Thanks for watching Justice For All everyone. It's been a good run playing Phoenix Wright again. I'll be playing the final game in the Trilogy sometime next year when I feel like it. In the meanwhile, you're welcome to watch the entire edited series via this playlist. Myself and Cloé have worked incredibly hard on these supercuts for these games! ua-cam.com/video/5tUoqIcvG34/v-deo.html
Honestly very clever to have Mia possess Maya and look around so that she can then possess Pearl and report on her surroundings. It's a fun use of having two spirit mediums that almost makes up for the fact that they never try to channel the actual victim and ask what happened.
well tbf the last time they channeled the victim, it traumatized Edgeworth so badly that Phoenix changed his career and it became the catalyst for the entire AA universe
I believe Edgeworth’s case is a good show of why even the victim’s testimony can’t be reliable and this whole song and dance is still necessary. I’m also certain they’d either lie on the stand to blame someone they hate or protect someone they love/are denial has killed them, or they would genuinely believe they were killed by the wrong person. No AA case is ever that easy.
@crazyminegamer2339 yeah, three out of four of JFA alone's cases wouldn't have been helped by spirit channeling. Case 1's Dustin Prince was probably pushed from behind and never saw the face of his killer. Case 3's Ringmaster had something dropped on his head and likewise wouldn't have seen his killer. And case 4's Juan Corrida just saw Shelly de Killer and thus wouldn't have been able to tell us who hired the assassin.
And the evidence will somehow end up incriminating her, because a body double committed the murder so it takes several hours of testimony digging to work out she was actually in the box, since she was knocked out at the time.
it's not like its the first time a case has shown you who the murderer is off the bat. Both tutorial cases of aa1 and aa2 reveal the murderer in the opening cutscene, it's not necessarily about the destination, but the journey, in a way. In fact, several cases have the killer confront you before the final trial day, confirming that they're the real criminal. What makes ace attorney cases interesting is the how and why, slowly piecing together the bigger picture and figuring out ways to prove what you already suspect.
@@honkstheclown8631 2-4 is my favorite case because it sets the foundation for De Killer. SPOILERS AHEAD. In Investigations 2, De Killer was on the hunt for Di-Jun Huang's body double for being a disgrace and bringing shame on the De Killer name (also he was contracted by Simon Keyes to kill the real president, only to learn that he was already long dead with the body double running Zheng Fa) and during the attempted assassination at the Gourd Lake meeting in which a man named Ethan Rooke was killed (by a fellow bodyguard of Di-Jun Huang, named Horace Knightley) De Killer saves Edgeworth's investigation and gives him a vital piece of information, that he wasn't who killed Rooke. De Killer does definitely have a very unique moral compass, but it is as he said in 2-4, he does do his job with honor.
Still really gotta know how maya still stays sane after being accused for murder like 5 times and then getting kidnapped and about to be _murdered_ like man this girl needs a vacation
@@etourdie (potential spirit of justice spoilers) /// doesnt she also get accused of murder again? Im only up to aa5 so far but if thats true then poor maya lmaoo
@@Syllvie Naw. Maya? Accused of murdering someone? In an Ace Attorney game? In a region were there's a lot of spiritual energy? Couldn't be. And if she were accused of murder, I'm sure she would be awake and alert, able to testify as to what she saw
I feel like Edgeworth's "cheese with that vintage whine" joke didn't get the appreciation it deserves here. It's legitimately the best line in the game
so, we have “but why was grossberg at the boathouse” from the first game, and now it’s safe to say we have the “but why did engarde send phoenix to feed the cat in his home” from this game, oh boy
Wendy Oldbag is kind of an anti-Maya. Maya's favourites get accused of murder (Powers, now Engarde the Nickel Samurai), Wendy's favourites get to be the victims (Jack Hammer, now Juan Corrida)
No, it’s them hearing the cat’s signature meow over the phone, immediately putting 2&2 together for once and immediately call a police raid on the suspected area. It actually kinda shocked me how fast they took action compared to most situations
@@cjadams9658 Tbf that one stunt worked out really well for Phoenix in the end. Sure, he got punched in the face and accused of the murder, but if Redd White hadn't fallen for the taunt and testified in court he probably would have never been exposed as the murderer. Gloating to Vasquez and von Karma was definitely a mistake, though.
1:57:22, while I do admit that it seems quite funny that Phoenix is talking about the psyche locks so openly, I will say that it is one of my favorite scenes from the trilogy. Phoenix is so exhausted from this whole case that he no longer cares if he sounds insane or not, he only cares about Maya´s safety, and that is something that really surprised the first time I played it. It´s a desperate man dealing with a desperate situation.
Hey Edgeworth has that whole logic chess connect-the-dots puzzle thing going on so he really can't judge at this point (and later in T&T Edgeworth sees the magatamas power for himself soo)
i've always found it hilarious that this whole case ends up relying on the fact Adrian Andrews has a gender neutral name so De Killer slips up. if she had a more traditionally feminine name he could've kept the ruse going for longer. Also Fun Fact: in the original Version of this game there's a typo in the super depressing bad end that sucks all the sadness out of it. "The Miracle never happen" thus remains a classic AA meme
That could've always been rewritten to be him slipping up and referring to when he actually talked with Engarde. That's what I thought it was at first.
Hey so, about the whole plothole about why Matt sent you to feed Shoe, there are lots of indicators to say that Matt didn't know that Maya was taken captive in his house. 1: Matt is completely unaware that you were sent as his lawyer by De Killer until you drop his name in conversation, when he suddenly changes his mind about you defending him, 2: De Killer was already feeding Shoe so there would be no reason to send you if he knew this, and 3: Matt doesn't seem to know the specific reason as to why you're forced to defend him until Pearl cries "Mystic Maya" while questioning him, and only after that point does he speak of you losing a friend. So stupid that you know this location by the pure chance of him asking YOU of all people, yes, but I think calling it a plothole is a bit of an overstatement.
Exactly! I always read it like this because not only Matt seems to be unaware of the kidnapping before hearing deKiller's name, it's also not very likely he and deKiller had any communication after the body was found and Matt got arrested, which made deKiller decide to kidnap Maya on his own. And as deKiller isn't actually his butler and is seen to have disguise/alias when in public, it's likely he never took that role in front of Matt and just lied to Phoenix so he would leave. Matt is also clearly full of himself so him making mistakes in his plans because of his ego would also make sense.
Its not so much a plothole as it is a plot contrivance. They couldn't think of a better way to get Phoenix to go to Engarde's house and they hope you don't think about it too hard. And considering how ridiculous these games are, this is pretty minor
The whip lash between literally the worse case in the entire series with some of the worse characters in the entire series to one of the best cases in the series with one of the best supporting characters in Adrian Andrews is wild every time.
In the next game: Maya visits the Library of Alexandra. Afterwards, Phoenix has to prove that Maya never burnt down the library in question, despite the fact Maya is currently seen in the entire case with a lit lighter and a barrel of propane.
@@BMWM3GTR2001 don't forget her going on vacation and getting arrested, thus forcing Wright to fly across the globe to represent her. This girl is freaking cursed.
One of favorite details of this case is Adrian's and Matt's animations. Every character is this game has quirks and unique animations. Matt already has his "calling" animation quirk, so you think that's all he has. Adrian doesn't have many quirks besides playing with the card, so you think she'll get more when she starts to break down in court, when she is proven guilty. But then it's revealed Matt is the true bad guy, and has a entire set of evil animations. Very clever, AA team.
Another neat way AA uses animation: Polly! Yes, Polly only has one sprite, but it's *never shown to you* until you put Polly on the stand. They just fake you out with an evidence-style image of Polly, the same as Missile and Shoe use. You never have a clue the parrot is able to be cross examined up until it happens.
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RT's unbridled joy at seeing Edgeworth again makes me really happy. It's pretty much a complete 180 from Dan's (and most people's) reaction to him from cases 2 and 3 from the first game before he started to warm up to him. I think it's a testament to how great Miles' character is and how the writers made him seem grating to sympathetic to beloved in the span of 2 games (or 1, if you're me lol) (Edit: I dunno how the comments got to where they are, go down there at your own risk)
In a future case: Edgeworth: As you can see, we have decisive evidence showing the defendant with his hands around the victim's neck. *Dramatic confrontation music plays* Phoenix: Guitarists hold guitar necks all the time; are you saying that all guitarists are suspicious?
6:21 Pearl: "Um, Mr. Nick, is the dead person the nickel samurai?" Phoenix: "Huh, why do you ask?" Pearl: "Mystic Maya was rooting for him, so..." Y'know, that's actually a good point. EVERYONE that Maya has been in contact with has either been beaten, assaulted, murdered, accused of murder, accessory to a murder, or the murderer themselves. It's actually kinda concerning tbh
The main story of this game isn't just 'what happened to edgeworth', that's only part of it. Unlike the first game, the main story isn't some big long running plothtead, it is instead more of a character thing. The man story of the second game is one question: "what is Phoenix Wright's identity? what does being a defence attorney mean?" That's why it starts with Pheonix with amnesia, forgetting his identity and slowly regaining who he is, and its why Wellington says that big speech towards the end questioning Phoenix's identity, it's putting the idea to the forefront. In the second case we see phoenix recconnect with old friends, old annoyances and coming into conflict with Maya's past via her evil aunt. Here we see how he as, a lawayer, approaches his friends and the seeming vengaence of someone affected by his actions. In the third case we see how phoenix deals with a client who's not only a strnager and weirdo but is also not entirely innocent, and further shakes up the formula with a killer who is very sympathetic. Its also where its revealed what happened to Edgeworth (seemingly) and how it affects phoenix, making him bitter and lashing out by painting prosecutors in a bad light, making himself feel more justified and primed for the final case where everything is turned on its head. And so, we come to the final case. Here, phoenix is challenged by a client who IS guilty of the crime he's charged with. What will phoenix do? will he fight for a not guilty verdict no matter the cost and thus be no different from the prosecutors he hated and accused them of? Is he only driven by the wellbeing of his friends and not of anyone else? Will he choose a guilty verdict and lose? if he fails, how will it affect him? WHo is phoenix wright, ace attorney? that's the core plot of Justice For All.
I hated that stupid circus case but DANG if they didn’t have an interesting villain to reflect on! The entire game was kinda questioning Phoenixs morality. He accused a young girls mother of murder, a disabled man who was a victim of a lot of unfortunate accidents that caused him to go over the edge and who’s story is basically a Greek tragedy, and he was close to convicting an innocent person to prison while KNOWING who it really was! The entire game I was questioning myself and Phoenixs place in the story, and DANG was it emotional. Genuinely such an interesting game.
Also its pretty cool that the player chooses the final question of who phoenix is, by pleading guilty or not guilty knowing that justice will be served either way. Is winning the case and keeping that stellar record more important, or supporting the truth?
The amount of thinking and brain power RT was doing to try and fit all the pieces together to tie it all back to the Mafia as part of some larger conspiracy is the equivalent of that infamous Charlie Day Billboard meme and I love it!
@@sans5466 there's a show starring Charlie Day called It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. In that show there's an episode where he and his friend get a job in an office. He's working in the mail room and loses his mind and starts building this conspiracy theory about a guy called Pepe Sylvia and EVERYTHING is connected to him, like literally everything all comes back to this one man whom he then hallucinates and screams about. It's a very funny scene from a funny show and the picture where he's looking at a wall he's covered with pictures and string has become a meme of sorts. Just look up the phrase Pepe Sylvia here on UA-cam surely you'll find the scene and get a good laugh.
The cut at 34:36 is so great. Edgeworth talking about how Andrew's copying her mentor to keep herself sane, and then immediately cutting to F. Von Karma, who is doing the exact same thing but with M. Von Karma, is such a wonderful touch. I don't know if that was intentional by Cloe or Dan, but that was very well done.
also gives new life to fransika's line about andrews being weak, and the eventual friendship that is implied in the credits as andrews gets a new pillar and fransika starts to move on.
Sounds of ptsd: -clown laughs -Manfred von karma’s voice -Whip cracking -Maya saying anything bad Actions affected by some of these -blinking because apparently that’s how long it takes for Maya to be accused of war crimes.
I like “I know bluffing things until you win is usually your strategy, Wright, but your reputation called, and they told me to tell you that you should rethink things.” Phoenix: “Y-Yes Daddy.”
@@garfieldisgod3656 it's the only logical explanation considering all the stuff he should have heard but did not say anything Edit: it also makes sense why the guard goes negative with the background when the megatama is used
@@Howduhbee it's a play on words. to be "at large" means that you are a criminal who is running around free. if you escape from jail you are "at large" until you are caught again.
"Now the moment you've all been waiting for!" Me who's been waiting for Von Karma reprisal: "Yes Phoenix, as you can see it was I that withheld the final case from you and placed it in the Chemical Factory and there's nothing you can do about it!" "Von Karma No!"
1:38:16 ok i totally forgot that gumshoe made a bug sweeper in elementary school... his passion for detective work is as enduring and deeply ingrained in him as miles and phoenix's passion for lawyering 🥺 i love him
I’m crying at how much I love Detective Gumshoe. He tries his best. It doesn’t matter if he sometimes gives the opposite side info because as long as the real criminal is caught Gumshoe did a good job. I love him, he is so sweet and genuine.
@@sponge1234ify Yeah but that doesn't necessarily mean she was attracted to karma, especially when karma is giving advice that could potentially save her life
De Killer: "This is the first time my client has been accused of murder" The rest of the courtroom: **trying their hardest to figure out who his client is, in a trial where one man has been accused of murder**
dont forget andrews, the one de killer is framing. at the point in the case where he takes the stand, Phoenix has established the possibility that she did it. Phoenix is the accuser, making 2 people accused, only one of which could be de killer's client.
from the last case to the court allowing people to talk to ghosts and use it as evidence i still say the most unrealistic part about of this series is the fact that witnesses dont get in trouble for lying in court
@@terrorloc100 spoilers for Apollo Justice / AA4: I also love that so many people willingly forge evidence, but in the flashback even just unwittingly presenting forged evidence was enough to get Phoenix completely disbarred without any appeal
@@utterclown1580 well i mean pretty much the only other people that forge evidence are culprits who get charged for worse crimes or manfred von karma who never got caught
I really really liked her whole speech and sprite-design there It just made it so much clearer that below all of that tough and perfect facade, she's just a kid trying to live up to the expectations people place on her and nearly breaking in doing so
@@tragediansdemise5033 Yeah, we need to remember that she was still 18 years at that moment. Imagine being so young and already having to live up to high expectations, amd then you fail at reaching them. One would understand why she showed emotion at the end, and I love her now because of that moment lol
Yknow now that I rewatched from the beginning, the Feed Shoe loophole actually makes more sense. In the beginning, Matt didn't even seemed to know that Shelly had a deal with Wright, and Matt only accepted Wright as his lawyer when Wright said "de Killer". It does seem like Matt and De Killer seemed to have limited communication, maybe they have very inconvinent methods of communications to keep De Killer untrackable, and therefore they both aren't on the same page 100% of the time. It could be that Matt only knew about the deal later on without knowing the detail of where Maya was held hostage.
I imagine RT and De Killer would get along well. They would probably go and play Hitman together. I'd say RT would even record it, and post it on UA-cam. The title would be "RT and DK play Hitman to find out who's the best assassin".
I legitimately cannot tell if Daniel was serious or not about the mafia gambling ring betting on the results of children's show mascot popularity contests. His theories sound too absurd to be genuine, but he delivers them with such conviction that I just can't be sure.
I love how in the discord livestream chat while this was live, people completed a full bingo on the things that would happen on this case with RT's stream
@@YasEmisDaBusdefinitely, and I meant predictions like "Chat freaking out about shoe" "RT would select not guilty at the very end" "English major joke" Etc, etc. And not like, spoiler territory predictions
I saw a comment on the vod video about feeding the cat. Their explanation was that it was a taunt. Matt Engarde, so sure of himself to a fault, sent Phoenix to feed his cat to mock him, as Maya was only two doors away. Matt also wanted to reassure his butler that he could still reveal him. I don’t know why everyone was so pent up on this, the real question is why was Grossburg at the boathouse
Well there's also the likelihood that Matt didn't even know that de killer took a hostage to get hire a defense attorney for him as Matt had no clue as to why Phoenix wanted to defend him until he accidentally dropped de killer's name
While I agree Matt is full of himself I think it's more likely Matt didn't know Maya was kept hostage in his home as it's very unlikely deKiller could've contacted Matt after the body was found and he was arrested.
Matt couldn't "*reassure* his butler that he could still reveal him", since the butler had no idea Matt had that intention until the videotape evidence was brought up. Though, I agree that feeding the cat would definitely work as a way of Matt just playing with Wright. I don't think it was intentional by any means; I think Shoe was quite literally shoehorned in to give a tie-in for "revealing" de Killer's location, but written intention versus read meaning aren't one and the same.
I love how (comparatively) serious Dan and his editors got whenever the image of Celeste's suicide appeared on screen, even censoring it and putting a warning on this here supercut. Even if I'm not heavily affected by those topics I understand how seriously it can affect other people and I'm glad Dan's as comprehensive and caring as he is.
Yeah uh the first time they tried it in a trial it uh resulted in Gregory Edgeworth's death and the fey clan disgrace and dahlia becoming a demon woman and killing two people
@@LinkJTO spoilers if you haven't finished the vid! Going in columns from top to bottom: B- Jokingly predicted twist, Getting stuck on some bullshit, Chat freaks out over Shoe, alosing it at transceiver testimony, RT breaks over game/chat I- "Help me out chat", Badge is presented, "Von Karma, no!", Gumshoe appreciation, Miracle never happen N- Mafia, Hit on the judge (funni dialouge), Chat is Gay (free space), "The judge should be fired", * thematic musings* G- Selecting "Not Guilty" at the end, Failed post-case present (whip), 3+ "Oh shit"s, "English Major", Non-judge voice morphs into goofy again O- RT BIG BRAIN, Chat derails the stream, In character donations, Guessing Suicide Note's Location, Content Warning (Take Care of yourselves, all
Edgeworth is forever and always my favorite prosecutor because he and Phoenix still respect each other, they’re don’t actually hate each other but it’s the sexual tension that comes from the arguing that makes this relationship so special
Personally I still find it more satisfying to say engarde's guilty at the end. Yes it does mean engarde doesn't declare himself guilty out of fear, BUT it does lead to pheonix decalring "I cannot defend a clearly gulty man" and Engarde being in disbelief that after everything he's done to win, his reputation is ruined and his freedom is lost forever.
I like the option for not guilty more Nit just because yes it mean that if he possibly doesn't end up getting locked up, de killer will murder tf out of him, but also because I think it fits in another way narritively (both options fit very well narritively). He's so arrogantly seen himself as above or better than others and takes too much advantage of the influence he has and his pride makes him want to constantly lord that over those around him (take a look at his interactions with Phoenix and Pearl for example. He gloats about how much bad stuff he's done and even says "because i can". He puts Wright in a position that makes known to him that he is extremely stuck while Matt can just do whatever he pleases at this point and win). But in the end, those very same characteristics that even brought some to their deaths, turns out to be the largest bite in the ass he could've ever done, as his tendency to lord his power over others pushed him to record de killer so he could lord over the assassin. In doing that, he makes himself a target by that same assassin. Pleading "not guilty" gives him a HUGE "...oh fuck" moment in knowing for a fact that he isn't above others, especially in the moment. He becomes the most weak person in the room and desperately pleads guilty in an attempt to save his own life. It's extremely satisfying to see if you consider all of that lol. And very well put together when you think of how it causes his previous traits and actions to contrast COMPLETELY in every single way how he behaves and what the future may have in store for him lol.
Yeah, I really like pleading not guilty, just so Engarde gets absolutely monkey’s pawed. “Here’s the verdict you wanted. Hope it doesn’t bite you in the ass”
I think he had researched a little after the Gatewater hotel case in the first game, because he wondered why a lot of crime hotels in media carried similar names (that or chat told him) and I'm very surprised he remembered it :D That I'm misremembering the whole thing but-
How fitting that the game where the final case is about trying to fight with whether or not you should convict Engarde should be called Justice For All
It fits with every case. Wellington was a scumbag who had it coming, Miney was a grief-stricken sister trying to get revenge on the doctor who killed her sister, Acro was a man only hanging on out of hope his brother would wake up, and Engarde blackmailed you into nearly convicting an innocent woman to save Maya's life.
It was kind of a way of saying "You'll end up like him if you continue this path, you muppet!" And in some ways she took the hint. While others she didn't catch a damn thing
- "For all we know Maya could be dead!" - "And then we will hear the spirits of the dead testify, cause they have something to say!" Just you wait RT! JUST YOU WAIT!!!
Yeah, I kind of like that it gets brought up again. Like in a later case in AAI, Franziska is alarmed when Edgeworth mentioned the Nickel Samurai, meaning she must be traumatized since she was shot in her shoulder before that trial. A nice tidbit, I thought.
There are probably other members of the von Karma family still around, Miles is kind of part of them. We know Manfred has a granddaughter. Also, in terms of other relatives, do you think Uncle Ray might count?
@@TorrentialStardust potentially? I don’t know if he would be too far our family to be trusted with the handling of Miles’ belongings though. Usually it’s children/parents and siblings? So the mysterious other Von Karma child that gave Manfred a grandchild would potentially have a right to handle Miles’ stuff, but due to their estrangement (we never really see them At All) I would guess they probably wouldn’t volunteer to sort his affairs?
Gotta say, got a little teary when Maya came back at the very end. This isn’t my first time watching this case, but i was still super invested. Every minute of the case was packed with tension, and it was brilliantly constructed
I wonder if he will know people simp extra hard for Godot before even getting to him? Also... correct pronunciation of Godot... or EXTRA CORRECT pronunciation of Godot?
I'm pretty sure in this game and possibly actual Japan, the prosecutor's office is in charge of the police. So the prosecutor gets all the information and also have authority over what the police do and how they do it. It's why the conviction rate is so high.
Realizing that the card at the very end, was in fact the drawing Maya drew while she was kidnapped to cheer herself up, after seeing this fight for Maya’s life and the emotional moments that ensued, was the tipping point that had me emotional. Even with RT’s comedic commentary and the ridiculousness of the plot itself, something about that card really, really drives the heartfelt story home in a way that reminds me why I love this game so much.
Petty dumb note: Shelly De Killer is not a serial killer, he is a contract killer. Now im not defending his actions by any means, but there is a difference. De Killer takes no personal pride in killing, he takes pride in completing contracts as he states as much. However in another ace attorney game. (Miles Edgeworth investigations 2) He states he dislikes unnecessary killing so its clear that he is indifferent to suffering of others thus making him at the very least a sociopath. That said, he doesn't seem to the exhibit the psychological impulse's or traits exhibited by serial killers. You may bring up the calling card, however that was not started by him as he points out "De Killer" is just a title that multiple people have assumed over the years. So potentially his predecessor may have counted as both a contract/serial killer but this one does not. Thank you for reading my stupid nitpicky complaint about a fictional killers title. Have a great day regardless.
@@orangesilver8 Not quite. Look up the definitions. For instance Joe Darke from the first game kills multiple people in a short period of time. He wasn't a serial killer despite the games mislabeling of him. Darke would be officially termed as a spree killer. Which is someone who kills at two or more locations with almost no time break between the murders. I hope this didn't come off as hostile or rude that was not the intent.
Remember Kids: Having facial scarring does not make you in any way worse or lesser people, nor are people with facial deformities in any way "more evil"
No of course not, it's the menacingly slicking your hair back and pulling out a comically large glass of, uh, I'm guessing whiskey? That's the thing that makes you look more evil
man this case is so unbelievably good. from how it completely turns the usual 'defending someone innocent' into something so different, to how it manages to be incredibly tense while literally naming the killer 'de killer'... and seeing edgeworth and phoenix completely in sync, completely on the same side, is so deeply satisfying after you spent all of last game finding out how much they mean to each other. and of course franziska is one of the best AA characters period. just... so much good in here.
I believe Matt Engarde told the attorneys to feed Shoe because he didn't trust De Killer to do it - he got blackmail of him, after all. Matt's distrust of De Killer makes him his own worst enemy, at every turn.
This entire case made enduring Turnabout Big Top worth it. This case did the whole defending someone that wasnt a good person thing way better than turnabout big top did.
45:00 Lawyers in the United States have a duty of candor. They cannot lie nor can they elicit testimony they know to be false. Doing so would be grounds for disbarment. That being said, even setting aside the dystopian court system in these games, Wright isn't doing anything wrong by defending Engarde or withholding information that hasn't been requested of him. Wright, at this point, does not know Engarde committed a crime, and does not elicit any false testimony. Everyone has the right to a zealous advocate.
This case was absolutely insane; Maya being held captive by the known killer who was tesifying in court while on the run from Gumshoe as Phoenix has to sabotage the effort to prove his client innocent in a role reversal with Edgeworth. What a ride!
fun fact: the victim's surname, corrida, literally means "c*m" in Castilian Spanish anyways good job at these Dan! you've done very well, we really appreciate the effort you put into these videos
for me this is the best written case in all the first trilogy. From the beginning the stakes are so high, and the plot twist almost at the end is genius, never seen before, it makes you and phoenix question so much about what is right. 10/10 if you ask me
Ohh something I never thought about Spoilers for that game below btw: Since de killer has another target in that game, and we have no proof of him ever taking multiple hits at once, maybe that means Matt got murdered lmaooo At least I hope so
What I'd like to know is why the Judge isn't in on the whole kidnapping thing, I mean the trial would have gone a LOT longer and smoother if the Judge knows Matt Engard is holding someone hostage to declare himself guilty.
i feel like the second word got out to anyone who could actually do something about it, de killer wouldve killed maya. thats kinda the point of blackmail here i think
I like how sometimes RT can perfectly guess how the entire trial is going to go down, and other times he can convince himself of plot points that don’t exist.
if i had a nickel for every samurai named after metal that got charged for murder in a case involving wendy oldbag and identity theft, i'd have two nickels. which isn't a lot but it's weird that its happened twice
for as memey as a man named "De Killer" being an assassin and have a strange set of morals is, it's also important to remark that he got away with kidnapping, his little present for Phoenix and injuring three officers when going back for his stuff. he could've gotten away with shooting a prosecutor in an elevator without a bullet in his shoulder as well.
Thanks for watching Justice For All everyone. It's been a good run playing Phoenix Wright again. I'll be playing the final game in the Trilogy sometime next year when I feel like it. In the meanwhile, you're welcome to watch the entire edited series via this playlist. Myself and Cloé have worked incredibly hard on these supercuts for these games! ua-cam.com/video/5tUoqIcvG34/v-deo.html
You and Cloe are amazing for all of your hard work!!
This case was intense
i find it amazing that it took you this long to get the watergate reference despite the fact that the gatewater hotel was in case 2 of the first game
I really want to hear you voice everyone from case 3 and Godot, but I am content with waiting a little
Edit: And the Ace Detective, obviously
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Honestly very clever to have Mia possess Maya and look around so that she can then possess Pearl and report on her surroundings. It's a fun use of having two spirit mediums that almost makes up for the fact that they never try to channel the actual victim and ask what happened.
well tbf the last time they channeled the victim, it traumatized Edgeworth so badly that Phoenix changed his career and it became the catalyst for the entire AA universe
Somehow I forgot that was the catalyst
@@nutelasaur9453 Was it why he became a defense attorney, or why he stopped being one.
I believe Edgeworth’s case is a good show of why even the victim’s testimony can’t be reliable and this whole song and dance is still necessary. I’m also certain they’d either lie on the stand to blame someone they hate or protect someone they love/are denial has killed them, or they would genuinely believe they were killed by the wrong person. No AA case is ever that easy.
@crazyminegamer2339 yeah, three out of four of JFA alone's cases wouldn't have been helped by spirit channeling. Case 1's Dustin Prince was probably pushed from behind and never saw the face of his killer. Case 3's Ringmaster had something dropped on his head and likewise wouldn't have seen his killer. And case 4's Juan Corrida just saw Shelly de Killer and thus wouldn't have been able to tell us who hired the assassin.
The fact that pearls is aware that everytime maya associates with someone, they either get murdered or accused of murder is quite hilarious
Ironically not even Phoenix is safe from the curse
Im waiting the time pearls is the one accused of murder
@@HardGuess for a moment i thought you meant he was killed and i was like “when???”
edit: i forgot that that happened twice in the games lmao
@@livispuzzled well I’m surprised that the curse hasn’t reached Phoenix yet
@@tvs26 AA7 is gonna be wild 💀
If you lock Maya in a box, this box will inevitably crush somebody's head
By a disabled former acrobat no less
@@スガル NO PLEASE let me forget that shitshow
@@Zoe-hb2oj *NEVER!*
@@Zoe-hb2oj AHA AHA AHA AHA AHA AHA AHA AHA AHA AHA!
And the evidence will somehow end up incriminating her, because a body double committed the murder so it takes several hours of testimony digging to work out she was actually in the box, since she was knocked out at the time.
Genuinely impressed that they managed to create an intriguing mystery despite literally naming the killer “de killer”
it's not like its the first time a case has shown you who the murderer is off the bat. Both tutorial cases of aa1 and aa2 reveal the murderer in the opening cutscene, it's not necessarily about the destination, but the journey, in a way. In fact, several cases have the killer confront you before the final trial day, confirming that they're the real criminal. What makes ace attorney cases interesting is the how and why, slowly piecing together the bigger picture and figuring out ways to prove what you already suspect.
@@honkstheclown8631 plus the grammar error in the bad end that ruins the moment and makes it funny, really good case
@@ClownOwO the second case of the first game showed the murderer immediately
@@honkstheclown8631 2-4 is my favorite case because it sets the foundation for De Killer. SPOILERS AHEAD.
In Investigations 2, De Killer was on the hunt for Di-Jun Huang's body double for being a disgrace and bringing shame on the De Killer name (also he was contracted by Simon Keyes to kill the real president, only to learn that he was already long dead with the body double running Zheng Fa) and during the attempted assassination at the Gourd Lake meeting in which a man named Ethan Rooke was killed (by a fellow bodyguard of Di-Jun Huang, named Horace Knightley) De Killer saves Edgeworth's investigation and gives him a vital piece of information, that he wasn't who killed Rooke. De Killer does definitely have a very unique moral compass, but it is as he said in 2-4, he does do his job with honor.
Honestly yeah, the ability to make an assassin named De Killer this intimidating is wild.
'Disturbing imagery and topics are covered in this episode'
*Wendy Oldbag appears*
Damn, I was warned, but...
The real horror of Ace Attorney
*Moe appears*
OH GOD NO
Egdeworth shoul've read the warning
It's the wicked witch of the witness stand!
Me: it can’t be THAT bad-
*Lotta Heart appears*
Me: dear god…
Still really gotta know how maya still stays sane after being accused for murder like 5 times and then getting kidnapped and about to be _murdered_ like man this girl needs a vacation
Well after the third game she travels to the kingdom of Khura'in which is retconned to be where spirit channeling comes from
She makes a LOT of jokes about it.
@@etourdie (potential spirit of justice spoilers) /// doesnt she also get accused of murder again? Im only up to aa5 so far but if thats true then poor maya lmaoo
@@Syllvie if she’s in the game, she’s going to be accused of murder
@@Syllvie Naw. Maya? Accused of murdering someone? In an Ace Attorney game? In a region were there's a lot of spiritual energy? Couldn't be.
And if she were accused of murder, I'm sure she would be awake and alert, able to testify as to what she saw
the "edgeworth, catch" scene still has the best animation possible and you cannot change my mind
Fun fact: In the original GBA version of the game, that animation played EVERY TIME you presented evidence.
absolutely
One of the best moments in the case
@@avelvett It’s at 2:24:16
Its art
21:40 It's canon, Phoenix himself has PTSD from how bad the circus case was
*_AHA!_*
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in one of the ace attorney anime openings it shows him basically having a nightmare about big top so this checks out
@@meevins That opening was the best. In music AND presentation.
you would too
@@Wryyyong OH GOD NOT AGAIN
I like how halfway through he just convinces himself there's a mafia.
i mean in 1-3 there is literally a mafia so i see why he thought de killer had connections with the mafia
As one casually does.
Well.. Wright is going to get involved with the mafia in between this game and Turnabout succession..
I mean, this case was panning out to be an exact replica of the Steel Samurai case so saying there was a mafia wouldn’t be a major assumption.
VonKarma's the Don
I feel like Edgeworth's "cheese with that vintage whine" joke didn't get the appreciation it deserves here. It's legitimately the best line in the game
It's somehow even better than that "you are the entire circus" meme
@@pokkiheart What makes the line even better still, is that it's actually in the game lmao
@@MelodyRose96 it should have been
@@MelodyRose96 its not sadly.
@@nonymouswisp8176 I really wish it was, too. That would have been perfect for the 3rd case.
so, we have “but why was grossberg at the boathouse” from the first game, and now it’s safe to say we have the “but why did engarde send phoenix to feed the cat in his home” from this game, oh boy
but why didn't grossberg feed shoe on his way to the boathouse?
Next will be: "But how did Furio Tigre know that we had the Medical papers???"
@@ShadowSorel It was I who convinced him to not feed Shoe!
@@vonkarma9232 VON KARMA NO!
@@vonkarma9232 NOOOO!!
Wendy Oldbag is kind of an anti-Maya. Maya's favourites get accused of murder (Powers, now Engarde the Nickel Samurai), Wendy's favourites get to be the victims (Jack Hammer, now Juan Corrida)
The curse can only be broken if Maya kills Wendy
Nick going directly to the police after receiving a ransom demand is probably the smartest thing anyone's ever done in these games.
No, it’s them hearing the cat’s signature meow over the phone, immediately putting 2&2 together for once and immediately call a police raid on the suspected area. It actually kinda shocked me how fast they took action compared to most situations
Remember in the first game second case where he walked up to redd white to gloat that he caught him
@@cjadams9658 whooo, character development. We love to see it
@@cjadams9658 Tbf that one stunt worked out really well for Phoenix in the end. Sure, he got punched in the face and accused of the murder, but if Redd White hadn't fallen for the taunt and testified in court he probably would have never been exposed as the murderer.
Gloating to Vasquez and von Karma was definitely a mistake, though.
@@Dinoman972 to be fair, gloating to von karma allowed maya to get the bullet, which indicted von karma
1:57:22, while I do admit that it seems quite funny that Phoenix is talking about the psyche locks so openly, I will say that it is one of my favorite scenes from the trilogy. Phoenix is so exhausted from this whole case that he no longer cares if he sounds insane or not, he only cares about Maya´s safety, and that is something that really surprised the first time I played it. It´s a desperate man dealing with a desperate situation.
Hey Edgeworth has that whole logic chess connect-the-dots puzzle thing going on so he really can't judge at this point (and later in T&T Edgeworth sees the magatamas power for himself soo)
@@i8chocolatecake995Edgeworth can summon the chess dimension on command, he doesn’t care about measly psyche locks.
Phoenix was really great in this game, this is a prime example of that
"For you see Phoenix, it was I who-"
*Sees card*
"...never mind I retract my previous statement, Phoenix"
Best redemption arc ever.
VON KARMA ... yes?
Timestamp?
Edit: Nvm, found it 3:00:30
i've always found it hilarious that this whole case ends up relying on the fact Adrian Andrews has a gender neutral name so De Killer slips up. if she had a more traditionally feminine name he could've kept the ruse going for longer.
Also Fun Fact: in the original Version of this game there's a typo in the super depressing bad end that sucks all the sadness out of it. "The Miracle never happen" thus remains a classic AA meme
That could've always been rewritten to be him slipping up and referring to when he actually talked with Engarde. That's what I thought it was at first.
The "miracle" never happen :(
Yeah it’s honestly hilarious and relatable af because I’m a girl named Tyler
AA rewriting the scene for the Switch release: THE GRAMMAR ERROR NEVER HAPPEN
I mean the entire case relying on a unlikely thing happening is basically every case.
Hey so, about the whole plothole about why Matt sent you to feed Shoe, there are lots of indicators to say that Matt didn't know that Maya was taken captive in his house. 1: Matt is completely unaware that you were sent as his lawyer by De Killer until you drop his name in conversation, when he suddenly changes his mind about you defending him, 2: De Killer was already feeding Shoe so there would be no reason to send you if he knew this, and 3: Matt doesn't seem to know the specific reason as to why you're forced to defend him until Pearl cries "Mystic Maya" while questioning him, and only after that point does he speak of you losing a friend. So stupid that you know this location by the pure chance of him asking YOU of all people, yes, but I think calling it a plothole is a bit of an overstatement.
This man out here with the galaxy brain explanation. Well done.
Thank you. I hope Dan finds this.
Exactly! I always read it like this because not only Matt seems to be unaware of the kidnapping before hearing deKiller's name, it's also not very likely he and deKiller had any communication after the body was found and Matt got arrested, which made deKiller decide to kidnap Maya on his own. And as deKiller isn't actually his butler and is seen to have disguise/alias when in public, it's likely he never took that role in front of Matt and just lied to Phoenix so he would leave.
Matt is also clearly full of himself so him making mistakes in his plans because of his ego would also make sense.
Its not so much a plothole as it is a plot contrivance. They couldn't think of a better way to get Phoenix to go to Engarde's house and they hope you don't think about it too hard. And considering how ridiculous these games are, this is pretty minor
Now I'm wondering what happens to shoe after the events of jfa
43:31 I like how he instantly knows it's Edgeworth talking.
Also "Von Karma Family X Bullet in the right shoulder" is the best ship.
Like father, like daughter
Just barely trumps FvK X Feenie
it's godot x coffee
Oh yes, my favorite ship:
Gregory Edgeworth and Being Shot in a Elevator!
butterfly on your right shoulder? more like bullet inside your right shoulder.
The whip lash between literally the worse case in the entire series with some of the worse characters in the entire series to one of the best cases in the series with one of the best supporting characters in Adrian Andrews is wild every time.
In the next game: Maya visits the Library of Alexandra. Afterwards, Phoenix has to prove that Maya never burnt down the library in question, despite the fact Maya is currently seen in the entire case with a lit lighter and a barrel of propane.
Sadly no it didn’t happen
Oh Maya is actually accused of being a witch and turning two men into gold in crossover game with Professor Layton.
@@shincci Maya needs a fucking break
@@BMWM3GTR2001 don't forget her going on vacation and getting arrested, thus forcing Wright to fly across the globe to represent her.
This girl is freaking cursed.
@@shincci You cannot be serious.
One of favorite details of this case is Adrian's and Matt's animations. Every character is this game has quirks and unique animations. Matt already has his "calling" animation quirk, so you think that's all he has. Adrian doesn't have many quirks besides playing with the card, so you think she'll get more when she starts to break down in court, when she is proven guilty. But then it's revealed Matt is the true bad guy, and has a entire set of evil animations. Very clever, AA team.
Having the card animation end up being a big clue is also inspired imo
Another neat way AA uses animation: Polly!
Yes, Polly only has one sprite, but it's *never shown to you* until you put Polly on the stand. They just fake you out with an evidence-style image of Polly, the same as Missile and Shoe use.
You never have a clue the parrot is able to be cross examined up until it happens.
@@icybeverage9276 wait true, that's actually very clever good catch!
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@@icybeverage9276
Same with De Killer's reciever
RT's unbridled joy at seeing Edgeworth again makes me really happy. It's pretty much a complete 180 from Dan's (and most people's) reaction to him from cases 2 and 3 from the first game before he started to warm up to him.
I think it's a testament to how great Miles' character is and how the writers made him seem grating to sympathetic to beloved in the span of 2 games (or 1, if you're me lol)
(Edit: I dunno how the comments got to where they are, go down there at your own risk)
Fr, comparing RT's actitude in the first case of the first game vs this case tells a lot
Everyone is gay for Edgeworth.
@@shincci but no one is gayer than Phoenix, that's for sure
@@itsme7336 true but he is bisexual to be exact.
His ancestor though? A gay man for sure.
@@shincci he’s the only reason i’m straight tbh
In a future case:
Edgeworth: As you can see, we have decisive evidence showing the defendant with his hands around the victim's neck.
*Dramatic confrontation music plays*
Phoenix: Guitarists hold guitar necks all the time; are you saying that all guitarists are suspicious?
oh this joke will be fun in apollo justice
Edgeworth: we know one person who played a guiatarist on tv and yes he was very suspiscious indeed
Klavier has been avoiding the role of the defendant for too long, it's time for the next game to get him.
@@alicesmith255 gonna be honest him for AA7 would be nice
Phoenix is turning into von Karma at his lowest point :0
6:21
Pearl: "Um, Mr. Nick, is the dead person the nickel samurai?"
Phoenix: "Huh, why do you ask?"
Pearl: "Mystic Maya was rooting for him, so..."
Y'know, that's actually a good point.
EVERYONE that Maya has been in contact with has either been beaten, assaulted, murdered, accused of murder, accessory to a murder, or the murderer themselves.
It's actually kinda concerning tbh
Including Phoenix Wright himself, now that you mentioned it
(in the first game, the case where Maya is * drum roll * introduced).
@@nopnop4790 It isn’t the first time and it won’t be the last time
@@nopnop4790 p
@@nopnop4790 and the very start of the second game, getting smacked by that fire extinguisher
@@chandra_creator oh my god.. I realize now that Maya is so cursed that we're all gonna die or go to jail just for having seen her
The main story of this game isn't just 'what happened to edgeworth', that's only part of it. Unlike the first game, the main story isn't some big long running plothtead, it is instead more of a character thing. The man story of the second game is one question: "what is Phoenix Wright's identity? what does being a defence attorney mean?"
That's why it starts with Pheonix with amnesia, forgetting his identity and slowly regaining who he is, and its why Wellington says that big speech towards the end questioning Phoenix's identity, it's putting the idea to the forefront.
In the second case we see phoenix recconnect with old friends, old annoyances and coming into conflict with Maya's past via her evil aunt. Here we see how he as, a lawayer, approaches his friends and the seeming vengaence of someone affected by his actions.
In the third case we see how phoenix deals with a client who's not only a strnager and weirdo but is also not entirely innocent, and further shakes up the formula with a killer who is very sympathetic. Its also where its revealed what happened to Edgeworth (seemingly) and how it affects phoenix, making him bitter and lashing out by painting prosecutors in a bad light, making himself feel more justified and primed for the final case where everything is turned on its head.
And so, we come to the final case. Here, phoenix is challenged by a client who IS guilty of the crime he's charged with. What will phoenix do? will he fight for a not guilty verdict no matter the cost and thus be no different from the prosecutors he hated and accused them of? Is he only driven by the wellbeing of his friends and not of anyone else? Will he choose a guilty verdict and lose? if he fails, how will it affect him?
WHo is phoenix wright, ace attorney? that's the core plot of Justice For All.
Wait this is actually an excellent comment, I have gained a new appreciation for the first case of this game
This is a good comment
And that's another reason why JFA is my favorite in the trilogy. Besides also having the best final case. And Fran.
I hated that stupid circus case but DANG if they didn’t have an interesting villain to reflect on!
The entire game was kinda questioning Phoenixs morality. He accused a young girls mother of murder, a disabled man who was a victim of a lot of unfortunate accidents that caused him to go over the edge and who’s story is basically a Greek tragedy, and he was close to convicting an innocent person to prison while KNOWING who it really was!
The entire game I was questioning myself and Phoenixs place in the story, and DANG was it emotional. Genuinely such an interesting game.
Also its pretty cool that the player chooses the final question of who phoenix is, by pleading guilty or not guilty knowing that justice will be served either way. Is winning the case and keeping that stellar record more important, or supporting the truth?
The amount of thinking and brain power RT was doing to try and fit all the pieces together to tie it all back to the Mafia as part of some larger conspiracy is the equivalent of that infamous Charlie Day Billboard meme and I love it!
Idk what this means but take my comment as the first comment to your comment today
Pizzagate moment
It all comes back to Pepe Silvia
@@sans5466 there's a show starring Charlie Day called It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. In that show there's an episode where he and his friend get a job in an office. He's working in the mail room and loses his mind and starts building this conspiracy theory about a guy called Pepe Sylvia and EVERYTHING is connected to him, like literally everything all comes back to this one man whom he then hallucinates and screams about.
It's a very funny scene from a funny show and the picture where he's looking at a wall he's covered with pictures and string has become a meme of sorts.
Just look up the phrase Pepe Sylvia here on UA-cam surely you'll find the scene and get a good laugh.
@@Ttegegg
Oh god please no
The cut at 34:36 is so great. Edgeworth talking about how Andrew's copying her mentor to keep herself sane, and then immediately cutting to F. Von Karma, who is doing the exact same thing but with M. Von Karma, is such a wonderful touch. I don't know if that was intentional by Cloe or Dan, but that was very well done.
Yeah that is really cool!
Arguably it applies to Edgeworth as much as the other two, so the cut wasn't even necessary for it to be ironic.
also gives new life to fransika's line about andrews being weak, and the eventual friendship that is implied in the credits as andrews gets a new pillar and fransika starts to move on.
@@williamd2989It definitely has faded from edgeworth over the years, though in his early days it was really obvious he was taught by von karma
@@williamd2989Edgeworth's mentor was Lana Skye.
Phoenix: "Is it really over? Have we found the truth at last?"
Me: Notices another hour and forty minutes on the video
*Press X to Doubt*
X
X
X
Hmmm, 3 x's... that reminds me of something
X
Sounds of ptsd:
-clown laughs
-Manfred von karma’s voice
-Whip cracking
-Maya saying anything bad
Actions affected by some of these
-blinking because apparently that’s how long it takes for Maya to be accused of war crimes.
"Maya Fey is accused of nuking the country of turkey."
"I LITERALLY BLINKED! HOW DID YOU GET ACCUSED OF THAT WHILE I BLINKED?!"
"maya saying anything bad"? what does this mean?
@@aboredguywithaninternetcon4663 Well, maybe they just mean turkey, like food!
Nope, nope, it's the country. They're all dead.
@@somerandomgamer8504 "Oh, I might be a war criminal."
This Poor Man can't catch a wink of sleep
"You should really come with a supply of cheese to match your vintage whine" is the best Edgeworth line and nobody is convincing me otherwise
Bahshdh wait what's the timestamp for this 😭😭
@@cosmixstar 58:39
What about the "Sit back, relax,
and enjoy the sound of the noose tightening around your own neck " ?
@@-randomuser-4897That might be better, but maybe not
I like “I know bluffing things until you win is usually your strategy, Wright, but your reputation called, and they told me to tell you that you should rethink things.” Phoenix: “Y-Yes Daddy.”
One of the best cases in the entire franchise, makes going trough 2-3 worth it
I like case 2. It gave us Pearl.
The second case is really good, but turnabout big top, that is another story entirely…
@@oathkeeper65 they meant 2-3 as in "game 2 (jfa), case 3", which is turnabout big top
@@questingfish7498 Yeah it’s the best
2-3 was already worth it its the best
"It's true Mister Lawyer. I hired an assassin to kill Juan Corrida!"
"Security Guard, did you hear that?"
"Oh yeah. Every word."
*Roll credits*
“Yes for you see mr. lawyer dude, it was I who hired the assassin all along!”
The security guard is a cardboard cutout
@@and-a-bell this is my new headcanon holy shit thats hilarious
@@garfieldisgod3656 it's the only logical explanation considering all the stuff he should have heard but did not say anything
Edit: it also makes sense why the guard goes negative with the background when the megatama is used
@@susactivities_ for you see.... mr lawyer dude... it was ME.... who fed shoe
I think the victim is called Juan Corrida because his room and Matt's are both located in only "one corridor."
well yeah but also it's a bullfighting term to mirror matt's surname
actually its basicaly a reference to how he and matt are rivals, their surnames are both references to fighting
By the way, they changed his name in spanish, because "Corrida" can also be intrerpreted as something else.
@@josefloressalas237 Cum
@@josefloressalas237 and Juan is a spanish name so the "Corrida" was most definitely intentional lmao
I love the amount of times RT just goes “I need to hope for Anime Court to happen or we’re screwed”
And it works nearly every single time
maya has escaped from jail:
there is now a small medium at large.
XD NICE~
Holy shit, that's hilarious
You deserve more attention
please explain lol
@@Howduhbee it's a play on words. to be "at large" means that you are a criminal who is running around free. if you escape from jail you are "at large" until you are caught again.
"Now the moment you've all been waiting for!"
Me who's been waiting for Von Karma reprisal:
"Yes Phoenix, as you can see it was I that withheld the final case from you and placed it in the Chemical Factory and there's nothing you can do about it!"
"Von Karma No!"
Yes
He said von karma no right as i read it
Wait did he ever play it?
1:38:16 ok i totally forgot that gumshoe made a bug sweeper in elementary school... his passion for detective work is as enduring and deeply ingrained in him as miles and phoenix's passion for lawyering 🥺 i love him
"I swear on my family's honor!"
And as we learned last time, she has a massive family!
Ah yes, the only perfectly-executed part of Turnabout Big Top.
I’m crying at how much I love Detective Gumshoe. He tries his best. It doesn’t matter if he sometimes gives the opposite side info because as long as the real criminal is caught Gumshoe did a good job. I love him, he is so sweet and genuine.
Not only that, he's treated so badly most of the time but he still does his detective with so much love and vigor.
1:33:07
Fun Fact: John Doe is the name that is given to male unrecognizable or Unconfirmed dead bodies. His being an assassin fits.
If only it were John Smith.
Now this makes me curious, is there a female equivalent of that name?
Edit : apparently its Jane Doe, Cool
not just dead bodies, sometimes there’s also people arrested who have 0 (proper) records and don’t cooperate, so they will be labeled john doe as well
Wright: "You literally have zero chance of giving a testimony without framing yourself, just admit your guilt."
Andrews: "Nah."
Adrian: but the hot lady said the opposite and the hot lady woudn't lie!
Phoenix: what.
Adrian: I don't wanna smooch her that's silly i mean what
Well I mean she was innocent
@@sarafontanini7051
Might be my dumbass, but wasn't it said that she listened to karma because she a prosecutor?
@@vintheguy True, but her being rather clingy to Celeste, and [REDACTED FOR SLIGHT T&T SPOILER], _does_ suggest her as either gay or bi.
@@sponge1234ify
Yeah but that doesn't necessarily mean she was attracted to karma, especially when karma is giving advice that could potentially save her life
2:41:30
Would've been the perfect moment to yell "Von Karma, _yes!_ "
I knooow right
"Phoenix Wright, I have here the evidence of this foolish trial!"
"von Karma, YES!"
I swear, the more this series goes on, the more fitting the Judge’s voice is
he's just a silly funny goofy guy
it was glossed over a bit, but frankenzia was indeed shot in the same shoulder as Manfred.
"frankenzia"
@@cosmic7336 I love it 😂
@@cosmic7336 is that the female Frankenstein?
wait, she was shot?
@@williammiller6330 That's why miles was prosecuting instead
De Killer: "This is the first time my client has been accused of murder"
The rest of the courtroom: **trying their hardest to figure out who his client is, in a trial where one man has been accused of murder**
dont forget andrews, the one de killer is framing. at the point in the case where he takes the stand, Phoenix has established the possibility that she did it. Phoenix is the accuser, making 2 people accused, only one of which could be de killer's client.
Oh yeah he did out himself there huh?
i love how this game goes from the worst case in the series to one of the best cases in the franchise.
from the last case to the court allowing people to talk to ghosts and use it as evidence i still say the most unrealistic part about of this series is the fact that witnesses dont get in trouble for lying in court
They do, but only when plot relevant
So like once in the whole series
@@terrorloc100 spoilers for Apollo Justice / AA4:
I also love that so many people willingly forge evidence, but in the flashback even just unwittingly presenting forged evidence was enough to get Phoenix completely disbarred without any appeal
@@utterclown1580 well i mean pretty much the only other people that forge evidence are culprits who get charged for worse crimes or manfred von karma who never got caught
@@garfieldisgod3656 Wasn't Manfred's one penalty given for using fake evidence?
@@Dinoman972 it isnt explained in that game but he was given a penalty for falsifying a confession from the defendant
I loved how Von Karma’s daughter showed just a little bit of emotion at the end. Loved your work with the voice acting too RT it makes my day
Such a small moment that really separates her from her father
I really really liked her whole speech and sprite-design there
It just made it so much clearer that below all of that tough and perfect facade, she's just a kid trying to live up to the expectations people place on her and nearly breaking in doing so
@@tragediansdemise5033 yeah. Hopefully next time we see her she'll realize that she's more than what people expect her to be
@@tragediansdemise5033 She was the smart kid in 2nd grade.
@@tragediansdemise5033 Yeah, we need to remember that she was still 18 years at that moment. Imagine being so young and already having to live up to high expectations, amd then you fail at reaching them. One would understand why she showed emotion at the end, and I love her now because of that moment lol
Yknow now that I rewatched from the beginning, the Feed Shoe loophole actually makes more sense. In the beginning, Matt didn't even seemed to know that Shelly had a deal with Wright, and Matt only accepted Wright as his lawyer when Wright said "de Killer". It does seem like Matt and De Killer seemed to have limited communication, maybe they have very inconvinent methods of communications to keep De Killer untrackable, and therefore they both aren't on the same page 100% of the time. It could be that Matt only knew about the deal later on without knowing the detail of where Maya was held hostage.
Hey no way it’s the funny cat man
1:37:59: the best part of Ace Attorney is when detective Gumshoe said "its investigating time" and investigated all over the crime scene
Lmfao that's perfect
I imagine RT and De Killer would get along well. They would probably go and play Hitman together.
I'd say RT would even record it, and post it on UA-cam. The title would be "RT and DK play Hitman to find out who's the best assassin".
I'd watch that video.
Everybody's a gangsta untill De Killer says "You see, sir, they used to call me "The Assassination King"... Back in university."
"DK! De Kill-er!"
@@youtubeuniversity3638 kill 'er? I hardly know her! *laugh track plays*
de killer is the best character
I legitimately cannot tell if Daniel was serious or not about the mafia gambling ring betting on the results of children's show mascot popularity contests. His theories sound too absurd to be genuine, but he delivers them with such conviction that I just can't be sure.
But consider: It would be so funny if it was actually true, and ace attorney is just the kind of franchise to make it true.
I mean it happened with arcades
The Yakuza are in almost everything in Japan I'd be more surprised if they weren't involved in some way
@@catchara1496 really were ė4÷44 we ea èè tee e
Probably a bit of both. He had the same attitude during the Mask☆DeMasque Arc. He treats it as a joke but is also somewhat serious
I spent a good 50% of this case thinking that Matt and Juan were having an affair
Same lol
Scum Yaoi?!?!
Scum Yaoi?!?!
That would be INCREDIBLE lmao
"Wicked witch of the witness stand" ~Miles Edgeworth, 2002
actually JFA takes place in 2017-2018
@@lavenzavantas Was mainly going for the release date of the game, but it's good to know that! Thank you!
@@eternalmood1846 the release date was closer to 2002-2003 iirc (of the og GBA version)
@@HardGuess Thank you for reminding me.
I love how in the discord livestream chat while this was live, people completed a full bingo on the things that would happen on this case with RT's stream
Wait actually?
@@YasEmisDaBus Yeah, i recall a few like
Franziska whip Gumshoe
Gumshoe's Salary
Oh Moe God
@@YasEmisDaBusdefinitely, and I meant predictions like
"Chat freaking out about shoe"
"RT would select not guilty at the very end"
"English major joke"
Etc, etc.
And not like, spoiler territory predictions
I wonder if he'll ever notice how De Killer's transciever is made to look like his face
damn I was today years old
.....
oh
I mean...
In Investigations 2 he also appears (1st case) and his ice cream also looks like him
Hold on wait, I need to check that out
I saw a comment on the vod video about feeding the cat. Their explanation was that it was a taunt. Matt Engarde, so sure of himself to a fault, sent Phoenix to feed his cat to mock him, as Maya was only two doors away. Matt also wanted to reassure his butler that he could still reveal him. I don’t know why everyone was so pent up on this, the real question is why was Grossburg at the boathouse
Well there's also the likelihood that Matt didn't even know that de killer took a hostage to get hire a defense attorney for him as Matt had no clue as to why Phoenix wanted to defend him until he accidentally dropped de killer's name
While I agree Matt is full of himself I think it's more likely Matt didn't know Maya was kept hostage in his home as it's very unlikely deKiller could've contacted Matt after the body was found and he was arrested.
Matt couldn't "*reassure* his butler that he could still reveal him", since the butler had no idea Matt had that intention until the videotape evidence was brought up.
Though, I agree that feeding the cat would definitely work as a way of Matt just playing with Wright. I don't think it was intentional by any means; I think Shoe was quite literally shoehorned in to give a tie-in for "revealing" de Killer's location, but written intention versus read meaning aren't one and the same.
I was shocked that Dan didn't know how to pronounce Juan, quite possibly Juan of the most joked on names lmao
That or Yu
It was I who made Dan forget my name MWAHAHAHAHA
@@jfacum24 Juan, no!
"Is it pronounced Hugh-an??"
"Who-an?
"Go on"
I was dying at that section 😭
He's an English major after all. Not Spanish.
I love how (comparatively) serious Dan and his editors got whenever the image of Celeste's suicide appeared on screen, even censoring it and putting a warning on this here supercut. Even if I'm not heavily affected by those topics I understand how seriously it can affect other people and I'm glad Dan's as comprehensive and caring as he is.
My favouite bit of this entire case has to be De Killer's threat "Dead men tell no tales as the saying goes"
ABOUT THAT.....
Mia glitched the game
sea of thieves story mode flashbacks
Yeah uh the first time they tried it in a trial it uh resulted in Gregory Edgeworth's death and the fey clan disgrace and dahlia becoming a demon woman and killing two people
Me yesterday: Huh, it's been a while since RT did a JFA case. Wonder when he'll do the next one.
RT and co.: *3 hour JFA video*
that's why you follow him on twitch so you know
I reccomend following his stream archive channel too. This was uploaded there a few days earlier.
I just thought of it the morning of the day it came out
Fun fact! During the stream, RTs discord server managed to fill an ENTIRE bingo card
So what was on the card
@@LinkJTO spoilers if you haven't finished the vid! Going in columns from top to bottom:
B- Jokingly predicted twist, Getting stuck on some bullshit, Chat freaks out over Shoe, alosing it at transceiver testimony, RT breaks over game/chat
I- "Help me out chat", Badge is presented, "Von Karma, no!", Gumshoe appreciation, Miracle never happen
N- Mafia, Hit on the judge (funni dialouge), Chat is Gay (free space), "The judge should be fired", * thematic musings*
G- Selecting "Not Guilty" at the end, Failed post-case present (whip), 3+ "Oh shit"s, "English Major", Non-judge voice morphs into goofy again
O- RT BIG BRAIN, Chat derails the stream, In character donations, Guessing Suicide Note's Location, Content Warning (Take Care of yourselves, all
@@itsstrange1213 so the discord server also has prediction powers
@@RabbiHerschel what's wrong with the gays
@@RabbiHerschel what's wrong with homosexuality?
After Turnabout Big Top...
This case is a real treat.
Edgeworth is forever and always my favorite prosecutor because he and Phoenix still respect each other, they’re don’t actually hate each other but it’s the sexual tension that comes from the arguing that makes this relationship so special
like an old married couple
Hope everyone is doing good and staying safe
Personally I still find it more satisfying to say engarde's guilty at the end. Yes it does mean engarde doesn't declare himself guilty out of fear, BUT it does lead to pheonix decalring "I cannot defend a clearly gulty man" and Engarde being in disbelief that after everything he's done to win, his reputation is ruined and his freedom is lost forever.
We are all different people, and it is a valid opinion.
thats the glory of the end, both options mean Engarde is destroyed
Thats literally his job to defend him.
I like the option for not guilty more
Nit just because yes it mean that if he possibly doesn't end up getting locked up, de killer will murder tf out of him, but also because I think it fits in another way narritively (both options fit very well narritively). He's so arrogantly seen himself as above or better than others and takes too much advantage of the influence he has and his pride makes him want to constantly lord that over those around him (take a look at his interactions with Phoenix and Pearl for example. He gloats about how much bad stuff he's done and even says "because i can". He puts Wright in a position that makes known to him that he is extremely stuck while Matt can just do whatever he pleases at this point and win). But in the end, those very same characteristics that even brought some to their deaths, turns out to be the largest bite in the ass he could've ever done, as his tendency to lord his power over others pushed him to record de killer so he could lord over the assassin. In doing that, he makes himself a target by that same assassin. Pleading "not guilty" gives him a HUGE "...oh fuck" moment in knowing for a fact that he isn't above others, especially in the moment. He becomes the most weak person in the room and desperately pleads guilty in an attempt to save his own life. It's extremely satisfying to see if you consider all of that lol. And very well put together when you think of how it causes his previous traits and actions to contrast COMPLETELY in every single way how he behaves and what the future may have in store for him lol.
Yeah, I really like pleading not guilty, just so Engarde gets absolutely monkey’s pawed. “Here’s the verdict you wanted. Hope it doesn’t bite you in the ass”
WHOOOP
Edit: Also words cannot describe how pleased I was that RT caught on to Watergate Hotel without any second thought
WHOOOP
I think he had researched a little after the Gatewater hotel case in the first game, because he wondered why a lot of crime hotels in media carried similar names (that or chat told him) and I'm very surprised he remembered it :D
That I'm misremembering the whole thing but-
Gatewater... Watergate...
HIDDEN CAMERA? BLACKMAIL?
I just played through the entire trilogy and never made the connection until this video 😭
oh my god i just realized both cases so far in the gatewater hotel have involved information bugs
How fitting that the game where the final case is about trying to fight with whether or not you should convict Engarde should be called Justice For All
It fits with every case. Wellington was a scumbag who had it coming, Miney was a grief-stricken sister trying to get revenge on the doctor who killed her sister, Acro was a man only hanging on out of hope his brother would wake up, and Engarde blackmailed you into nearly convicting an innocent woman to save Maya's life.
The fact that franzizca was shot in the right shoulder is funnier than it should be
It was kind of a way of saying "You'll end up like him if you continue this path, you muppet!" And in some ways she took the hint. While others she didn't catch a damn thing
That was the perfect ending:
“Yes you see Phoenix, it was I…. actually, I retract my previous statement, Phoenix.”
Von Karma... Thank you.
- "For all we know Maya could be dead!"
- "And then we will hear the spirits of the dead testify, cause they have something to say!"
Just you wait RT! JUST YOU WAIT!!!
RT: Maya been through too much
Me who seen the final case in the trilogy: 😰
@@andrewd.8560 Me, who has played Spirit of Justice: X_X
I love how even in canon the last case is hated
When the case was so bad that even Phoenix had PTSD over it.
@Arcana IX Thx man
Yeah, I kind of like that it gets brought up again. Like in a later case in AAI, Franziska is alarmed when Edgeworth mentioned the Nickel Samurai, meaning she must be traumatized since she was shot in her shoulder before that trial. A nice tidbit, I thought.
@@ScarletCynthia that trial sucked. i fucking hate that clown lol,…
@@ScarletCynthia they meant last as in previous, i.e clown
58:32
Phoenix: "As the old saying goes, You should burn old bags with fire"
Edgeworth: _"I wholeheartedly agree..."_
Ah yes, Edgeworth. BURNING OLD BAGS WITH A FLAMETHROWER
“Edgeworth your family might have sold your things”
Er, everyone minus Franzi is dead. She was convinced he was alive. I think Miles’ stuff is okay.
I wouldn't put it past Franziska to sell all of Edgeworth's stuff anyway, out of spite.
@@aldar8240 Nah, she’s a softy really
@@cairoraiser9338I dunno, I find it hard to buy that anyone who will commit assault several times per conversation if able is a "softy"
There are probably other members of the von Karma family still around, Miles is kind of part of them. We know Manfred has a granddaughter.
Also, in terms of other relatives, do you think Uncle Ray might count?
@@TorrentialStardust potentially? I don’t know if he would be too far our family to be trusted with the handling of Miles’ belongings though. Usually it’s children/parents and siblings? So the mysterious other Von Karma child that gave Manfred a grandchild would potentially have a right to handle Miles’ stuff, but due to their estrangement (we never really see them At All) I would guess they probably wouldn’t volunteer to sort his affairs?
Gotta say, got a little teary when Maya came back at the very end. This isn’t my first time watching this case, but i was still super invested. Every minute of the case was packed with tension, and it was brilliantly constructed
i cannot WAIT for RT to meet Godot. wonder what he'll think of him.
Godot is a literal gem of a man
His theme is litterally the best thing I've heard in years
yes omg!! that and dahlia/iris. i’m sure rt will hate them hahah
I can't wait for him to play as Mia and realize the whole story behind him
I wonder if he will know people simp extra hard for Godot before even getting to him?
Also... correct pronunciation of Godot... or EXTRA CORRECT pronunciation of Godot?
“PEARL WHERE ARE YOUR PARENTS- **Phoenix has a reverse aneurysm** oh right I put them in jail”
I'm pretty sure in this game and possibly actual Japan, the prosecutor's office is in charge of the police. So the prosecutor gets all the information and also have authority over what the police do and how they do it.
It's why the conviction rate is so high.
The main reason for the high conviction rate is that prosecutors will almost never pick up a case if they aren't 100% sure they can get a conviction
I mean there are plenty of other reasons about that as well such as suspects being allowed to be held in custody for 28 days without a lawyer
Realizing that the card at the very end, was in fact the drawing Maya drew while she was kidnapped to cheer herself up, after seeing this fight for Maya’s life and the emotional moments that ensued, was the tipping point that had me emotional. Even with RT’s comedic commentary and the ridiculousness of the plot itself, something about that card really, really drives the heartfelt story home in a way that reminds me why I love this game so much.
Petty dumb note: Shelly De Killer is not a serial killer, he is a contract killer. Now im not defending his actions by any means, but there is a difference. De Killer takes no personal pride in killing, he takes pride in completing contracts as he states as much. However in another ace attorney game. (Miles Edgeworth investigations 2) He states he dislikes unnecessary killing so its clear that he is indifferent to suffering of others thus making him at the very least a sociopath. That said, he doesn't seem to the exhibit the psychological impulse's or traits exhibited by serial killers. You may bring up the calling card, however that was not started by him as he points out "De Killer" is just a title that multiple people have assumed over the years. So potentially his predecessor may have counted as both a contract/serial killer but this one does not.
Thank you for reading my stupid nitpicky complaint about a fictional killers title. Have a great day regardless.
Technically anybody doing multiple separate killings is a serial killer.
@@orangesilver8 Not quite. Look up the definitions. For instance Joe Darke from the first game kills multiple people in a short period of time. He wasn't a serial killer despite the games mislabeling of him. Darke would be officially termed as a spree killer. Which is someone who kills at two or more locations with almost no time break between the murders.
I hope this didn't come off as hostile or rude that was not the intent.
@@robber233 Well that's what I meant. Joe Darke's killings weren't separate.
This sounds like something a serial killer would say
@@robertweill4790 *casually locks basement*
Now why would say something like that?
(Lol)
Remember Kids:
Having facial scarring does not make you in any way worse or lesser people, nor are people with facial deformities in any way "more evil"
I’m sorry but the game series where you may defend a killer whale says otherwise, therefore you are wrong.
@@cthulhubecausewhynot1182 oh damnit, I have been proven wrong once again!
@@cthulhubecausewhynot1182 LMFAO NOT THE WHALE
No of course not, it's the menacingly slicking your hair back and pulling out a comically large glass of, uh, I'm guessing whiskey? That's the thing that makes you look more evil
@@imaginaryboy2000 It's obviously brandy, the most sinister of beverages.
man this case is so unbelievably good. from how it completely turns the usual 'defending someone innocent' into something so different, to how it manages to be incredibly tense while literally naming the killer 'de killer'... and seeing edgeworth and phoenix completely in sync, completely on the same side, is so deeply satisfying after you spent all of last game finding out how much they mean to each other. and of course franziska is one of the best AA characters period. just... so much good in here.
A 3 hour long RT video is the best Christmas present we could've received.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I've been missing the Von Karma voice.
Tsk tsk, pathetic. I watched the 7 hours vod!
Yes for you see it was I who made you miss my voice!
@@susactivities_ VON KARMA NO!
I believe Matt Engarde told the attorneys to feed Shoe because he didn't trust De Killer to do it - he got blackmail of him, after all. Matt's distrust of De Killer makes him his own worst enemy, at every turn.
I love RT’s dedication to pronouncing Juan right but then completely butchering Corrida every time
He’s a little confused but he’s got the right stuff
Huan corridor
We’re all rooting for you, Daniel! Kick that walkie talkie’s ass!
This entire case made enduring Turnabout Big Top worth it. This case did the whole defending someone that wasnt a good person thing way better than turnabout big top did.
Big Top did it better it does everything better
@@jaxsterminator8634 wrong
@@spritepepsiplushes8353 *right
@@jaxsterminator8634 I do believe you may have dyslexia, go ask your doctor about it.
Wait you won't be able to read this nevermind
@@jaxsterminator8634 oh no hes back
edgeworth really has the balls to bring a fucking assassin into court as a witness to testify
Well, he once walked in on a murder and when the killer put a gun to his back, he seemed angry that someone was killed in his office
@@mint7442 what game was that in?
@@rockwastaken investigations one I think
@@rockwastaken miles edgeworth investigations 1-1
45:00 Lawyers in the United States have a duty of candor. They cannot lie nor can they elicit testimony they know to be false. Doing so would be grounds for disbarment.
That being said, even setting aside the dystopian court system in these games, Wright isn't doing anything wrong by defending Engarde or withholding information that hasn't been requested of him. Wright, at this point, does not know Engarde committed a crime, and does not elicit any false testimony. Everyone has the right to a zealous advocate.
This case was absolutely insane; Maya being held captive by the known killer who was tesifying in court while on the run from Gumshoe as Phoenix has to sabotage the effort to prove his client innocent in a role reversal with Edgeworth. What a ride!
It's a brilliant reversal
fun fact: the victim's surname, corrida, literally means "c*m" in Castilian Spanish
anyways good job at these Dan! you've done very well, we really appreciate the effort you put into these videos
Yeah
Juan Cum
John Jizz
That's why they changed his name to "Juan Rivera" in the Spanish translation.
@@teawizard374 SOBBING
2:44:49 it's just not the same as "A miracle never happen" 😩
for me this is the best written case in all the first trilogy. From the beginning the stakes are so high, and the plot twist almost at the end is genius, never seen before, it makes you and phoenix question so much about what is right. 10/10 if you ask me
i think they do the "defendant is guilty" thing better in another case from another game
@@hylianmono
if you’re talking about paul atishon from spirit of justice, he was a worse version of this
@@catalyst539 have you played tgaac?
24:20
And that is why kids, you never choose Quantity over Quality for your secret guarding psychelockes
Did you get that from the psych-lock picking lawyer? :D
@@bc-cu4on Phoenix should put that on his resume🤣
Considering Shelly De Killer makes a cameo in a future game
I think we can all assume Engarde's ultimate fate.
Ohh something I never thought about
Spoilers for that game below btw:
Since de killer has another target in that game, and we have no proof of him ever taking multiple hits at once, maybe that means Matt got murdered lmaooo
At least I hope so
@@worthyedge9307 if that's the case, nothing of value was lost :)
@@cunkjunk the good ending :)
do you guys even know how prison works. matt wouldve been moved to a more secure cell or some shit
@@mellowhateseverybodyandals1289
Considering some notable highly skilled assassins could leave the prison at a moment's notice... I'm not so sure.
What I'd like to know is why the Judge isn't in on the whole kidnapping thing, I mean the trial would have gone a LOT longer and smoother if the Judge knows Matt Engard is holding someone hostage to declare himself guilty.
Someone probably told him, but he just forgot.
I mean, what do you expect from a judge who took away a chance from the attorney just because he accidentally stole his spotlight?
As much as I actually find this judge funny and like him, I don't think he is best person to keep quiet about such touchy topic.
i feel like the second word got out to anyone who could actually do something about it, de killer wouldve killed maya. thats kinda the point of blackmail here i think
@@glassphoenix9095 Thank you
I like how sometimes RT can perfectly guess how the entire trial is going to go down, and other times he can convince himself of plot points that don’t exist.
if i had a nickel for every samurai named after metal that got charged for murder in a case involving wendy oldbag and identity theft, i'd have two nickels. which isn't a lot but it's weird that its happened twice
2:08:55 a rare moment of Phoenix remembering that burden of proof lies with the prosecution.
for as memey as a man named "De Killer" being an assassin and have a strange set of morals is, it's also important to remark that he got away with kidnapping, his little present for Phoenix and injuring three officers when going back for his stuff. he could've gotten away with shooting a prosecutor in an elevator without a bullet in his shoulder as well.
Makes sense that the most effective killer in the series is an assassin