Destroying Christianity from within. The most sinister way. As a Christian some basic truths must be shared. I mean there will be doctrinal differences always, but I mean nuts and bolts don't change.
I have only been a Christian for about 5 years but have yet to find a church with people hungry to know God each one I have gone to they just sit thought the service nod say a prayer then when it's over just want to talk about there gardens or whatever you try to talk more about bible and they just change the subject hope to find passionate zealous God fearing people one day to help guide me
He tried to ask that “Why are you against it?” He seems to agree its murder. Essentially he’s saying the weight of sin is so heavy that we should encourage sin to spare guilt. That is literally the opposite of grace. It’s damning people and telling them to suppress the truth. what benefit is it to a man if he gains the world and loses his soul? Gods grace is sufficient and if you believe that your soul should find rest in him.
Eventually yes, and he also said that he agreed that we should save born child from parents that want to get rid of him for any reason but unborn child we should let the women choose if she wants to kill her baby. He was pretty confuse but i think still the Christian didn't do a very good job if i put the standard bar high. I think Trent Horn mastered the art of abortion debate.
I seriously got the chills listening to the man in the background on the loud speaker pleading with parents to have mercy on their children. The children's lives hang in the balance. How terrifying, and how beautiful that you are out there. Thank you for what you're doing.
I cant believe that a "christian" is arguing with you. It is amazing. Abortion is murder. I was raped and I kept my child and my child is most amazing and I loved her from before she was bor to this day. She loooks a lot lke her father but that has no affect on how I treaat her. I forgave her father when my child was 2 1/2 years old. That helped me to love my chid even more.
the guy in the hat is the #1 reason why Christians are not taken seriously. So inconsistent. And then the world judges Christianity based on those guys and we gotta work almost triple to fix their shenanigans.
Seems the Bible has a diagnosis, and a cure here: "You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God."James 4:4 ESV We need to humble ourselves, and be on God's side, rather than exalting ourselves, and claiming that God's on our side. The "seeker friendly" churches are engaged in friendship with the world. Not a good thing.
REally? HOw about the rest of them? They are for slaughtering Muslims overseas. They defend genocide and oppression in Israel against the Palestinians. Don't worry , mainstream Christianity has already destroyed credibility.
@@MaverickColtman I can’t delete my comment lol I wrote a few paragraphs saying the exact same thing. Really wish I had the brevity you guys do because people often dismiss me when they see how many words I typed 😂
Haha, and the other one « I belive everything that God said, then reading what someone has wrote» are u a Christian? U also belive everything he said, then carries a book? 😂😂
what this man needs to understand about the "emotional state" of the woman, is that after she kills her baby it is far worse than he is claiming they feel by hearing the truth. The pain from that decision causes many to become self destructive and often suicidal.
Yes, I became suicidal after I killed my lbaby girl. If Jesus hadn't stepped in to save me I would be dead now. Praise the Lord! I got born again and rejoice that one day I will see my little girl again!
That’s where I am now.. it’s haunting. Especially when you knew the right thing to do before hand. Not at the time but definitely grew up in a family that valued life. The guilt never leaves. It’s been about 2 years now..
So, he's a Christian who's "opinion comes from a much deeper place than a book"? Sorry dude, you're not a Christian. You're actually a moral relativist with a secular humanist worldview.
Ageed. My main problem with this gentleman is that he is essentially claiming spiritual knowledge that goes beyond what God has revealed in the Bible. I do believe the Holy Spirit works and speaks to people but He won't give you advice or special knowledge that contradicts the Bible.
Modernism destroys Traditional Catholic Faith. Read Saint Augustine, Saint Thomas, the catechism of Trent, the message of Our Lady of Good Success, of La Fayette, of Fatima, of Akita!
This is why God says in His word “trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.” Pray for this guy, he’s leaning too much on his own understanding. Many contradictions here from him. Keep witnessing you guys!
Lucky Marie The bible says to them that do not understand these words are foolishness!!!! And what he is saying is those who have not accepted Christ as your lord and savior and the Holy Spirit has come to reside with them they'll never understand
This poor man is completely lost. It's sad that he's claiming Christianity, But yet he's refuting The Word of God. Pray for that man along with all the women who feel abortion is a way out. Pray for all the unborn children who are wonderfully made in the image of GOD.
This is why I had such trouble when I moved finding such a good church. People would give me a "word of knowledge" or "message from God" in prayer meetings and it would directly contradict the word of God and di would outright deny it and demonstrate how it did not line up. To the point where I was asked not to attend prayer meetings when the pastor said they are excersizing thie gifts of hearing God, which is not a gift of the spirit. I told him if he is giving license to his entrusted flock to tell people messages counter to the word of God then he has spit in Christ face and is dishonored God. That basic formula has happened to either me or my wife as we stood for th word of God in 5 or 6 churches now since our move. It's very disheartening that church after church preaches and shares these fake "words from God" and are tolerant of the devils lies.
Years ago many devout Christians owned slaves. Were they really Christians? I mean, the Bible had men of God owning slaves and God seemed to be on their side. Would you call a Christian with slaves today a true Christian? I doubt it. But "God's People" owned them. Hmmmmm Note: please don't consider a deeply mistaken individual rejected by God.
@@swampratzozzle 1. You don’t know if they were devout 2.in the Bible it was indentured servitude, based on understanding 3.they would rip pages out of the Bible and not allow slaves to read 4. Look at how the Bible teaches to care of your indentured servants 5. The Bible states be not conformed to this world, so just because something was socially acceptable doesn’t mean it’s now a pass. 6. Just because someone says they’re a Christian doesn’t mean they are, test the spirit by the spirit, ,you will know them by their fruits. As we know that only few will enter by the straight and narrow path, and many will perish, as the road to destruction is broad and easy to follow and many will enter, as stated in the word. So for all repent, trust, and believe in Jesus and be saved. Much love and God bless.
@@Juduh people owned slaves in the bible and claimed it was okay with God. It was not There is no way around that. King David and Solomon had hundreds of sex slaves called concubines and yet you revere their words. Please stop worshipping the bible as coming from God to determine what’s acceptable.
"They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us." 1 John 2:19 ESV
The Lord is disgusted by these types (Revelation 3:16), and rightly so. Atheists and Satanists deserve accolades for being the way they are instead of being like these sorry creeps.
What is really sad is that they take the opinions of a book that they mistakenly call "God's Word" and justify it and contradict Jesus, who claimed to be the only authority on the true nature of God. What is particularly hilarious/sad/horrific, is that even the Bible doesn't claim to be the ultimate authority - it says JESUS is the Word of God.
Bigtombowski I will do my best. As of now there is not a single iota of concrete evidence that he exists. All evidence for his existence is just moral, sometimes it’s disguised as scientific, but there’s nothing solid actually backing it up, no real scientific findings. He was made up at a time when science was very limited and we knew little to nothing of our existence. To give ourselves value and put our mind at ease we decided to attribute everything to a God. And so that we don’t have to be afraid of death, we made up an afterlife. I’m personally not one to believe in things that there is no proof to support actually exists, especially with how advanced science is today. Religion was really created to make people feel more comfortable and ordered, with religion they could have moral value, dignity, societal do’s and don’ts, they didn’t have to be afraid of death and etc. I think it’s time we stop living in the past and living our life by a book written thousands of years ago.
@@jesussaves6625 Well, there are declarations by some writers in the Bible about what God is like, that he rains fire from heaven and kills people that don't listen to him. Some also say that God told them to commit genocide and have no mercy even on children and pregnant women, because they are enemies of Israel. Along comes Jesus and when his disciples want this to happen to unbelievers he rebukes them and says "you don't know what spirit you are of" and "the thief comes to kill . . . but I have come to bring you life". He also says "I say to you love your enemies, do good to those who do all manner of evil against you, bless those who curse you, so you will be like your Father in heaven, who is kind and merciful to the ungrateful and the wicked. He blesses with rain both the just and the unjust". So, anyone who quotes these verses that say opposite of what Jesus says are using the bible to contradict Jesus. These are just a few examples...
I'm amazed by these modern Christians that claim to be Christians but say the Bible isn't 100% reliable.So contradicting. "I care about what I can see and connect with" well you'll be able to connect and see the baby if you let it live
And one day, he will stand before God Almighty and see him. But for eternity will not be able to connect with God unless while he's alive he repents and agrees with God.
I agree.. Those guys were doing great.. I'm so against abortion unless the mom is in a condition where she could die being pregnant.. God would understand if it had to do with saving the woman's life.. But other than that it is definitely 100% a sin to have an abortion.. I believe there should be a law where your not aloud to have an abortion unless it saves your life..
He said he was a Christian multiple times then at the very end 22:00 in he says "my opinion comes from a much deeper place then a book (referring to the Bible)"..
@@karibgold5394 Sooo, if you are relying on the Bible, why don't you agree with it when it says wicked women deserve to have their pregnant bellies ripped open?
@@swampratzozzle You don't really care to know the truth or you wouldn't ask that question...you simply want to accuse God, and that's your terrible problem. When people choose to rebel against God, they are fair game (by their own choice of not wanting God and His protection, to be destroyed by enemies. Of course you don't care to know the truth, or you would know by reading the chapter, what that verse pertains to, instead of accusing God whom you don't know, and accuse Him while knowing nothing about Him or His Word.
Our red shirted friend shows he”s we’ll learned his public school mantra that “”there is NO such thing as absolute truth!”. Soooo sad that considers himself a Christian! Maranatha!
@@chrisb9280 1 John 1:12-13 - Nobody is born (natural birth) a Christian, according to the Bible. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power *to become the sons of God,* even to them that *believe* on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Exactly! This video is now a few years old, but now so many people have this same deceived view. It's being taught by pastors, Christians and podcast influencers. All of these are teachers that face a harsher judgement according to God's Word. I love how the evangelist told him to repent from his sins and turn to Jesus. Amen!
He isn't Christian he is Liberal And "Facts dont care about your Feelings" He says he believe in God and his word but not all. This guy is very unstable and needs to repent. Keep doing work for God Apologia?? Amen Amen
Brother, how can you equate a whole group of people and call them "evil" if you don't know their heart. This is why your country is so divided and there is just rampant hatred being perpetuated by Christians when they say that. Please hear me out. I am a "liberal" woman who is a Christian and I absolutely condemn abortion and do not support it whatsoever. But I am "liberal" because I think we need to do something about climate change NOW before more lives are lost due to the floods, fires, tornadoes etc that are our own fault. And I believe in universal healthcare. As a Canadian I see how amazing it is for people to not pay a cent to go to a hospital and not go into debt because of a broken home or have to mortgage their house and go into poverty over a kidney stone. I do not support abortion and I am watching these videos so I can learn how to tell others about how important it is that we put an end to it. But I am "liberal" for many other reasons that are important to God. So please don't put everyone into a box and label them with hate because you don't know a person's heart based on their political party. Please think about it brother. God bless you
I don't "feel."...that's not my "opinion," not my "perception"....that's where your folly is sir. Good job refuting this guy in a patient and yet strong manner.
I understand him because as a younger man I used to be a lot like him we should all pray for that man that he open up the Bible and read the true word of God and he can make it to see his true face in Jesus name amen
Maybe because ppl say they belive in everyword god said, then open a book what ppl have wrote. And everyone are so away in there head, that they think what ppl wrote are what God said. U are one of Them my friend, are u?
@@tuchesuavae no its not. Only if you make your own little story to fit your bible. U are so wrong. Its not importent to be consistent in matthers like this, sometimes it comes up something thats need to be done. And u have to change for that situasion only. Ppl have to have a clear line. U no its not a human when its 5 days old. If u raped hold prisoner for 5 month, u should still have the right to choose what the woman want to do. Its so nasty to have good people say and scream things like the other idiot did... religion just fuck off.. and Stay out of normal ppl bissness.. so sad, u dont know how u fuck up other ppl lives... dont Even answer
@@MaximillianLukas what are you talking about? And yes it's possible. Don't contradict yourself or lie and you will be consistent, it's that easy. Even the guy with the short hair made his points while staying consistent.
@@tuchesuavae yes. And have to answer Stupid questions to prove it for this Stupid dude, that call himself man of god.. what are u, the same or? Like its so fkn importent for the con. That u dont contradict yourself.. like u win, Even if the other guy can think.. If u live for 2000 years and did whatever, its easy to beat a slave so it dont die.. or is it, sins they have a role for that to.. why is that? Who need that quate? And wtf, u think that came from god... little fkn god
So, “bringing up emotions” is a sin. Interesting. Sadly, this guy is right in line with that bill in California that promises to make it a violation of consumer law to try to counsel people in accordance with God’s Word. Awesome dialogue (and great production values as well ....audio was perfect)
@@lesblase3667 I just made it a point. You interpreted my comment as a disagreement with OP, when I was instead expounding on what he said. That's on you.
@Covid-19 has never been isolated nor examined please show me where the Dead Sea Scrolls posit a "White Jesus " or any Jesus, for that matter? Do you even know what the Dead Sea Scrolls are?
How incredible to do this!!! As a child i had deformaties and was butchered through my childhood with unnecessary treatments and have been quite ill all my life but i found god through all of this and am so gratefull to have found gods love for me.....every child is precious even the unwanted and damaged ones and murder is murder.....
Zach, God bless you my brother for speaking truth in boldness. I love what your church is doing. It's inspirational. God's clearly using you as his hand extended for the lost and I pray I can have a similar impact on his creation. Blessings, Dave.
Charles Hughes he didn't say anything wrong... dig in some more brother.... would not be wrong to pray for the lost and he was lost.. lost like a fart in a tornado..
*WARN THEM!* Ezekiel 33:8-9 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
The idea of 'Christ the love hippie' that said nothing confrontational in regards to sin is the biggest lie in all the world. Christ spoke of hell more than anyone in the Bible with half of his talks involving "repentance" and the "horribleness of our sins." Love is how one expresses these truths.
No, Christ did NOT speak of hell more than anyone He spoke of The valley of Hinnom, the grave, and the garbage dump outside Jerusalem. Way later people translated those words "hell" and assigned pagan meaning to them. You also buy into "repentance" as a proper translation for a word that means a "massive and complete change of mind". Jesus did not condemn sinners, he loved them and showed solidarity to the ones outcast by the righteous people of his day - by righteous I mean those who followed the law to a T. His reason? "The sick need a physician". He came to HEAL sinners, NEVER to punish them. Take the woman caught in adultery. He should have insisted she be stoned. I mean God said to, right???? WRONG. He let the people who hung him on the cross off the hook. Seriously, what could possibly be more sinful than killing God's Son?????? If he did that, he ain't punishin' no one. Sin is its own punishment. He came to heal sin. Sin is far far far FAR worse than behaving badly. It is a cancer that destroys the soul. It is a blindness about who God really is. This causes us to run from fellowship with God. Jesus said eternal life is "intimately experiencing in fellowship the Father and the one he has sent". Death is the opposite.
This is sad and tragic all at the same time 😓 God help that dude. Thanks for standing in and speaking the truth in love guys. You're a blessing indeed.
Judgement needs to start in the house of God according to Peter. The world is the way it is because of wishy washy, worldly, emotion-guided christians. Salt that has lost its flavor is good for nothing.
manta I'm glad to hear your testimony. God has rescued us all from error. Even Pastor Jeff has confessed how deep in error he was before God kindly saved him. God is incredibly patient. Ask Adam, Cain, Noah (120 years preaching), Moses, Jonah and the disciples who knew Jesus gave Israel 40 years to repent before the Destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple. I wish I was that patient LOL
his biggest issue is the issue of authority, when its all said and done... he's guided by opinion and emotion, not Scripture. This is modern evangelicalism
Alfredo Bullen it really is becoming the hardest fight. Damn Satan & all his work to deceive the masses. May he & he alone get the worst torment found in all of hell!
ARe you guided by Scripture? Do you still think slavery is ok? How about polygamy, or building a Temple for God with slave labour? HOw about wiping out whole nations of unbelievers, children included? Do you wear cotton/ply clothing? Do you touch your wife when she is on her period? Do you clean everything she sat on after her period is done? Are you willing to stone rebellious teenagers to death? I hate to tell you this but JESUS is the authority when looking at Scripture. My goodness, HE contradicted it over and over. Jesus is the standard. Love is the standard. Abortion is horrific and kills millions of innocent babies. So does nationalism, foreign wars that are none of America's business, capitalism and shunning the homeless. I could go on..... So while I strongly oppose abortion and the harm it does BOTH to mother and baby, I think we shouldn't use the modern Bible as the reason.
Jessica Byard than he not a Christian what u mean he don’t know his heart? The moment u say a gay person can go to Heaven that’s enough fruit to know they ain’t really recieve Jesus. Jesus says u will know them by there fruit and he obviously isn’t.
ur judging. If he accepted Christ died for his sins and he repents and lives a kind gentle life but was accused of helping so many at judgement. You might be surprised on how you make money that you are breaking Gods law or bending your taxes. You might be doing things youre not repenting for. Dont be so sure to call someone not Christian when you might be in trouble too.
man i dont know this one is tough. on one hand he doesn't care about murder and on the other he proclaims repentance and faith which saves. might not be true repentance. Jesus, Jesus did we not proclaim in your name did we not cast out demons in your name and Jesus says depart from me you worker of lawlessness.
It's an especially wicked deception to have one believe he is Christian with no distinction between him and willful sinners. The same holds for the once saved always saved group. You mean after I accept Jesus and repent get baptised I'm saved. After I can kill, rape, murder, anything I want because I'm still saved? Professing Christians actually believe this nonsense. The evil one is cunning.
Brother with the red hat is allowing emotion to deceive him. Emotions blur our vision not only of truth, but as a consequence, of reality. Prayers for him.
This guy believes in God i believe but isn't a Christian nor is he born again from what he is saying.. good dialogue though, being lukewarm is a dangerous place to be according to Jesus
@@hensonjames1664 The first Unmoved Mover who Created the Universe out of Nothing and revealed Himself to us through his creation. This Creater is Spaceless,timeless and immaterial and thus that is the God that we refer to
German Arias Prove there was a mover. Prove it is unmoved. Prove there was any sort of creation by a being. Then prove this claimed mover is responsible for it. Great claims but you need to demonstrate them. Thanks.
@@hensonjames1664 Sure thing Henson. Check out the Cosmological Argument on my website, if you scroll down the linked page, it is a Word document. It proves that the universe must have had an Uncaused First Cause, and transcend the universe, etc. calebpeppiatt.wix.com/seekandyouwillfind Thanks!
@@calebp6114 I reject premise 1. Beginning to exist is an oxymoron. We can only say things began to exist when they aren't fundamental, such as a car being assembled from parts. The car is defined into existence. It isn't a something fundamentally beginning to exist. In premise 2 universe needs to be defined. The way modern physicists use the word, it only refers to the things which are detectable. There is no scientific consensus that the big bang is the beginning of everything. The consensus is just that all the matter we see around us was at some point in the distant past very close together. If you want to pass literally everything off as being created by god, the big bang doesn't help get you there because it relies on a different definition of universe. And if you take 'universe' to mean literally everything, I appeal back to my response for the first premise. As for Ghazali's argument, I reject premise 1. As for counting up to infinity, we have a symbol for that. Its called a summation. It looks like an M twisted 90 degrees counterclockwise. The summation of 1+2+3+4... = infinity. As for the guy counting down from an infinite past, you are assuming the prior day or the day after are all the same size of infinity as the infinity of today which is the one he counted. I am aware through linear bijection we can establish that those infinite sets all have the same cardinality. But cardinality isn't the same thing as size. And if something is immaterial, spaceless, and timeless, you then have a dualistic (or polyistic) metaphysics in which there is no mechanism for the two (or many) realms to interact.
This guy is a perfect picture of The modern day Christian movement.
lewisbeeman so true!!! He calls himself a Christian and yet doesn’t have a true biblical worldview.
lewisbeeman yes a hypothetical person I think 🤔 he’s always right
Destroying Christianity from within. The most sinister way. As a Christian some basic truths must be shared. I mean there will be doctrinal differences always, but I mean nuts and bolts don't change.
I have only been a Christian for about 5 years but have yet to find a church with people hungry to know God each one I have gone to they just sit thought the service nod say a prayer then when it's over just want to talk about there gardens or whatever you try to talk more about bible and they just change the subject hope to find passionate zealous God fearing people one day to help guide me
So lukewarm?
“I don’t support abortion in any way shape or form” all while he’s standing there supporting abortion
Exactly what i thought the moment he said that. The next question to him should have been why you don't support abortion.
He tried to ask that “Why are you against it?” He seems to agree its murder. Essentially he’s saying the weight of sin is so heavy that we should encourage sin to spare guilt. That is literally the opposite of grace. It’s damning people and telling them to suppress the truth.
what benefit is it to a man if he gains the world and loses his soul?
Gods grace is sufficient and if you believe that your soul should find rest in him.
Eventually yes, and he also said that he agreed that we should save born child from parents that want to get rid of him for any reason but unborn child we should let the women choose if she wants to kill her baby. He was pretty confuse but i think still the Christian didn't do a very good job if i put the standard bar high.
I think Trent Horn mastered the art of abortion debate.
jeffmurnahan amen
Lol yup
Zach has demonstrated a level of patience every Christian needs to have
I seriously got the chills listening to the man in the background on the loud speaker pleading with parents to have mercy on their children. The children's lives hang in the balance. How terrifying, and how beautiful that you are out there. Thank you for what you're doing.
“I do not agree with abortion but...”
But means, forget everything I just said, here’s what I really think.
Exactly
Mental gymnastic world we live in
everything before but is BS. ~Jim Quinn
I cant believe that a "christian" is arguing with you. It is amazing. Abortion is murder. I was raped and I kept my child and my child is most amazing and I loved her from before she was bor to this day. She loooks a lot lke her father but that has no affect on how I treaat her. I forgave her father when my child was 2 1/2 years old. That helped me to love my chid even more.
God bless you x
thats great to hear. God bless you sister.
You're a wonderful Mummy 👍
God bless you and your child❤
GOD BLESS YOU!!!! 💗💗💗💗💗🙏🙏🙏🙏 Nothing makes me more happy than to hear good news such as this :) Keep the faith and commandments sister! :)
This is an example of a person (self-professing Christian) trusting in their own feelings and intellect over the word of God.
And loving the ways of the world
Amen
Perfectly put.
Any true believer could never think this way.
@@KJBTruth1611 not really loving
@@tonyr.3435 sounds like something someone who is brainwashed would say
the guy in the hat is the #1 reason why Christians are not taken seriously. So inconsistent. And then the world judges Christianity based on those guys and we gotta work almost triple to fix their shenanigans.
Jose Leon for real smh
Seems the Bible has a diagnosis, and a cure here:
"You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God."James 4:4 ESV
We need to humble ourselves, and be on God's side, rather than exalting ourselves, and claiming that God's on our side.
The "seeker friendly" churches are engaged in friendship with the world. Not a good thing.
I feel you man, and so we need to disciple the brothers and sisters!
Well said
REally? HOw about the rest of them? They are for slaughtering Muslims overseas. They defend genocide and oppression in Israel against the Palestinians. Don't worry , mainstream Christianity has already destroyed credibility.
His argument: My feelings>God's word.
I deleted my comment after seeing yours. 👌This guy is so internally conflicted.
he literally said he doesn’t believe everything in the Bible
He's deceived
@@RansomedSoulPsalm49-15 That’s so very sad that, that guy said that he doesn’t believe everything in the Bible! How so very unfortunate!
@@MaverickColtman I can’t delete my comment lol I wrote a few paragraphs saying the exact same thing. Really wish I had the brevity you guys do because people often dismiss me when they see how many words I typed 😂
"I believe what God says about it. And I'm going to stand on His truth, rather than your opinion."
Realist thing I've heard all day
The Apologia brother is anointed. Keep up the Kingdoms work.
AMEN!
"My opinion comes from a much deeper place than a Book"
Welcome to the last generation my friends!!!
Meg I mean look at what the biggest churches consist of..
It’s very sad but don’t give up hope! I’m a Christian teen and it’s not the last generation - I won’t let it be.
Retro Spirit - awesome! Don’t lose your focus on that.
Pray for strength and wisdom. May God bless you through your journey
@@veronicadonahue8451 Dang, right on brother! Or sister! ✝️💪❤️
Roberto Esquivel Sister actually but thank-you all so much :)
I feel I feel I feel I feel I feel I feel
classicrockonly LOL right!
classicrockonly agreed..feelings with bad reasoning will lead people into trouble
classicrockonly ...like a morning star..??
Exactly.
Yep all his feelings 😭
"You said you're a Christian right?" best line of the whole video.
Haha, and the other one « I belive everything that God said, then reading what someone has wrote» are u a Christian? U also belive everything he said, then carries a book? 😂😂
what this man needs to understand about the "emotional state" of the woman, is that after she kills her baby it is far worse than he is claiming they feel by hearing the truth. The pain from that decision causes many to become self destructive and often suicidal.
Yes, I became suicidal after I killed my lbaby girl. If Jesus hadn't stepped in to save me I would be dead now. Praise the Lord! I got born again and rejoice that one day I will see my little girl again!
That’s where I am now.. it’s haunting. Especially when you knew the right thing to do before hand. Not at the time but definitely grew up in a family that valued life. The guilt never leaves. It’s been about 2 years now..
@@lesblase3667 ask for God's forgiveness through Jesus Christ our Saviour...God loves you ❤️
Yo, that's a great point
That is simply not true. The vast majority of women who abort feel only relief. Isn't lying un-Christian?
So, he's a Christian who's "opinion comes from a much deeper place than a book"? Sorry dude, you're not a Christian. You're actually a moral relativist with a secular humanist worldview.
Any Christian can infer he gets his knowledge from the Holy Spirit. It becomes a problem when these people disagree on essential Christian doctrine.
Ageed. My main problem with this gentleman is that he is essentially claiming spiritual knowledge that goes beyond what God has revealed in the Bible. I do believe the Holy Spirit works and speaks to people but He won't give you advice or special knowledge that contradicts the Bible.
Modernism destroys Traditional Catholic Faith. Read Saint Augustine, Saint Thomas, the catechism of Trent, the message of Our Lady of Good Success, of La Fayette, of Fatima, of Akita!
Even Secular Humanists know that Abortion is wrong.
This is why God says in His word “trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.” Pray for this guy, he’s leaning too much on his own understanding. Many contradictions here from him. Keep witnessing you guys!
Also "In those days there was no king in Israel. Everyone did what was right in his own eyes."
This poor guy is so lost. So inconsistent.
Lucky Marie The bible says to them that do not understand these words are foolishness!!!! And what he is saying is those who have not accepted Christ as your lord and savior and the Holy Spirit has come to reside with them they'll never understand
Lucky Marie Absolutely! He contradicts Himself about every other time he opens his mouth!!
Running in circles
Many are led astray. God’s Word never changes. We are to conform our minds to His. He does not conform to ours. Narrow is the way.
As the American Indian “Chief Running Bull” would say, “this white man speak with fork tongue.”
It saddens me that I used to be so much like this man. Thank God for bringing me to repentance and faith!!!
“It’ll make them feel bad” well they are gonna have a whole lot more pain and suffering if they end up in hell
This poor man is completely lost. It's sad that he's claiming Christianity, But yet he's refuting The Word of God. Pray for that man along with all the women who feel abortion is a way out. Pray for all the unborn children who are wonderfully made in the image of GOD.
Mr. Stotts...PREACH!
Amen
This is why I had such trouble when I moved finding such a good church. People would give me a "word of knowledge" or "message from God" in prayer meetings and it would directly contradict the word of God and di would outright deny it and demonstrate how it did not line up. To the point where I was asked not to attend prayer meetings when the pastor said they are excersizing thie gifts of hearing God, which is not a gift of the spirit. I told him if he is giving license to his entrusted flock to tell people messages counter to the word of God then he has spit in Christ face and is dishonored God. That basic formula has happened to either me or my wife as we stood for th word of God in 5 or 6 churches now since our move. It's very disheartening that church after church preaches and shares these fake "words from God" and are tolerant of the devils lies.
He’s called a false convert he’s not a Christian but a self professed Christian he needs to repent we need to pray for him
Years ago many devout Christians owned slaves. Were they really Christians? I mean, the Bible had men of God owning slaves and God seemed to be on their side. Would you call a Christian with slaves today a true Christian? I doubt it. But "God's People" owned them. Hmmmmm
Note: please don't consider a deeply mistaken individual rejected by God.
@@swampratzozzle yes exactly we all grow day by day in our knowledge of God and we sin less each day God is patient with us
@@swampratzozzle 1. You don’t know if they were devout
2.in the Bible it was indentured servitude, based on understanding
3.they would rip pages out of the Bible and not allow slaves to read
4. Look at how the Bible teaches to care of your indentured servants
5. The Bible states be not conformed to this world, so just because something was socially acceptable doesn’t mean it’s now a pass.
6. Just because someone says they’re a Christian doesn’t mean they are, test the spirit by the spirit, ,you will know them by their fruits.
As we know that only few will enter by the straight and narrow path, and many will perish, as the road to destruction is broad and easy to follow and many will enter, as stated in the word. So for all repent, trust, and believe in Jesus and be saved. Much love and God bless.
@@Juduh people owned slaves in the bible and claimed it was okay with God. It was not There is no way around that. King David and Solomon had hundreds of sex slaves called concubines and yet you revere their words. Please stop worshipping the bible as coming from God to determine what’s acceptable.
"They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us."
1 John 2:19 ESV
Very well spoken truth. Excellent job brother in Christ.
Most Lukewarms like him have a lot that "I" talk. Hes the one being self righteous.
Lots of lukewarm out there in America unfortunately. The church has been corrupted just a Jesus said
The Lord is disgusted by these types (Revelation 3:16), and rightly so. Atheists and Satanists deserve accolades for being the way they are instead of being like these sorry creeps.
I too have a problem with the sign..
It is not big enough!!
As is the case with many "professing Christians" they rely on their opinions rather than the truth of God's word.
What is really sad is that they take the opinions of a book that they mistakenly call "God's Word" and justify it and contradict Jesus, who claimed to be the only authority on the true nature of God.
What is particularly hilarious/sad/horrific, is that even the Bible doesn't claim to be the ultimate authority - it says JESUS is the Word of God.
Yeah, too bad God doesn’t exist though 🤷♂️
Bigtombowski I will do my best. As of now there is not a single iota of concrete evidence that he exists. All evidence for his existence is just moral, sometimes it’s disguised as scientific, but there’s nothing solid actually backing it up, no real scientific findings. He was made up at a time when science was very limited and we knew little to nothing of our existence. To give ourselves value and put our mind at ease we decided to attribute everything to a God. And so that we don’t have to be afraid of death, we made up an afterlife. I’m personally not one to believe in things that there is no proof to support actually exists, especially with how advanced science is today. Religion was really created to make people feel more comfortable and ordered, with religion they could have moral value, dignity, societal do’s and don’ts, they didn’t have to be afraid of death and etc. I think it’s time we stop living in the past and living our life by a book written thousands of years ago.
@@swampratzozzle How do people use the Bible to contradict Jesus, exactly?
@@jesussaves6625 Well, there are declarations by some writers in the Bible about what God is like, that he rains fire from heaven and kills people that don't listen to him. Some also say that God told them to commit genocide and have no mercy even on children and pregnant women, because they are enemies of Israel. Along comes Jesus and when his disciples want this to happen to unbelievers he rebukes them and says "you don't know what spirit you are of" and "the thief comes to kill . . . but I have come to bring you life". He also says "I say to you love your enemies, do good to those who do all manner of evil against you, bless those who curse you, so you will be like your Father in heaven, who is kind and merciful to the ungrateful and the wicked. He blesses with rain both the just and the unjust". So, anyone who quotes these verses that say opposite of what Jesus says are using the bible to contradict Jesus. These are just a few examples...
"You guys are not called to judge" while he just judged them!!!.. the hypocrisy is strong in this one!!
King of Kings Everyone judges everyone lol. Everyone
King of Kings Amen
Hi is a cornflake
The dude in the pink shirt or the Christian preacher??
@@-muffin_head-8020 no his a fake Christian
I'm amazed by these modern Christians that claim to be Christians but say the Bible isn't 100% reliable.So contradicting.
"I care about what I can see and connect with" well you'll be able to connect and see the baby if you let it live
Amen!
Nick Gagnon disagreeing and saying it's unreliable are 2 different things
What is not reliable?
Nick Gagnon
Such as........?
And one day, he will stand before God Almighty and see him. But for eternity will not be able to connect with God unless while he's alive he repents and agrees with God.
The man who is with apologia is so patient and good at talking with this confused guy. So encouraging & such a good example.
Zach, you demonstrated incredible patience during this exchange and it was very edifying. Thank you sir.
Good work brothers!
Keith Thompson. How come you haven't made a video refuting jehova witness? I was in your channel looking trough your stuff and nothing.
He has a video about it. Search for it, its from Paul Washer
I agree.. Those guys were doing great.. I'm so against abortion unless the mom is in a condition where she could die being pregnant.. God would understand if it had to do with saving the woman's life.. But other than that it is definitely 100% a sin to have an abortion.. I believe there should be a law where your not aloud to have an abortion unless it saves your life..
that guy is a hot mess. He doesn't understand that he has no rationale in his words.
Steve Hess hot?
When he gets to heaven, he’ll straighten out God. He’ll let God know how he “feels” about how He’s running things. SMH
@@leonelmesc6670 yep, misapplied idiom, lol
He said he was a Christian multiple times then at the very end 22:00 in he says "my opinion comes from a much deeper place then a book (referring to the Bible)"..
That is a Self-centered Humanist and not a Christian
Since there is no "book deeper than the Bible" he's not a Christian no matter how many times he says he is....tragic
Ya the spirit of Satan so sad.
@@karibgold5394 Sooo, if you are relying on the Bible, why don't you agree with it when it says wicked women deserve to have their pregnant bellies ripped open?
@@swampratzozzle You don't really care to know the truth or you wouldn't ask that question...you simply want to accuse God, and that's your terrible problem. When people choose to rebel against God, they are fair game (by their own choice of not wanting God and His protection, to be destroyed by enemies. Of course you don't care to know the truth, or you would know by reading the chapter, what that verse pertains to, instead of accusing God whom you don't know, and accuse Him while knowing nothing about Him or His Word.
The guy on the right encourages me to know the WORD!
Our red shirted friend shows he”s we’ll learned his public school mantra that “”there is NO such thing as absolute truth!”. Soooo sad that considers himself a Christian! Maranatha!
And ignoring that in saying that, he has made an absolute statement. There seems to be no logic or critical thinking among many today.
"I've been a Christian my whole life."
That's not what the Bible says.
What's not what the bible says?
Sensei Miyagi Are you standing with the seemingly lost man in the red shirt or the Christian in sunglasses? Maranatha!
@@chrisb9280 1 John 1:12-13 - Nobody is born (natural birth) a Christian, according to the Bible.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power *to become the sons of God,* even to them that *believe* on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
I can’t listen to three people talk at the same lol
fr, he goes away at the 5:00 mark though
I would rather follow the other guy...this one hurts my ears it's so ignorant!
Right
Chris Ramirez thank you..speaker guy needs to move
@@neilbarc1861 yes
Absolutely love this ministry and how they confront with truth and love. Great job gentlemen.
The modern Christian church is so lost. But the Lord will always have victory. Keep spreading the word, brothers. Praying for all of them.
Ah yes the 11th Commandment, “Thou shalt not make other people uncomfortable about their own sin.”
11:35 "Everyone goes through different stages of their life": NOT IF THEY ARE ABORTED!!!
Giavanna M. French I mean right?! It only flows logically lol, great call to point out!
WELL SAID!!!
Pray for this brother that Jesus open his eyes. Bless you brother for standing in truth about murder.
It's sad that people would rather stand on their opinions than God's Truth. I applaud your resilience and steadfastness Apologia Studios.
GOD BLESS YOUR MINISTRY, KEEP FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT IN JESUS NAME!
What a false Christian looks like
15:55 is actually a crazy statement wow what sad and terrible times we live in..
Exactly! This video is now a few years old, but now so many people have this same deceived view. It's being taught by pastors, Christians and podcast influencers. All of these are teachers that face a harsher judgement according to God's Word. I love how the evangelist told him to repent from his sins and turn to Jesus. Amen!
This guy is confused
Conflict Ortiz hr seems to be 90% there but he's just wavering that 10%
Who is the author of confusion?🧐
The high level of intelligence in the reasoning here is really inspiring to me.
He isn't Christian he is Liberal
And "Facts dont care about your Feelings"
He says he believe in God and his word but not all. This guy is very unstable and needs to repent.
Keep doing work for God Apologia?? Amen Amen
DeepOff exactly
Brother, how can you equate a whole group of people and call them "evil" if you don't know their heart. This is why your country is so divided and there is just rampant hatred being perpetuated by Christians when they say that.
Please hear me out. I am a "liberal" woman who is a Christian and I absolutely condemn abortion and do not support it whatsoever. But I am "liberal" because I think we need to do something about climate change NOW before more lives are lost due to the floods, fires, tornadoes etc that are our own fault. And I believe in universal healthcare. As a Canadian I see how amazing it is for people to not pay a cent to go to a hospital and not go into debt because of a broken home or have to mortgage their house and go into poverty over a kidney stone.
I do not support abortion and I am watching these videos so I can learn how to tell others about how important it is that we put an end to it. But I am "liberal" for many other reasons that are important to God.
So please don't put everyone into a box and label them with hate because you don't know a person's heart based on their political party. Please think about it brother. God bless you
"I'm not telling you I'm right, I'm not telling you your wrong". The state of society at its finest. Nothing but your personal feeling is a fact.
I don't "feel."...that's not my "opinion," not my "perception"....that's where your folly is sir. Good job refuting this guy in a patient and yet strong manner.
This guy got wrecked, I hope God opens his eyes to his blindness and that he finds real life in sweet biblical truth
Perhaps Red Hat guy actually goes to church... Joel Osteen's Church! I feel, I feel, I feel...I feel he is very confused
2 Timothy 4:3-4
Sad but true Joel osteen is a false teacher
I understand him because as a younger man I used to be a lot like him we should all pray for that man that he open up the Bible and read the true word of God and he can make it to see his true face in Jesus name amen
The Holy Spirit is calling this man’s name. Pray for him.
"It's impossible to be consistent." Wow.
Maybe because ppl say they belive in everyword god said, then open a book what ppl have wrote. And everyone are so away in there head, that they think what ppl wrote are what God said. U are one of Them my friend, are u?
@@MaximillianLukas I don't understand what you are saying. But it is very possible to stay consistent
@@tuchesuavae no its not. Only if you make your own little story to fit your bible. U are so wrong. Its not importent to be consistent in matthers like this, sometimes it comes up something thats need to be done. And u have to change for that situasion only. Ppl have to have a clear line. U no its not a human when its 5 days old.
If u raped hold prisoner for 5 month, u should still have the right to choose what the woman want to do. Its so nasty to have good people say and scream things like the other idiot did... religion just fuck off.. and Stay out of normal ppl bissness.. so sad, u dont know how u fuck up other ppl lives... dont Even answer
@@MaximillianLukas what are you talking about? And yes it's possible. Don't contradict yourself or lie and you will be consistent, it's that easy. Even the guy with the short hair made his points while staying consistent.
@@tuchesuavae yes. And have to answer Stupid questions to prove it for this Stupid dude, that call himself man of god.. what are u, the same or? Like its so fkn importent for the con. That u dont contradict yourself.. like u win, Even if the other guy can think..
If u live for 2000 years and did whatever, its easy to beat a slave so it dont die.. or is it, sins they have a role for that to.. why is that? Who need that quate? And wtf, u think that came from god... little fkn god
So, “bringing up emotions” is a sin. Interesting. Sadly, this guy is right in line with that bill in California that promises to make it a violation of consumer law to try to counsel people in accordance with God’s Word. Awesome dialogue (and great production values as well ....audio was perfect)
The classic "I've been a christian my whole life" statement that ironically demonstrates de opposite
No one has been a Christian their entire life.
@@carlmclemore6104 that wasn’t the point
@@lesblase3667 I just made it a point. You interpreted my comment as a disagreement with OP, when I was instead expounding on what he said. That's on you.
@Covid-19 has never been isolated nor examined please show me where the Dead Sea Scrolls posit a "White Jesus " or any Jesus, for that matter? Do you even know what the Dead Sea Scrolls are?
Christians are born again. To say "I've been a christian my whole life" is to say there is no distinction between the old and new man
How incredible to do this!!! As a child i had deformaties and was butchered through my childhood with unnecessary treatments and have been quite ill all my life but i found god through all of this and am so gratefull to have found gods love for me.....every child is precious even the unwanted and damaged ones and murder is murder.....
Zach, God bless you my brother for speaking truth in boldness. I love what your church is doing. It's inspirational. God's clearly using you as his hand extended for the lost and I pray I can have a similar impact on his creation. Blessings, Dave.
Brother your are so gifted with communication!
It was the work of the Holy Spirit through him!
Yeah he just proved he’s unsaved by saying he don’t believe in all scriptures
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God bless the guy in the red hat, but he doesn't have a clue.
Straw Man absolutely none.. zip NADA zero
2 John 1:10-11 specifically warns against blessing people like the man in the red hat. You should read it.
Charles Hughes he didn't say anything wrong... dig in some more brother.... would not be wrong to pray for the lost and he was lost.. lost like a fart in a tornado..
Ari Onassis-Sugen okie dokie
Charles Hughes forgive me if i misstated. We should love everyone... even our enemies. I pray for everyone before myself often. God bless you.
*WARN THEM!*
Ezekiel 33:8-9
When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
Glory To GOD!!!
GOD does not waver!!!
Thank you young man for your strong commitment to God's truth!!!
5:02 So glad the man in the blue shirt moved away. I agree with him 100% but couldn't hear the conversation.
The idea of 'Christ the love hippie' that said nothing confrontational in regards to sin is the biggest lie in all the world. Christ spoke of hell more than anyone in the Bible with half of his talks involving "repentance" and the "horribleness of our sins." Love is how one expresses these truths.
No, Christ did NOT speak of hell more than anyone He spoke of The valley of Hinnom, the grave, and the garbage dump outside Jerusalem. Way later people translated those words "hell" and assigned pagan meaning to them. You also buy into "repentance" as a proper translation for a word that means a "massive and complete change of mind". Jesus did not condemn sinners, he loved them and showed solidarity to the ones outcast by the righteous people of his day - by righteous I mean those who followed the law to a T. His reason? "The sick need a physician". He came to HEAL sinners, NEVER to punish them. Take the woman caught in adultery. He should have insisted she be stoned. I mean God said to, right???? WRONG.
He let the people who hung him on the cross off the hook. Seriously, what could possibly be more sinful than killing God's Son?????? If he did that, he ain't punishin' no one. Sin is its own punishment. He came to heal sin. Sin is far far far FAR worse than behaving badly. It is a cancer that destroys the soul. It is a blindness about who God really is. This causes us to run from fellowship with God. Jesus said eternal life is "intimately experiencing in fellowship the Father and the one he has sent". Death is the opposite.
Keep giving praise to our King! Amen!
This is sad and tragic all at the same time 😓 God help that dude. Thanks for standing in and speaking the truth in love guys. You're a blessing indeed.
8:20
“Do you believe The Bible?”
“...Yes.”
Him hesitating says a lot.
In today's society. Feelings are more important than life.
Sad but true
That was insane!!! Welcome to the new Christianity brought to you by the Democratic Party and Deepak Chopra
Exactly right. "My truth" has become the truth.
"I'm taking what you say and pushing it to consistency!" -BOOM
I know! Lol oh boy..
I read this just as he said it!
Judgement needs to start in the house of God according to Peter. The world is the way it is because of wishy washy, worldly, emotion-guided christians. Salt that has lost its flavor is good for nothing.
Alfredo Bullen Amen brother, that's what I say about most tv preacher's!! Also can't serve 2 gods, serve God or serve mammon!!
manta I'm glad to hear your testimony. God has rescued us all from error. Even Pastor Jeff has confessed how deep in error he was before God kindly saved him.
God is incredibly patient. Ask Adam, Cain, Noah (120 years preaching), Moses, Jonah and the disciples who knew Jesus gave Israel 40 years to repent before the Destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple. I wish I was that patient LOL
Imagine when we become a world completely ruled by feelings. Lord help us.
*This was a great civil convo...no outbursts or heated exchange. Just two Christians, one lukewarm & one by the book.*
his biggest issue is the issue of authority, when its all said and done... he's guided by opinion and emotion, not Scripture. This is modern evangelicalism
Alfredo Bullen it really is becoming the hardest fight. Damn Satan & all his work to deceive the masses. May he & he alone get the worst torment found in all of hell!
ARe you guided by Scripture? Do you still think slavery is ok? How about polygamy, or building a Temple for God with slave labour? HOw about wiping out whole nations of unbelievers, children included? Do you wear cotton/ply clothing? Do you touch your wife when she is on her period? Do you clean everything she sat on after her period is done? Are you willing to stone rebellious teenagers to death?
I hate to tell you this but JESUS is the authority when looking at Scripture. My goodness, HE contradicted it over and over.
Jesus is the standard. Love is the standard.
Abortion is horrific and kills millions of innocent babies. So does nationalism, foreign wars that are none of America's business, capitalism and shunning the homeless. I could go on.....
So while I strongly oppose abortion and the harm it does BOTH to mother and baby, I think we shouldn't use the modern Bible as the reason.
That dude ain't a christian.
Darren Davis you don’t know his heart but he definitely doesn’t have the right thought process on abortion
Jessica Byard than he not a Christian what u mean he don’t know his heart? The moment u say a gay person can go to Heaven that’s enough fruit to know they ain’t really recieve Jesus. Jesus says u will know them by there fruit and he obviously isn’t.
@@jessicabyard3507 He also denied the infallibility of the word of God a couple times throughout the video.
Jessica Byard definitely
not a follower of Christ, he speaks against Jesus’ teachings.
ur judging. If he accepted Christ died for his sins and he repents and lives a kind gentle life but was accused of helping so many at judgement. You might be surprised on how you make money that you are breaking Gods law or bending your taxes. You might be doing things youre not repenting for. Dont be so sure to call someone not Christian when you might be in trouble too.
Definitely not a Christian.
man i dont know this one is tough. on one hand he doesn't care about murder and on the other he proclaims repentance and faith which saves. might not be true repentance. Jesus, Jesus did we not proclaim in your name did we not cast out demons in your name and Jesus says depart from me you worker of lawlessness.
Nick Gagnon you shall know them by their fruits. His fruit shows what he is or isn't. And we do have a right because scripture tells us.
He could just be confused.
He may be a Christian but he doesn’t have a true biblical worldview!!
It's an especially wicked deception to have one believe he is Christian with no distinction between him and willful sinners. The same holds for the once saved always saved group. You mean after I accept Jesus and repent get baptised I'm saved. After I can kill, rape, murder, anything I want because I'm still saved? Professing Christians actually believe this nonsense. The evil one is cunning.
Amen 🙏 Thank you for standing on Gods truth.
Brother with the red hat is allowing emotion to deceive him. Emotions blur our vision not only of truth, but as a consequence, of reality. Prayers for him.
NOT a brother (Matthew 7:21-23; I Corinthians 5:11-13; 6:9-10)!
This highlights beautifully how the evil of relativism has made its way into the church. Great work guys!
Well handled
Roshin Varghese "with complete patience and teaching"
Zach is fantastic.
Wow! What amazing patience demonstrated.
Great job... love your ministry
This guy believes in God i believe but isn't a Christian nor is he born again from what he is saying.. good dialogue though, being lukewarm is a dangerous place to be according to Jesus
Gods facts don't care about your feelings sir... SMH
Which god?
@@hensonjames1664 The first Unmoved Mover who Created the Universe out of Nothing and revealed Himself to us through his creation. This Creater is Spaceless,timeless and immaterial and thus that is the God that we refer to
German Arias Prove there was a mover. Prove it is unmoved. Prove there was any sort of creation by a being. Then prove this claimed mover is responsible for it. Great claims but you need to demonstrate them. Thanks.
@@hensonjames1664 Sure thing Henson. Check out the Cosmological Argument on my website, if you scroll down the linked page, it is a Word document. It proves that the universe must have had an Uncaused First Cause, and transcend the universe, etc.
calebpeppiatt.wix.com/seekandyouwillfind
Thanks!
@@calebp6114
I reject premise 1. Beginning to exist is an oxymoron. We can only say things began to exist when they aren't fundamental, such as a car being assembled from parts. The car is defined into existence. It isn't a something fundamentally beginning to exist.
In premise 2 universe needs to be defined. The way modern physicists use the word, it only refers to the things which are detectable. There is no scientific consensus that the big bang is the beginning of everything. The consensus is just that all the matter we see around us was at some point in the distant past very close together. If you want to pass literally everything off as being created by god, the big bang doesn't help get you there because it relies on a different definition of universe. And if you take 'universe' to mean literally everything, I appeal back to my response for the first premise.
As for Ghazali's argument, I reject premise 1. As for counting up to infinity, we have a symbol for that. Its called a summation. It looks like an M twisted 90 degrees counterclockwise. The summation of 1+2+3+4... = infinity. As for the guy counting down from an infinite past, you are assuming the prior day or the day after are all the same size of infinity as the infinity of today which is the one he counted. I am aware through linear bijection we can establish that those infinite sets all have the same cardinality. But cardinality isn't the same thing as size.
And if something is immaterial, spaceless, and timeless, you then have a dualistic (or polyistic) metaphysics in which there is no mechanism for the two (or many) realms to interact.
"my opinion comes from a much deeper place than a book." WOW
That book is deeper than he understands.
Is this guy Jeff Durbin's brother, he sounds just like him. Great guy.
Their point: Scripture> Feelings
His point: Feelings > Scripture
Thou shall not bring emotions on woman.
😂😂😂
They need to have those emotions. Maybe then they'll realize that what they're doing is murder and maybe change their mind
Dying 🤣
Not a Christian
He could be a Christian but he certainly isn’t a Christian with a true biblical worldview.
Revelation 3:16 "So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth."
He's a lose cannon
Blessed be the God of our salvation.
"I drive by this place everyday."
"I didn't know this place existed till I saw you here."
"You kinda just look at everything with one very clear lane of looking" ... I see no issue with that.
Yup, that's what God does :)
"I don't believe in government in any way, shape, or form" ... "alright"
Hey Red hat, a 2 year old cannot live without his mother or father.
Neither can most 20 year olds these days lol
You know you have an airtight theological position when all you hear is "I think, I believe, I feel..."
😂
Amen
Excellent work in preparation for the gospel of peace! Thank you brother's and sister's. I love you and keep reading the Word's of God.
This guy is blowing my mind especially with all the help you guys give with the women and babies.