Argghh!!! EVH5150, JHS AT & Angry Charlie, Wampler Pinnacle Deluxe & More…
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
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In this episode, Daniel and Mick get their rock on. And we warn you, this video is long and contains lots of very average rock guitar playing!
But, with the new EVH5150 Overdrive just released, we thought you might like to hear it alongside its stiffest competition in the name of…
• Wampler Pinnacle Deluxe
• JHS Angry Charlie
• JHS AT
• Xotic SL Drive
• Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive
Massive thanks to Simon Dickenson for lending us 'Shelley', his Charvel San Dimas Style 1HH and also to Luke Burley who entrusted us with his Washburn N4 and Ibanez AT10.
Amps today are a Hughes & Kettner Puretone and a reboxed Marshall JTM45.
Mick will continue this description later, as he's running for a train! (Talk about planning, eh Mick?)
As ever, all effects and amp routing and switching is handled effortlessly by TheGigRig G2.
Enjoy this video, and sorry to all the good rock players out there!
9:03 pinnacle - 14:55 5150 - 20:45 AC - 26:53 AC AT - 31:25 SL - 32:10 SD1
A true hero! 👊🏻
@@DaviUba I think it's easier to hear the difference between the pedals when you can skip back and forth right to them. Glad it's useful for somebody else as well.
Thanks! Helps a lot to cut the excess chat and dig straight into the audio files! TPS has good stuff, those brits know their trade. Too bad they talk and goof off too much for my taste! Don't see the value of straying from topic, cracking private jokes, and excess noodling. Scott's JHS pedals YT channel is way better to learn and understand fx pedals, I think.
Thanks! You are a hero!
Thanks! I think Pinnacle sounded best here.
I still play like I’m in 1984 here in 2020. And I’m proud of it 😂😊🎸🎵
Our hater is late. I do hope he's ok
Ah, there he is, I was getting worried
When I win the lottery, I'm going to employ these guys to do this show daily, in my front room, which will be Abby Road recording studio........ With Jennifer Lawrence serving drinks.......and chips.
We accept Ben. (Jen's a TS-808 fanatic, by the way). :0)
I'll be checking your lottery win status weekly from now on :)
Mick Taylor really? I would have thought she'd be more of an Archer fan.....
You see cos of the character in the...... Never mind.
You two are the best example how much fun music is :)
Ah, cheers mate. That's what it's all about isn't it? :)
+Daniel TheGigRig It definitely is, since making music is called "play"!
Wow the Pinnacle sounds much better than the EVH to my ears (at least with this set-up). Didn't expect that. I also thought the Angry Charlie sounded great.
This was the first “That Pedal Show” that I ever watched 8 years ago and life has never been the same since. Came for the 5150OD and stayed for the endless gear information with some entertaining tangents mixed in. You guys are great!
That Pinnacle really delivers on the Judas Priest sound for DAYS!!!!
Wrench -that was exactly what I thought at first note, when they turned on that pedal. Regardless of their likes,the EVH delivers on the Van Halen guitar sound much better than any of the other pedals, for DAYS!!!! The other pedals just seem to be more versatile than the EVH.
It never gets old watching Mick get weirded out when Dan suddenly shows that he has actually practiced shredding at some point. "Wait... . you can do that?!"
Damn, where were these pedals in the the late 70's/early 80's when we were all climbing over each other to try to get the Eddie sound.
+1971SuperLead Which Eddie?
"The Eagle" Edwards
The pedals is not how Eddie got his sound, he got his sound by adjusting the VAC of the amp using a Variac.
i think the tube screamer + BOSS ODs came out around 1980, thats all u need + a tube amp.
It took pedal makers that long to figure out how to make the "amp in a box" sound good. And yeah BluesLawyer, EVH may have gotten his sound from a modded $5,000 amp, but my entire goddamn rig costs less than $1,500, so these pedals are where I would get that kind of sound.
The EVH is the greatest overdrive/distortion pedal ever made.
10:38 - best Mick reaction ever.
He looked at the camera like, wow, did he just do that? Haha
You guys sound almost embarrassed for enjoying this. Fly your hair metal flag with pride, I say!!
You'd need to have hair...
That pedal show is waaaaaaaay better than what black friday could ever offer anyone.
Just the best show on YT. Fridays just can't come round soon enough!
14:38 "Not the most comfortable I've ever been in a video Dan" LMFAO! that was priceless guys! Dan was cracking up and Mick is just going WTF? too funny! thanks again! another great week!
That San Dimas is MINT!
I've watched a lot of your videos. This is by far the funniest one. I couldn't stop laughing. The pre-war Martin shreds incredibly well. Thanks for all the help sorting out pedals for a newbie.
Dan Harris look up talk box and vocoder vs dan and mick. It's funnier lol
One thing I love about your shoutouts is that instaed of compering pedals clones with the knobs positionned the same you tweak them in order to see if they can sound the same which very few on YT seems to do.
Around the 10 minute mark. That was actual shred. Diminished and all!
I'm glad you didn't bring in any substitute teachers :-)
Mick screamin' at the bridge pickup at the end was freakin' hilarious!! Now THAT'S what I call "Screamin' Feedback"...
this IS the most fun I've ever seen Daniel ever have ;) - he's beside himself ! ~ very good show chaps
Great episode as ever. Not sensing much love for the SL drive? Have found it one of the few pedals that stacks well with my EP booster - which I think is my favourite pedal ever - with my Les Paul and Marshall vintage modern set up. These videos have really illustrated how different pedals react completely differently with different guitar/amp set ups - making buying pedals a lot harder!!
Cheers dudes
I never sold a pedal quicker than the sl drive kept it for 1 day so shit
Hey dudes. Ed VH was my friend. I loved that “Mofo”, which is what I used to call him. Or “Ed Van Heineken”, JK. Dan, you’ve got the story kinda correct about his Amp. But here’s what he actually did. He had a Marshall 100WATT head from UK. So he HAD to Dime all the knobs just to hear it but he couldn’t figure out why. It was the 1970’s, he was a kid. So, he didn’t go the route of a converter. “The Brown Sound” was not a Blackout. It was almost a Brownout. So that’s the level he pushed his Amp with a Variac and experimented with voltage to find what sounded best to him. Then you’re right about a dimmer. He had some weird box that took the output of the Marshall and Amplified it into a Solid State H&H power Amp. I may have a photo of the box. But suffice to say, Alex plays LOUDLY on drums. Ed turned it all the way up on every knob then he’d adjust everything using UK type voltage after he began to hear it. Then he had somebody build him that box to make it even louder. The way he “crash tested” his 5150 Amps over here in Corona at Fender, 20 miles) he put 15 heads up. Then 30 speaker cabs at least that’s what I saw. Then Ed starts being Ed on the guitar until he’s satisfied, then he lays down his guitar and it’s still as loud as when he was playing and it’s feeding back. Shuts the door. “Don’t you want us to switch that off? You’re not finished?” Ed goes “Nah, that’s how I crash test my gear. If it they’re still running in a month then they have a decent chance of surviving my tour.”! So they lock up and Ed goes leave it. See you in a month. I was told he did that 3x before he said OK! ❤R.I.P.❤ He was the kindest dude and like me, he wore his heart on his sleeve. So to speak. Everyone who spent time with him was privileged to get to spend that time and knowing Ed is loving Ed. I met him in 1989. At G.I.T. With Holdsworth. Lots of people don’t know. Alan would not likely have had a record deal at all if Ed hadn’t really pushed for him! They were together that day. So I grabbed Ed. Made him teach me something I was working on. Blessed! Thomas Adams 11:11🙏🏼🎸🎶🎶😉✌🏼 Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 2023 coming soon! Let this year be Free of Assholes and Oligarchs. 🎉😊
Even you old blues gits can't help getting a big ole s**t eating grin on when playing with high gain. Because it's FUN! :-D
MeTuLHeD I’m a blues guy but I like playing high gain. It is much more fun.
Love the little SL drive for space on the board, but it could definitely benefit from a 3 band eq and external controls for the different amp type settings compared to the dip-switch settings (instead of being housed internally)
GREAT episode. To my ears, the two best pedals were the Pinnacle and the Angry Charlie in that order. The 5150 seems, to me, like it's missing something. Of course, you really do need to be in the room to hear it, because the UA-cam/Internet/Computer conversion thing steals away quite a bit of the sound, but you guys do as good a job as any. One thing was for sure, though - every pedal sounded better through the Marshall, which isn't surprising. I've played through H&K amps many times and to me they sound like solid state amps.
don't stop making this, boys. gold.
Personal fav episode. Love it. Sunday guilty pleasure, headphones on with a cup of earl grey, how very core-hard. Rock on gents!
Great video. Although I wish Mick wasn't so self critical on his rock playing, it just takes one of his lush bends and you learn a lot about how the pedal sounds.
I bought a JHS AT right after watching this video. Thank you guys excellent excellent job!
Eat 'Em Smile was actually a modded Marshall that Steve Vai borrowed from Steve Stevens, he was trying to get the tone happening, and as you might imagine, was struggling to do so with the Carvin, so then Stevens sent his Lee Jackson modded amplifiers over.
-A kid who cares way too much about 80s shred guitar tones.... haha
Cheers Curtis, always happy to learn more :)
Why does that 'very special' period of guitar playing always garner chuckles from UA-cam jockeys. I don't see musical instrument & accessory companies going to the wall to capture that classic 90s sound. When is Wampler going to make pedal that captures a true Oasis tone.
MrHermango I totally agree. Very few of us in 1984 wanted to play the guitar because of Robert Smith from The Cure or the guitarist from Echo and the Bunnymen. We wanted to play because of EVH.
There ain’t an “Oasis pedal”, but is not too hard to find a pedal that captures that sound. Almost every Vox or Marshall OD type pedal will do the job, then, put a little delay and you’re there.
Cause it's ridiculously east to capture Oasis tone and cause hipsters are braindead assholes.
i have an angry charlie.. nails the jcm800 for sure..
You guys have the best chemistry. These are some of the most educational and entertaining videos about pedals on UA-cam. Thank you both for putting so much thought and effort into these videos. I have learned so much about my guitar tone from you both.
Love it guys! Love for you's to do a rat and ds-1, and more heavy overdrives with different amps because I find they react the most significantly to different amps!
The best episode yet! Good fun had by all it seems and great to see you different guitars even if you both need therapy now after all that wang bar action!!
It's 9:00 am here in Salt Lake City, Utah and your intro woke me right up and put me in a good mood for the day :)
Thanks for doing That Pedal Show. It's one of the highlights of my week!
Thank you so much for making all these entertaining and educational videos! There's not better way of starting the weekend then have a beer and see the latest TPS video! That has become a firm tradition by now :-) Cheers!
Daniel seemed like he had so much fun making this video :) Put a smile on my face! Really awesome playing too man! :D
That ending with Mick is still the best of your vids guys. Keep up the great and humorous work.
Great review - very well done and would that other reviews were this good.
One more time you guys hit the nail in the head. Just out of curiosity, I got the pinnacle deluxe and I actually use it to get that gritty aggressive blues sound. Try it out guys, its awesome!
+Pedro Abdalla awesome, will need to try it :)
Never give the man on the right a guitar with a Floyd Rose ever again
Agreed
+Daniel TheGigRig LOL great Job mate :D
why?
sleighte: Sleighte...Lol. That's funny man. That's funny.
34:02
This is one of the best UA-cam channels!!! I enjoy watch every video. Great work!
Great Pedal shootout...but my god that was an ordeal to listen too.
plot twist dan is yngwie...
Hahhahahahahaha
Can’t imagine either of these guys being able to get ‘angry’ at all :)
Thanks Guys for the show. I love watching you and getting to know new things. thanks
This was the funniest episode yet. You guys should take this act on the road. Probably a good idea to follow up next week with a "clean tones" show. Cheers.
What a great shredder is Dan!
Ha! Yoda
Mucho appreciato you guys doing this shootout video. Has really helped me narrow down the one I'm after.
LOLLLL...AWESOMEVIDEO,LOVE THE AT @ JHS !!! I USED IT AND THIS IS INSANE !!!!
These guys manage to be highly entertaining and highly informative at the same time. Love it.
THE PINNACLE - is just that but here are some insights into this gem which I've been using for about 7 yrs now. The older version is voiced a little differently than the newer version; i.e. older is more JTM/JMP sounding - newer more JCM. Where both SHINE is how well it cleans up when you roll your guitar volume back. This is IMHO the acid test with any dist pedal because most high $ dist pedals sound great with your guitar volume cranked but thin, tinny and tinsely when you roll your guitar volume back. This is where the Pinnacle shines - it actually mimics the same dynamic as when you dime a JTM/JMP/JCM when you roll your guitar volume back. You don't lose anywhere near the bottom and body of sound as with just about any other dist pedal. Brian Wampler designed the Pinnacle to be more interactive with your playing which is why he also built a certain amount of sag into it. The newer version actually has an on and off sag button on it which can be adjusted from inside the pedal. Also, the newer version of the Pinnacle Deluxe's boost function can be used independently from the dist - you can bypass the dist and use it as a boost - not helpful if you use your boost pedal in the effects loop but great if you use it in front of the preamp.
How are the voicing different
@@bokchoiboi9016 Marshall JTM & JMP 50 Watt amps are darker and have more a pronounced mid range. Most classic hard rock guitarists from the 70's used them. Marshall JCM's are brighter with less pronounced mids and have slightly more gain. 80's metal bands were all using JCM Marshalls.
@@GTX1123 oh I meant you said the old pinnacle had a different voicing to the new one.
@@bokchoiboi9016 Yes. The older Pinnacle is a bit more like a JTM / JMP whereas the newer one more like a JCM. Both are tweekable but I'm really hooked on the older one. I have both on my pedal board in case the older one ever takes a dump in the middle of a show but I don't think that would happen. Brian Wampler's stuff is very well made.
@@GTX1123 hmmm i wanted the older one, but got the new one...wondering if the old one will sound better
You guys were in a mood for this one. Great!
Even listening to my iPhone at low volume, I can sense the looseness of the Pinnacle. I have a Standard version and to my ears, I hear a richer midrange in it. It also seems to make playing easier.
Love it!
I now want the AT, AC and the SL Drive. THANKS GUYS, JEEZ
Rewatching this ... Dan was having so much fun here. Good to see.
This is one of my favorite videos, just having fun and being silly with fantastic sounds. Swangin' and Shredin'
Loved the Pinnacle and the Angry Charly, great showcase you guys ,thanks
that washburn sounds amazing
I look forward to your show every Friday when I get home from work. Love from Coquitlam, BC, Canada!
I like that you preface this by saying you're not the most qualified to shred, Dan killed it! And it looked like as much fun for you two as it was for us.
You guys had a great time with this one. Lots of editing I see when the train went off the rails. I still have not bought one pedal yet.
Who else really doesn't care about the gear and just wants to listen to these guys jam?
lots of jamming on our latest episode over at
ua-cam.com/video/GErx9zRPQgA/v-deo.html
You guys are nuts! (In a good way)
Thanks, that was fun.
An almost 4 years old show and still fun and great! Actually came here via the Carpe Diem overdrive from a more recently show. Always great guys!
Great show gents, loads of fun!
+jAMMAN798 Sup dude! Love your vids
+Josh A Thanks Mr. Josh! I'm just checking out other cool vid channels.
+jAMMAN798 h hop0pkmolzszhzhw
so much fun & joy :) Back to the innocence !! I'm raised by those sounds too !!
great job guys! possibly the most entertaining tps yet!
You guys are great I was laughing with you. Who didn't try those riffs back in the day. Thanks
Well done - boys...well done!!!
This could be my brother and myself...really funny!
ahahaah so much fun!!!, i think never seen daniel enyoing like that... Cheers guys!!
Just discovered you guys, I love how much fun you are having!
Thanks guys, thoroughly enjoyed that!!
Love the "Brown Sound" Eddie had. It's such a enjoyable rock tone.
Btw. Eddie recorded the 'Beat It' solo with a solid state amp.
What’s the amp he used? Roland JC-120?
Been chasing Ed's tone since 78. Today, like they say , get a super clean amp in my case 2 Fender Blues Deluxe in stereo and a pricey $300 Radial Plexitube pedal which actually has a tube. The opening 7 chords in, Somebody get me a Doctor, is exactly the tone. Closest to a Marshall thats been on for hours and the tubes are glowing. For a much less expensive alternative at under $100, the CMATMODS Brownie is a very close second.
SAN DIMAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL RULES!
Peaked in high school did ya? lmao..
Mark P Bill and Ted the first one...
Wyld Stallions bro!! woo!!
Oh hell yes!!!!
Sew Crates
Frood Dude
Pinnacle wins the "Brown Sound", but the AT is the pedal I would buy. Nice work, fellas.
+Ja Tin totally agree with that
I have to admit the pinnacle does sound good here. It's just not my favorite.
coffeewaldo AT is the best here.
Or get an MI Crunch Box, which is what the JHS is a clone of.
Awesome to see a Puretone getting some love.
My all time favorite pedal platform.
I love it too Nick. So many people don't understand it, or even know about. It's just pure, visceral, unbridled tone
These are great comparisons for similar type pedals with really good sound quality coming through.. makes choosing the right one easier...awesome job guys !
The Wampler into the JTM 45 really nails the early VH records. But the MXR can nail the early VH and the more aggressive Van Hagar tones. The both cost the same too. The SD1 that Steve Vai uses is a Keely modded version that sounds completely different, much bigger bottom and midrange. The AT Angry Charlie surprised me, very big sounding. But MXR really did a great job, it has so much adjustability that it will get a big variety of tones. Wait until you get a Friedman BE-OD.
I knew a few guys who tried the light dimmer wired into the power cord. One of them got knocked on his ass at a show, he said the amp smoked just before he got knocked out. I got my Lee Jackson Modded Marshall in '80. It still sounds great. He used good components and construction. It's survived 35 yrs. It's Still my go-to amp for when I want that tone.
The look on Dan’s face at the :26 mark needs to be made into a t shirt!
Best pedal show on the net. PERIOD. This is how it should be done. Quality all around.
One of your best videos. I love the metal playing by you guys! I love the AT. I have two!
You guys are great. What a refreshing gear video show. Ive actually purchased the JHS AT due to this review. And I own the Pinnacle as well. Keep up the good work guys. Thanks
how many people that envy with these guys.. what a sound!!! what a gear!!
Amazing show! Probably the most informative riggers on the tube!
I was 14 (1977) when I heard Eruption and argued with friends for months that it was keyboard (it was that original). Great to hear guys that can't really play this kind of music giving it a go as it sounds like me for the last 30 years so a much better review for that fact. Thanks guys.
Great job, guys! I always love your show!
Who knew that Daniel could shred? Jesus that sweeping and tapping with that Pinnacle Deluxe...
Some great playing by Dan on that Charvel! I Love my Xotic SL Drive, and my JHS Angry Driver! I may buy the EVH 5150 soon.
Great comparisons. Love the AT. The think that impressed me most was how smooth and noise free the switching was on the G2.
Proper Tom and Jerry laugh from Dan at the end there! XD
lol, Mick saying "more feedback!" like Oliver Twist asking for seconds
I think I’m gonna get rid of my evh and go with the AT +
I did...and sold the pinnacle too.
I'd love to see something about the more 'pedantic' side of tone as an epidode?
Speakers/brands, tubes, cable lengths, buffered vs true bypass outputs etc, reckon you could make it happen? Love your stuff guys!
hey I just wanted to let you guys know that the original distortion sound that Eddie used to record the solo for Michael Jackson's "Beat it", is not what ended up as a final recorded sound for the album. According to Steve Lukather, Quincy Jones had stated that he thought that Ed's guitar sounded "too tough", so they had Steve reduce the distortion sound on his solo track after it was recorded.
I read that too
What they were doing around the 17:20 mark is usually what you end up doing when you have a lot of pedals. Or heads,guitars...
You have a permanent tone in your head. When you get a pedal you adjust it till you hopefully hit it. Then you get another pedal and do the same. Eventually you end up with a nice colorful board full of pedals and pretty lights and they all sound about the same. With Teles,Strats,Les Pauls.Marshalls,Fenders, whatever.. You always gravitate towards that " inner tone" and take the treble out,put bass in,gain here,less there. Fun as hell but eventually you end up with one guitar and one cord plugged straight into one head.
Your demos of pedals are excellent. Great players as well.
I thought the EVH,Pinnacle and Angry Charlie sounded pretty close. Can't go wrong with any of those pedals.