Assassin's Creed Rogue is Overrated
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- assassins creed rogue is an interesting game, and we will do an assassins creed rogue review in 2023 in roughly 60 seconds to discuss why. This assassins creed is definitely overlooked but I also think rogue is overrated.
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In Ac Rogue they make the templars more friendly and the Assassins more dickheads... That got me
The assassin were never good nor bad,nor the temps either
It just depends on current leadership like the borgias being evil corrupt officials who sought the apple,then the assassins clearly being antagonist in rogue (why I'm curious I haven't played pls tell me lol)
@@journeymanofhope9866it's just a shallow, bad way to introduce moral complexity. "Let's not actually flesh out Templar or Assasin philosophy and actually create a morally grey situation. Let's just flip the script and make the Assassins evil in this one"
Unity has the worst brotherhood in the franchise, in my opinion. They strayed away from their duty to have a go at politics, and it backfired. France would've been done for if Arno didn't disregard their orders
@@journeymanofhope9866Hitler was a major temp member so they are kinda bad
They had 8 months to create this game and a small team was working on it. It's still amazing what they did
Fax imagine how good this game would be if it took the same development time as Unity which was three years I believe
@@Deebo2288 more like 4
@@Deebo2288and dont forget the story of rogue is excellent probably in my top 3 in term of ac games in term of story , a dont know who writed ac unity but the story of unity is completly boring it pale in comparison to rogue but it excel in the gameplay departement
I love Rogue. The story was interesting and it definitely could of had more to it or a DLC to expand on it.
THANK YOU
Shay wasn't even a proper Templar to be fair, he only joined them to stop Achilles. He was always an assassin at heart and always behaved like one despite not being a part of the brotherhood anymore.
no
Well he was trained by the assassins so obviously he’s gonna use his assassin skills he never got trained by templars that’s why he was the assassin hunter for the templars
@@-MSR- My point still stands, he was never a proper Templar because he only joined them to stop Achilles. That’s why he wasn’t in Assassin’s Creed 3 because he wasn’t dedicated to the Templars anymore unlike Haytham, Lee, Johnson etc
@@H.K.5 ah I see, shay seeked revenge in a way
@@maciek1655at the end of the game it’s literally said that he follows his own creed.
Working with criminals? We gonna forget the thieves that Ezio worked with? :))))))))
ezio was not a traditional assassin though
I see where you are going, but he saw their potential and changed their lives around for the greater good. But most Assassins worked with theives before so eh.
the thieves never hurt anyone other than rival thief gangs. what he could have said was 'violent criminals'.
Facts bro. Ezio worked with theives, prostitutes and mercenaries. Jacob started a gang in London. Basim aided the vikings, Mary Reed was a pirate so was Edward. The whole assassins don't work with criminals is bullshit.
@@d3monicwolfthey stole from the rich and gave to the poor.
Overated? I thought this game was disliked
It was he doesn't know what he's talking about
@@Dead_Eye-23he does know what he's talking about, he's made plenty of videos on AC. He knows it's not overrated bc I swear I saw a video of his before talking about how UNDERRATED it is. I think he just wants to be put in the algorithm better. Which is even more ick than "not knowing what he's talking about" to me
@@Dead_Eye-23no, it was and then all you incels flooded to the game and praising it like crazy, you can’t go to a AC video without seeing someone call it underrated
@@austinbatton4849 If a game is now getting the love it deserves, then it isn't overrated. It would be properly rated, you incel.
@@austinbatton4849 it could be the case for Unity & Origins, but not with Rogue. To this day, it's really overshadowed by Unity for being launched at the same day & Black Flag due to the similarities these both games have
Couldn't agree more. I wish they would have made a Templer game with Haytham to end the Kenway trilogy on a positive note instead of releasing rogue which doesn't do the whole templar assassin rivalry justice.
Originally rogue was meant for Haytham to be the protagonist also I wanna see how he learned to climb trees as mission because it’s mention in the book forsaken
@@rydn_x Exactly why they should have made a game about Haythem. Especially because of forsaken
But why would they when the book was written the same time the game came out
@@altrag3748 Well why make a book when you could have easily made a game
@@jklxyyBut that's what I was trynna say, the book was already done. They couldn't make that decision, it had already been decided. And at this point you're just arguing over nothing, why not just make a game about Ezio's father? And then his father, and Mario! And make one about Altair's father too! Books are definitely easier, and better off doing them for things that aren't so unique. Haytham was cool, but his life was half in AC3, and half in Black Flag. The book gave a lot of details, but imagine if Shay was only talked present in a book. A completely new character, and he doesn't even deserve his own game?
My personal head cannon is that somewhere in the development of Unity someone said "what if we made Arno's dad's killer an Assassin turned Templar?" And someone else said "YES. Let's make another game out of it." But then very little further planning happened.
It was kind of a bold move, almost like UB hedging it's bets on the launch 8th console generation not being as universal as the 7th.
@@kazmark_gl8652 maybe, or perhaps they thought it would entice people who would've stuck with a PS3/360 a while longer to go ahead and upgrade, and buy Unity along with it. Hard to say without actually being a part of the company, but sales tactics aren't exactly rocket science
Assassins Creed Rogue is the game I still play after all these years and I keep revisiting it.
Same
Same, it's the only one ac game I still play
I always wanted to see Shay being more of an anti-hero instead of just turning his back on the Assassin's and becoming a Templar, kind of like working on both sides without choosing to join either
That would never work
@@Jogim0517I'd agree, but I have a similar opinion the creator has. The story had a lot of potential, but the way it played out onto Shay's point of view made him the good guy all the time, that's why i said I'd rather have him work around as an anti-hero rather influencing from only the Assassin's, even though he's worked with the templars for much longer. Yes it may never work, but it would've been a better plot for an Assassin's Creed game that was labeled Rogue.
That's what I thought it was gonna be or he's just using the Templars as a way to stop the Assassin's plans based on that one trailer they made, where he's walking up to that Assassin that vaguely resembles Altair.
@@calebcantcreate it wouldn’t work cause he’d be found out and then both sides would turn against him. Also both ideologies are completely different in method like literal polar opposites. They would find out as soon as he started working both sides and both would prolly try to kill him. Not unless he was both Templar and assassins royalty but even then I don’t think it could work
If anything, he was the most loyal to the creed
My biggest issue with rogue is how it ruins previously existing characters for no reason other than they could. The rest of the game is pretty ok, not great but definitely not bad.
I’d say it’s underrated if anything
I liked it a lot , I enjoyed carrying pistols and a rifle and it showed that the assassins aren’t fool proof and they struggle just like the templars
I disagree, it did nothing with the story besides making both sides do incredibly dumb political moves. Game was a joke compared to prior games
@@guyunknown6224”they struggle” tells me you didn’t understand a cent of the story
So underrated
Well it came out the same year as unity and it’s on par if not better than unity
I'm gonna go ahead and say as someone who got 100% completion on this game.
the only clever thing it does with the "play as a Templar" concept is removing the restriction on killing civilians because your character doesn't follow the creed, and instead sending assassins to hunt you down every couple of civilian kills instead of desync-ing you with the "[protagonist] did not kill civilians" message.
and it was intentional because for the few missions before Shay defects, the restriction is enforced, killing civilians gets a game over.
Yep. Ever wanted to play GTA in an Assassin's Creed game? This is pretty much it.
I would've liked to use the Infinite Ammo and No Reloading cheats, just to see the chaos unfold around me...
Which is funny since Shay defects to stop innocents from being killed by the assassins
@friccle_ there is a theory that the reason why Shay is able to kill civilians without penalty is not just because he joined Templars which he didn't do right away after leaving the Brotherhood, but because of his experience in Lisbon. He felt guilty and blamed himself for making thousands of innocents to die. Therefore animus didn't penalize the player for killing civilians.
AC Rogue is the worst of the 7-year golden age of AC
Ac2 is the worst actually
Unity/Rogue co-release was the biggest mistake this franchise ever made. Should have given each game it's own time to be made and reach full potential. No glitchfest or cheap love story for Unity, no bastardization of beloved characters and factions or Black Flag copy & paste for Rogue.
We will never get a main line Templar game again because this god awful decision making leading to rushed and horribly executed games.
the corporate shareholders/higher-ups got a lil bit too greedy.
Yea the story really felt like a.first draft where they had cool ideas but didn’t know how to actually follow through with them effectively. Just one of those games that needed more time to develop. .
Honestly, I wouldn't be upset about a second edition to Shay's story. However, they better take their time and polish it to perfection if they do.
I couldn't disagree more. AC Rogue may be the most underrated AC game out there. Shay was a very interesting character & he plays like an assassin because he was an ASSASSIN turned Templar. Rogue was an interesting story, it gave a different perspective on the side of Templars (two sides to war). Also it's not that they were trying to show him as a hero, he wasn't the automatic villain that you usually see from the Templars (more anti-hero). My personal fav AC game
But they don’t offer a different perspective. I’d Argue AC3 offered that perspective much better than this game. They reverse roles. I could see the Templars harming innocents with gas and observatories for the greater good not assassins
Seriously, everyone in the game had the situational analysis skills of a three year old with a head injury.
This game is fun as fuck
Took the best of AC3 & 4. Bunch of fun!
Makes sense as this game was initially supposed to be a haytham game
I used to like this game and think it wasn’t appreciated enough when it came out, but that was just because I was younger and didn’t really pay attention to the story, while also being addicted to the Black Flag style of gameplay. Nowadays, I can point out a flaw in the story with nearly every single mission, it reeks of missed potential and I can’t understand how people consider this game underrated now. And of course, when everyone calls something underrated, it’s not really underrated at that point
It's still underrated. Yes it's not perfect although it only had eight months to be developed and for what is is it's underrated.
The game doesn't paint all of the Assassins as bad guys, just the ones Shay was in association with. And besides, this is just Shay's story and why he left the Assassin's to become a Templar. The game isn't concerned with the objective reality of things, but only Shay's point of view. The game puts you in Shay's shoes and makes you see things only from his perspective because, well, you're literally playing as someone reliving his life.
You said nothing lord knows why you even typed all of this out just to make a point that led nowhere. Log off.
@@TravaughnWhiteside I think you're too stupid to understand. Just move along and don't bother yourself too much.
@@TravaughnWhitesideyou couldn't understand what he said so you came to the conclusion that he said nothing. Stop yapping
This game had a lot of potential. Should have cooked a liitle while longer. Liked the Naval Combat better here than in Blackflag.
Picked the most disliked AC game to call it overrated 😂
Absolutely no nuance , they make the Assassins out to be cartoonishly dicks ,doesn’t trust the player to empathise with Shae without the assassins essentially being Melodrama villains, It is doubly Ironic as Unity shows that the Assassins and Templars actually have alot of common ground
Cool ending though setting the events of Unity in motion
Exactly, they focused on making Achilles a retard instead of pointing out the flaws in the assassin doctrine. The game could’ve been a lot better if there were more emphasis on bringing the two orders into spotlight as teoricamente mirrors of each other through the methods they employ. The assassins are just as ruthless, prone to social manipulation and blinded by their own ideals as the templars. Both sides are real dicks to the commonfolk, bringing instability to somewhat prosperous societies and time periods.
@@alfredospautzgranemannjuni5864fact, both sides caused more harm than good, as far as i remember Assassins have caused multiple disasters other than Lisbon of course. I'd love an AC game where theres this new Organisation that tries to stop both Templar and Assassins from shaping the world.
I have played Rogue for the first time like 2 weeks ago. Was the only AC besides Liberation and Chronicles I never played. It was also the first time in a very long time I played one of "classic" ACs. I am a very big fan of Odyssey, but playing Rogue felt really good and I had lots of fun. The story was alright, I like the connections to 3, Black Flag and Unity and the Gameplay was decent(I like that the ship wasn't overused since that is the reason why I do not enjoy Black Flag)
Well blackflags main selling point is pirates so yea..
I liked it as well!
However, the story was too short and it felt like they hurried its end, while having an enormous amount of secondary missions. They had lots of material to enrich the story... If that had a better balance, it would have been very close to ACII in my heart
This game wouldn't change even if you swapped the organisations of the Assassins and Templars.
The assassins are just being templars here.
I disagree with the idea that Rogue makes a mockery of the assassins and templars. There have been multiple instances in all of the games in the franchise where there are some really bad assassins and some good templars who truly aren’t evil but just want to stop the chaos of free will. The entire plot of assassins creed 1 is Altair pursuing redemption for his crimes against the brotherhood and his recklessness. Arno’s story is to hunt down and avenge the death of his adoptive Templar Francois De La Sierre, who took him in as an orphan and raised him as his own son. And these are just two example out of an entire franchise with multiple entries. Neither side is black and white. I personally find it awesome that Ubisoft is willing to break the mold sometimes and tell stories that challenge our perceptions of the brotherhood and the order.
Rogue is more about the story than new features. It was nice being the other side. This reviewer missed the whole point of the game.
All the game did was flip the assassins and the templars, made the assassins like the former templars and the templars like the former assassins. It did little to explore the grey area that AC3 dipped it's toes into, which was the apparent intent I guess, but they instead opted for putting hoods on templars and coats on assassins.
I think it just shows that we only know how the brotherhood looks with a charismatic leader who rebuilts it right (altair, ezio and connor) but this is what it looks like when an incompetent person like Achilles takes the wheel (even in ac3 he was incompetent but we didnt focus on that because he wasnt in charge). Shay is a good guy and I think the templars arent showing him the bad things about them. And the parts of Haytham we see are not exactly great so its not completely black and white (we see his ruthlessness and disregard for anything but the greater good). I think the biggest mistake is they cut it too early and instead of showing us the slow corruption like they did with Haythem, we see him being the good guy and then killing Arno's dad for unknown reason which we kinda see as an unexplained turn to evil
The shift is just not justified. Especially when other games (assassins creed origins) touches on similar ideas and explains why they are bad. It’s never fully developed idea just an idea just as Aqua said a novelty.
@@berice4390 I didnt play the later games. i ended with Unity... So you might be right idk.
"One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist."
The point of the story is that just because, you believe you're on the "good side" doesn't mean you actually are.
The novelty of playing as a Templar in this game just helps show that the Assassins and Templars are very similar, only the key difference being their views on how the world should run both sides having strong cases in their beliefs as one side seeks to protect the freedom of will and the other wants complete control over the will of others, both seeing it as for the greater good.
In a universe such as AC where we have a millennia long war for supremacy between assassins and Templars. The opportunity to play as a defector would’ve been a golden opportunity to tell the audience the bad guys side of the story, and maybe why people sometimes need to be controlled against their free will. The Assassins being pro earthquake weapon and being over the top stupid and us dealing mostly with super friendly and swashbuckling Templars did not do much to sell in that fantasy.
Assassins and Templars basically represent the concepts of Order vs Chaos, Chaos here meaning the uninterrupted flow of nature. I don’t think the series has ever really hammered down this theme in any of their games, however Haytham Kenway is so far the only character that has made a pretty good case for Order
And what's wrong with him acting like an assassin he only ever joined the Templars to save the people he never truly cared about the Templars and why wouldn't he act like an assassin it's a very effective way to fight and get information.
Rogue's so lazy. Instead of taking advantage of playing as a templar to explore the philosophical other side of the conflict it simply says: "Well, THIS Assassins are corrupt and that's why they're evil, and this templars are TRUE templars and all the other templars were actually corrupted this whole time".
The thing is that the game makes no sense in terms of the assassins and templars. Again it more of what Shay thought. Him going to the templars is rushed I liked the beginning, but I would have rather have the assassins like I don’t know leave him for dead after something happened and one of the templars goes and tries to heal him and he joins the templars later seeing that both sides are not bad which would make sense than just these artifacts that destroys cities and achilles going along with it.
engaging in chemical warfare and working with criminals is too much? you forgot about "nothing is true everything is permitted"? also the criminal part Ezio did the same thing and Jacob Frye literally started a gang, and Edward / Adewale are pirates, Eivor is a viking who raids and kill civilians
I think you are very much twisting "Nothing is true, everything is permitted". As Ezio said, "To Say That Nothing Is True Is To Realize That The Foundations Of Society Are Fragile And That We Must Be The Shepherds Of Our Own Civilization.
To Say That Everything Is Permitted Is To Understand That We Are The Architects Of Our Actions, and we should accept the consequences of our decisions, whether they be glorious or tragic". Also, most of the AC protagonists used criminals against the dictatorial rule of the Templars to help the innocent. Ezio and Jacob did. Edward and Adewale as pirates, maybe, maybe not (though that's before they're Assasins). And I can't speak for Eivor since I haven't played Valhalla, but based in the trailer it seemed Eivor avoided killing innocents.
Also, Ezio literally exploded a gunpowder reserve in a fucking cave in Capadoccia, possibly killing and injuring dozens, just to get to a single target he could’ve gotten into easily by other means.
None of those are fucking war crimes lmao
Also wow what a way to try and twist the creed’s motto to justify bad writing
@@QuatarTarandirit means there are no limits. It’s not a rite of passage it’s a warning. Which is why the American colony’s fell. They views it as a rite of passage.
Bro didn’t understand the game then. Probably just stared at chat the whole time and didn’t pay attention to what was unfolding.
This guy doesn’t know how to have fun and enjoy a game. Games are made to have fun not being taken seriously. Rogue is the best assassins creed I’ve ever played imo
This game is grossly UNDERRATED.
it’s a great game, the majority of my issues with this game are due to the lack of a budget and attention to detail. Unity was given all the real attention: overall ROGUE was a great game and Shay a great protagonist.
This game showed that the Assassins too can be corrupted and arrogant. The Assassins thru the franchise have always been clear stay to the CREED. Shay saw that Achilles and the colonial assassins violated the Creed and didn’t keep to it. Shay is the only one who keep to the Creed he was betrayed not the other way around.
They could have made a trilogy where they had unity introducing Arno and a fully developed and thought out Rouge where you introduce shay and reveal that he killed arno's dad after a year or two after releasing unity. Now you have the final game of this trilogy where you play as both shay and Arno where they confront each other. This could have been the "Vengance Trilogy" or something since we have another trilogy, that being ezio's with a lighthearted tone while this one is dark
With you ‘til the end. How the fuck is Ezio’s trilogy ‘lighthearted’?
I don't know if my memory is correct, but wasn't Rogue initially supposed to be only for the PS3 and 360, while Unity did not release on those consoles because they were outdated hardware?
This explains why the game was not very revolutionary and reused a lot of Black Flag's gameplay. It was designed to be a "filler" game, but then it eventually was released on other platforms as well.
Thank you so much for saying this because this is what I’ve thought for years. When Unity came out, it did feel underrated but then after really thinking about it really is just the novelty, they don’t show the Templars perspective they just reverse the roles. I could see the Templars risking innocent lives for the greater good not the assassins. Also I feel as though SO many people have been saying it’s under rated for so long now that it isn’t under rated at all, nor was it ever really
I definitely haven't heard many good things about this game at all. I'm finally playing it for the very first time and it's fun, to say the least, but quite pointless.
If they were to remake (other) AC games, this would be a good one to put on the list.
People forget the assassins have always worked with criminals and they can’t control the fact that not all of them are good people, meanwhile the assassins and Templar’s can both be arrogant and show that both sides think their points are justified
Imagine if Unity got 1 more year
Unity was top 3 of the best assassins creed games they got the parkour just right 🔥
Rouge was so bad that people made a theory (this was years ago) that all of Shay's memories are actually memories of multiple people with Shay as a "channel" or the animus was used to manipulate the memories of Shay inorder to recruit more Templars
Rouge could've been a form of describing the fact that there's no right side and that things change over time.
Well here is the thing 1. The memories in these games makes it their Perspective and their ideology. 2. In Rogue they were trying to make Shag seem more of a hero, the assassins ended up causing a virus to the system.
Rouge also initially only released on PS3, Xbox 360, and PC. A decision I never understood.
Rogue may be a ripoff of black flag but still its better then oddesy and origins as a assasins creed game. Those should have been separate series imo
Finally someone else says it. this game went so far into the idea that 'it's a grey conflict' that it went right back around to having the assassins act just as cartoonishly evil as the borgia in brotherhood. except with the borgia it was fun since you knew they were the bad guys, here it's just frustratingly out of character.
They were not released on the same day, they had about a month between them
After playing it for a bit, I agree. Hot take here, but I did like the design of the Morrigan than the Jackdaw. Specifically the design of her ram and masts + sails.
Rouge got shafted because it came out on the 360 and PS3 when the new generation came out. So alot of people probably got rid of their old consoles and got a new one so were unable to get it at the time
I think that its cool they made a story where its not black and white 100% of the time. But they legit switched roles of assassin's acting like templars. I think it would have mellowed in together if he was hung up on what the assassin's made him do that no matter how bad the templars got when he joined. Cuz u can make them out to be the good guys at the start to trick shay of joining them and then he just slowly got corrupted And no matter how good the assassin's seem from that point on and trying to explain themselves. Showing regret. Contrast from them at the start where they were flawed and didnt care like how templars are shown as. He would have that constant thought of what happened and justify all the bad stuff he was doing. And at the end he was just corrupted by the templars. I think that would have been a better dynamic then swapping roles. It would show that templars are the evil side but it's not always so black and white. Where some factions can be flawed in the brotherhood. I think that would have been better imo
You definitely think the assassins are right 💀
To be fair rogue was only given 6 months of development time where unity supposedly had four YEARS of developement time and rogue was realeased at the price of a game with the size of unity when really was short enough to be considered a dlc. rogue never really got a chance
Don't the assassins work with criminals anyways because in syndicate they work with gangs and in 2 they work with mercenaries and the point of them both being made to look like fools is to show that there is more than what we see on just one side of the battle but the chemical warfare is just strange I'm not defending the game tho considering it's just black flag although it does lead into unity which is pretty cool
I recently played Rogue and it's probably the worst AC game. Playable if you're an AC fan, but nothing special. It's a lesser Black Flag with worse characters, a worse story, and worse locations.
It is frankly absurd the absolute difference in quality both graphically and mechanically rogue and unity have. Rogue while in the end a traditional AC game will always be overshadowed by Unity.
I believe that’s a misunderstanding that a lot of people have about assassins Creed Rogue but in reality, it’s just trying to show you that despite all the games, we played not all assassin’s are the good guys some of them can be misguided and downright bad people, and not every Templar is an evil mastermind scheming to take over the world some of them truly just want to bring order and peace to the world. That’s what the story was trying to portray in my opinion this isn’t some dimensional story where the good guys are always good and the bad guys are always bad. It’s subjective both sides think that there’s a good guys and fighting the good fight it’s just how it is and that’s what this game is trying to show you..
bro is onto nothing
Honestly while i don't dislike Rogue, i definitely have to say that the whole narrative of showing that not all Assassins are good and not all Templars are bad were done better in other games. Even Unity did a better job of showing that through its story (which imo was really good). Think about it- the Assassins punished Arno for tracking down and defeating the person who killed the Grandmaster of the order at the time. Meanwhile earlier the Grandmaster of the Templar order took in an orphaned child and raised him as his son. Other games in the series showed that really well too like AC1, AC3. Which also happens to be my only criticism of the Ezio trilogy, in that the Ezio trilogy story never questions the belief of either side.
I liked that Assassins intercept missions. And hostile Assasins hiding on the map, ready to jump Shay. The Ship is also more Badass than in Black Flag. I would call ACRogue an Black Flag 2.0
It’s sad that we never get to see Arno go after Shay or even witness that it was Shay.
Great and all, but
*I thought I heard the old man say "Leave her, Johnny leave her!"*
The point of Rogue was to doubt yourself and question yourself on either side’s legitimacy and superiority over each other. Yeah it sucks that it’s not too different or expands on much except for a little bit before AC3, but do you expect them to make a completely new game just because we switched perspectives in a game that summarizes war?
And almost no one talks about this game. I just beat Rogue, after the first time I played it years ago, it was so forgettable to me I thought I was confusing parts of AC3 and Black Flag. I think it’s fair to assume most people don’t like this game, which is fair. There’s plenty of AC games that don’t hit just right, but Rogue isn’t a nothing burger. Don’t treat it like so
Rogue is prob one of my favourite ac games. Only complaint i agree with that some others have is the fact its a little too short
I platinumed this in 36 hours on a cocaine when this came out. Now clean for 3
Years
Black Flag 2. But without any improvements.
People who say Unity is underrated: 🥴
People who know Rogue is underrated: 🫡
It’s honestly one of my favourite games. I understand where you are coming from and I wish it got more development time and more funding put into it but. What the team did in 8 months was create a fun game that I and I know others find very enjoyable
i love rogue personally, it has the gameplay of blackflag with a few added extras, and the story highlights the hypocrisy of the American assassin's and how the assassins and templars are hardly any different.
When it comes to the story itself, I feel as though it wasn't just a "hey, since we're playing as templars, the assassins are dicks"
And it was more of "hey, the assassins are kinda corrupt now, they think they're doing good but aren't."
The fact that the Templar gameplay is similar to assassin gameplay is the point. The point is that there is no good or bad side in the war, and both sides are as bad as each other
the naval combat in the North Atlantic was a pretty splendid idea
Rogue was the Xbox 360 / PS3 consulation prize when Unity was released as not everyone had upgraded to the Xbox one / PS4 at that stage. I always thought the last gen consoles of the time got the better deal, a more stable game with far fewer bugs, using as it did the Black Flag engine.
Wouldve been SO COOL if they just made it into some kind of rts civilization management game where you maybe have to physically have your character go place to place in real time, being on the lookout for assassins the whole time. Having to invest in bodyguards and soldiers, and many general economic centers. I know ubisoft wouldnt bother putting that much effort/money into a risky almost new ip, but dang one can dream
That sounds terrible
That's pretty much my opinion on it. Rogue was a missed opportunity to actually EXPLORE the moral grayness between the Assassins and the Templars and see the good and bad in both sides. But nah, they needed Shay to be justified in defecting to the Templars, so they just made the Assassins straight up villains. Hell, their outposts literally have flags with their insignia waving around for everyone to see, and the interception missions show them sending hit squads to carry out public killings so they can keep the populace too afraid to do anything. Also, the main story was way too short and didn't give us enough time to explore Shay's transition from an Assassin to a Templar.
I still enjoyed playing Rogue, but it needed way more time in development.
I recently bought a Nintendo Switch Oled and with it I bought also AC:The Rebel Collection (AC IV: Black Flag & AC: Rouge (+ AC:Liberation & AC:Freedom Cry DLCs included for free)), and tbh I do enjoy AC:Rouge more than AC IV:Black Flag
My understanding of playing Assassin's Creed Rogue you start out playing with under a sect of Assassins that became work Templar like pushed aside and joined a group of Templars that were more assassin like
Saying Rogue is Overrated is crazy
It is the writing is very childish
AC Rogue was only created, as an afterthought, to give xbox 360 users something to play with at the time.
I was pretty hyped because I just finished Unity, and while Unity’s story was forgettable and ridiculous at times, Rogue was that x10. The Assassins were made to look so bad and for what lol, just so Shay could be right. Then at the end the Templars are all like “Join us, Numbskull…or else😈”. When he goes “I make my own luck,” every opportunity he gets I die from cringe. Bro thinks he’s so cool 😭😭😭
Seeing this game pop up on my feed is friggen dope
Wait but he kinda shits on it lol
@Packrat825 ya because it actually does look up why it wasn't good. ubsofit had a short budget for it so he shouldn't shit on it just because he doesn't even knew that and plus unity had a crap story playing as a simp for girl it was a dumb story and literally got bannishd from the brotherhood
The game is indeed underrated. and not overrated it's not the game's fault that it only had eight months and a small team. The game isn't bad just okay.
Shay is my personal favorite protagonist (dw Ezio is still second) his outfits are the best in the series. Personally I like not being a complete Templar, he's more of a mercenay that has sworn allegiance to their order. It's not until later in life that he begins to follow them more closely.
So as someone who’s never played Rouge, but loved black flag, I assumed Rouge is like BF 2? Or should I just stick to BF?
Where the majority picked up unity, i got rogue. That was the last real AC game in my opinion
I just like that you can kill as many civilians as you want with the only penalty of a bounty hunter.
Bro, the assassins worked with criminals all the time. Ezio with the theives, Edward with pirates, Evie and Jacob had a gang. What are you on about?
Could have been a black flag DLC, it's really short but it's also a good game. I play for the first time 2 weeks ago so it's really fresh and I agree for the templar story beeing a miss but I don't think it's overrated at all. 3/5 for me.
Overrated? I always thought it was underrated, it at least needed to be longer
Rogue is the last good game in the series. And the Assassins have always been only nominally better than the Templars.
this game is one of the best plots in the series, some of these comments are just plain unfair and untrue. i can make a case, believe me but, id rather say just play it. the remastered is fenomenal; and if you play it back to back with unity you have a solid story and a lot of what the assassin who trains Arno says actually makes sense; they both become more solid games when played toguether
It’s a shame because if Ubisoft didn’t just make the assassins act like templars then this could’ve been top 5 game in the series with an interesting plot and showing how the Templar’s really work and interesting conflicts. Instead it’s just “Assassins are terrorists” which they kinda are to a certain extent
Actually bought it a few years back. Regret it so much
I was literally playing this earlier. Rogue is probably in my top 3 assassins creed games