What's Miami's Path to the Big 12?
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Is there a path for Miami and the Big 12 Conference in the conference realignment battle brewing out of the ACC? Heartland College Sports' Pete Mundo discusses how the lawsuit with Florida State and Clemson will play a role
Big 12 would have a big feather in hat. If Miami joined b12, it would have the two largest
Markets and fastest growing in state of Florida with ucf/Orlando and Miami
Yep that would be huge ... and awesome!
And not happening😂😂😂Gooooo Bluuuuuueeeeee Baby!
@@None-dj8iyyou sound like last year’s PAC-12 nay sayer’s. 😂
Miami would be a nice addition for UCF to have an in-state rival. And it could rekindle the ole Big East matchup of Miami and West Virginia. They played every year from 1991-2003. It would be a great rivalry within the Big 12.
What would suck if the ACC collapses with Florida State and Clemson leaving and possibly Miami is that SMU just joined in a desperate attempt to be in a P5 conference. SMU took a terrible deal and they need to be in the B12 not the ACC. That’s dumb.
Oh please let Miami go to the big 12. My Santa list would be fulfilled
Jen, 😂😂that's not happening unless notre dame goes to the B1G with FSU 😂😂Gooooo Bluuuuuueeeeee Baby!
You just had a dream where Miami landed in the BiG12 💫✨ #PlatonicDreams 😂
If the ACC sinks like the Titanic i see Miami in the Big 12. FSU will go to the BIG. UNC and Clemson may go to the SEC. VT, Pitt, Louisville and NCS will get nervous and join the Big 12. I don't believe the BIG want two Florida teams and the SEC doesn't want Miami either.
A viable surviving Tier 2 ACC would be no worse than the already Tier 2 BIG12.
@@tarheel7406 if the mid range teams leave there is NO conference. Why don't you understand this ? The lower end teams will be forced to the AAC. Why would they stay there when there is more security in the Big 12. Even Miami wants out from what I understand. They would probably end up in the BIG 12 cause the SEC doesn't want them and the BIG would only take them if they don't get FSU. By the way, they will get FSU.
@@ChrisSadowski-pp1np The new BIG12 is the bottom of the original BIG12, plus G5s, plus PAC refugees. Why don't you understand this? The BIG12 is not and won't be some lower but acceptable P3. There is no purpose for an even larger, wider and more diverse Tier 2 BIG12.
@@tarheel7406 in one year ESPN will choose to not "opt in" to the contract extension if their top brand FSU is gone. They will leave. The BIG wants them and they will get them. Then it's lights out for the ACC. There is no conference without FSU, they are the top brands in football. Clemson and UNC to the SEC, mid range schools plus Miami to the BIG 12. That just leaves everyone else for the AAC.
@@ChrisSadowski-pp1np There is no reason to believe that ESPN won't renew even if the ACC loses its top teams. Again, the new BIG12 is the benchmark for a fully depleted/backfilled former peer major. That is the assumption for the future ACC.
a) No new BIG12 and future ACC member will be competitive in the future P2 world.
b) The BIG12 is already waning from its recent men's basketball peak.
c) The BIG12 is the worst P4 in overall sports and academic prestige.
Given this reality, why would an ACC remainder move to the new BIG12 over a viable surviving ACC? Why would the PAC, BIG12 and ACC remainders want to consolidate to dilute rivalries and increase travel expenses?
Miami is headed to the BIG10 with ND, makes 20 teams in the BIG10. FSU, Clemson, UNC, UVA headed to SEC makes 20 teams. BIG12 gets picks from everyone left in the ACC.
I don’t think people understand that right now it’s not about Miami going to the big 12 it’s about the SEC and Big Ten not adding Miami and if Miami is not added to one of those two conferences, they will be without a pi power five real conference. they will have to join the big 12. Now that’s again in a scenario that the Big Ten in the SEC don’t pick them up the SEC doesn’t need Miami if they’re going to add Florida State they will have Florida and Florida State Miami makes sense going to the Big Ten with its academics but rumor is Florida State might get plucked by the Big Ten so it just depends on where Florida State goes but I still think Miami joins one or the other before they join the big 12.
A viable surviving Tier 2 ACC would be no worse than the already Tier 2 BIG12.
If Miami wants to go ANYWHERE, they will need to step up and fight the ACC. ACC is a wounded animal and will clutching tight to hang on
And they should!
You would think Miami would ride with FSU but nawl. So I say let their azz stay in the ACC.
@@AIRCOOLEDLIFE Will FSU want to go anywhere with them? Or is it every man for himself?
@@heartlandcollegesports Every man for themselves.
Miami will go to big ten
Shut up. It's time to cut the bs out and sue ESPN!
Who will sue ESPN?
Lol you guys are something else who the hell is going to pay those massive tv deals
Fox, CBS, NBC, major streaming services! That's all. Espn needed to fail with there dirty practices!
Pete, I'm not gonna lie, conference realignment 3.0 or whatever we are up to is not compelling content for me and I suspect a lot of other people. If the ACC implodes, as I believe it probably will, I really don't give a damn where the former Atlantic Coast Conference teams end up. If we have to deal with a lot of grousing and complaining about joining this conference like we've gotten from Utah, then hard pass on that crap. Let them go independent or join the Atlantic 10 conference or wherever they can find a conference that will take them. I really don't care to hear any more about it.
Understood, but if things are brewing it's our job to talk about them... I'm not in love with it, but there are Big 12 implications here.
The ACC dissolution is less compelling than the Pac. I think that's because the Pac was running against its own contract expiration, and it was Yormark's action - cutting in line - that created the opportunity. It felt like a Big 12 awakening from the dead. Plus, the Pac schools were so elitist and bumbling. The ACC situation, on the other hand, is all outside the control of the Big 12, and feels like the final stage of building the P2. We're just waiting for potential scraps, after all the lawsuits settle. There is no Colorado to the Big 12 first domino here.
Miami is a Big12 school
Creative how? Innovative, _how?_ You didn't really convey any actual information there.
_Supposed_ Power 2? Of course Miami fans will be disappointed to end up in that _other_ conference. You can tell them to be happy about it, but they aint gonna. The B1G and SEC _are_ bigger and better and wealthier. ... but I do agree that Miami fans should temper their expectations a little and try to develop a bit more realistic understanding of their station -- they are _well_ down the list of programs of interest to the SEC and B1G.
But they _will_ be disappointed to land in the BIG-12. Utah fans are not super excited about where they've found themselves either. There is *_no_* program in the BIG-12 that wouldn't jump at the chance to go to the Power 2.
And speaking of jumping at the chance to go to the Power 2, you can expect a lot of that from your best players, in the Portal.
Miami will be a great fit for the big 12 the big 12 will need to continue to add because TCU and Utah may leave for the big ten Miami , VT , Louisville and GT would be great adds to the big 12 !
So the B1G would take on TCU and Utah, but not Miami? LMAO
Lol what ? why would the Big10 take TCU out of all the big12 schools if they don't take Miami that's an AAU school why would they take TCU that isn't one the only one I see them pursuing and it's a long shot is Utah because at least they're an AAU school
Bring 'em all in! I love that.
@@hazel-rah570 dude Miami has not been good in 20 yrs Ohio state broke the Miami button also miami don’t even have a football field
@@elliotthoward4738 And yet Miami is still a more coveted program than Utah and TCU both of which have never been relevant
The BIG12 is already a Tier 2 conference. The question is why would the BIG12 be a better option for an ACC remainder than the future depleted Tier 2 ACC. From the perspective of an ACC remainder.
Because its better to jump than be left behind because i see the big 12 going for Louisville and Pitt maybe a duke....UNC Clemson FSU are leaving who would be left Boston college Syracuse Georgia tech?
There's no guarantee ESPN/FOX want to pay the same money to a watered-down ACC...
@@heartlandcollegesports The new BIG12 is the benchmark for a fully depleted/backfilled former peer major conference, and its pro rata clause evidences that ESPN values all P5 remainders at a fungible ~$30M per.
@@noelramirez1551 The BIG12 has already been left behind.
@@tarheel7460 Moron. The ACC and PAC are/were in different situations.
And a hush swept across 'big 12' internet delusional prognosticators.
Why?
How down is the Big12 ? They need the ACC to fall apart to bring in better brands
Not better brands... just adding brands!
I like your videos but your background and graphics announcing your videos are boring.
Always open to better ideas :-)
@@heartlandcollegesports you should focus on the video cover image to get people’s attention. Depressed Ginger usually has some good ones for his videos. Also have some B12 guests on videos. Spencer McGlothlin with Locked On College Football usually has a Locked On guest from team he is discussing. Josh Neoghbors with 365 sports or Drake Toll with Locked on B12 might be good to have on to discuss B12.
@@Mr.Ed_Wayner Always open to feedback, but with all due respect to the guests you named, I've been following and covering the Big 12 since they were in diapers. I do have team-specific guests on, but for the Big 12, we are the dominant show for the conference and have pride in that!
@@heartlandcollegesports You don't need to change as I think what you're doing is fine and I enjoy listening, but I have wondered if maybe a "green screen" behind you that you can digitally add in Big 12 team logos and even the "Heartland College Sports" logo would help. I am no expert in this and don't have a clue about it, but I know some other UA-camrs that do that and it helps make the background better. That being said, my opinion/suggestion isn't worth anything. I'm only commenting because the above comment mentioned your background being "boring." I personally watch for content and not backgrounds. 😂
If the big 12 gets duke do they have to get unc as well.
After what feasible chain of events ends with either DUKE or UNC in the new BIG12?
Big 12....Over rated!!!
According to who????
@@heartlandcollegesports How many teams does the Big 12 have left in the NCAA tournament?
@jtm7336 If that's the case the SEC is super overrated.
@@lorenzohaynes3886 Agreed!
@@jtm73362, and there will also be 2 in the elite 8
No chance Miami go to Big12 sorry folks
Pete is doing the glass half full for joining the Big XII for the ACC teams - I like it.
Go to the crooks of college sports like the SEC and Big 10 they will be responsible for destroying all college sports because of their greed.