Can I ask out if curiosity why is it okay for Christians to know that witchcraft, sorcery, magic etc goes against god but we can watch a movie for entertainment that contains spell books? Doesnt this contradict a Christian belief and value? I've been a Christian for three years and I'm stil learning what enters my eyes and ears is important but I also dont want to be oppressed by religion however i want to be wise and not be a hypocrite and like the world when as a Christian I'm meant to stand apart. How can i support a movie that promotes magic and not feel like I'm going against what the Bible says not to engage in? I'll be honest it's hard being a Christian because people who back and forth about what's right or wrong when we should just be going to the bible and it will tell us what we shouldn't be doing as Christians. People make ot difficult because then why not just be an Atheist or Agnostic and just be a good person and still be able to watch whatever we want and listen to whatever we want? I really do want to understand this. I'm not trying to judge people because god is the judge not me. We all fall short and we are sinful by nature. We can be driven by our own motives even if our intentions are not bad. I just searched this: Exodus 22:18: "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" Leviticus 19:26: "Do not practice divination or seek omens" Leviticus 19:31: "Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God" Deuteronomy 18:11-12: "Anyone who casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead is detestable to the Lord"
Hey. Thanks for the comment. I'd just say a few things in response, 1) Obviously, as with all things, Christians need to stay true to their own convictions between then and God and trust the Holy Spirit. If a movie like this is convicting for a Christian, then they would be wise to stay away from it. 2) It's important to keep in mind that something appearing in a movie is not the movie "promoting" that thing. That's not how movies work. A movie like this one is an imaginative fiction, the same as the original Wizard of Oz movie. It is not "promoting" witchcraft any more than it is promoting the idea that animals can talk, even though there are talking animals in it. 3) Real world witchcraft and the occult looks nothing like the make-beleive magic in Wicked. There are no spiritual/demonic forces in Wicked. So, at the end of the day as a Christian, it comes down to whether you think that the Bible condemning the real-world, child-sacrificing cultish practices in the first century is the same thing as prohibiting a Christian from watching a green-skinned character flying a broom in a fantasy movie. Personally, I don't at all. I think there are some reasons for Christians to be cautious about this movie, but none of those reasons have to do with a character being a witch in it. But again, I think each Christians will need to decide that for themselves between them and God. Thanks!
I found your channel through Underdog Theology. The main problem with Wicked the movie is that they only released one part this year and will release the second part next year, so people who aren't familiar with the whole story aren't getting the nuances of the story. There is a heavy fascist element in the movie, and the main group being oppressed are the Animals (who can speak) with the Wicked Witch being labeled at evil because she stands against the government. As the wizard says, "The best way to unite a group is to give them a common enemy." Let's just say that the bad guy is not the ones you'd expect, but not because the morality is flawed but because people are sinful. As a Christian parent, I think there are many elements in the movie worth discussing with our children. Discrimination and oppression. Bullying. Standing up for yourself and others. Civil disobedience. Friendship. Loyalty. Perception of different people and groups. Silencing of victims. Justice. If you have children who are easily scared, I would stop the movie after the "One Short Day" song and save the Wizard encounter for when they're older (which cuts out all of the witchcraft stuff and the scary animals too).
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I watched today and it was all good after, I started to see how they are trying to paint evil as good and good ( the white princes) as bad and clumsy, not to mention the espiritual part where she is reading that book that looks like guija itself, and starts saying something 😅😅😅that I couldn’t understand but I’m sure there is something wrong with that too, and as you mention the message that Disney has been given in all their live action movies about “inclusion” the movie lack of content and deepness into the characters life, a bit frustrated to be honest
Yeah, I think it probably works better on more basic level of "fun and colorful visuals and catchy songs" than it does if you get into the specific details, and may also depend how much wider cultural issues or baggage you bring with you into watching it. It's definitely not a deep movie, but I also wasn't really expecting it to be, so that didn't bother me as much. But I can see people frustrated or wanting more from it.
Watch a Wicked "slime tutorial" on youtube (a bootleg) to get the whole story of Wicked. There are many deep themes beyond "evil is good." The good witch calls out one of those themes from the beginning- "Are people born wicked or do they have wickedness thrust upon them?"
I'm always a bit nervous to answer this question since all kids are different, but I think it would probably be okay for her. I have two 9 year old sons and they'd both be completely fine with it. There's one scene that's maybe a bit intense (when Elphaba reads from a spell book to magically give the monkeys their wings), but its really not too bad.
Can I ask out if curiosity why is it okay for Christians to know that witchcraft, sorcery, magic etc goes against god but we can watch a movie for entertainment that contains spell books? Doesnt this contradict a Christian belief and value? I've been a Christian for three years and I'm stil learning what enters my eyes and ears is important but I also dont want to be oppressed by religion however i want to be wise and not be a hypocrite and like the world when as a Christian I'm meant to stand apart. How can i support a movie that promotes magic and not feel like I'm going against what the Bible says not to engage in? I'll be honest it's hard being a Christian because people who back and forth about what's right or wrong when we should just be going to the bible and it will tell us what we shouldn't be doing as Christians. People make ot difficult because then why not just be an Atheist or Agnostic and just be a good person and still be able to watch whatever we want and listen to whatever we want? I really do want to understand this. I'm not trying to judge people because god is the judge not me. We all fall short and we are sinful by nature. We can be driven by our own motives even if our intentions are not bad.
I just searched this:
Exodus 22:18: "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live"
Leviticus 19:26: "Do not practice divination or seek omens"
Leviticus 19:31: "Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God"
Deuteronomy 18:11-12: "Anyone who casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead is detestable to the Lord"
Hey. Thanks for the comment. I'd just say a few things in response, 1) Obviously, as with all things, Christians need to stay true to their own convictions between then and God and trust the Holy Spirit. If a movie like this is convicting for a Christian, then they would be wise to stay away from it. 2) It's important to keep in mind that something appearing in a movie is not the movie "promoting" that thing. That's not how movies work. A movie like this one is an imaginative fiction, the same as the original Wizard of Oz movie. It is not "promoting" witchcraft any more than it is promoting the idea that animals can talk, even though there are talking animals in it. 3) Real world witchcraft and the occult looks nothing like the make-beleive magic in Wicked. There are no spiritual/demonic forces in Wicked.
So, at the end of the day as a Christian, it comes down to whether you think that the Bible condemning the real-world, child-sacrificing cultish practices in the first century is the same thing as prohibiting a Christian from watching a green-skinned character flying a broom in a fantasy movie. Personally, I don't at all. I think there are some reasons for Christians to be cautious about this movie, but none of those reasons have to do with a character being a witch in it. But again, I think each Christians will need to decide that for themselves between them and God. Thanks!
Awesome review, Daniel! Thanks for your persepective.
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching. I appreciate it!
@ thank you for creating! I know what it’s like starting out a channel and your video popped up, so I want to share some love 🫶
Appreciate it!
I found your channel through Underdog Theology. The main problem with Wicked the movie is that they only released one part this year and will release the second part next year, so people who aren't familiar with the whole story aren't getting the nuances of the story. There is a heavy fascist element in the movie, and the main group being oppressed are the Animals (who can speak) with the Wicked Witch being labeled at evil because she stands against the government. As the wizard says, "The best way to unite a group is to give them a common enemy." Let's just say that the bad guy is not the ones you'd expect, but not because the morality is flawed but because people are sinful.
As a Christian parent, I think there are many elements in the movie worth discussing with our children. Discrimination and oppression. Bullying. Standing up for yourself and others. Civil disobedience. Friendship. Loyalty. Perception of different people and groups. Silencing of victims. Justice. If you have children who are easily scared, I would stop the movie after the "One Short Day" song and save the Wizard encounter for when they're older (which cuts out all of the witchcraft stuff and the scary animals too).
I watched today and it was all good after, I started to see how they are trying to paint evil as good and good ( the white princes) as bad and clumsy, not to mention the espiritual part where she is reading that book that looks like guija itself, and starts saying something 😅😅😅that I couldn’t understand but I’m sure there is something wrong with that too, and as you mention the message that Disney has been given in all their live action movies about “inclusion” the movie lack of content and deepness into the characters life, a bit frustrated to be honest
Yeah, I think it probably works better on more basic level of "fun and colorful visuals and catchy songs" than it does if you get into the specific details, and may also depend how much wider cultural issues or baggage you bring with you into watching it. It's definitely not a deep movie, but I also wasn't really expecting it to be, so that didn't bother me as much. But I can see people frustrated or wanting more from it.
Watch a Wicked "slime tutorial" on youtube (a bootleg) to get the whole story of Wicked. There are many deep themes beyond "evil is good." The good witch calls out one of those themes from the beginning- "Are people born wicked or do they have wickedness thrust upon them?"
Gladiator next! Great videos btw
Thank you! I’ll have a review for Gladiator out tomorrow afternoon, but I thought it was good!
In your opinion Is it ok for kids? My daughter is 8 and really wants to see it .
I'm always a bit nervous to answer this question since all kids are different, but I think it would probably be okay for her. I have two 9 year old sons and they'd both be completely fine with it. There's one scene that's maybe a bit intense (when Elphaba reads from a spell book to magically give the monkeys their wings), but its really not too bad.
@ ok thank you !