I love this pattern, I wear it for airsoft and get laughed at a lot, but when it works better than the type 95, flecktarn and multicam that are popular here I am the one laughing! If you look at it even from standart airsoft fighting distance the red disappears and blends into other colours while making interesting almost 3d effect that breaks up the outline better than most other patterns.
I've seen that pattern before, but I was so use to the woodland camouflage that I thought it was just some kind of designer camouflage. Shows you how much I know. Lol but now I think it's worth a shot.
I like the idea of having your whole team in the same pattern. I picked up a bunch of British Desert shirts for cheap. I bought a bunch to give to my guys if I need to. Thanks again for the great video.
Was issued OD green in basic training, long ago. They started issuing woodland to new recruits shortly after. Had to buy my own woodland. Now I buy multicam.
@@joenuts5167 by unnatural I am referring to the straight lines and squares that don't appear in nature. I understand that it can still work as camouflage, but I personally don't care for it. I can understand how some may like it.
I used it for paint ball. It really did worked well and you really didn’t need any overt red color in the environment. It worked just as well in the greener summer months as it did in the fall when there was more reds.
I just googled it and found the Swiss Army issue Alpenflage M70 field jacket for $12.99. The matching M70 pants with suspenders were also $12.99. Thanks Jacob.
I roll with woodland bdu for my gear but I have to say my fav cammie pattern is what the bulgarian troops wore in Afghanistan. And they looked really breathable and comfortable
Yeah I liked them. But yeah woodlands are a good choice. I think it is important in a shtf situation to not look like the guys everyone is pissed at leading up to said event lol
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors exactly lol how do you feel about suppressors? I wouldn't want to keep it mounted on a 16 inch AR all the time but I figured it could have its benefits when shooting at night for flash reduction or if your on the move and the report of a shot isn't as obvious to a untrained ear. In a shtf event I'm meaning.
@@user-zp6nm6rt8k i would LOVE to have one- will I buy shelling out $ and kissing govt butt for one? No. There is no denying their potential advantages though, even just for flash suppression
I used the Swiss Camo for paint ball about 20 years ago. It was very effective and at the time it was very cheap and there seemed to be an unlimited supply.
How would the alpenflage gear hold up for camping? The pants and shirt are a 50/50 cotton polyester, I wouldn't be taking the jacket because I'd take a pack.
Try it out in the middle of summer and winter as well, you might be surprised. I am from the pnw where I started using it because my dad was opfor at Lewis and it was what they wore. Unless you are in a perfectly white environment this stuff will surprise you! Or anyone looking for you.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors TBH my alpenflage was used in a strictly urban jungle back then. It did appear to keep predators at bay (especially on the rare occasions when the face veil would be drunkenly deployed). I actually loved all the matching pieces (parka, pants, & backpack) & the material was nice & heavy.
Actually "Leibermuster" was the Name for the original pattern from Germany during WWII. One of the companies involved in developing was called Hellmut Leiber and Leiber ("Leib") can also refer to the German word for Body, so it´s also a little Pun.... And the red and brown tones in the German Camo-Patterns from that time come from the fact, that Germany was already in developing IR-Scopes etc. and that was considered when developing those patterns. You still see it in the Flecktarn....
No problem, I asked because I wasn't sure if I had accidentally misrepresented the camo in the video or forgot to mention it's history. But I am well familiar with the different stages, iterations, and nations that used alpenflage
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Yeah, I just used "actually" without that deep meaning. Most people here in Europe don't know about the history etc. about those patterns and get a little irritated..... haha
@johnmoder5306 understandable! Its no big deal, but here actually is often... a bit... aggressive? Idk. Borderline rude possibly. It depends a lot on context. If you want to be really sassy you write it like aCtuAlLy or AKtuAlLy with random capitalization haha
I always thought it was a Swiss pattern. I was just razzing you on the last vid. I've almost bought some a few times over the years. I see the utility in it.
Oh its ugly! Haha no denying that! Maybe its even half the fun 🤷♂️ I wish it was as cheap and plentiful as it used to be. On the dl- I am altering the pattern and thinking about releasing it as my own.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Do it, but darken up the red some. I live in the northeast part of Washington state, which varies from green to red. None of the popular camos seem to work across the board. I have spent years hiking the mountains with my brindle Great Dane and she blends in so well in all environments. Do you know of any brindle type camo patterns? I know of tiger stripe camo but there is just too much contrast and it doesn't blend good here.
Shot in the dark on an old vid....when you order this from Europe (looks like most comes from same place in Lithuania) do you order the sizes like you would in US? If a medium here , do you order a medium jacket ? And waist /inseam, does it seem to mesh with jeans you order in US?
How well do you think Cadpat camo, I believe it's called would perform in your area? It's a Canadian military camo pattern that works great for me in areas with evergreens mixed with aspen.
@@nathanbigsby8731 Capdat seems too bright. Cadpat like aor2 would be amazing for wet tropical areas but not great in Canada unless fighting over a mowed grass football field. In the woods it ok but flecktarn is better and especially for October to May in Canada for 90% of the country it is way too bright green. Needs more brown and dead grass look. Marpat is probably better in that regard because way more brown. But I am not a fan of digital camo. It looks cool and works well up close but have heard because of the small pixels from a distance appears as one color and actually draws your eye to it unlike more separated pattern like flecktarn, dpm, multicam, etc. I don't like multicam because you need to be lying down in dead grass for it to work and ya then it's 'the best' but everything works when lying in long dead grass
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors I just got a German poncho pup tent amazing really, I've been looking into the jackets now stay strong&healthy safe&happy brotha!!(=✌💚
First, its "leibermuster" It is absolutely nothing like erdl. It was later a czech pattern. It was then bought and tweaked by the swiss. They are all the same family of camo with changes being made over the years.
I did alpenflage on my ar I put a video of it up cause it's awesome I love different camouflage I actually made it in leibermuster but it's the same basic thing
Yeah I love it I'm in central north Carolina and it works great around here year round even when everything is green it's definitely my favorite and my go to I wish more gear was made in it but I think you can buy a stencil for it online I drew mine myself on construction paper and then cut it out it was not easy to do but definitely worth it I might make a video on how to do it with a rifle I just bought and put it on here
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors yeah until then I got a new chest rig in woodland and I am going to try and use my stencil to add a little bit of red and white and blend it since it has pretty much all the other colors as leibermuster
I came here to start a fight with someone who made a stupid comment so you wouldn't have to, but there are no stupid comments yet... I guess I will have to wait a week and check back. ;)
Haha i love that! It will come! The market when learn how cool alpenflage is- then the companies that are currently mocking me for what I am doing will be scrambling to get some themselves.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors I agree, I also think other older camos will be coming back. I think there’s a growing portion of the gun community that would rather have their kit with a piece of history more than tacticool vanilla(multicam) ie the Rhodesian camo revival.
@@DannyRiskit i dont like the canvas- i like the 50% poly- Whats your issue with it? Breathability? Heat? Im interested, and ill look for the issue myself to see if I notice it as well.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors That's just how you pronounce it, It's not really translatable, but it essentially means alps pattern(camo). I think you said so in the video, but it's kind of a catch all civilian branding of that type of camo from the TAZ (der Tarnanzug) 57 series of BDU. Alpentarn / Alpenflage is pretty interchangeable.
I meant to get back to it. The Alps, + camou"flage" I have never heard anyone pronounce it like you said, but if some European wants to try to make it fancy good for them lol
The M83 jacket is also great for streetwear. The red makes it look really cool, and I've gotten compliments on mine very frequently.
I custom painted a Carhartt work jacket in this pattern and people who dig camo wear can't stop asking about it
I love this pattern, I wear it for airsoft and get laughed at a lot, but when it works better than the type 95, flecktarn and multicam that are popular here I am the one laughing!
If you look at it even from standart airsoft fighting distance the red disappears and blends into other colours while making interesting almost 3d effect that breaks up the outline better than most other patterns.
I've seen that pattern before, but I was so use to the woodland camouflage that I thought it was just some kind of designer camouflage. Shows you how much I know. Lol but now I think it's worth a shot.
I thought the same!
I like the idea of having your whole team in the same pattern. I picked up a bunch of British Desert shirts for cheap. I bought a bunch to give to my guys if I need to. Thanks again for the great video.
My pleasure! Thats legit!
You mean Desert Tiger worn by the 22ND SAS- Special Air Service or Desert DPM- Disruptive Pattern Material worn by the Britsh Army .
Was issued OD green in basic training, long ago. They started issuing woodland to new recruits shortly after. Had to buy my own woodland. Now I buy multicam.
I was issued ocp multicam in bct when I got to my unit a lot of my gear is digital pattern
@@dalewoods7308 ouch. I think we can all agree that digital is unnatural, to put it kindly.
@@bedeodempsey5007 digital is good. Nothing “unnatural” at all. This is a common misconception, and is not how camouflage works.
@@joenuts5167 by unnatural I am referring to the straight lines and squares that don't appear in nature. I understand that it can still work as camouflage, but I personally don't care for it. I can understand how some may like it.
You have such a beautiful and cute dog.
I used it for paint ball. It really did worked well and you really didn’t need any overt red color in the environment. It worked just as well in the greener summer months as it did in the fall when there was more reds.
Yupyup
I just googled it and found the Swiss Army issue Alpenflage M70 field jacket for $12.99. The matching M70 pants with suspenders were also $12.99. Thanks Jacob.
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Alpenflage is heavily underrated although i prefer your dogs choice in camo
Yeah it really works for him!
That Covid-1984 patch is 🔥 with the pants.
Agreed!!!
I roll with woodland bdu for my gear but I have to say my fav cammie pattern is what the bulgarian troops wore in Afghanistan. And they looked really breathable and comfortable
Can hardly beat woodland!
Ill have to look those up!
Yeah I liked them. But yeah woodlands are a good choice. I think it is important in a shtf situation to not look like the guys everyone is pissed at leading up to said event lol
Yup!!! Multicam and ocp prob isnt the best in that regard lol
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors exactly lol how do you feel about suppressors? I wouldn't want to keep it mounted on a 16 inch AR all the time but I figured it could have its benefits when shooting at night for flash reduction or if your on the move and the report of a shot isn't as obvious to a untrained ear. In a shtf event I'm meaning.
@@user-zp6nm6rt8k i would LOVE to have one- will I buy shelling out $ and kissing govt butt for one? No. There is no denying their potential advantages though, even just for flash suppression
I used the Swiss Camo for paint ball about 20 years ago. It was very effective and at the time it was very cheap and there seemed to be an unlimited supply.
It's still relatively cheap I think
I would definitely buy camo in this pattern.
I have not seen much of this camo in the UK but there is a little about. One I have always liked is US woodland.
Woodland is a winner!
Cool..!
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After observing your previous video I can believe you when you say it works as long as the reds in the pattern are that specific shade of red
Its a decent shade of red. Ill show its affectiveness soon :-)
I would go with Switzerland's Alpenflage for a Woodland uniform and Australia's AUSCAM for a Desert uniform .
How would the alpenflage gear hold up for camping? The pants and shirt are a 50/50 cotton polyester, I wouldn't be taking the jacket because I'd take a pack.
It depends on which gear you get but in my experience it all holds up.
I would dissapear role playing as opposition force with this camo on Ft Lewis in Washington State in green timber and brush.
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That swiss is the jam in fall 👍
Godd cammo! Sure works here in the Pacific NW during later summer and fall months! Love my suit!
Try it out in the middle of summer and winter as well, you might be surprised. I am from the pnw where I started using it because my dad was opfor at Lewis and it was what they wore.
Unless you are in a perfectly white environment this stuff will surprise you! Or anyone looking for you.
I spent most of the nineties in alpenflage. Good times.
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Did you have camo issues with it in that time?
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors TBH my alpenflage was used in a strictly urban jungle back then. It did appear to keep predators at bay (especially on the rare occasions when the face veil would be drunkenly deployed). I actually loved all the matching pieces (parka, pants, & backpack) & the material was nice & heavy.
Actually "Leibermuster" was the Name for the original pattern from Germany during WWII. One of the companies involved in developing was called Hellmut Leiber and Leiber ("Leib") can also refer to the German word for Body, so it´s also a little Pun.... And the red and brown tones in the German Camo-Patterns from that time come from the fact, that Germany was already in developing IR-Scopes etc. and that was considered when developing those patterns. You still see it in the Flecktarn....
I don't know why you lead off with "actually" lol
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Sorry, my english isn't the best.... Regards from Germany ;-) Maybe I used it in the wrong sense.
No problem, I asked because I wasn't sure if I had accidentally misrepresented the camo in the video or forgot to mention it's history.
But I am well familiar with the different stages, iterations, and nations that used alpenflage
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Yeah, I just used "actually" without that deep meaning. Most people here in Europe don't know about the history etc. about those patterns and get a little irritated..... haha
@johnmoder5306 understandable!
Its no big deal, but here actually is often... a bit... aggressive? Idk. Borderline rude possibly. It depends a lot on context.
If you want to be really sassy you write it like aCtuAlLy or AKtuAlLy with random capitalization haha
I always thought it was a Swiss pattern. I was just razzing you on the last vid. I've almost bought some a few times over the years. I see the utility in it.
Oh its ugly! Haha no denying that! Maybe its even half the fun 🤷♂️
I wish it was as cheap and plentiful as it used to be.
On the dl- I am altering the pattern and thinking about releasing it as my own.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Do it!
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Do it, but darken up the red some. I live in the northeast part of Washington state, which varies from green to red. None of the popular camos seem to work across the board. I have spent years hiking the mountains with my brindle Great Dane and she blends in so well in all environments. Do you know of any brindle type camo patterns? I know of tiger stripe camo but there is just too much contrast and it doesn't blend good here.
I like the alpenflage and all those German/swiss/Austrian patterns... Make the stuff I'm in...
Im also love this patterny cheap And efective af
It's an intriguing camo....a like dpm and flecktarn in primis
man o war would def wear this camo.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors yuuuuuuuup
Another great video, keep it up. By the way is your dog a Catahoula?
No, he is a texas heeler
I own the surplus swiss canteens and they are some of the best
Ill have to check them out!
Looking forward to see the effectiveness
The taz 70 jacket is better as taz 83 and hello from Swiss
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Shot in the dark on an old vid....when you order this from Europe (looks like most comes from same place in Lithuania) do you order the sizes like you would in US? If a medium here , do you order a medium jacket ? And waist /inseam, does it seem to mesh with jeans you order in US?
I havent ordered from Europe before except from Varustaleke who usually gives pretty accurate US sizes.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors nice ok, where do you order your alpenflage from in the states ? Thanks again
@@m07c idk man, wherever google takes me that has the best price. I dont have a favorite milsurp source but i do avoid general surplus.
side note, you can get this camo BRAND NEW if you buy WW2 German reproduction gear.
Then you lose the cost benefit.
I live in Colorado I think it may stand out like a target , there are no reds here except aspens in the fall
How well do you think Cadpat camo, I believe it's called would perform in your area? It's a Canadian military camo pattern that works great for me in areas with evergreens mixed with aspen.
There doesn't need to be blatant, pure reds visible for it to work
It’s literally made for environments like colorado
@@nathanbigsby8731 Capdat seems too bright. Cadpat like aor2 would be amazing for wet tropical areas but not great in Canada unless fighting over a mowed grass football field. In the woods it ok but flecktarn is better and especially for October to May in Canada for 90% of the country it is way too bright green. Needs more brown and dead grass look. Marpat is probably better in that regard because way more brown. But I am not a fan of digital camo. It looks cool and works well up close but have heard because of the small pixels from a distance appears as one color and actually draws your eye to it unlike more separated pattern like flecktarn, dpm, multicam, etc. I don't like multicam because you need to be lying down in dead grass for it to work and ya then it's 'the best' but everything works when lying in long dead grass
I love Alpenflage !
Bcs its my country 💪🏻🇨🇭
What about the Flecktarn camo?? Love that pattern looks nasty in all places to
Im a fan of flecktarn! And you can get SO much gear in flecktarn- and Cordura nylon for modern gear too!
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors I just got a German poncho pup tent amazing really, I've been looking into the jackets now stay strong&healthy safe&happy brotha!!(=✌💚
@@Canadian_Craftsman heck yeah, winning!
Libermuster is German Camouflage Pattern.
First, its "leibermuster"
It is absolutely nothing like erdl.
It was later a czech pattern.
It was then bought and tweaked by the swiss.
They are all the same family of camo with changes being made over the years.
I’m a flecktarn fan.
Me too
It works better or as good as desert in NE usa summer time.
Impressive!
I did alpenflage on my ar I put a video of it up cause it's awesome I love different camouflage I actually made it in leibermuster but it's the same basic thing
That is cool! I'll have to do that!
Yeah I love it I'm in central north Carolina and it works great around here year round even when everything is green it's definitely my favorite and my go to I wish more gear was made in it but I think you can buy a stencil for it online I drew mine myself on construction paper and then cut it out it was not easy to do but definitely worth it I might make a video on how to do it with a rifle I just bought and put it on here
@PUCK.GUN.LAWS1 that's dedication! It's finally getting more popular thankfully so more gear will be available in the pattern soon I think.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors yeah until then I got a new chest rig in woodland and I am going to try and use my stencil to add a little bit of red and white and blend it since it has pretty much all the other colors as leibermuster
I came here to start a fight with someone who made a stupid comment so you wouldn't have to, but there are no stupid comments yet... I guess I will have to wait a week and check back. ;)
Hahaha heck yeah
I'll throw one out. Give me a minute.😏
Any update on fabric from Germany or products?
Things are being pushed back. I swear everything I am trying to have produced is getting pushed way back
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors no worries just checking, #MAGA(Make Alpenflage Great Again).
Haha i love that! It will come! The market when learn how cool alpenflage is- then the companies that are currently mocking me for what I am doing will be scrambling to get some themselves.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors I agree, I also think other older camos will be coming back. I think there’s a growing portion of the gun community that would rather have their kit with a piece of history more than tacticool vanilla(multicam) ie the Rhodesian camo revival.
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I like the pattern, hate the material
There are two different materials- a cotton canvas and a half cotton half poly material. Do you hate both?
I have the poly. I'll admit I havent tried the canvas
@@DannyRiskit i dont like the canvas- i like the 50% poly-
Whats your issue with it? Breathability? Heat? Im interested, and ill look for the issue myself to see if I notice it as well.
Breathability (which leads to heat). And noise
Ill look into that, I havent had an issue with noise and I thought breathability was pretty good. Ill look into this specifically
Alpenflage (all-pin flah-geh).
Says who?
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Are you asking who says it's pronounced that way?
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors That's just how you pronounce it, It's not really translatable, but it essentially means alps pattern(camo). I think you said so in the video, but it's kind of a catch all civilian branding of that type of camo from the TAZ (der Tarnanzug) 57 series of BDU. Alpentarn / Alpenflage is pretty interchangeable.
I meant to get back to it. The Alps, + camou"flage"
I have never heard anyone pronounce it like you said, but if some European wants to try to make it fancy good for them lol
Red ? ....never seen that in the woods of Florida. No thanks.
Then you havent been looking
Hey! It's the stupid comment! Jacob said we would find you here!
What?? Lmao where are you from there’s red everywhere