The Rise and Fall of Football in the Big East
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- Опубліковано 7 січ 2024
- The Big East Conference will always be remembered for the moments it has given us on the court. We think of the Big East Tournament at Madison Square Garden, many different National Champions, even Geno Auriemma's UConn dominating the Women's scene for a decade. But, not too long ago, Football had a home in the Big East, and it was pretty good too. There were guys like Michael Vick at Virginia Tech, the many pros from one of the greatest squads ever at Miami, and even Pat White with the West Virginia Mountaineers almost making the National Championship. Some of College Football's best moments happened because of the Big East. As it sits in the present day, Football in the Conference has moved on and ceased to exist, despite attempts to keep it up. A series of events led to the climax and the ultimate death of Football in the Conference, and this is the Fall of Big East Football.
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What were some of your favorite moments of Football in the Big East? What were other reasons why the Big East Football experiment collapsed?
Also, correction: 2009 Cincinnati was the first AQ team to not make the BCS National Championship since Auburn in 2004. Not the first team to ever miss it.
I don’t know since I wasn’t really old enough to watch it. But from what I’ve seen the 2007 season in the big east seemed cool
I would say the Fiesta and Sugar bowl wins WVU won. They proved the Big East could compete especially in bowl season. Also the Thursday night games with Louisville and Virginia Tech would get wild. We just needed a big money program like Penn State or Notre Dame to join.
Could’ve easily had a football conference with Notre Dame, Miami, PennSt, WVU, Pitt, VaTech, Syracuse, and BC had the dominoes fell right
No way Notre Dame would ever play in the Big East 😂
@@stonethrower24if they were ever to join a conference they'd have joined the big east
They did except for Notre Dame.
No we wouldn’t have, there was never even a .00001% notre dame played football in the big east ever
@@NA.NA..why not the big10
All of those teams who jumped ship have not been successful.
In the brief era of Big East football, UConn won two football championships and competed very well. The Huskies only need a level playing field to succeed.
Pat White is the only College QB to win 5 bowl games including 2 BCS bowls
It’s crazy!!!! College football is the money maker but the Big East Conference will always be known for basketball.
I was at WVU from 2001--05. I thought a lot happened then, and it was just the appetizer.
amazing video man thank you, love this channel
As a die hard Louisville fan I miss the big east so much man
Hope you continue uploading, I’ve loved your videos, the growth will come!
Last night the PAC12 officially died. RIP
2009 Cincinnati was not the first undefeated AQ to be shut out; that was 2004 Auburn. Also they probably wouldn't have made the title game with a Texas loss because they only just barely jumped TCU for #3 with a majority of the computers putting Cincinnati > Texas > TCU; a Texas loss reduces the Bearcats' computer lead to the point where TCU's human poll lead overcomes it.
Correct that is my mistake on the Auburn fact. The whole line was supposed to be “The first team SINCE Auburn” but I didn’t include that & didn’t realize until now. Thank you for the correction
That's speculative and quite possibly unsubstantiated because the human element was pervasive and it seems unlikely to me that an undefeated Cincinnati wouldn't have been elevated to the title game. Certainly Texas Christian was also represented but Boise State defeated them.
@@JKJ002You're not necessarily wrong. I remember that season would have made an interesting playoff but Cincinnati lost to Florida and Texas Christian lost to Boise State. Alabama won the national championship. Boise State was left standing. F.W.I.W.
Glad they didn’t because they would have been killed like every other time they played on a big stage.
Always said I might be the only person who misses Big East football. Maybe I'm wrong??
People loved the Big East, basketball and football alike.
I'm old enough to have watched Mike Vick play in college and I have never seen anything like that but RG3 was pretty close. He was awesome.
RG3 told reporters that Rentschler Field (UConn's Stadium) is a tough place to play. We beat Baylor twice with RG3 Quarterbacking.
@@arthurpasseri4590 that's cool. That was when y'all had that one coach who should've stayed but took "a better job" right? Randy Etsile I think? I believe that when a coach has that type of success at a school they should stay and maybe get a statue one day, but that's just my belief.
Brian Kelly taking off for ND before the Sugar Bowl crushed a terrific exciting Cincinnati team.
I personally think coaches should be REQUIRED to coach their team the whole season even if they accepted another job...I think its cowardly for a coach to do that to players he made promises to...I understand it might not be the call of the coaches, but the new schools might want them to start immediately..if thats true, then the NCAA should demand schools let new hires finish out seasons with their previous team before starting
4:39 that was foreshadowing for 2007
If Penn State had joined they probably have won or a minimum play for a couple of NCG games in the 90s. The 94 teams would have played Nebraska as opposed to playing Oregon in the Rose Bowl. Honestly, even though the Big East did have some strong years from 98-2003 overall the conference lacked depth and would have been easier to go undefeated than in the Big Ten
The Big East would not been dissolved if Penn St. had joined the conference. It would have led to the Big East having a more TV exposure and improved the perception of the conference. Miami and Penn St. would be the two main blue blood programs who would compete with each other on a yearly basis for the top spot in the conference and a national title shot. WVU, Louisville, Cincinnati, and Virginia Tech would consistently do well every year and compete for a conference title once every few years to create some parity. It also doesn't help that college football in the northeast isn't that big of a draw compared to other regions in the country.
Not getting Penn State was a big mistake
Can you do one specifically about Marquette?
All they had to do was get Penn st
So true.
Also could have added Temple and maybe Rhode Island from the beginning. Could have started out with 12 solid schools. 😢
In the post Oklahoma vs. NCAA world, there was no way the Big East could have held onto their FBS football members without adding football to their conference. Syracuse, Pitt, and BC would have been gone by the mid 90s. Adding football allowed them to hold onto those schools for 10 to 20 years longer than they otherwise would have.
TV Money is why the Big East began sponsoring football, and TV money is what drove the other power conferences to raid the Big East.
And at the end of the BCS era where the Big East's AQ status was being challenged, the football members knew they had to get out.
And TV Money is what truly pitted the football and non-football members against each other. The football members knew that they drove the networks to offer better TV contracts, and they wanted bigger shares. To the non-football schools, they really didn't care for being lumped into a basketball league with the replacements for Pitt, Syracuse, Louisville, WVU, and ND. The likes of Georgetown and Villanova didn't want to play in a basketball conference with East Carolina and Tulsa, so they decided their best future was not being in a league with football at all.
And what have those teams done since leaving? Nothing! Greed got the best of them.
I think this is mostly fair, though I do think it stops short of the full story when talking about the aftermath of declining the tv deal. Once the Big East declined the deal with ESPN, ESPN helped orchestrate the league’s demise by acting as a pseudo advisor to the ACC and encouraging the ACC to invite Big East teams in 2011.
Why didn’t they try to add Florida St. and South Carolina when they were added Miami and the other schools?
Big East is far better off without football. It's a sport that only ever destroys conferences and ruins regional rivalries for everyone. Basketball only has kept a close knit regional footprint with intense games every week.
Northeast schools are pretty much always garbage at football anyways so it’s a good deal for everyone.
The Big East is a great conference for the private Schools, but UConn is a misfit in it. Independent Football is dying and FCS (Division 1AA) is not fiscally viable. That's why Delaware is going FBS along with South Dakota State is looking to upgrade to FBS.
UConn, if Randy Edsall didn't leave after the Fiesta Bowl (Or told the UConn administration before the game he would be leaving) could have a different history. The Fiesta Bowl was run poorly by Edsall, it seems he didnt want to be there.
Another poor decision, from Connecticut's point, was the lawsuit by (then) AG Richard Blumenthal (the idiot Senator). Now, the ACC (with ex Big East members Syracuse, Boston College and Louisville) are inviting other Colleges to join, since UConn is blacklisted.
Third issue was when Randy Edsall left, UConn AD didn't want to hire an up and comer, but a coach who knew the northeast football scene, Paul Pastrloni, who left UConn football in shambles. Now UConn football is looking up, and hope we can either join the Big Ten, the Big 12 or the new look ACC when FSU and UMiami leaves.
UConn has zero chance to ever get into the B1G. Rutgers, Maryland, and Penn State will vote no to them and convince the football first schools like Ohio State and Michigan to vote them down.
Cincy wasn't first to miss undefeated. Auburn 2004 was
As a Cincinnati fan, the death of big east football was so devastating. Especially 2009 when we were 3 seconds away from going to a national title.
As a Cincinnati fan, I agree with you. Following the Big East dissolution, 10 long years in AAC purgatory.
You wasn't beating that 09 Bama team it would have been a bad beatdown
Born and raised in Syracuse. My dad was a student at SU when I was a kid. I went to DePaul. The demise of the Big East is soul crushing. I’ve never liked anything about the ACC.
@@randylochtefeld2806i just love remembering everyone saying shouldve stayed in c-usa and then winning 4 conference titles in a row practically 😏
I have no memory of mass UC fan (you said everyone) regret at moving from the CUSA to Big East. Huggins and Bob Goin went where the money was. I know Dantonio would not have taken the football job if UC had stayed in the CUSA. @@N0thing2C_here
Note Dame just might as well join the ACCfor football..But they wont.
They just signed a new extension with NBC.
The big east got a little greedy forsure.
Espn offered them around 14m per school in a 10 year deal and that was a bigeast without miami/vtech/bc
The 14m per school wouldve put them on par with what the other power conferences made at the time.
In 2011, Sec was making like 14m, big12 9-10m etc
Ofc they all got new contracts to push them into the 19-20m range like 2 years later so the bigeast wouldve been a bit behind (with the fox basketball contract the bigeast wouldve been at 16-17m per school. So only about 4-5m behind the other power conferences.
It would’ve undeniably still been a power conference money wise.
The aac ended up getting 8m/per year.
Not much to miss about the Big East. Irrelevant conference besides Miami. There’s a reason they (besides Miami) always got killed in big non-conference and bowl games.
WVU was 3 and 0 in BCS games brah
Absolutely untrue.
I wish conferences made sense again?
We will rise like a Phoenix out of the ashes
When?? 😂😂
Penn State was never in Big East Football
The Big East Conference wasn't a bad football conference..I actually prefer the old Big East Conference over the new mostly private universities Big East Conference.
Kinda ironic with everything going on in the Acc
Penn State was a better fit for the B1G, especially in wrestling. Iowa vs. Penn State. BigEast should have gone after Nova to make the jump to FBS and UCF. Nova UCF USF WVU Rutgers BC Memphis UConn Temple VT Pitt Cuse
Penn State would destroy if this conference was still around 😂
The ACC killed the conference. I don’t feel sorry for the ACC’s eventual collapse
The Big East ruined football in the Northeast, not the other way around. They got the comeuppance they deserved later, but far too late to save football. It's ridiculous that the most densely populated region in the country doesn't have a major college sports conference. People are going to say that's because the teams aren't good, but how much of that is because there's no football culture here because there's never been a conference? The Atlantic 10 could have been that conference, but the Big East looted it, then the Big East Catholics manipulated everything in favor of basketball.
this is why the world and life sucks now
It ruined UConn football
UConn thrived in Big East football. But if you’re saying the break up ruined UConn football, you may be right.
No. UConn ruined UConn football. But admitting that requires accountability - which is virtually frowned upon these days.
@@dantesinfernopurgatory7826 alright while that is true if they stayed in the big East they could have felt the pressure to improve the team
@@Colinbolin0 The Big East broke up...UConn went with the FBS schools to the American Athletic Conference, while the Big East was mostly a Basketball Conference. Villanova is a FCS school, Georgetown is a non scholarship football school, Seton Hall, Providence and St John's don't play football.
UConn's Athletic Department was mismanaged for about 15 years, now the AD is properly managed. Uphill climb for the football team, but hockey, baseball, basketball and soccer teams are strong.
@@arthurpasseri4590 yeah true can’t disagree with that but they would’ve been better off in Big East football
Umm….basketball was better….