen3243
    @nurmaskhaireen3243 4 роки тому +1

    I have trade dolar 1876 in my hand..

  • @ruger51995
    @ruger51995 2 роки тому

    Did the "e pluribus unum" on trade dollars ever have roughly printed letters? The letters RBNM are not well defined at all? Is that ever possible? It is a perched eagle. I think is its name. Its the one holding with lady with the world

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  2 роки тому +2

      There's not errors or varieties like this.

    • @ruger51995
      @ruger51995 2 роки тому

      @@CoinHELPu thank you. I found one on Craigslist for sale, i have pictures that were on the posting. I can email or something. . might be a good example for your videos!

  • @dedodemesa4213
    @dedodemesa4213 2 роки тому +1

    I have 1876 trade dollar

  • @mdruhulaminruhul1665
    @mdruhulaminruhul1665 3 роки тому

    Amar kase usa dolar ache ami ki vabe aponar sthe joga jog korbo janaben

  • @kennethgarrett3966
    @kennethgarrett3966 2 роки тому +1

    I have a trade dollar that is a fake it's 1897 with a s mint mark and its under wt.

  • @margaretstoner4701
    @margaretstoner4701 4 роки тому +1

    Egyptian? Or maybe maybe BRITT:OMN:REX FID:DEF:INF:IMP?JUST STINKIN THINGIN .THANK YOU FOR SHARING BOYFRIEND ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @derekbentley334
    @derekbentley334 2 роки тому

    1871 pattern dollar

  • @mdruhulaminruhul1665
    @mdruhulaminruhul1665 3 роки тому +1

    1875 usa

  • @netteminerva9364
    @netteminerva9364 3 роки тому +1

    I hade trade dollar 1979 but the face and back look like 1879

  • @stopasking9745
    @stopasking9745 4 роки тому +1

    It was also one of my first big purchases it was 90% silver but it was fake I could tell very disappointed

  • @waliahongkong3830
    @waliahongkong3830 5 років тому

    I have one 1877

  • @robertheitman4720
    @robertheitman4720 Рік тому

    Dude I have a 1876 Morgan it's silver I'll send u pics thanks

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  Рік тому

      No Morgan Dollars minted in 1876 and you need to take it to someone so they can look at it in hand.

  • @pradipsharma1663
    @pradipsharma1663 5 років тому +1

    I have 1875 Trade dollar for sale.

  • @santosragunjan1152
    @santosragunjan1152 3 роки тому +1

    !
    I have 1883 one dollar coin

  • @jonathanfish4301
    @jonathanfish4301 4 роки тому +1

    Looks like a pattern

  • @manuelanthonyalbitre6849
    @manuelanthonyalbitre6849 2 роки тому

    Well hello there let me introduce myself my name is Manuel and I would like to know if I could send you some photos of my trade dollars because I don't know if they're fakes are real I came up on them at a yard sale so I would like to know if I could send you the photos if you don't mind I would really appreciate it

  • @typeviic1
    @typeviic1 4 роки тому +1

    APMEX does not sell fakes, do they?

  • @christophercabrera829
    @christophercabrera829 3 роки тому

    I have 1876 coin..now

  • @padispom3895
    @padispom3895 4 роки тому

    i have 1799 trade dollar

  • @ayazkhanayazkhan9474
    @ayazkhanayazkhan9474 3 роки тому

    I have this same coin and i want to sell

  • @yungluiofficial8271
    @yungluiofficial8271 5 років тому

    i have an 1874 trade dollar whats it worth?

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  5 років тому

      Depends on grade

    • @yungluiofficial8271
      @yungluiofficial8271 5 років тому +1

      @@CoinHELPu well its in pretty good condition compared 2 others

  • @romnickparreno1619
    @romnickparreno1619 2 роки тому +1

    1877 year i have 1 coins

  • @arnelavanzado
    @arnelavanzado 8 місяців тому

    i have trade dollar 1872

  • @christophercabrera829
    @christophercabrera829 3 роки тому +1

    Ihave 1876.coin.i trade

  • @MdIbrahim-kw1ii
    @MdIbrahim-kw1ii 5 років тому +2

    Trade dollar 1872 in my hand

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  5 років тому +1

      It's not authentic as I stated in the video. The United States Mint did NOT mint Trade Dollars for trade in 1872.

    • @MdIbrahim-kw1ii
      @MdIbrahim-kw1ii 5 років тому

      @@CoinHELPu I have great freebies for you

    • @MdIbrahim-kw1ii
      @MdIbrahim-kw1ii 5 років тому

      @@CoinHELPu i have more coins all world currency if I want to sell my old coins so how to I sell

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  5 років тому

      @@MdIbrahim-kw1ii Here's my video on how to value and sell your coins. ua-cam.com/video/I8jHpfsQZf4/v-deo.html

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  5 років тому

      Thanks but no thanks.

  • @onniesolema410
    @onniesolema410 4 роки тому

    How can you know that this trade dollar is fake? I have a trade dollar 1875

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  4 роки тому

      So you didn't watch my video

    • @opepeta463
      @opepeta463 4 роки тому +2

      I have one too 1875 is it have value??

  • @randyherbrechtsmeier4796
    @randyherbrechtsmeier4796 5 років тому +2

    It pisses me off, that asians importers are allowed to sell fakes!!! It runs the hobby. Why I always pay too much to have a good graded coin. Thanks, Good info

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  5 років тому +1

      But I am teaching people not to be afraid. We are or can be smarter than the counterfeiters.

  • @billyjoetizon7376
    @billyjoetizon7376 3 роки тому +1

    Meron ako 1882 dollar

  • @henryzuelos
    @henryzuelos 5 місяців тому

    1804 united state

  • @enkhmer7534
    @enkhmer7534 4 роки тому

    ខ្ញុំមាន1882

  • @shekatagani
    @shekatagani 3 роки тому

    That first ones a fake!

  • @mikerulon
    @mikerulon 3 роки тому

    I have seen more often then not the fakes I have seen the lady is about 20 lbs heavier than the real ones.... no one wants a "heavy" coin....lol

  • @asshole94
    @asshole94 Рік тому

    mine says 'IN GOP WE TRUST'

  • @chesteraellenwood8010
    @chesteraellenwood8010 Рік тому

    Dont buy from ebay

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  Рік тому

      Nothing wrong with buying from eBay, buyers are protected. You should be telling people to get educated about the coins they want and put the scams out of business.

    • @chesteraellenwood8010
      @chesteraellenwood8010 Рік тому

      @@CoinHELPu i boight 3 1801 0 all junk

    • @chesteraellenwood8010
      @chesteraellenwood8010 Рік тому

      1891

    • @CoinHELPu
      @CoinHELPu  Рік тому

      Then get your money back and educate yourself on fakes so you can't be fooled. It's not ebay's fault. Scammers are everywhere, even flea markets.