Magnet test works the best and takes 2 seconds. 99% of the fakes stick to a magnet. The ones that dont usually can be found out by weight. Your methods are good too.
@@Yankeepride03 100% true. Ive had a shop since 2014 and 9 out of ten that come in are magnetic. I didnt say all but the majority certainly are. and again, when they arent, the weight is usually off.
@ihustleforit most of these replicas coming from China are made of a brass or copper metal and don't stick. Not a 100% effective test for these, but yes generally a good easy test to do
@@keywellcoinsmafiametals8726 oh yeah i know....its just cheaper to do with the ferrous metals than the copper/brass but sure they definitely do use those as well but imo its even easier to tell. The best ones ive personally seen have been the older ones. Really the first thign should be is a magnet and that will eliminate 90% of the fakes...., after that a scale. rarely if ever, will they pass both, and if they do and they still dont look good i will just scratch it.
I was at a Bazaar in Baghdad Iraq and a local had a box of these Morgan Dollars for sale for $10 each. They looked real but my buddy said they were all fake. He saved me some money that's for sure.
You can hear when they rub together that they are not silver. I have always been able to hear the silver tones even when they are dropped in my hand as change. Thank you for sharing and helping your viewers and the girl.
Growing up my dad had a vending machine business and he would use a coin counter, you could always hear the 90% when one would hit the stack. You could even hear the war nickles when one of those would drop down.
I was dooped as well. I bought Morgans at the flea market. . Came home, and my buddy google said that Morgans must weight 26.73 g. Mine all weight 19 g. Paid $300 for a box of coins, dude put the Morgans on top about 10 of them. First time coin buyer. Lesson learned!
I was very impressed by the "fakes". Glad I'm not a Coin Collector. --- Somebody had some very impressive "stamping Molds". --- Makes one wonder, "Where'd they get THOSE???"
Watching 9 months after posting this video, I found some fakes today, and determined they were fake before I got scammed. The ping was too high, and the coin was too thin. The patina was too wrong. I’m glad I noticed the signs of a fake. I told the shop owner they were fake. It’s a crime to sell fakes. Always report it when you see it.
The seller at the flea market is responsible for passing counterfeit money. If it's intentional, he's a criminal; if it's by mistake, he is too ignorant to be selling coins. At a minimum, the police should have confiscated them.
the fucking police ,back the blue till it happens to you,to be counterfeit money it has to be in circulation at the time.itill you have ever been innocent and in a cage or"guilty"and in a cage you wont understand.
I just encountered exactly such a seller in my town two days ago. He was selling key date fakes of Morgan’s and Mercury Dimes in fake PCGS slabs. All counterfeits from China. The BIG tip-off? The 1916-D PCGS MS63 Mercs were a real “bargain.” Stickered for $20.00! Lol 😂
Please be careful, some counterfeit coins will pass the Sigma test as they are made of real precious metals. I bought a fake Sovereign coin that was made of real 22k gold. The mint mark for the year of issue did not exist, it was never minted. That took a bit of research. I was able to return it two days later for a full refund.
Not necessarily true. The ones in this video were easy to spot, plus you can test them before buying with an app, and anyone that won't allow you to obviously has something to hide.
You have a good point there. I have bought sterling silver silverware at the flea market for almost nothing however. That pocket pinger sounds good to me!
Also (because this is my second comment) lol If I ever feel like a coin is fake once,I educate myself a little more,I will also know who to send them to!!. I am so glad I found your channel!. I certainly appreciate you educating people like myself who is new an absolute rookie to this,but enjoy it so much with my three small grandkids❤
The 1882 one was what I picked, and it was right. My reasoning was because the rest had this weird dark color around the edges of everything which is indicative of someone purposefully trying to darken them, and the real one had a worn down face that is hard to fake without leaving mechanical marks.
I picked number four because the font on the word liberty on the head band looked odd on all the rest. I usually take a real morgan for comparison, if I am looking for coins.
I have one of those ring gadgets. I love it. Its great, I've never got burned while using it. That pocket pinger and a magnet will really improve your chances for not getting burned.
Regarding your three coin test, you didn't need the magnets scale or sigma to know the 1902-O was not a genuine Mint product. The reverse is a pre 1901 New Orleans reverse with narrow wing gap, numismatists refer to it as a C3 reverse. Do some research on the micro-o contemporary circulating counterfeit family which are usually sterling silver and correct weight but many of them have incorrect reverses and can be more valuable than genuine Morgans.
@1:50 number 4 is the real one. I see its sharper numerals and sharper letters than the others and there is no dark background stain. A FEW MOMENTS LATER.......... @3:30.... right on ! I was correct. There are some other measurements that you can also look for manually. circumference, thickness and diameter. There are also die marks that are the same for many different FAKE COIN years, as to where they would of had different dies at the mint. - Great video, I am a novice and have bought a lot of bad coins for very good deals.
Yes, you can see the Lustre on #4 very early in the video. Not all circulated Morgans will have Lustre, but that one does, and zero fakes will have it since they're plated and we're never struck in a die
I'm a novice Morgan Dollar collector & picked out #4 almost immediately. I looked at the obvious gaps of the wing feather tips compared to the details exhibited by #4 & there was no comparison.
I bought a Morgan from a coin dealer at a street market in the UK. I'd gone a few yards when i realised it was a fake because the heads two sides werent in the correct relationship to each other. He gave me the money back but put it back on his stall. He knew it was fake but didnt care and was selling it as real.
Damn at the end I thought you struck gold for a minute there lol. Great video as always. This is what I learned from Flea Market sellers that sell coins, 1. there almost always fake or, 2. there that overpriced that your not gonna buy them anyway which is why I just never buy coins from Flea Markets.
There is an online site named Temu. They sell made in China counterfeit 1878 Morgan's and another example is 2017 Silver American Eagle. I have examples of these. I wonder why law enforcement allows this company to continue to commit out and out fraud.
Good information, as always, SpegTacular....the ring of REAL silver....so nice! Saving my pennies in the hope of getting a Sigma one day! Take care, be safe and God bless! 🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@pietrocarruthers2137 I think it is because the coins aren't used as currency, and they don't have enough resources to deal with the real counterfeit problem: foreign hundred-dollar bills.
0:25 - Paused for first impressions. Just at first glance, the two on the left look off. The one in the center - the patina looks "too good" like it was applied. Top right the off color(goldish sheen) is a little worrisome but it's my second choice because the ware looks very consistent. Bottom right is my guess for the real one. Love the flat dullness on the luster(or lack of luster) and the ware looks right.
Hola. Am so glad to find a current vid made by an experienced & organized numismatist on this important topic. So many online sites selling Chinese mass produced fake silver coins/bullion at stupid low $, & new collectors & anyone looking to make a quick buck, or who aren't schooled on coin or silver unwittingly buying that stuff, we've got a steady supply of economy destroying fake bullion being injected directly into our economy's bloodstream. This vid shows that it may be more prolific than we hear about.
I can hear silver coins in a cash register. Once heard a lady at the drugstore sticker hand in the dime a section and I heard some. I bought all of them off of her. She had no idea what they were.
I've had problems even with antique dealers who sell a lot of silver/gold coins, that sterling silver does in fact have magnetic properties, yes diamagnetism is real which means all metals have some measure of magnetic properties, just not the ferrite type. But of course antique dealers don't want to hear that kind of thing when it comes to selling sterling ware. They automatically dismiss any such claims when trying to prove to them silver does have magnetic properties.
Is nothing sacred anymore? I used to think $100 bills were the only things you really had to worry about. Now it's morgans, eagles, peace dollars, everything.
We recently had a couple of folks try to sell us fake Morgan Dollars, 1923 peace dollars , gold Maple leafs, silver eagle coins, silver bars and Gold One ounce bars....All magnetic ⚠️😡Yes, everything was fake except the dimes , quarters and halves.
Bought 200.00 dollars worth in China at a flea market one dollar apiece. They were inspected at customs and allowed in country. My son gave most of them away as gifts. He took two to a coin shop where they purchased them for? of money. The coin shop owner called me a few weeks later threating to sue as they were fakes. I know the value of fake ones now are much greater than what the coin shop paid 4 them.
Knew it was 5. My method- look at the word 'states' on the coin The real one has a nice, aligned circular angle of the letters If you go back and look 1:38 the word "states' looks wonky and misaligned on it seems all the fakes made
So why does the federal government allow the importation & sale of counterfeit currency? They seem to really pick and choose which laws to enforce and who they enforce them against.
The fact that each one immediately looked like different thicknesses and Morgan seemed a little sloppy. The “perfect” toning on the one followed by the luster on the worn one. Several minor details became big red flags while I was watching the video live.
I saw coins overseas that were fake. The coins were noticeably lighter. They were sold at flea markets. One of my friends told me that they were produced for overseas markets.
It's not that we can't HEAR the ping tone, it's that we have nothing to compare it to. Who sits around pinging their Morgans??? 🤔As far as having a pocket-pinger to test coins at shows ~ virtually all such coins are in some kind of holder, be it simple paper & staples or whatever. I don't believe the dealer is going to be down with, "Hey, mind if I take this Morgan out of its holder and give it a ping?". 🤨🤐
@@TheAstilesus ~ Perhaps with the obvious fakes. However, the alpha & numeric fonts can vary widely on real Morgans. Just check a good sampling of "cc" Morgans, and you'll see what I mean.
A lot of people have silver and gold coins and never know they are fake just passed up 6 Carson cities that were fake but somebody bought them they are the most counterfeited coin in the US
I've never heard of a Morgan Dollar and then realized hey I have one. A relative had some coins and when they died my mom was given them and then gave them to me. It's 1883, I see it is an O series, the detail looks good to be as far as I can tell. It's quite dirty but I won't clean it. I smacked it and it gave a nice ringing sound. I also have two 1964 JFK half dollars.
I was in cambodia in 1994 after the new elections when the KR was tossed out. Some of the street vendors were selling a lot of old silver coins like these. I did not buy any of them
Depends on where you buy them. They sell these that look like Morgans but the description says they are fake which means they were not made to deceive the original buyer.
The problem would be when they change hands. Maybe they should be required to be stamped with an R for Repro on the reverse. I know the Feds go after other sellers/makers of counterfeit goods.@@josephhodges9819
You could call them counterfeit. You could call them crap. But they aren't current currency, so no one is going to call the secret service, because the secret service doesn't have enough time or resources to prosecute fakes of old coins.
Here is a question. I have a really good postal scale. If I put a for sure 1 oz silver coin on there or round and then compare it to the suspected coin around won't a fake way differently than the true 1 oz coin?
95% of fakes will be too light or will stick to a magnet or both. The best fakes are plated copper, so they won't stick to a magnet but will either weigh too light or will be too thick.
I'm an idiot..so help me out. How is the "analytic" powered? Can you charge it up like a cell phone and go to fleas with it? If not, then do they make a power pack that can be charged up to provide power to it? If the answer is "no" to both questions, then collectors NEED to make their own battery-powered "on the go" supply to plug INTO the "analytic" at fleas....and well, just about ANYWHERE you go to shop for coins.
I picked the real one pretty easily. It had more realistic detail. I assume that wear does not happen perfectly uniformly as it appears on fake coins. The wear creates a 2D look, where the real coin seemed more 3d
I’m new to collecting coins and found a 1858 gold 1 dollar piece and they wanted 600 for it but I seen plenty for around 750 to 800 should I jump on it?
I appreciate you going over this and I appreciate the other person for being willing to reach out and admit that they purchased counterfeit coins
The silver alone is worth 20 dollars each . If they are selling 3 for 40 dollars that’s your first red flag.
Melt on Morgan's is well over 20 now, for sure should've been biggest red flag
They actually sold 3 for 20$ the whatnot seller doubles whatever sale price is for the whatnot streamers profit
It's your ONLY and most ASSURED RED FLAG! Con men depend on human greed!
Not if they dont know what they have. Like precious paintings found at garage sales.
4 is real ??
Magnet test works the best and takes 2 seconds. 99% of the fakes stick to a magnet. The ones that dont usually can be found out by weight. Your methods are good too.
Not true. Many of them are non magnetic 🧲
@@Yankeepride03 100% true. Ive had a shop since 2014 and 9 out of ten that come in are magnetic. I didnt say all but the majority certainly are. and again, when they arent, the weight is usually off.
@@ihustleforit Copper reacts to magnets the same way as silver. Copper and silver are ferromagnetic meaning, most fakes now are made of copper.
@ihustleforit most of these replicas coming from China are made of a brass or copper metal and don't stick. Not a 100% effective test for these, but yes generally a good easy test to do
@@keywellcoinsmafiametals8726 oh yeah i know....its just cheaper to do with the ferrous metals than the copper/brass but sure they definitely do use those as well but imo its even easier to tell. The best ones ive personally seen have been the older ones. Really the first thign should be is a magnet and that will eliminate 90% of the fakes...., after that a scale. rarely if ever, will they pass both, and if they do and they still dont look good i will just scratch it.
I was at a Bazaar in Baghdad Iraq and a local had a box of these Morgan Dollars for sale for $10 each. They looked real but my buddy said they were all fake. He saved me some money that's for sure.
Old cash redgesters had a marble top to tap a coin on to test it.
ive seen that ,but had no idea what it was for ,im 60
The good ones "ring true" that's where the saying comes from
You can hear when they rub together that they are not silver. I have always been able to hear the silver tones even when they are dropped in my hand as change. Thank you for sharing and helping your viewers and the girl.
Exactly. 90% silver coins click when they make contact with each other; they don’t ring.
Growing up my dad had a vending machine business and he would use a coin counter, you could always hear the 90% when one would hit the stack. You could even hear the war nickles when one of those would drop down.
Before garbage clad coins everyone knew the sound of silver. Just one more life skill we have lost as a nation.
I was dooped as well. I bought Morgans at the flea market. . Came home, and my buddy google said that Morgans must weight 26.73 g. Mine all weight 19 g. Paid $300 for a box of coins, dude put the Morgans on top about 10 of them. First time coin buyer. Lesson learned!
I was very impressed by the "fakes". Glad I'm not a Coin Collector.
--- Somebody had some very impressive "stamping Molds".
--- Makes one wonder, "Where'd they get THOSE???"
They all come from China
Great video! Thank you for your time and for showing us quite a number of ways to protect ourselves against fakes. 👍🙏
Watching 9 months after posting this video, I found some fakes today, and determined they were fake before I got scammed. The ping was too high, and the coin was too thin. The patina was too wrong. I’m glad I noticed the signs of a fake. I told the shop owner they were fake. It’s a crime to sell fakes. Always report it when you see it.
The seller at the flea market is responsible for passing counterfeit money. If it's intentional, he's a criminal; if it's by mistake, he is too ignorant to be selling coins. At a minimum, the police should have confiscated them.
Maybe if they were trying to use them as $1. Not as a collectible.
the fucking police ,back the blue till it happens to you,to be counterfeit money it has to be in circulation at the time.itill you have ever been innocent and in a cage or"guilty"and in a cage you wont understand.
Sorry Karen, cops don't show up at flea markets to bust Mooks selling trinkets.
I just encountered exactly such a seller in my town two days ago. He was selling key date fakes of Morgan’s and Mercury Dimes in fake PCGS slabs. All counterfeits from China. The BIG tip-off? The 1916-D PCGS MS63 Mercs were a real “bargain.” Stickered for $20.00! Lol 😂
@@stuartmoore6310 Actually, that would be secret service, they handle counterfeit.
Please be careful, some counterfeit coins will pass the Sigma test as they are made of real precious metals. I bought a fake Sovereign coin that was made of real 22k gold. The mint mark for the year of issue did not exist, it was never minted. That took a bit of research. I was able to return it two days later for a full refund.
If it's real gold keep it cause it's gold by itself not cause it's a coin
@@1964catt Depends on how much was paid for it....
Good advice for a coin collector. If you're in it for the metal, it depends on what the spot price is.
How to identify fake Morgan Dollars at a flea market:
1. They're at a flea market. 😉
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So true.
So true!
Not necessarily true. The ones in this video were easy to spot, plus you can test them before buying with an app, and anyone that won't allow you to obviously has something to hide.
You have a good point there. I have bought sterling silver silverware at the flea market for almost nothing however. That pocket pinger sounds good to me!
Also (because this is my second comment) lol
If I ever feel like a coin is fake once,I educate myself a little more,I will also know who to send them to!!.
I am so glad I found your channel!.
I certainly appreciate you educating people like myself who is new an absolute rookie to this,but enjoy it so much with my three small grandkids❤
Did you know the old cash registers had a slab of marble above the drawer to test coins ?
I thought Brass as soon as u Scratched it! You have a Good Eye SPEG! Cheers JJ
The 1882 one was what I picked, and it was right. My reasoning was because the rest had this weird dark color around the edges of everything which is indicative of someone purposefully trying to darken them, and the real one had a worn down face that is hard to fake without leaving mechanical marks.
I picked number four because the font on the word liberty on the head band looked odd on all the rest. I usually take a real morgan for comparison, if I am looking for coins.
I have one of those ring gadgets. I love it. Its great, I've never got burned while using it. That pocket pinger and a magnet will really improve your chances for not getting burned.
haha as soon as I heard the bell sound and the sustained decay of the sound I was like "I gotta go pick up some coins"!
Regarding your three coin test, you didn't need the magnets scale or sigma to know the 1902-O was not a genuine Mint product.
The reverse is a pre 1901 New Orleans reverse with narrow wing gap, numismatists refer to it as a C3 reverse.
Do some research on the micro-o contemporary circulating counterfeit family which are usually sterling silver and correct weight but many of them have incorrect reverses and can be more valuable than genuine Morgans.
@1:50 number 4 is the real one. I see its sharper numerals and sharper letters than the others and there is no dark background stain. A FEW MOMENTS LATER.......... @3:30.... right on ! I was correct. There are some other measurements that you can also look for manually. circumference, thickness and diameter. There are also die marks that are the same for many different FAKE COIN years, as to where they would of had different dies at the mint. - Great video, I am a novice and have bought a lot of bad coins for very good deals.
Finally a good comment lol. Why are people thinking number 5 was real?
Yes, you can see the Lustre on #4 very early in the video. Not all circulated Morgans will have Lustre, but that one does, and zero fakes will have it since they're plated and we're never struck in a die
I'm a novice Morgan Dollar collector & picked out #4 almost immediately. I looked at the obvious gaps of the wing feather tips compared to the details exhibited by #4 & there was no comparison.
I bought a Morgan from a coin dealer at a street market in the UK. I'd gone a few yards when i realised it was a fake because the heads two sides werent in the correct relationship to each other. He gave me the money back but put it back on his stall. He knew it was fake but didnt care and was selling it as real.
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Damn at the end I thought you struck gold for a minute there lol. Great video as always. This is what I learned from Flea Market sellers that sell coins, 1. there almost always fake or, 2. there that overpriced that your not gonna buy them anyway which is why I just never buy coins from Flea Markets.
There is an online site named Temu. They sell made in China counterfeit 1878 Morgan's and another example is 2017 Silver American Eagle. I have examples of these. I wonder why law enforcement allows this company to continue to commit out and out fraud.
Wish u would have used calipers. They were right there. I have several that r 2.9mm thick n lots of people say they need b 2.4mm
Good information, as always, SpegTacular....the ring of REAL silver....so nice! Saving my pennies in the hope of getting a Sigma one day! Take care, be safe and God bless! 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Secret Service: Why don't you have a seat right over there...
Or get rid of the problem (Wish and Temu).
they don't do shit about it
Lol, they don't even care about fake silver eagles, let alone fake Morgans
@@pietrocarruthers2137 There's even fake silver dimes/quarters!! This don't count as counterfeiting?
@@pietrocarruthers2137 I think it is because the coins aren't used as currency, and they don't have enough resources to deal with the real counterfeit problem: foreign hundred-dollar bills.
0:25 - Paused for first impressions. Just at first glance, the two on the left look off. The one in the center - the patina looks "too good" like it was applied. Top right the off color(goldish sheen) is a little worrisome but it's my second choice because the ware looks very consistent. Bottom right is my guess for the real one. Love the flat dullness on the luster(or lack of luster) and the ware looks right.
you could also jingle them in your hand. thats a good way to tell by listening.
Hola. Am so glad to find a current vid made by an experienced & organized numismatist on this important topic. So many online sites selling Chinese mass produced fake silver coins/bullion at stupid low $, & new collectors & anyone looking to make a quick buck, or who aren't schooled on coin or silver unwittingly buying that stuff, we've got a steady supply of economy destroying fake bullion being injected directly into our economy's bloodstream. This vid shows that it may be more prolific than we hear about.
Use a magnet to test if you don’t have a pocket pinger plus a set of electronic scales to check proper weight.
Yeah I can hear the difference. The fake ones have a harsh high tone. I'd almost say like a sawtooth wave. The real silver one sounds more like a bell
if it's over the gram weight it's fake....remember coins don't gain weight
Every Morgan and Liberty dollar coin I found at Kobe Swap Meet in San Diego was fake. Everyone
I can hear silver coins in a cash register. Once heard a lady at the drugstore sticker hand in the dime a section and I heard some. I bought all of them off of her. She had no idea what they were.
they sound the same to me or the difference is so slight i can't tell
I've had problems even with antique dealers who sell a lot of silver/gold coins, that sterling silver does in fact have magnetic properties, yes diamagnetism is real which means all metals have some measure of magnetic properties, just not the ferrite type. But of course antique dealers don't want to hear that kind of thing when it comes to selling sterling ware. They automatically dismiss any such claims when trying to prove to them silver does have magnetic properties.
Is nothing sacred anymore? I used to think $100 bills were the only things you really had to worry about. Now it's morgans, eagles, peace dollars, everything.
It's yellow inside, so these scammers they sell gold instead of silver, it's awful!
Hah I wish.
Great video as always. What river were you on at the end of the video?
We recently had a couple of folks try to sell us fake Morgan Dollars, 1923 peace dollars , gold Maple leafs, silver eagle coins, silver bars and Gold One ounce bars....All magnetic ⚠️😡Yes, everything was fake except the dimes , quarters and halves.
Bought 200.00 dollars worth in China at a flea market one dollar apiece. They were inspected at customs and allowed in country. My son gave most of them away as gifts. He took two to a coin shop where they purchased them for? of money. The coin shop owner called me a few weeks later threating to sue as they were fakes. I know the value of fake ones now are much greater than what the coin shop paid 4 them.
Love my pocket pinger… bought quite a bit off of eBay and only got 3 fakes 😅
Just ordered 2 pingers. Thanks for the discount code 😊
Two for 60 with a $6.00 discount total $54.00
Let people know what kinda discount you got if you don’t mind. ❤️
Knew it was 5. My method- look at the word 'states' on the coin
The real one has a nice, aligned circular angle of the letters
If you go back and look 1:38 the word "states' looks wonky and misaligned on it seems all the fakes made
@MikeBarbarossa It was number 4 though? Did you not watch him number them ? Called the 82 was real right as I saw it.
So why does the federal government allow the importation & sale of counterfeit currency? They seem to really pick and choose which laws to enforce and who they enforce them against.
Good vid Speg.
Are there any visual clues that would let you know they are fake?
The fact that each one immediately looked like different thicknesses and Morgan seemed a little sloppy. The “perfect” toning on the one followed by the luster on the worn one.
Several minor details became big red flags while I was watching the video live.
So to test by hitting it to hear the sound, you HAVE to have a fake one.
The look & weight will give most fakes away, then its the pinger, then a scale, seen so many more fakes in the last 6 years.
Thanks for the video, when she dropped the coins into her hand you could tell right off they were fake.
The sound was weird right? They also feel unusual in the hand. Dunno how to describe it but it’s different
More than 30 years ago, I bought a 1932 Quarter with a carefully glued on D at a flea market.
I saw coins overseas that were fake. The coins were noticeably lighter. They were sold at flea markets. One of my friends told me that they were produced for overseas markets.
1:36 No.2 and No.3 are the most suspicious of all since most counterfeited coins have a black outer surface and a cleaner inner surface
I wear a vest with my digital scales and a magnifying loop and even carry a common genuine morgan in very fine condition
It's not that we can't HEAR the ping tone, it's that we have nothing to compare it to. Who sits around pinging their Morgans??? 🤔As far as having a pocket-pinger to test coins at shows ~ virtually all such coins are in some kind of holder, be it simple paper & staples or whatever. I don't believe the dealer is going to be down with, "Hey, mind if I take this Morgan out of its holder and give it a ping?". 🤨🤐
Take a verified real morgan with you. A lot of fakes can be determined by visual comparison.
@@TheAstilesus ~ Perhaps with the obvious fakes. However, the alpha & numeric fonts can vary widely on real Morgans. Just check a good sampling of "cc" Morgans, and you'll see what I mean.
Outstanding speg😊
He’s pretty awesome 😉
Once you know the sound, looks and feel you don't need a machine
Wow! Awesome information! Thank you so much for sharing your video.
Really Interesting video. Thanks for showing us your methods .
My hearing must be off because I cannot distinguish the difference in sound. That is why I bought the Sigma. It isn't 100% though.
The specific gravity test works perfectly
What model is your $800 metalitix machine. I am going to buy one
When i was young banks gave them out at face value
Generally, a sucker game, lose on the purchase, lose on the sale!😂
A lot of people have silver and gold coins and never know they are fake just passed up 6 Carson cities that were fake but somebody bought them they are the most counterfeited coin in the US
What is the frequency that a legit coin should ring at?
I've never heard of a Morgan Dollar and then realized hey I have one. A relative had some coins and when they died my mom was given them and then gave them to me. It's 1883, I see it is an O series, the detail looks good to be as far as I can tell. It's quite dirty but I won't clean it. I smacked it and it gave a nice ringing sound. I also have two 1964 JFK half dollars.
The O means it was minted in New Orleans
Where can I get the dinger tester
I was in cambodia in 1994 after the new elections when the KR was tossed out. Some of the street vendors were selling a lot of old silver coins like these. I did not buy any of them
pocket pinger cost me $50 here in Canada and no supplied apps
Why was it $50? That app is free but if you want they have to do what it used to do plus more you have to pay for it now
Hello @Speg hope you are having a great week
How much is that measure and where can I get it
Wow! I'm up in age and I never heard any sound at all until he tapped the legit coin.
Any idea when these fakes were created? Fakes from 1880 California or fakes from china 2 years ago?
Why aren't they called counterfeit as opposed to fake and are dealers ever arrested for selling them? If so wouldn't that stop a lot of these sales?
Depends on where you buy them. They sell these that look like Morgans but the description says they are fake which means they were not made to deceive the original buyer.
The problem would be when they change hands. Maybe they should be required to be stamped with an R for Repro on the reverse. I know the Feds go after other sellers/makers of counterfeit goods.@@josephhodges9819
You could call them counterfeit. You could call them crap. But they aren't current currency, so no one is going to call the secret service, because the secret service doesn't have enough time or resources to prosecute fakes of old coins.
Thanks for the advice.
Can that machine test gold coins?
I got it right by guessing #4, it just looked right to my trained eye. I have quite a few real ones. Never fell for a fake.
Does pocket ping-ers work on silver rounds?
I test EVERYTHING with my Sigma. Trust but verify as Ronald Reagan stated 🇺🇸
I spotted the real one immediately. my mother was a bank teller in the 60s and my father was blind
This is why most folks only buy graded coins and always check the numbers to make sure its authentic
Here is a question. I have a really good postal scale. If I put a for sure 1 oz silver coin on there or round and then compare it to the suspected coin around won't a fake way differently than the true 1 oz coin?
95% of fakes will be too light or will stick to a magnet or both. The best fakes are plated copper, so they won't stick to a magnet but will either weigh too light or will be too thick.
Hey can these coins have copper rivit soldered to the back to use in leather work?
No.
I bought a few of these in India, both the dealer and I knew they were fake. As a coin magician they present very well.
I weight, ping and measure with a caliper all of my coins I buy. I haven't found a fake one yet.
I have the silver analytic but I want to buy the sound ping to identify just in case the analytic starts to fail.
#4 has some 'cartwheeling' in its finsh. If it were polished, it would have been harder to detect.
I love graded coins so had to get a Sigma.
It’s worth it in the long run!
Thanks! Good information!❤
How much are the fake coins worth?
I'm an idiot..so help me out. How is the "analytic" powered? Can you charge it up like a cell phone and go to fleas with it? If not, then do they make a power pack that can be charged up to provide power to it?
If the answer is "no" to both questions, then collectors NEED to make their own battery-powered "on the go" supply to plug INTO the "analytic" at fleas....and well, just about ANYWHERE you go to shop for coins.
It holds a charge
How much is that mater used tkg
I picked the real one pretty easily. It had more realistic detail. I assume that wear does not happen perfectly uniformly as it appears on fake coins. The wear creates a 2D look, where the real coin seemed more 3d
It would be interesting to know the origin and history of counterfeits.
lol quote of Q1 2024 “Some people are jerks and that’s how it works” hahahaha
So making a counterfeit US COIN isnt a big deal in case you get caught?
Great vid! Thanks.
I’m new to collecting coins and found a 1858 gold 1 dollar piece and they wanted 600 for it but I seen plenty for around 750 to 800 should I jump on it?
Great content, thank you so much.