Real Vintage Fenders or our Reissues? Oh dear...

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  • Опубліковано 24 вер 2015
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    WARNING: this video contains gratuitous vintage guitar tomfoolery and completely illogical fascination with old bits of wood when we really should know better... and there's not that much about pedals.
    Plus, if you don't like Fender Strats and Teles, look away now. There is a Two-Rock Studio Pro 35, Analogman King Of Tone, Kingsley Jester and Analogman ARDX20 featured, however.
    For anybody still tuned in, Daniel and Mick had the opportunity to go and visit Pete Lewis of Lewis Guitar Works who, as it turns out, had assembled some of his own vintage Fenders, alongside some from friends. We asked if we could take some cameras because...
    Daniel and Mick both play reissue, vintage-style Fender guitars and they generate plenty of questions in That Pedal Show videos. So, how about we play some genuine oldies alongside our fave axes and see what's what?
    Many of the guitars featured are not absolutely original, pristine examples. You'll find refinishes, new parts and all the other stuff that goes along with playable old guitars, so please don't be telling us that such and such isn't such and such because it doesn't have such and such!
    The guitars are:
    1959 Fender Esquire
    1964 Fender Telecaster
    1957 alder body Fender Stratocaster
    1961 ash body Fender Stratocaster
    1961 alder body Fender Stratocaster
    Um, and a couple of reissues - Mick's American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster and Dan's Custom Shop ’63 Telecaster.
    They're all played through the Two-Rock Studio Pro 35 head into a custom 1x12 Zilla cab with Celestion G12H-75 Creamback speaker.
    TheGigRig G2 handles the pedals and amp effortlessly, as always.
    Daniel is now completely in love with the rosewood board ’64 Tele, and Mick just wishes he'd never played any of them. Happy days!
    Massive thanks to Pete and Lewis Guitar Works for making this all possible!
    Enjoy this video and we'll get back to some more serious pedal stuff next week!
    For more on Lewis Guitar Works see www.lewisguitarworks.com
    You can find them on Facebook too.
    For more TheGigRig see www.thegigrig.com

КОМЕНТАРІ • 965

  • @zac_m
    @zac_m 7 років тому +134

    The way you just said "This is a '61 fiesta red Strat." I would never get tired of saying that. I'd say it every time I picked it up, even if I was by myself. "This is a '61 fiesta red Strat." I'd go back to every forum I was ever a part of and change my 'signature' to "I own a '61 fiesta red Strat."
    And, just an aside, a Strat into a Two Rock is a disgustingly perfect combination. That is what guitar is supposed to sound like.

    • @spacejazz6272
      @spacejazz6272 7 років тому +1

      I think you're forgetting the king of tone

    • @fugamante1539
      @fugamante1539 7 років тому

      Zac Miller that's funny bro', and completely true too.

    • @MoooseBlood
      @MoooseBlood 6 років тому +2

      It is disgusting, frankly I'm disgusted.

    • @af-lt5he
      @af-lt5he 5 років тому

      +PaseoDeLaEstrella ir pummiced and nippled

    • @daveywiles6412
      @daveywiles6412 5 років тому +5

      I own a 1960 fiesta red Strat...I play it almost everyday

  • @KnightSquire
    @KnightSquire 6 років тому +152

    Unfortunatly, Pete was never seen again... after kindly giving his guitars to Dan and Mick.

  • @Wooodygun
    @Wooodygun 8 років тому +15

    'This is me ...done!'. Love it! Nice to see a guitarist so enthused. :-)

  • @Zhaggysfaction
    @Zhaggysfaction 8 років тому +13

    These kind of things should ALWAYS be done as blind tests or without the knowledge of what guitar is which or which is new and old. Because we all know that if you know that its a 61 strat, you'll gonna hear a 61 strat no matter what it sounds. It's not fair. I know this is not a test, but play those blinded and I guarantee you'll have interesting results. People have mistaken Squiers for Custom Shop stuff. It feels different because you make it feel different.

  • @capturedbyjupiter
    @capturedbyjupiter 8 років тому +17

    That e chord on the esquire literally gave me chills and made my eyes water. Damn I love guitar. As I get older the great vintage gear just touches me in my special place. My body is ready...

  • @Dartheomus
    @Dartheomus 3 роки тому +9

    Quick reference for myself!
    12:26 - 61 Reissue Strat
    13:15 - 61 Strat Ash Body
    15:13 - 61 Strat Original
    17:56 - 57 Strat Original

  • @JakeStRoas
    @JakeStRoas 8 років тому +49

    That Esquire sounds unbelievable, That E chord had me laughing out loud just out of pure joy. You lucky bastards! I mean that in the best possible way of course. Keep up the good work fellas.

  • @oussamaokbi
    @oussamaokbi 7 років тому +27

    The 57 strat sounds RIGHT, That is indeed the holy grail.

    • @ZenDriveSeven
      @ZenDriveSeven 6 років тому

      Oussama Okbi I completely agree! It was on another level.

  • @ThomasRBowen-gq3jr
    @ThomasRBowen-gq3jr 8 років тому +217

    2 causes for the difference in sound between new and vintage. 1. Alnico magnets lose their charge over time. Thats a big reason why they sound different with age. 2. The reason old guitars sound so good is because all the "dogs" have been chucked in the trash, bon fire, broken, busted up or scrapped for parts over the last 40-50 years. The only ones still around, for the most part, are the good ones.

    • @noobpower96
      @noobpower96 8 років тому +19

      yeah, survivor bias.

    • @johnnydee5658
      @johnnydee5658 7 років тому +8

      That makes sense to me!

    • @e.tienne6600
      @e.tienne6600 7 років тому +4

      Thomas R. Bowen
      Yet we seem to recognise the sound of the songs... so there must be more than this

    • @richardhunter9779
      @richardhunter9779 7 років тому +2

      Yup, never buy a guitar that has barely been played!

    • @goldmole1
      @goldmole1 6 років тому +4

      The bad ones, hardly ever played on, mint condition with the original factory supplied strings and tags still on it are all stowed away in Japanese bank vaults
      The bumped and scratched ones, those are the ones to have;-)

  • @masterofthetelecaster
    @masterofthetelecaster 8 років тому +7

    The Esquier sounded so sick ! Thanks for sharing this eargasmic sounds with us! I have never ever heard other guitar that sounds so rock n roll as the vintage Tele ;)

  • @sobrinus7424
    @sobrinus7424 8 років тому

    This is by far my favorite show right now. I am learning tons of stuff about guitars, amps and pedals while having fun. Watching you feels like hanging out with two fellow music freaks who have access to all the cool gear I can't afford, fooling around with toys like its christmas. The fact that you have so much fun while taping the show makes it even more enjoyable. So please keep up the good work. And don't worry about having to talk about rigs in every show, you could be talking about string materials, showing how it affects the sound, and I would still find it interesting.

  • @luigivillani4924
    @luigivillani4924 7 років тому +1

    The '61 Ash Strat might be my favorite Strat tone I've ever heard...something about the way the upper mids and treble comes through with such clarity! Wonderful and inspiring--you guys are awesome

  • @larrygeetar9309
    @larrygeetar9309 8 років тому +7

    That Esquire is ridiculous. Somewhere Jeff Beck has been inspired to play
    his old Yardbirds tracks. Just hearing the first E chord made me laugh out loud.
    Rock and Roll all the way.

  • @CNCTEMATIC
    @CNCTEMATIC 7 років тому +50

    Wow. Those hundreds of thousands of dollar guitars sound amazing. Through an amp that costs many thousands of dollars. With a rare, $700 odd dollar pedal.

  • @stratmagic6893
    @stratmagic6893 8 років тому +1

    what a great video -I was smiling and in awe right along with you guys-I have played quite a few vintage strats and some of them are just indescribable -you made me rush over a pull my tele out of the case and have a go with the bridge pickup-your playing was also a pleasure to listen to-thanks

  • @nozmo9181
    @nozmo9181 8 років тому

    You guys are great. you have the perfect amount of gear geekism and humor. I really appreciate your genuine appreciation of great tone.

  • @imgonnagetbanned
    @imgonnagetbanned 7 років тому +7

    The pickups in the Fiesta Red '61 are the nicest sounding pickups I have ever heard in my life...!!!

  • @steveymoon
    @steveymoon 8 років тому +20

    this is an awesome video... that Esquire might be one of the best guitars I've ever heard.

  • @stevesmith3990
    @stevesmith3990 7 років тому

    Your enthusiasm for all things guitar is infectious, great video.

  • @dandyc7853
    @dandyc7853 8 років тому

    This is very informative and showcases the tangible differences between wood and how it truly impacts tonality of the guitars. I have been a Les Paul and Strat fan for years but listening to Dan's guitar playing has made me into a Tele believer. Your show has become one of my favorite due to how you really delve into the topics.

  • @jorgejn1978
    @jorgejn1978 8 років тому +18

    You have the best show ever...

  • @erikceman5354
    @erikceman5354 8 років тому +16

    I think that Mick's 61 reissue sounds funtastic

  • @guitarigmusik197
    @guitarigmusik197 8 років тому

    You guys are simply the best!!! Keep the faith and your true passion for wires and wood. 👍👍👍

  • @TheCheshireGoat
    @TheCheshireGoat 8 років тому

    I just discovered you guys - so much fun to watch! Great playing, great tones. Thanks, and keep up the good work!

  • @MWallis2
    @MWallis2 7 років тому +13

    For me, the two 50s guitars stole the show. The 61 ash Strat was a close second to the 57 though. I know you guys didn't want to say it for fear of causing a UA-cam shit-storm, but the wood changes and opens up over time. All of the vintage Fenders had that harmonic complexity and open-ness similar to a semi hollow. Just like 50s Les Pauls do. Magnets weakening, and wood aging leads to the best tones.
    I have a 70s Yamaha acoustic (Martin type thing). While it doesn't get much play (frets are terribly worn), it sits in front of my stereo system at home. The sympathetic vibrations from the speakers mimic hours of weekly play. The difference in tone from when I bought it 20 years ago is tremendous. It's louder, more articulate, and rings for days.
    The same notion has been put into practice for centuries (literally) with string players making sure to warm up their instruments in the weeks leading up to a performance. This has been common knowledge amongst string players for hundreds of years before the UA-cam/forum debates on vintage guitars came to be. The complexity of tone is difficult to hear thru UA-cam, and many people simply don't have the ears for it, but in a room with an instrument the differences are undeniable.

  • @FabrizioPeretti
    @FabrizioPeretti 8 років тому +52

    hey i have a request...would you do some vids discussing historyc amps like vox, the bassman exc...explaining what they're good for? since amp is a huge part of the tone you look for, and a lot of people struggle finding the right one, give us your knowledge!
    anyway, i loved this one!!!!

    • @ericgl182
      @ericgl182 7 років тому

      fabrizio peretti definetely do this! Im in a struggle for a new gigging amp

    • @manifestgtr
      @manifestgtr 6 років тому

      Both of you...get a bassman ltd with some good tubes...
      I’ve played clubs, theaters, outdoors, you name it...rock, blues, pop, jazz and the bloody thing has NEVER sounded anything but amazing. Great dispersion, eats up pedals, easy to dial in, you can blend the “channels”, not as heavy as you think. They’re beautiful amps and they’re built to outlast your grandkids...if you want something smaller, the custom 68 vibrolux is just as impressive in many ways

  • @Maya_Ruinz
    @Maya_Ruinz 3 роки тому +1

    I can’t stop rewatching this, these guitars sound like heaven. That Fiesta Red 61’ is like cool breeze in the desert, just immaculate especially in the mid tones.

  • @57too
    @57too 8 років тому

    Another good show! I always look forward to Fridays!

  • @Marcin-Byterunners
    @Marcin-Byterunners 6 років тому +4

    To be honest, I much prefer Dan's Tele to the vintage one - so much punch in that thing.
    But when Mick first played the old strat... I mean, Dan's reaction is pretty spot on. Amazing.

  • @Glicksman1
    @Glicksman1 7 років тому +27

    Ah, the vintage vs. new debate. It will never be fully settled. Yeah, some of those old ones sound unbelievable. As someone said, they are the ones that survived, the ones that players kept, and that we still have. The crap was tossed long ago. Maybe that’s it. Yes, the pickup magnets change over time and the wood comes from older stock and has dried out, etc., etc., etc.
    However, think on this - Clapton’s tone on Bluesbreakers Beano is considered the Holy Grail or whatever for ‘Bursts. His guitar on that record was a 1960 LP. Burst recorded in April 1966. That was a six-year-old guitar. Hendrix played contemporary Strats in the late ’60s which he bought new, mostly at Manny’s (now sadly gone) in NYC. His tone? No more needs to be said. All of those great recordings of Beck’s ’54 Esquire when he was with the Yardbirds were recorded in 1965-66. His beat-up, butchered guitar was only 11 or 12 years old. The great, classic guitar sounds heard on recordings made in the ‘50s were virtually all made by relatively new guitars.
    All of that said, for the most part, the older guitars that we get to hear and play sound amazing. My older stuff sounds really good, no question. However, by far the best-sounding guitar I currently have (clean, dirty, etc.) is a new John Petrucci JP-13 with a solid rosewood neck.
    (Edit - I no longer have that guitar as my entire philosophy of getting a good tone has changed and evolved. I now set an amp on clean and manipulate the sound with pedals - compression, clean boost, OD, EQ, etc. Accordingly, I don't require a guitar with pickups that drive the amp into distortion as the Petrucci's do. I like low-power pickups with gobs of harmonic quality. My fave these days is an Epichone Casino with P-90 and a Gretsch Duo Jet with Dearmond Dynasonics.)
    Anyway, I didn’t make this (long) comment to try to settle this perennial discussion, just to make a few comments that may bear considering.

    • @oldgittarist
      @oldgittarist 5 років тому +3

      Absolutely true, a lot of the great sounds from 50s/60s/70s were on very 'young' instruments.

    • @javiceres
      @javiceres 4 роки тому +1

      Let alone the recording gear and techniques.
      They have a massive impact. Dare I say greater than the guitar itself.

    • @TheEchelon
      @TheEchelon 4 роки тому +1

      Maybe it's not about the guitars being old, but them being made in the 50's/60's.

    • @squirelova1815
      @squirelova1815 4 роки тому

      ​@@javiceres Yes, very overlooked fact, not to mention our younger brains were impressively imprinted in wondrous exuberance to be partial to whatever EQ or frequencies were emanating from that music. Andres Segovia called electric guitars "abominations" interestingly enough.

    • @squirelova1815
      @squirelova1815 4 роки тому

      Yes, very overlooked fact, not to mention our younger brains were impressively imprinted in wondrous exuberance to be partial to whatever EQ or frequencies were emanating from that music. Andres Segovia called electric guitars "abominations" interestingly enough.

  • @bigleemac
    @bigleemac 6 років тому

    Such a great vid and such genuine enthusiasm for guitars, brilliant stuff guys.

  • @jeff7807
    @jeff7807 7 років тому

    I love this video so much that I keep watching it from time to time

  • @MikeBradleyofficial
    @MikeBradleyofficial 8 років тому +54

    Now this, is a bloody good video!

  • @rentonharper673
    @rentonharper673 8 років тому +6

    This video just shows how personal guitars are to people. Mick sounded amazing on his own and the 61 red strat. And the 59 esquire sounded brilliant with Dan! I once was lucky enough to play two American vintage 59 strats. One was mediocre at best. And one was stunning!

  • @liam421
    @liam421 8 років тому

    Great video as usual guys. I really do look forward to 'em. This was just awesome it made my guitar week.

  • @greenbrightly
    @greenbrightly 8 років тому

    Lovely to watch, fantastic show guys.

  • @hearpalhere
    @hearpalhere 4 роки тому +4

    They all sounded great. I think a lot of the vintage vibe comes from the lower output pickups.

  • @wadenkrangguttenberg3750
    @wadenkrangguttenberg3750 8 років тому +211

    I dont care who disagrees that esquire is the sound of rock

    • @TheGigRigDaniel
      @TheGigRigDaniel  8 років тому +34

      Yep, just unreal :)

    • @AidanMillward
      @AidanMillward 8 років тому +6

      +Wadenkrang Guttenberg Sounds like a Les Paul Jr, but just shy of being fat enough

    • @AslanW
      @AslanW 8 років тому +9

      I agree, yet I kind of dislike tele-style guitars, but that E-chord being rung out over and over just had me speechless

    • @AllanAndersonMusic
      @AllanAndersonMusic 7 років тому +2

      100% agree

    • @marcushogan6613
      @marcushogan6613 7 років тому +2

      The Esquire was nuts and that 57 Strat might well be the best vintage guitar I've ever heard

  • @iPoundu4Fun
    @iPoundu4Fun 8 років тому

    REALLY can't say enough about how much I enjoy your videos. Looking forward to every Friday now even more so.

    • @Ingeborg323
      @Ingeborg323 Рік тому

      Hey guys, if I want a great Stratocaster then I buy a used ESP 400-Series Strat (or Tele) or a used BLADE Texas Standard Pro or Texas Classic! Because: Better woods, but original types of wood, better vibrating ability, and in the case of BLADE a flattened neck-body transition, which means better playability in the upper positions and a midboost like the Fender Eric Clapton Signature Stratocaster had and all for a small price ! I don't need "original Fenders"! But of course you have my permission to get you an inferior instrument at an exorbitant price, if you enjoy it! The really good fenders that are supposed to exist don't come to us in Germany/Europe, but in the USA they are already selected by the big companies/music shops/dealers, and that's why only those with bad, spongy wood, the rejects, and the less well-crafted ones come to us, so I'm not participating here!

  • @jromasterofone
    @jromasterofone 8 років тому

    You two ol' geezers are so much fun! And great players! I've learned a lot from you guys. Thanks!

  • @jackbenson8228
    @jackbenson8228 7 років тому +8

    that '61 fiesta red strat sounds incredible.

  • @The10000lbGorilla
    @The10000lbGorilla 8 років тому +8

    So much musical mojo in that room. I imagine the owner goes in there to write and finds books of sheet music on his chair left by the guitar fairies living in the closet.

  • @robbieredball
    @robbieredball 8 років тому +2

    There definitely something about the ageing process. My dad has an old EKO acoustic, not an expensive guitar but around 40 years old. Left in its case for the last 20, tried it again last year and it is amazing. Hard to explain, it is just so rich in harmonics now compared to before.

  • @TW0PLAYERGAMING
    @TW0PLAYERGAMING 8 років тому

    This video was awesome! its good to know other people get like this around such cool guitars!!

  • @TheDunateen77
    @TheDunateen77 7 років тому +149

    i would like to see these guys do a blindfold test using a classic vibe up through to mim,mia,custom shop and real vintage teles and see the outcome.

    • @DIRTBlKE
      @DIRTBlKE 7 років тому +4

      1 up

    • @jakemf1
      @jakemf1 6 років тому +1

      Yes this!!

    • @cupicupi911
      @cupicupi911 5 років тому +1

      yes

    • @ake166
      @ake166 5 років тому +6

      Nobody wants to failed on screen

    • @javiceres
      @javiceres 4 роки тому +3

      Except you can tell which one is finished in nitro. It would require that they all had the same finishing.

  • @thisdyingsoul76
    @thisdyingsoul76 7 років тому +41

    So when the owner of that Esquire opened the case again, did he get it back or did he get your red custom shop reissue? XD

    • @andrewcruz7595
      @andrewcruz7595 3 роки тому +3

      THIS IS A VERY OLD COMMENT BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD QUESTION HAH

  • @MacGillielaidir
    @MacGillielaidir 8 років тому

    Great channel. Loved the comparison of the guitars. First time I could really hear a realistic difference in a UA-cam video. 👏Loved the kilt in there too.

  • @jerrykosak
    @jerrykosak 6 років тому

    You guys look like you're having too much fun. And this is what it's all about. If it isn't fun, then it's probably too much work. Thanks for making me smile.

  • @superiormind2511
    @superiormind2511 7 років тому +10

    At 7:20 , Mick reveals the secret why vintage Fenders sound better. And it's because they are almost always lighter guitars. It is the wood.
    I've owned a 1964 Fender Strat since 1979, and I know it sounds the way it does because it's just a very lightweight Strat.
    The wood Fender was using back then came from trees with larger cells. Probably trees that grew faster than the trees of today. And that's why reissues don't ever sound like the real vintage guitars, because while everything has been replicated to the ninth degree, the wood hasn't grown the same way as the originals.
    I own a couple dozen guitars now, and the most vintage sounding ones are the one's that weigh the least. Under 7 pounds is the key. My 64 weighs 6.5 pounds.

    • @naujelbr
      @naujelbr 6 років тому +3

      I own a 69 Mustang, and while it is not anywhere near as pricey or collectible as these guitars, the sound is incredible compared to anything else I've played. It weighs nothing, maybe 5.5 pounds. It's made of Poplar, which is a part of why it's so light. Within the first few hours of playing it I was convinced the weight was what made it sound so resonant. I can feel the body ringing with almost every note, not just chords. The veneer fretboard is also very hard compared to the modern Strat I own. I believe this gives notes just a bit more intonation. Whenever given the choice, buy the lighter guitar, always. This is my number one factor in buying guitars moving forward. Much older, dryer wood was available back when these vintage guitars were made, and with the very thin lacquer it truly makes the difference. Those who don't believe in the resonance of these older guitars simply haven't played one.

    • @superiormind2511
      @superiormind2511 6 років тому +1

      I recently purchased a 2014 Indonesian Squier Strat, and it's one of my favorite guitars now. This particular alder body is very lightweight for a Strat, and the sound of this guitar is easily as good as Dan's '63 NOS Custom Shop Tele.
      It's in the wood, but the pickups are critical too. What time and use do to pickups is interesting.

    • @JoaoCarlos-dg2df
      @JoaoCarlos-dg2df 5 років тому +2

      lol

    • @R.G.B-tv
      @R.G.B-tv 5 років тому +2

      I own a 1978 Stratocaster which is heavier than any other guitar on the planet (true) and everybody says how amazing it sounds! ..it eats other guitars for breakfast haha

    • @sempercompellis
      @sempercompellis 5 років тому

      Any and all tonewood debates can be answered the same way as asking what happens when you put nylon strings on an electric guitar- think about your answer and why you arrived at that answer and you will realize fairly quickly you have been duped

  • @peterjessop1878
    @peterjessop1878 3 роки тому +3

    Anyone else here to remember when Dan fell in love with his 65 Tele?

  • @rockpebble100
    @rockpebble100 8 років тому

    The tone you get from that '64, Dan is immense! This has fast become my go to channel on youtube.

  • @josephsmith7866
    @josephsmith7866 5 років тому

    only started watching TPS a few months back...came from the Anderton's camp. This is your oldest video I've seen so far! Loads of videos on YT are enjoyable to me, but none really stick with me. Absolutely loved that guys. You guys enjoying it so much..it's what we all play for. they sound great and every time they surprised you I think we made the same noises.

  • @satch4u3
    @satch4u3 8 років тому +51

    Those vintage guitars sound great but I feel that most of it is in our heads. lol

    • @liligman
      @liligman 5 років тому +9

      Retro Joe I look at vintage guitars like vintage cars, the new ones can run the same or better obviously but the vintage have the character, charm, and the spirit rather than it just being a machine. Both get the job done no doubt

    • @millmoormichael6630
      @millmoormichael6630 5 років тому

      Enough for me..

    • @Glicksman1
      @Glicksman1 5 років тому +4

      Well, everything is in our heads. However, it's more than that, we can hear differences and mostly the older ones sound better but for reasons we may speculate upon but know not. Maybe it's , as Mr. Bowen wrote, we only hear the survivors after all the rubbish has been tossed.

    • @RichusRkr
      @RichusRkr 4 роки тому +2

      part of it is the feeling that you're holding history in your hands. it's also the age of the wood..

    • @InGrindWeCrust2010
      @InGrindWeCrust2010 3 роки тому

      Late '64 is CBS? I had a '66 and a refinished '68 Telecaster, and they were really cool. Sounded great and the old, dry wood and naturally worn finish felt great. I played with a guy with a "closet queen" lightly worn '64 Strat, same deal. And yes, I wish I'd kept them.
      They did not sound better than quality newer guitars, however. YMMV

  • @Lorneplumber
    @Lorneplumber 8 років тому +9

    I think this is destined to go down in history as the greatest guitar fetish video of all time
    Great job as alway

  • @travissexsmith5362
    @travissexsmith5362 8 років тому

    I love when you guys stare at each other when you're really digging in. I do that too. Love the show. Cheers.

  • @tboneshandy
    @tboneshandy 8 років тому

    I'm Tele and Strat obsessed -- and that sent me into overdrive (emotionally). Beautiful guitars!!! You guys rock.

  • @edphaze6550
    @edphaze6550 8 років тому +4

    Holy shit the 57 Strat sounds so so good. That's a special guitar fosho.

  • @javiceres
    @javiceres 8 років тому +4

    None of them, 7'25 radius and small frets are a PITA.
    Soundwise they are marvellous though, and a beauty to behold.

    • @RorysIrishTour
      @RorysIrishTour 7 років тому +3

      i love small frets

    • @johnsmith-sm6mh
      @johnsmith-sm6mh 7 років тому

      RorysIrishTour me too I also love Rory Gallagher 👍🏻

  • @natalieazer9450
    @natalieazer9450 7 років тому

    You guys are the best. I love this show. Keep it going pls.

  • @shreddy412
    @shreddy412 8 років тому

    Great video. Glad I stumbled on to this channel. Nice job fellas.

  • @luckyno888
    @luckyno888 8 років тому +44

    I ldig That Pedal Show ... Bon voyage Captain & Monkey Lord ... This is my new pedal / guitar channel ... More informative and mature ... definitely not so Monty Python meets Sponge Bob Square Pants like that other channel ...great channel

    • @user-pi2xl4jw3e
      @user-pi2xl4jw3e 8 років тому +1

      +luckyno888 And these guys dont hard-pan their guitar to one side, like those other two. :)

    • @capturedbyjupiter
      @capturedbyjupiter 8 років тому +3

      +luckyno888 Which is why lee basically absorbed them lol. They started a new channel and work with Andersons as well as continuing that pedal show. Lee is no dummy and each channel is easily accessible and great but can also clearly cater to different demographics. I love both. They are my tops above the other gear related channels, some of which are great in their own right.

    • @BigEdWo
      @BigEdWo 8 років тому +2

      +luckyno888 the main difference is, those guys really can play. sponge bob isn't bad but nothing compared to these guys. by nothing i mean nothing.

    • @AidanMillward
      @AidanMillward 8 років тому +9

      +BigEdWo I like Lee's demos, but Chapman has to saturate the shit out of everything so everything just sounds the same while having to be held at gunpoint to play a clean sound.

    • @BigEdWo
      @BigEdWo 8 років тому +2

      ***** i think lee is getting better and better. he's starting to sound pretty nice actually. chapman is a good player too. he's fast and his notes sound clear and fine. but, as you say, everything sounds the same. and i believe lee's progress might be a problem for chapman. he likes to pretend to be the super star which gets harder and harder now. but the main difference to the pedal guys is, they got rhythm, they groove. i was on the wrong path too. you need to have rhythm, that is what counts.

  • @spotteddogmemphis
    @spotteddogmemphis 3 роки тому +4

    I’ve learned that the Fender Custom Shop just rips off collectors with their pricing. How can you charge $5-6K for a custom shop guitar when it’s not that close to an actual vintage. Fender needs to put more time into working on tone from the pickups instead of worrying about superficial shit like relicing. At least they are closer to their vintage pickups compared to Gibson. Gibson totally misses the mark with their custom buckers (worst name for a pickup too) and they charge even more out of their custom shop. Gibson had a whole superficial division, the Murphy Lab.

    • @apo11o38
      @apo11o38 2 роки тому

      For 6k you can find the real deal too. If you can't afford that just order some Rumplestiltskin pickups and any normal strat sounds closer than the high priced "reissues"

  • @oldgittarist
    @oldgittarist 5 років тому

    Make you want to cry! Amazing character from the oldies. A well known British sound engineer/producer said that modern pickups are too bright.

  • @davidchase-lopes8413
    @davidchase-lopes8413 8 років тому

    Thank you - what a great way to start my Xmas break . Happy Holidays

  • @mistersooty
    @mistersooty 3 роки тому +3

    Like always with these kinds of tests, I feel there'a a lot of 'confirmation bias' here. Understandable, I'd wet myself too if I got to play a pre CBS Fender. But try blindfolded and then tell us which is which. There was quite a noticeable difference between the first 2 Teles. But honestly I preferred the sound of the vintage reissue. But because it's not the genuine vintage one, the 'bigger' tone is declared 'too in your face'. If it was the other way around we'd be gushing about that bigger tone and how much more present it sounds.
    Here's some reference points to hear the 2 tele neck pickups:
    4:55 7:10 7:27 10:20.
    The Strat's sounded practically identical to me, apart from the 57, which kind of sounded slightly mellower - interestingly because maple necked guitars are a bit brighter sounding generally. Kind of like the tone was rolled back slightly. Possibly due to different magnets, older, weaker magnets, or higher cap values. But again, have a listen to these time stamps - can you really hear a significant difference between the rosewood ones? Apart from the Ash one being a little brighter? Would you notice it on a recording or at a live gig?
    12:26 13:14 15:13 17:55
    I'm not saying there's 'no' difference - but I am saying the jaw dropping and the gushing and exclamations of the 'amazing' difference is greatly exaggerated. I love vintage. I love the history and the broken in feel and the woody tone. But sometimes it's just 'better' because we decide it's better. Maybe it's more obvious in person than on my computer monitors.
    I mean they sound fantastic, they really do. But I think those vintage reissues sound just as good. Click between 12:26 and 13:14. Is it really an 'amazing' difference? ('that's rediculous' the comment was).
    Don't get me wrong I enjoyed the video - really interesting to compare and I'm jealous of these guys getting to play these lovely guitars!

  • @1971SuperLead
    @1971SuperLead 8 років тому +31

    Try putting some weaker pickups in your new guitars. They might just suddenly sound like the vintage guitars.

    • @TheGigRigDaniel
      @TheGigRigDaniel  8 років тому +23

      I've done this SO many times. The pickups, although a huge element, are only part of the picture. My tele for example has very weak original spec pickups. And it sounds great, I love it, but there's no denying that these old guitars really connected with me, they're very special guitars

    • @mr.p3ncil157
      @mr.p3ncil157 2 роки тому

      @@TheGigRigDaniel You need to try Tonerider TRT1 pickups

  • @rammusic4387
    @rammusic4387 6 років тому +1

    "can you meet me again" classic moment, well done!!!

  • @lgrankin
    @lgrankin 8 років тому

    I really enjoyed this video. That's saying something as I'm a bass player :-) I think all of the guitar tones were very good. What I heard was more energy and inspiration when you were playing the vintage guitars. It's amazing how different instruments can bring out different things in our playing. Well done and keep up the great work!

  • @TheMrZanshin
    @TheMrZanshin 8 років тому +7

    I wonder if the more "mellow" quality to the sound of the vintage guitars is due to the age of the magnets in the pickups?

    •  4 роки тому +1

      I think both definitely!

    • @AndreaAustoni
      @AndreaAustoni 3 роки тому

      @ Apparently magnets do get weaker but over really long periods of time, much more than a few decades. Magnets made today are stronger than back in the day and that is why old guitars sound different, not their age.

  • @noelzhu1986
    @noelzhu1986 8 років тому +3

    somehow love the 63' nos tele most...

  • @williamrustrum
    @williamrustrum 8 років тому

    You two are goobs, and I love it. Keep bringing it! :)

  • @tonedesign
    @tonedesign 5 років тому

    Amazing tone guys 🤘

  • @GearBoxTy
    @GearBoxTy 8 років тому +6

    It was stated early in the video that the red Custom Shop Tele took a while to become the amazing guitar it is. Let's be honest, all the "Relic", "NOS", "Road Worn", whatever guitars are still NEW guitars. No matter what "aging" process they put them through during manufacturing, they are still new instruments. Old guitars are inherently different simply because of age. The truth I have come to realize is that guitars get better (more comfortable) with age. Whether there is "magic" in vintage instruments or not is another debate. A fact in my life is that the late 1980s Fender American Standard Stratocaster I bought new in 1987 or 1988 is today the best playing, most comfortable, most reliable guitar I own. It just happened that way and I don't think I would have said those things about that guitar when I got it.

    • @MrSammy1776
      @MrSammy1776 8 років тому +4

      +Ty Barnes Its funny you said that,I have played just about every guitar in my 40 years.And the best guitar for sound and feel is my 89 tele.On paper it should be crap,its covered in think POLY and is more resonant than any nitro tele i own.Personally, i dont buy into the shit in this video.These guys are gear geeks,like the 80's on steroids,i could put anything in their hands say it was from 1960's and they would love it.

    • @jameshughes6156
      @jameshughes6156 6 років тому

      Ty Barnes I’m a bit late here u have an 88 too brought brand new in 89. Torino red. Great guitar btw looks new with the polyester paint. I used it for awhile but I needed hbs in
      my life.

    • @pharaohsneferu5516
      @pharaohsneferu5516 5 років тому +2

      All the old records were recorded on guitars like the custom shop ones.. same spec, and they were still almost new 50 years or so ago. I mean no one was recording on 50 + year old guitars back in the 50's and 60's LOL

    • @paulmyfinger
      @paulmyfinger 5 років тому

      I have an Ibanez JS1 from 1992 and it has never felt or sounded better

  • @Billywagner22
    @Billywagner22 7 років тому +3

    They all sound amazing but that Esquire is ridiculous!

  • @andrewtrecha2
    @andrewtrecha2 8 років тому

    I love you guys. Great episode. Thanks!

  • @richardgalpin594
    @richardgalpin594 8 років тому

    The 59 Esquire is simply astonishing. Great video as always.

  • @SteveR5954
    @SteveR5954 8 років тому +3

    Well... its pretty clear what you guys should do. Sell, sell, sell... and then buy your own old Fender :-)

  • @jcsk8
    @jcsk8 7 років тому +5

    The sound of those guitars on my headphones is sounding better than most of the recorded guitars on my favourite albums. Why they just produce those sounds so much? That raw sound would be amazing.

  • @mrGood-84
    @mrGood-84 7 років тому

    What a fantastic video! :) Thanks guys!

  • @raceface_m2579
    @raceface_m2579 5 років тому +1

    My goodness those strats!!! Made your blue strat sound dull haha. Great, great, great sound!

  • @mattgilbert7347
    @mattgilbert7347 6 років тому +34

    The day someone offers me a chance to "come and see" a 57 Strat is the day I become a criminal.

  • @Phoebedumplings
    @Phoebedumplings 6 років тому +3

    Teles are such underrated guitars

  • @OsmarOliveira
    @OsmarOliveira 8 років тому

    Ooooh man!!! That was a pleasant 31min video to watch... Loved it! Thanks for sharing. As a bass player, I was hardly into vintage basses until I've got my 1974 Rickenbacker 4001. There is just something you can't explain about old instruments.

  • @alejandrogabasabarcoj8658
    @alejandrogabasabarcoj8658 4 роки тому

    Really happy cause every single guitar sound incredible and different between each other. The 61' ash body with rosewood fingerboard impressed me a lot! And your fender avri 62 is a really good guitar too, maybe the brightest guitar in this comparative.
    Thank you for this incredible stuff what help us to decide buying one guitar or other one.

  • @GK-mm3nz
    @GK-mm3nz 8 років тому +8

    Umm....OK!
    Had to crack another, but wont say no.

  • @makmcqueen8634
    @makmcqueen8634 8 років тому +18

    those old pickups are slightly microphonic which is why they sound so good. Had a few 50's juniors that proved it all the killer ones had the body tone coming through from the microphonic pickups

    • @capturedbyjupiter
      @capturedbyjupiter 8 років тому

      +Mak McQueen they mentioned it

    • @mybluemars
      @mybluemars 8 років тому +1

      +Mak McQueen Then where can I get me some slightly microphonic pickups?

    • @makmcqueen8634
      @makmcqueen8634 8 років тому

      Try a vintage les paul junior or tele you will find them. ;)

    • @AbeldeBetancourt
      @AbeldeBetancourt 8 років тому +1

      +Matt “Marshall” Bruce they are quite bad for live stuff. You just want to try and discharge a little bit your pickups' magnet for more warm / not harsh tone.

    • @makmcqueen8634
      @makmcqueen8634 8 років тому +1

      +Mario V Very very true, my vintage guitars are useless live, even a 50 watt Marshall proves too much.

  • @sduke39
    @sduke39 8 років тому

    THAT was a LOT of fun!!! Thanks guys!!

  • @yanblais8346
    @yanblais8346 8 років тому

    waaaaaah!!! :P Damn I discovered your channel a few days ago and love it soooo much, even more when listening to that kind of video!! Loved those lovely things you played and learned so much about pedals from you guys, i even posted your channel on my facebook because it's sooo good eheh don't stop the good work!

  • @MDC249
    @MDC249 7 років тому +10

    these guys make me want to spend money

  • @tomfishman
    @tomfishman 6 років тому +4

    Just here watching this for the 30th time.

    • @njuham
      @njuham 6 років тому +1

      Only my 4th...

  • @desmo999
    @desmo999 5 років тому

    Great comparison, faaantastic played and sooo many wonderfull Guitars!!!

  • @torfarstad119
    @torfarstad119 5 років тому

    Fantastic video, guys!!!

  • @lance134679
    @lance134679 8 років тому +15

    Maybe it's best not to even play any nice vintage guitars unless you can afford them.

    • @TheGigRigDaniel
      @TheGigRigDaniel  8 років тому +8

      +Lawrence Gillespie I think you're right Lawrence

  • @moonkef
    @moonkef 7 років тому +3

    Then we have Johan Segeborn comparing a 70's strat to a brand new squire and they sounded very very close.

  • @johnmarquez333
    @johnmarquez333 8 років тому

    At first I was disappointed to see that you wouldn't be talking about pedals, but ... OH MY, those guitars sounded spectacular, especially the 57 Strat and the 59 Esquire. Great video!

  • @BavarianBear
    @BavarianBear 5 років тому +1

    10:34 it doesn't get ANY better than this tone wise for me.. LOVE IT

  • @oozelumbird
    @oozelumbird 8 років тому +4

    If I had a time machine... I'd go back and see what the vintage instruments sounded like when new... would they have been as good 'off the shelf'? Or has time made them better? (Woulds drying more, pickups ageing and mellowing...). I used to work in a guitar shop, so got to try a fair bit of used and vintage bits that came in. Some old early 60's strats, which were frankly awful, some utterly fantastic 60's Gibson 330's that stick in the memory....

  • @BenCaffrey
    @BenCaffrey 8 років тому +52

    Yes yes very nice. But how do they sound through a Gorrila 10 watt with a DS-1???

    • @BenCaffrey
      @BenCaffrey 8 років тому +1

      Ah well that's ok, vintage gear can be problematic, I have an old Zoom2020 if you want? Just go direct........

    • @TheGigRigDaniel
      @TheGigRigDaniel  8 років тому +6

      +Ben Caffrey Mick says: Shiver.

    • @BenCaffrey
      @BenCaffrey 8 років тому

      Daniel TheGigRig tell Mick I remember some of those early Guitarist mag demos..... We all remember......

    • @TheGigRigDaniel
      @TheGigRigDaniel  8 років тому +3

      +Ben Caffrey Mick says: Blimey, so do I! We were so earnest in those days, all serious and whatnot. Still, all my licks are the same so some things never change!

    • @TheLankyJake
      @TheLankyJake 8 років тому

      +Ben Caffrey Best comment ever!

  • @ifenceltd5395
    @ifenceltd5395 8 років тому

    Cracking show boys!

  • @seanconnorguitar5972
    @seanconnorguitar5972 6 років тому

    Watching you two absolutely loose your minds at Gear is a pleasure to watch. It reminds me of a time I picked up a Taylor acoustic at guitar guitar and had to walk away from it. The smile that stuff brings to a guitarists face is like nothing else on earth. 👍