This is a long video! Use these timestamps to skip to another section. 00:36 Deck 02:09 Wheels 03:28 Trucks 06:20 ESC 06:57 Remote 09:04 Drive system 10:10 Battery 10:32 Torque 12:12 Speed 13:22 Brakes 14:22 Portability 15:28 Water resistance 16:30 Crime scene 17:13 Aesthetics 18:09 Range test 19:06 Check your nuts 19:46 Because it's dangerous 20:42 Ten percent 21:27 Not paying attention 21:41 Range result 22:25 Final thoughts 23:55 Thank you to supporters - Use discount code 'dkwan' at backfireboard.com for the biggest discount on the Ranger X2. If you use my discount code, get your free stickers at dkwan.com/freestickers.
Im really considering getting a LaCroix board because it has a 50 mile range and can do almost 40mph.. would you be able to try and get one and do a review, it's hella expensive but the range, pneumatic tires and the speed seems worth the $3499.99 asking price..
Hey Daniel, have you noticed a rattling noise from the front left or right of the board? It rides fine but that sound is driving me nuts. Feels like something is lose. Any thoughts? Bearings? It’s brand new.
Zx7o I bought a lacroix board. It’s worth every penny, but man that’s a lot of pennies😂 I had to sell for financial reasons, but it’s a really good company, which often gets overlooked in these reviews. I’m probably gonna get a $1000 board soon, either this or the ownboard.
Lol when he says that it replayed in my head all day today on my first real big day of riding my new Ranger X2 today in the dead of a Canadian winter. I'm 230 pounds, but surprisingly the board held it's own vs my Bamboo GTR. The battery gauge indeed really sucks vs Evolve's comtroller.
Hi Daniel, i have an explanation/solution for your speed wobbling issues with double Kingpin trucks. It happens to you because of the way you put the front foot in the board, it's not centered but right-sided, not covering all the board surface and forcing you to put your weight on your fingers to maintain it straight. so, having it placed at the right makes you turn right way easier BUT, when turning left your front foot can't help because it's not covering the left side of the board, that makes you turn mostly with your back foot. When you use the back to turn that's exactly what gives you unstability, and you can notice it with double kingpin trucks because they turn way more than reverse kingpins needing to control it better. If you place the front foot using all the wideness of the deck and placing your fingers at the left end and your toe at the right end, you will at first feel strange because the way you are used to ride, but soon you will notice you can handle the board much better and make turns more naturally. Just don't skip this advice. It will truly help you and i hope you take it into consideration. Thanks for your channel, you are the eSk8's jeremy clarkson!!
So my Ranger X2 arrived. I tried it for the first time today and wow man it’s incredible for city riding on wet roads. It gave me a high level of confidence, wasn’t worried about bumps on the road and it is incredibly smooth. The best part is how quiet it is. Damn man I’m used to some loud boards with Boosted, this thing is silent.
matt green for me that’s super fast enough. I guess if you want faster another board would be better. I like that it’s so quiet too. There’s so many cool boards out there that I’d love to have but cost a ton
I ended up buying the Backfire Ranger X2 with your code and it arrived yesterday! Your videos are bad ass and totally sold me. Super detailed and the road trips are even better. Looking forward to more videos and trips.
@@stephaniechen7930 It's still perfect. I had to put some harder bushings on it to make it a bit more stable, but I've never ridden a more comfortable board. I have a few different boards now and I still prefer the Ranger X2 when I want to cruise on the lake - the hub motors are so quiet and smooth and it has no problem hitting the dirt/grass. On average I get about 15 miles of range pushing it pretty hard. Definitely a thumbs up!
Great video and I love my x2. Just finished my first repair after cracking the deck. I put it together with looser trucks so hope I can manage the wobble.
With regards to the DKP trucks, on my X1 it took me about 3 different bushing configs until it carved right, so I definitely recommend changing the stock bushings. The problem with the stock setup is much like Dan described - too twitchy and not confidence inspiring at speed or during deep carves. Now I have them dialed-in I can do high speed carves which hold their line and it feels absolutely amazing, so I HIGHLY recommend playing with your bushings and don't be afraid to try different configs.
That makes no sense. You don’t need dkp for high speed carves. You could be running rkp as tight as you can get them and at high speed you will still be able to carve easily as hard as you want. At speed you don’t need gimmicks to turn, the slightest movement and you’re turning a lot. Now at slow speeds (10 mph or so) this is where dkp comes into play and gives you much more ability than rkp, NOT AT SPEED. At speed it makes zero difference, dkp will only give you an easier time wiping out lol. And if you’re manipulating your dkp bushings to where they’re “stable at speed” then you essentially are losing some of what makes them great at slow speeds, which again makes no sense.
@@gonzoschmalanzo3066 that's a lot of words to say you didn't understand what I wrote. I never said you NEED dkp for high speed carves, I said its possible to achieve this with the right config (of course keeping low speed carvability, otherwise whats the point of dkp).
"This is fast and dangerous so you need to exit." This is what I hear from security guards all the time here in Shenzhen as well while they just let electric scooters blast through crowds all the time. Which one is more "dangerous and faster?" lol Great review as always. Thanks!
Hi Daniel. After riding both boards (Wowgo AT 2 and the Backfire Ranger X2) which one would you recommend? What about the Ranger X3? Thanks. SurfNorth.
Great video review, pretty much exactly how feel I about my X2 except I might be a bigger fan of the double-kingpin trucks because I really like them a LOT. There is a slight learning curve to getting comfortable with them but I really like Backfire's implementation, and I appreciated this reviews detailed look. Something I love about the X2 is the sheer *comfort* level of the ride experience overall, and also how incredibly confident I feel while riding it even at high speeds and going on and off road at will!
Final thoughts was the icing on the cake; you spoke naturally and honestly..keep up the good work! Also Backfire G3 has stirred my interest and made me raise an eyebrow..I now await more final thoughts..
Been riding mines for two weeks already. Waaaay better and more affordable than Evolve GT. I Have an evolve Carbon GT. Love the hubs vs the belts system on the Backfire.
I really like your review of this board! I think it's sad that this security guard send you off, because this bike trails look really nice! Fortunately you didn't get a fine. I think we all should unite to make eskating more popular and to stand for our right to eskate. Every personal electric vehicle is better than a typical combustion engine car in many ways. (pollution, traffic, parking space, safety for pedestrians, ...)
Hey DK, just wanted to share that your discount code 'DKWAN' does not work on the BackfireUSA website. I want to support your channel and use the affiliate code, however I am unable to do so :(
I hope to see 1 day a 4x4, very powerful for slopes, IP68, all full powerful LED lights, handlebar with all buttons, less than 15kg and range on battery removable more than 45km, app so I can block the speed to max 20km/h (my very secured standard country). That will be in the standard of my country with snow etc so I can use it. Thanks if you know something like this.
it works, check channel called PRESS RESET. But I wouldnt recommend it, as the hubs arent designed to go in turbo forever, so there is a chance of overheating
Love your reviews, I've been riding a year now so I'm still a noob, but I think you missing the point of turbo. If got a G2T. The down side of hub motors is cooling. If you could ride in turbo all the time I'm pretty sure the right rider in the right spot could melt the motors. That's why the 30 second cool down period is needed too. So in turbo torque it's max, speed is not software limited. Take that board to max speed in sport mode with a fresh charge, then hit turbo. Maybe that will change your might about turbo. For me sport mode what I ride in and is more than I can do anyway so turbo it's Overkill. Love your reviews Keep it up
On the RX2 the top speed is still capped at 35 km/h in turbo. That’s fine for me. My main complaint is turbo’s implementation. For example the 30 seconds cool down thing - what if I only use turbo for 5 seconds? Still have to wait 30 seconds to use it again. And other annoyances. The way it’s implemented just makes it very inconvenient to use.
DK's review only briefly talked about some of my biggest issues with the board: 1. The remote switches too easily between forward and reverse, which causes people to get thrown off if they're not careful (or haven't taped the switch in place). DK experienced that in the video. 2. The turbo mode shuts off without any warning, such as a countdown or a vibration to notify the rider that turbo mode will shut off in three seconds. Between this issue and the fact that you can't engage Turbo without letting off the throttle makes turbo more trouble than it's worth. 3. The remote sends low battery notifications (via vibration) kinda of early and a bit too often. Somewhat annoying, but I wonder if this is by design to encourage riders not to ride till empty and thus preserve battery life. 4. Rolling resistance is very high which makes it difficult to push manually. Personally, I find this a bit annoying because I like to do a little push start to conserve battery life and get my center of balance established as I start to move. On my other esk8 with a hub motor and PU wheels I have to apply the brakes on one of the hills along my commute, but the X2 goes down the same hill so slowly that I'll actually apply some gas instead. 5. The board's max speed is kinda slow. Personally think that it'd be better off with a slightly higher top speed as a third speed mode using the S/E button. 6. The ESC gets pretty hot. This is probably to be expected since it's an AT board and it's cooling options are limited. However, it does make me wonder about the board's durability. I guess time will tell. 7. Overall water resistance is questionable. Other riders on Reddit have noted that their remotes stopped working for a few days after it got wet, so it makes me wonder if Backfire skimped on waterproofing the remote's internal components. 8. Riding through bad terrain reduces your speed drastically. While this is to be expected, I didn't think it'd reduce it down to about 40% of the board's max speed on asphalt. Given how the ESC throttles the board's speed at lower battery levels, I'd be hesitant to take this out for any extended ride on rough terrain. Just keep this in mind if you're considering the board for riding on mtb trails, which is probably a bag idea because the board lacks any real suspension. 9. There's very little information on how to optimize the board's double king pin trucks (DKP). Although Backfire advises not to adjust the trucks, that's not reasonable as riders of different weight and skills require different settings. I'll probably swap out the board side bushings for something a bit harder and maybe barrel shaped. One annoyance with the DKP is that a standard skate tool cannot adjust the boardside bolt, so you also need to carry a small wrench with you during your first rides as you dial in your ride. Other than those issues, DK's review is super thorough and addresses about every topic. All that being said, the board is absolutely fantastic. It handles all the rough roads along my commute well and it amazingly even handles train tracks that'd otherwise throw me off my other esk8. The ride is super buttery and a lot less taxing on your feet. The brakes perform very well and can take you from top speed to a stop in about half the distance that my other board requires, which makes it a safer ride for commuting through traffic where cars will try to cut you off.
I just got mine days ago. I found the ESC got pretty hot too. Even the battery case is hot too. And for the speed mode, I can only use S mode. On E mode the brake is too weak. BTW it's good board. One thing I dont like is the light, I cant mount the light to the base they offer. I cant pull it to the end and get locked.
@@puluzusa467 If you want to keep the ESC cooler, you can stick a bunch of small heat sink fins with thermal glue. I ride G2T on turbo all the time with older remote and did just that to help dissipate heat better. Can't say by how much, but they get pretty warm so I like it.
Hi Daniel since you know so much about backfire boards i wanted to ask you, i got the g2s and brought the g2t motors for it. but i have slow acceleration and bad brakes, do i need to upgrade my esc also ? ore is it my battery that's bad ? my board is around a year old. btw wery good video about the ranger :)
So not get city rider, I got both of the board, the city rider is no where close to ranger x 2 experience, the brakes are inaccurate strong and sudden and its very heavy to carry around even just for a short time, they changed the Hobby wing esc to Ling yi esc, so far on other board is good but not on city rider
Haha same here, Ownboard looks badass, I love the looks and sound of the belt drive, with cloudwheels it should be great for city riding. I like the Ranger X2 remote and hub motors but I'm not a big fan of the bare looks. Have you decided which one to get?
Any idea about where to get good bearings for X2? My original bearings front and back have given up already, and I do not want to use the same bearings again. Sizes are: 1614 and 6906
Ik is a dumb question but where does the light go that comes with it? The red T on the board seems to be the front but it seems the light should be on front
That security guard popping up at the end like, "hol up a minute" makes me wonder why these Esk8s specifically are targeted there but bicycles and the fucking moped scooter things are allowed.
You should cover the raldey carbon at v2. I have it and the brakes are super strong and I'm above 260lb. Not sure if you have v1 or v2 but for me it'll violently stop me if I floor the brakes
8:12 someone has probably pointed this out already, but using a different remote will let you just set "turbo" as a speed mode. I feel certain that Backfire does not recommend this as a means of conserving battery and motor life... but... you know.
Hard to hold remote with pucks on the glove.with my Blink S2. So remote must be better. I'm looking into it all terrain hybrid board. For mushing my Husky off road... Currently we stay on the bike trail boardwalk. And street... Working on my video editing of that...
Hey Daniel, I watched TONS of your videos now and I love your channel! As you tried many boards, I would like your opinion! I would like to know what all terrain board you preferred? I want to get an all terrain and take it to a hard sand beaches. I think the belt motors like evolve are not really made for that and that the backfire Ranger X2 might be a better choice. What do you think? Thanks for your channel and videos! I love it man!!
Yes the hub motor wheels should be far less likely to get sand in the drive system. But be aware that Ranger’s wheels are relatively thin, so they might dig into the sand more easily than say wider pneumatic tires.
@@DanielKwan : Thanks Daniel, you rock! Good to know! Is it possible to put bigger wheels? What AT would you best recommend? It would be awesome to have a Best AT board 2019 video!
Gone Adventuring Can’t really change wheels on Ranger, at least not the back wheels. As for AT recommendations for riding on sand... Maybe a OneWheel? Haha
@@DanielKwan this was helpful thanks for your reply. I will definitely buy a board using your discount codes! For Bangkok city roads, do you have any recommendations for a board and the wheels?
Ho Daniel, I bought the G2T way back when thanks to your advice. Now I need your advice again :D Between the Ranger X2 or Ownboard Bamboo GT (maybe get the Evolve 6" kit later too for it), what would you recommend? I loved my G2T but really need something for rough country roads and cobblestones somtimes. I'm veering towards the Ownboard as the cloudwheels seems a great mix beween street and AT wheels, then I've got the option to add EVolve pneumatics to it too. Anything I'm missing? Build quality on my G2T was amazing, but I've never seen an Ownboard so cant compare. Many thanks man for all your work!
I had tightened the trucks because at a higher speed it does wobble because of the sensitive nature of the turning ratio.I don't feel comfortable going fast on this board unless the trucks are tightened.It does make it harder to do sharper turns but I'm a noob,this is my very first board and I bought it because of your review.I am getting better at higher speeds and carving but carving at a higher speed or even standing straight at higher speeds is tougher with the truck set by the factory.The board does wobble but that also might be my lack of experience.I am used to the way a snowboard reacts and this is way different and slamming on pavement at a high speed will hurt like hell vs sliding on snow.
To prevent speed wobbles make sure your putting more of your weight on the front of the board. That being said, be sure to shift your weight back a bit before braking so you don't fly off. Highly recommend wearing a helmet and if you're risk averse consider getting a motorcycle hoodie that has built-in pads for your elbows, shoulders, and spine, but looks like a normal hoodie.
@@jleebadger I do lean forward when stopping and I am shifting my front foot more forward for stability.I am also wearing a full face helmet and I bought motorcycle knee and elbow pads.The pads are pretty good but not the best on the market.I also ordered wrist guards.Thank you for the tips.Spin guard would help.I have these padded shorts that I wear snowboarding but they don't have a spin protector
Hey daniel! I received my x2 last saturday and put 200kms on it already. Really love every aspect even the doublekingpin . I used your code and wanted to know how i can get grip on the dkwan stickers. Would love to put some on my deck...
Raldey Carbon AT... Wheels touch the feet. Deck too stiff and short for an AT Board. Remote too slippery to hold especially with gloves. I can’t recommend it but if/when they release the same board with a bamboo deck and a much better remote, it should be worth considering.
Dude I want to start my own Eskate channel. I already have a bunch of videos on the topic. Which camera did you use this time ?? Your content just keeps getting better and better !! I have made my own battery packs & a decks to..
Yo Thanks !! I am in the process of making my own Eskate company & already have made a Website ( not Live yet ) & Already talked with Wowgo & Meepo for parts...
I was thinking about a board like this. I only wonder how easy it would be to pull it around if I needed too or how difficult it may be to put in my car.
The board fits into the trunk and backseat of a Honda Accord. It's a bit bulky and the big wheels make it almost impossible to lean against a wall vertically, but that easily solved by either leaning it on its side horizontally or buying a cheap guitar stand. When walking into my office building I just mall carry it and roll it behind me like a suitcase. Do note that it's got a lot of rolling resistance and you're better off calling Uber if the board dies on you because pushing manually would be pretty miserable.
@@MrPhillipsTheChangeAgent Depends on how much you weigh and whether you have a lot of hills in your area. At 210 lbs I max out my speed at 20mph on flat asphalt.
You’d only see noticeable regen if riding the brakes continuously like when going down a hill, and even then the regen is very little. On level ground it’d be almost nothing. This applies to all eboards. Some regen better than others but still not much.
@@DanielKwan It's exactly what I was wondering during the whole video : "what could be the reason why he seems to enjoy so much more "classic" longboards over Ats" ?
Dang, so disappointed this board sucks on water resistance. I have the Evolve Bamboo GTR and it's an awesome board, but the belt motor is exposed to winter elements like salt residue on the roads etc. I want to get this Backfire Ranger X2 board to handle whatever I throw at it.
Any cons in using third-party silicon to seal the housings for water resistance? I mean, aside from not being able to _hot swap_ the battery? I live in a rainy area.
240 lb person and I got about 11 miles on it. I'm gonna have to do a 12mph cruise and an 18mph cruise test to see how well it actually goes. My g2t lasted 13.5 miles, completely dead, but that was also a full cruise speeds mostly.
Did they fix the reverse switch from the x1? Example, does the x2 go forward when you push the dial forward and does it go backwards when you push the dial backwards?
Hey Daniel, I have the Ranger X1.. I feel like you might not have a better experience with the double king pin trucks if you stand a bit more back with your front foot.. The one thing I think isn't great is that I feel like my range is descreasing bit by bit everytime I ride.. I'm about 70kg and I get around 22-23 km in range.. was hoping for more
Daniel :) Excellent review young man! I have an X1 (very happy with it) and have been thinking about getting the X2 or a ONEWHEEL? (have you ever had a onewheel?) Still on the fence. I do notice that the distance on my remote is often about 1 mile to 1 1/2 miles off from what my ride app says. Any ideas on why that would be?
Graeme Franks In my opinion the most significant upgrade on the X2 is the brakes. If you’re fine with the brakes on the X1, I think I would just keep it! Never tried a onewheel but would like to. As for the range, maybe your remote is not set to 165mm wheels? Not sure.
@@DanielKwan Thanks for the info (great advice). I also contacted backfire and they lead me through resetting my board and remote, so maybe that will solve the issue.
TheKrokomaster it’s easy to do, just hold down the board power button for 5 seconds (until it flashes continuously) then turn on the remote. Once it pairs, it’s reset. Then pick you wheel size.
So... after 2 months of watching you and ronnie , and ur china trip might i add was amazing, i decided to get the ranger 2x. And that code helped keep the pockets from breaking. Thank u for all ur great detailed info..
For a board that cheap, it looks really good. I have a Lacroix board which has a lot more power and range but over 2 and a half times the price. Good video.
I had a street bamboo evolve gt and I sold that for a new backfire ranger x2 and the first time I rode it I fell in love. it was the first all terrain board I'd ever ridden and it's seriously so much smoother than street wheels. all my friends who ride street boards said it was like riding on a cloud
@@cscott4806 They changed the deck on the X1 and X2 now to be stiffer i think but that's about 30-40lbs more than me. I'd suggest you contact their support to figure out if the deck can support you. Though at 250 you're probably better off with a stiff deck.
Disappointment you didn't' threaten to throat punch me in the intro! anyways awesome review as always! :) might get one since we got horrible roads here
Are you sure that the boards speed is controlled by the ESC? I thought it was limited by the motors Max kv rating. I had purchased the previous motors separately for a custom build using a Vesc and a 12s⁴p battery. Turns out it still was limited to about 22mph, witch is not fast enough for me. So could you let us know if the new motors are ESC or Kv speed controlled. Thanks
This is a long video! Use these timestamps to skip to another section.
00:36 Deck
02:09 Wheels
03:28 Trucks
06:20 ESC
06:57 Remote
09:04 Drive system
10:10 Battery
10:32 Torque
12:12 Speed
13:22 Brakes
14:22 Portability
15:28 Water resistance
16:30 Crime scene
17:13 Aesthetics
18:09 Range test
19:06 Check your nuts
19:46 Because it's dangerous
20:42 Ten percent
21:27 Not paying attention
21:41 Range result
22:25 Final thoughts
23:55 Thank you to supporters
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Im really considering getting a LaCroix board because it has a 50 mile range and can do almost 40mph.. would you be able to try and get one and do a review, it's hella expensive but the range, pneumatic tires and the speed seems worth the $3499.99 asking price..
Thanks Daniel for your DOP VIDEOS 😃👍🏻😎
Could you please show us how to calculate the range of any board?:)
Hey , why is your English getting really bad ??
Hey Daniel, have you noticed a rattling noise from the front left or right of the board? It rides fine but that sound is driving me nuts. Feels like something is lose. Any thoughts? Bearings? It’s brand new.
Zx7o I bought a lacroix board. It’s worth every penny, but man that’s a lot of pennies😂
I had to sell for financial reasons, but it’s a really good company, which often gets overlooked in these reviews. I’m probably gonna get a $1000 board soon, either this or the ownboard.
"If you want more torque, lose some weight." 😂😂😂
I’m 110 pounds I get so much torque and range
Heavyweight riders: Am I a joke to u
Haha! Straight up lol. I hired an Asian lady to measure me for a suit and she straight up said “you go on diet, k!?” 😂
Lol when he says that it replayed in my head all day today on my first real big day of riding my new Ranger X2 today in the dead of a Canadian winter. I'm 230 pounds, but surprisingly the board held it's own vs my Bamboo GTR. The battery gauge indeed really sucks vs Evolve's comtroller.
I am trying.
Hi Daniel, i have an explanation/solution for your speed wobbling issues with double Kingpin trucks. It happens to you because of the way you put the front foot in the board, it's not centered but right-sided, not covering all the board surface and forcing you to put your weight on your fingers to maintain it straight. so, having it placed at the right makes you turn right way easier BUT, when turning left your front foot can't help because it's not covering the left side of the board, that makes you turn mostly with your back foot. When you use the back to turn that's exactly what gives you unstability, and you can notice it with double kingpin trucks because they turn way more than reverse kingpins needing to control it better. If you place the front foot using all the wideness of the deck and placing your fingers at the left end and your toe at the right end, you will at first feel strange because the way you are used to ride, but soon you will notice you can handle the board much better and make turns more naturally. Just don't skip this advice. It will truly help you and i hope you take it into consideration.
Thanks for your channel, you are the eSk8's jeremy clarkson!!
My ranger x2 is on the way 😍
how do you like it?
yes, thanks Daniel for this marvelous review. I was really waiting for it.
Hey Daniel, Are you doing a Ranger X3 review?
So my Ranger X2 arrived. I tried it for the first time today and wow man it’s incredible for city riding on wet roads. It gave me a high level of confidence, wasn’t worried about bumps on the road and it is incredibly smooth. The best part is how quiet it is. Damn man I’m used to some loud boards with Boosted, this thing is silent.
Nice, I received mine as well over here in Canada. Super quiet and smooth.
i want one now
How did you find the speed ? I’m stuck between this and the g3 but worried it won’t be quick enough!
Hey rahul, 5 months later how are you liking the ranger x2. Does it still hold up? I just placed my order
Lol love how you highlighted "deck" on back of the infamous "deck" video
What video was that? I've been looking for it.
😂
They should come out with a two person board so I can take my woman on simple joy rides.
Or a fatty like me can then ride up hills properly :-) I weight almost 2 @Daniel Kwan
Tie a wagon to the trucks
They do! It's called another board!! More fun for her😂
I bought one and it’s pretty much everything I have hoped for and more
Tony Aiello how do you find the speed ?
matt green from km/h or mp/h?
Mph I have seen people just getting 20mph
matt green for me that’s super fast enough. I guess if you want faster another board would be better. I like that it’s so quiet too. There’s so many cool boards out there that I’d love to have but cost a ton
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I ended up buying the Backfire Ranger X2 with your code and it arrived yesterday! Your videos are bad ass and totally sold me. Super detailed and the road trips are even better. Looking forward to more videos and trips.
How much did you save
How was your experience w the board Sherif?
@@stephaniechen7930 It's still perfect. I had to put some harder bushings on it to make it a bit more stable, but I've never ridden a more comfortable board. I have a few different boards now and I still prefer the Ranger X2 when I want to cruise on the lake - the hub motors are so quiet and smooth and it has no problem hitting the dirt/grass. On average I get about 15 miles of range pushing it pretty hard. Definitely a thumbs up!
Can't find comparison of ranger x2 VS ownboard carbon AT (or bamboo, no matter). Can someone explain me their main CONS & Pros?
LOL the best part when the officers realise it's too late to kick him out. And he stopped literally at the next lay-by from them. Good job Daniel.
Excellent Video Daniel!
Great video and I love my x2. Just finished my first repair after cracking the deck. I put it together with looser trucks so hope I can manage the wobble.
Good video.. enjoyed this while drinking my morning latte. Now to work 😜
With regards to the DKP trucks, on my X1 it took me about 3 different bushing configs until it carved right, so I definitely recommend changing the stock bushings. The problem with the stock setup is much like Dan described - too twitchy and not confidence inspiring at speed or during deep carves. Now I have them dialed-in I can do high speed carves which hold their line and it feels absolutely amazing, so I HIGHLY recommend playing with your bushings and don't be afraid to try different configs.
That makes no sense. You don’t need dkp for high speed carves. You could be running rkp as tight as you can get them and at high speed you will still be able to carve easily as hard as you want. At speed you don’t need gimmicks to turn, the slightest movement and you’re turning a lot. Now at slow speeds (10 mph or so) this is where dkp comes into play and gives you much more ability than rkp, NOT AT SPEED. At speed it makes zero difference, dkp will only give you an easier time wiping out lol. And if you’re manipulating your dkp bushings to where they’re “stable at speed” then you essentially are losing some of what makes them great at slow speeds, which again makes no sense.
@@gonzoschmalanzo3066 that's a lot of words to say you didn't understand what I wrote. I never said you NEED dkp for high speed carves, I said its possible to achieve this with the right config (of course keeping low speed carvability, otherwise whats the point of dkp).
"This is fast and dangerous so you need to exit." This is what I hear from security guards all the time here in Shenzhen as well while they just let electric scooters blast through crowds all the time. Which one is more "dangerous and faster?" lol Great review as always. Thanks!
Hi Daniel. After riding both boards (Wowgo AT 2 and the Backfire Ranger X2) which one would you recommend? What about the Ranger X3?
Thanks. SurfNorth.
I love my double king pin compared to all my others, but I run pneumatics and love carving and skidding out when off-road
Great video review, pretty much exactly how feel I about my X2 except I might be a bigger fan of the double-kingpin trucks because I really like them a LOT. There is a slight learning curve to getting comfortable with them but I really like Backfire's implementation, and I appreciated this reviews detailed look. Something I love about the X2 is the sheer *comfort* level of the ride experience overall, and also how incredibly confident I feel while riding it even at high speeds and going on and off road at will!
It would be nice if the remote vibrated once turbo was available again.
bro where do you live ? those bike path and some of the views you shot were beautifull, i really enjoyed it :)
Shanghai
Final thoughts was the icing on the cake; you spoke naturally and honestly..keep up the good work! Also Backfire G3 has stirred my interest and made me raise an eyebrow..I now await more final thoughts..
Been riding mines for two weeks already. Waaaay better and more affordable than Evolve GT. I Have an evolve Carbon GT. Love the hubs vs the belts system on the Backfire.
I really like your review of this board! I think it's sad that this security guard send you off, because this bike trails look really nice! Fortunately you didn't get a fine. I think we all should unite to make eskating more popular and to stand for our right to eskate. Every personal electric vehicle is better than a typical combustion engine car in many ways. (pollution, traffic, parking space, safety for pedestrians, ...)
Hey DK, just wanted to share that your discount code 'DKWAN' does not work on the BackfireUSA website. I want to support your channel and use the affiliate code, however I am unable to do so :(
You can order from backfireboards.com and use the code there instead, the board will ship from the same warehouse. Thanks :)
I hope to see 1 day a 4x4, very powerful for slopes, IP68, all full powerful LED lights, handlebar with all buttons, less than 15kg and range on battery removable more than 45km, app so I can block the speed to max 20km/h (my very secured standard country). That will be in the standard of my country with snow etc so I can use it. Thanks if you know something like this.
What’s up you beautiful basterds!
Thanks for the excellent and detailed review! I'm about to finally buy one after looking at a bunch of other AT boards.
Have you tried pairing it with the wowgo3 hobbywing remote? Let us know if it allows you to ride on turbo endlessly 😂
agreed. lets get this answered. My belief is... YES.
@@pedxing I've seen this on someone else's channel before but they just briefly mentioned it. If it works I'm so getting the X2 😂
it works, check channel called PRESS RESET. But I wouldnt recommend it, as the hubs arent designed to go in turbo forever, so there is a chance of overheating
Love your reviews, I've been riding a year now so I'm still a noob, but I think you missing the point of turbo.
If got a G2T.
The down side of hub motors is cooling. If you could ride in turbo all the time I'm pretty sure the right rider in the right spot could melt the motors.
That's why the 30 second cool down period is needed too.
So in turbo torque it's max, speed is not software limited.
Take that board to max speed in sport mode with a fresh charge, then hit turbo. Maybe that will change your might about turbo.
For me sport mode what I ride in and is more than I can do anyway so turbo it's Overkill.
Love your reviews
Keep it up
On the RX2 the top speed is still capped at 35 km/h in turbo. That’s fine for me. My main complaint is turbo’s implementation. For example the 30 seconds cool down thing - what if I only use turbo for 5 seconds? Still have to wait 30 seconds to use it again. And other annoyances. The way it’s implemented just makes it very inconvenient to use.
@@DanielKwan What is the top speed in Sport mode?
DK's review only briefly talked about some of my biggest issues with the board:
1. The remote switches too easily between forward and reverse, which causes people to get thrown off if they're not careful (or haven't taped the switch in place). DK experienced that in the video.
2. The turbo mode shuts off without any warning, such as a countdown or a vibration to notify the rider that turbo mode will shut off in three seconds. Between this issue and the fact that you can't engage Turbo without letting off the throttle makes turbo more trouble than it's worth.
3. The remote sends low battery notifications (via vibration) kinda of early and a bit too often. Somewhat annoying, but I wonder if this is by design to encourage riders not to ride till empty and thus preserve battery life.
4. Rolling resistance is very high which makes it difficult to push manually. Personally, I find this a bit annoying because I like to do a little push start to conserve battery life and get my center of balance established as I start to move. On my other esk8 with a hub motor and PU wheels I have to apply the brakes on one of the hills along my commute, but the X2 goes down the same hill so slowly that I'll actually apply some gas instead.
5. The board's max speed is kinda slow. Personally think that it'd be better off with a slightly higher top speed as a third speed mode using the S/E button.
6. The ESC gets pretty hot. This is probably to be expected since it's an AT board and it's cooling options are limited. However, it does make me wonder about the board's durability. I guess time will tell.
7. Overall water resistance is questionable. Other riders on Reddit have noted that their remotes stopped working for a few days after it got wet, so it makes me wonder if Backfire skimped on waterproofing the remote's internal components.
8. Riding through bad terrain reduces your speed drastically. While this is to be expected, I didn't think it'd reduce it down to about 40% of the board's max speed on asphalt. Given how the ESC throttles the board's speed at lower battery levels, I'd be hesitant to take this out for any extended ride on rough terrain. Just keep this in mind if you're considering the board for riding on mtb trails, which is probably a bag idea because the board lacks any real suspension.
9. There's very little information on how to optimize the board's double king pin trucks (DKP). Although Backfire advises not to adjust the trucks, that's not reasonable as riders of different weight and skills require different settings. I'll probably swap out the board side bushings for something a bit harder and maybe barrel shaped. One annoyance with the DKP is that a standard skate tool cannot adjust the boardside bolt, so you also need to carry a small wrench with you during your first rides as you dial in your ride.
Other than those issues, DK's review is super thorough and addresses about every topic.
All that being said, the board is absolutely fantastic. It handles all the rough roads along my commute well and it amazingly even handles train tracks that'd otherwise throw me off my other esk8. The ride is super buttery and a lot less taxing on your feet. The brakes perform very well and can take you from top speed to a stop in about half the distance that my other board requires, which makes it a safer ride for commuting through traffic where cars will try to cut you off.
I just got mine days ago. I found the ESC got pretty hot too. Even the battery case is hot too. And for the speed mode, I can only use S mode. On E mode the brake is too weak. BTW it's good board. One thing I dont like is the light, I cant mount the light to the base they offer. I cant pull it to the end and get locked.
@@puluzusa467 the light may not click into place or anything, but it doesn't really go anywhere if it's slid all the way on.
@@puluzusa467 If you want to keep the ESC cooler, you can stick a bunch of small heat sink fins with thermal glue. I ride G2T on turbo all the time with older remote and did just that to help dissipate heat better. Can't say by how much, but they get pretty warm so I like it.
Hi Daniel since you know so much about backfire boards i wanted to ask you, i got the g2s and brought the g2t motors for it. but i have slow acceleration and bad brakes, do i need to upgrade my esc also ? ore is it my battery that's bad ? my board is around a year old. btw wery good video about the ranger :)
you need the g2t esc upgrade too.
Yes you’d need the G2T’s ESC.
@@DanielKwan thank you for your response :) i will order the esc to
could you please do a review on the meepo City rider? I was curious to know if you could somewhat off road with it
So not get city rider, I got both of the board, the city rider is no where close to ranger x 2 experience, the brakes are inaccurate strong and sudden and its very heavy to carry around even just for a short time, they changed the Hobby wing esc to Ling yi esc, so far on other board is good but not on city rider
I am trying to decide between the Ranger x2, and the Ownboard Carbon AT. Any information or suggestions on which I should get?
I address that in the final section of this video ;)
Haha same here, Ownboard looks badass, I love the looks and sound of the belt drive, with cloudwheels it should be great for city riding. I like the Ranger X2 remote and hub motors but I'm not a big fan of the bare looks. Have you decided which one to get?
Any idea about where to get good bearings for X2?
My original bearings front and back have given up already, and I do not want to use the same bearings again. Sizes are: 1614 and 6906
Thanks Daniel for your DOP VIDEOS 😃👍🏻😎
Could you please show us how to calculate the range of any board?:)
im not into double king pin either :/
Ik is a dumb question but where does the light go that comes with it? The red T on the board seems to be the front but it seems the light should be on front
Will you review the ranger x3?
That security guard popping up at the end like, "hol up a minute" makes me wonder why these Esk8s specifically are targeted there but bicycles and the fucking moped scooter things are allowed.
You should cover the raldey carbon at v2. I have it and the brakes are super strong and I'm above 260lb. Not sure if you have v1 or v2 but for me it'll violently stop me if I floor the brakes
What electric longboard would you recommend for really going off road?
Suck that turbo mode drops after 20sec while in that mode I wish it didn’t like on the others g3 stays in turbo without dropping down
8:12 someone has probably pointed this out already, but using a different remote will let you just set "turbo" as a speed mode. I feel certain that Backfire does not recommend this as a means of conserving battery and motor life... but... you know.
Aldous Yelxuh Probably fine for me since I don’t stay in full throttle most of the time.
Hard to hold remote with pucks on the glove.with my Blink S2. So remote must be better.
I'm looking into it all terrain hybrid board. For mushing my Husky off road... Currently we stay on the bike trail boardwalk. And street... Working on my video editing of that...
I have the backfire g3 and love it but roads suck everywhere. Would this ranger x2 be a more significant comfortable ride to upgrade too?
Hey Daniel,
I watched TONS of your videos now and I love your channel!
As you tried many boards, I would like your opinion!
I would like to know what all terrain board you preferred? I want to get an all terrain and take it to a hard sand beaches. I think the belt motors like evolve are not really made for that and that the backfire Ranger X2 might be a better choice. What do you think? Thanks for your channel and videos! I love it man!!
Yes the hub motor wheels should be far less likely to get sand in the drive system. But be aware that Ranger’s wheels are relatively thin, so they might dig into the sand more easily than say wider pneumatic tires.
@@DanielKwan : Thanks Daniel, you rock! Good to know! Is it possible to put bigger wheels? What AT would you best recommend? It would be awesome to have a Best AT board 2019 video!
Gone Adventuring Can’t really change wheels on Ranger, at least not the back wheels. As for AT recommendations for riding on sand... Maybe a OneWheel? Haha
hi Daniel.. I'm 170 kg .. can you tell me which product is good for me ? ( btw, thx for your awesome videos)
I think philip DeFranco owns that intro :p
Daniel how did you take it to Thailand? Could you took it with you in the cabin in the plane?
They had to be shipped separately. Can’t take batteries > 160Wh on a passenger plane.
@@DanielKwan this was helpful thanks for your reply. I will definitely buy a board using your discount codes! For Bangkok city roads, do you have any recommendations for a board and the wheels?
Ho Daniel, I bought the G2T way back when thanks to your advice. Now I need your advice again :D
Between the Ranger X2 or Ownboard Bamboo GT (maybe get the Evolve 6" kit later too for it), what would you recommend? I loved my G2T but really need something for rough country roads and cobblestones somtimes.
I'm veering towards the Ownboard as the cloudwheels seems a great mix beween street and AT wheels, then I've got the option to add EVolve pneumatics to it too. Anything I'm missing? Build quality on my G2T was amazing, but I've never seen an Ownboard so cant compare.
Many thanks man for all your work!
I had tightened the trucks because at a higher speed it does wobble because of the sensitive nature of the turning ratio.I don't feel comfortable going fast on this board unless the trucks are tightened.It does make it harder to do sharper turns but I'm a noob,this is my very first board and I bought it because of your review.I am getting better at higher speeds and carving but carving at a higher speed or even standing straight at higher speeds is tougher with the truck set by the factory.The board does wobble but that also might be my lack of experience.I am used to the way a snowboard reacts and this is way different and slamming on pavement at a high speed will hurt like hell vs sliding on snow.
To prevent speed wobbles make sure your putting more of your weight on the front of the board. That being said, be sure to shift your weight back a bit before braking so you don't fly off.
Highly recommend wearing a helmet and if you're risk averse consider getting a motorcycle hoodie that has built-in pads for your elbows, shoulders, and spine, but looks like a normal hoodie.
@@jleebadger I do lean forward when stopping and I am shifting my front foot more forward for stability.I am also wearing a full face helmet and I bought motorcycle knee and elbow pads.The pads are pretty good but not the best on the market.I also ordered wrist guards.Thank you for the tips.Spin guard would help.I have these padded shorts that I wear snowboarding but they don't have a spin protector
Does anyone know what the first song is? I cannot find it from the link in the description :(
Where is this filmed? Looks like a great place to ride !!!!
Shanghai on the Pudong side
Hey Daniel! How long were you riding around before it had died? If you remember, just bought this because of you :) hope you se this!
It’s still alive
Hey daniel! I received my x2 last saturday and put 200kms on it already. Really love every aspect even the doublekingpin . I used your code and wanted to know how i can get grip on the dkwan stickers. Would love to put some on my deck...
Feltric Garmond hey fill out the form at dkwan.com/freestickers. I’ll send you stickers with the next batch!
Great video, great review! I know they are 2 completely different boards but which should I get Ranger X2 or Exway Pro Riot?
both 😁
Maybe consider if you need portability more or all-terrain more
Daniel Kwan wish that was an option right now, limited to ☝️but will most likely end up with both some day 😁
Daniel Kwan what about the Ranger X2 and the Own Board Bamboo AT?
Depends which wheels option you’re considering for the Ownboard. See my newest video :)
Phillip Defranco is that you?
"do you want some torque? lose weight", words to live by, lol
Hi love your vids n info thank you. Tried to use your discount code when purchasing and exway flex riot and it did not work
It works when I tried just now.
Just got mine and I love it but I had the same issue with the bolt/washer loose that rattles. Thanks for the code DK
Same. Just apply some blue loctite and tighten them. The loctite will prevent this from happening in the future.
Now compare with Raldey carbon AT
Raldey Carbon AT... Wheels touch the feet. Deck too stiff and short for an AT Board. Remote too slippery to hold especially with gloves. I can’t recommend it but if/when they release the same board with a bamboo deck and a much better remote, it should be worth considering.
Dude I want to start my own Eskate channel. I already have a bunch of videos on the topic. Which camera did you use this time ?? Your content just keeps getting better and better !!
I have made my own battery packs & a decks to..
NeX Tech Projects All the action and talking shots were Yi 4K+. The slow motion b-roll stuff were other cameras listed in the description.
Yo Thanks !! I am in the process of making my own Eskate company & already have made a Website ( not Live yet ) & Already talked with Wowgo & Meepo for parts...
I was thinking about a board like this. I only wonder how easy it would be to pull it around if I needed too or how difficult it may be to put in my car.
The board fits into the trunk and backseat of a Honda Accord. It's a bit bulky and the big wheels make it almost impossible to lean against a wall vertically, but that easily solved by either leaning it on its side horizontally or buying a cheap guitar stand. When walking into my office building I just mall carry it and roll it behind me like a suitcase. Do note that it's got a lot of rolling resistance and you're better off calling Uber if the board dies on you because pushing manually would be pretty miserable.
jleebadger ok thanks for that feedback. Trying to decide between this or a belt driven board.
@@MrPhillipsTheChangeAgent Depends on how much you weigh and whether you have a lot of hills in your area. At 210 lbs I max out my speed at 20mph on flat asphalt.
Lol if you want more tort, lose some weight. 😂 #savage
how manny people can ride in a group?
What Ride App? I have a BAckfire G3 and cant find an app
11:55 - The heavier you are the worse it performs, Dog!
Any thoughts on the "Regenerative Braking"? Have you tested if it makes a difference on battery life?
You’d only see noticeable regen if riding the brakes continuously like when going down a hill, and even then the regen is very little. On level ground it’d be almost nothing. This applies to all eboards. Some regen better than others but still not much.
It look like you have zero fun with this board compare with wwowgo3X exway riot ;)
Haha I definitely enjoy those more. Need an AT board for rough terrain though.
@@DanielKwan It's exactly what I was wondering during the whole video : "what could be the reason why he seems to enjoy so much more "classic" longboards over Ats" ?
Dang, so disappointed this board sucks on water resistance. I have the Evolve Bamboo GTR and it's an awesome board, but the belt motor is exposed to winter elements like salt residue on the roads etc. I want to get this Backfire Ranger X2 board to handle whatever I throw at it.
Backfire Ranger x2 vs Ownboard AT in your opinion?
Any cons in using third-party silicon to seal the housings for water resistance? I mean, aside from not being able to _hot swap_ the battery? I live in a rainy area.
Hi Daniel, can you do a review on the X3?
240 lb person and I got about 11 miles on it. I'm gonna have to do a 12mph cruise and an 18mph cruise test to see how well it actually goes. My g2t lasted 13.5 miles, completely dead, but that was also a full cruise speeds mostly.
Why don't you like riding on grass? lol
Nice shoes！
Max Huang brand of shoes are those. They look pimp
It's dangerous! Hit the notification bell :-)
Did they fix the reverse switch from the x1? Example, does the x2 go forward when you push the dial forward and does it go backwards when you push the dial backwards?
Hey Daniel, I have the Ranger X1.. I feel like you might not have a better experience with the double king pin trucks if you stand a bit more back with your front foot.. The one thing I think isn't great is that I feel like my range is descreasing bit by bit everytime I ride.. I'm about 70kg and I get around 22-23 km in range.. was hoping for more
Daniel :) Excellent review young man! I have an X1 (very happy with it) and have been thinking about getting the X2 or a ONEWHEEL? (have you ever had a onewheel?) Still on the fence. I do notice that the distance on my remote is often about 1 mile to 1 1/2 miles off from what my ride app says. Any ideas on why that would be?
Graeme Franks In my opinion the most significant upgrade on the X2 is the brakes. If you’re fine with the brakes on the X1, I think I would just keep it! Never tried a onewheel but would like to. As for the range, maybe your remote is not set to 165mm wheels? Not sure.
@@DanielKwan Thanks for the info (great advice). I also contacted backfire and they lead me through resetting my board and remote, so maybe that will solve the issue.
@@gfranks007 Id sure like to know how to reset it, didnt know of the possibility
TheKrokomaster it’s easy to do, just hold down the board power button for 5 seconds (until it flashes continuously) then turn on the remote. Once it pairs, it’s reset. Then pick you wheel size.
@@gfranks007 oh just that, thanks much!
How often do you get wobbles on double king pin? I don’t see why manufactures keep upgrading the motors when you can’t safely go that fast.
First thought that the “T” thing was the skate tool, they missed a trick there, they could’ve incorporated a holder on the board.
So... after 2 months of watching you and ronnie , and ur china trip might i add was amazing, i decided to get the ranger 2x. And that code helped keep the pockets from breaking. Thank u for all ur great detailed info..
Phil D has entered the chat 😂
Going to review Raldey carbon AT anytime soon?
I’ve tried it. Wheels touch the feet during turns. Deck too short for AT. Bad remote. Etc. I don’t like it.
@@DanielKwan right, thanks for reply. What you would recommend for allterian under 800usd? Seen this yecoo gts . Did you tried it?
Never tried it. Also don’t have any recommendations for AT under 800 at the moment.
I just bought a x2 should be here Monday hopefully been watching these ever since
For a board that cheap, it looks really good. I have a Lacroix board which has a lot more power and range but over 2 and a half times the price. Good video.
I had a street bamboo evolve gt and I sold that for a new backfire ranger x2 and the first time I rode it I fell in love. it was the first all terrain board I'd ever ridden and it's seriously so much smoother than street wheels. all my friends who ride street boards said it was like riding on a cloud
My X1 deck just broke so I'm purchasing the new deck.
How did that happen? Mine is still good,allmost 2000km on it in 5months
@@scufitzuca I'm a heavy guy. But the deck is just weak at the drops. I've also been using it for 12 months almost everyday.
@nuur How heavy? I’m 250 and between the X2 and the Ownboard Carbon AT for my first board.
@@cscott4806 They changed the deck on the X1 and X2 now to be stiffer i think but that's about 30-40lbs more than me. I'd suggest you contact their support to figure out if the deck can support you. Though at 250 you're probably better off with a stiff deck.
what shoes you wearing?
Hub motors kinda suck for one reason, the motor absorb all the vibrations and it can cause it to fail. Like mine did
Great videos. This one helped me to decide to purchase an x2. Looking forward to checking it out.
Disappointment you didn't' threaten to throat punch me in the intro! anyways awesome review as always! :) might get one since we got horrible roads here
What do you think real off-road board? I’m looking for that one.
Nice :)
Are you sure that the boards speed is controlled by the ESC? I thought it was limited by the motors Max kv rating. I had purchased the previous motors separately for a custom build using a Vesc and a 12s⁴p battery. Turns out it still was limited to about 22mph, witch is not fast enough for me. So could you let us know if the new motors are ESC or Kv speed controlled. Thanks
Rusty Shackleford I don’t know, you might be right. Would explain why turbo on this board doesn’t increase the top speed.
Hey good video