Personality Traits That Lead To Narcissism | Jordan Peterson
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2021
- Jordan Peterson discusses narcissism from the standpoint of Big Five personality traits. He provides a brief overview of the role of extraversion and disagreeableness in narcissists and the personality traits that lead to narcissism. He also warns against being narcissistic and using narcissism as the primary way of negotiating the world.
⚪️ ⚪️ ⚪️ This short is extracted from Jordan B. Peterson Q&A 5-22-2021. #shorts
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✏️ Jordan Bernt Peterson is a Canadian professor of psychology, clinical psychologist, UA-cam personality, and author. Born and raised in Alberta, Peterson obtained bachelor's degrees in political science and psychology from the University of Alberta and a PhD in clinical psychology from McGill University. After teaching and research at Harvard University, he returned to Canada in 1998 to permanently join the faculty of psychology at the University of Toronto. In 1999, he published his first book, Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief, which became the basis for many of his subsequent lectures. The book combined information from psychology, mythology, religion, literature, philosophy, and neuroscience to analyze systems of belief and meaning.
He put his clinical practice and teaching duties on hold by 2018, when he published his second book, 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos. This book became a bestseller in several countries. Throughout 2019 and 2020, Peterson's work was obstructed by health problems in the aftermath of a severe benzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome. In 2021, he published his third book, Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life, and returned to active podcasting.
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There are introverted narcissist
Covert narcs
It’s an association thing.
Covert/= Introverted
@@pawneraser9022 eh kinda. covert narcissists are shy and withdrawn which the literal opposite to being extroverted.
He didn't say that there is only one type of narcissist... He's saying if a person has those two traits together that they tend to be narcissistic. You must not know who Jordan Peterson is lol...
@@xocsm_ I would say that introversion is a buzz word among pop psych. Covert Narcissism was coined by Sam Vaknin I believe who has a whole youtube channel dedicated to NPD that you can check out. This vid inparticular ua-cam.com/video/iByTWmJNP3U/v-deo.html
Dated a girl last year that was exactly this way. Super outgoing, but the most insensitive, apathetic person I have ever met
Her uncle probably fucked her brains out when she was 3. Don't let it get to ya too much there buddy. Just go out there and find yourself a nice, ugly, frumpy, boring, faithful, neurotypical gal with nice boring parents with low expectations who spends her free time knitting sweaters and a pussy that smells like curdled milk. She'll love you for the rest of her cotton balls filled up in clear plastic containers in the bathroom life!!!!
Thank God she’s history.
My thoughts exactly he dodged a bullet
hi alex popcorn elsewhere
Ugh. One word I got to say is ugh.
I am just that. I have always felt that the world was made for my entertainment and my actions and interactions often were to amuse myself. I've learned that people really don't like me. I am also working on it and Dr. Peterson's words are what I usually will look back on.
Good dont be a selfish peace of shit. I'm glad your working on it. But I do have a question. Why do you want to change is it because you dont want others to be hurt by what you do or do you do it for a reason that you want? Or do you want this to happen because your lonely and want someone by your side but no one likes you so you realize that problem and better yourself. I'm apologize if that sounded rude I'm just really interested on the reason why. Plis reply
Why do you think that the world was made for your entertainment? I wanna understand that because I’ve never thought this way or considered to
@@danielapolo7346 I believe they can’t explain.
@@danielapolo7346 They've probably never been held accountable for their actions or one person held them accountable and the other one pampered and spoiled them. Golden child. Can't do wrong, even if they hurt others.... They're not told that other beings matter too, have feelings, too. Every child needs a person who loves them and tells them they matter and other people matter, too. We need to learn that. I think some of them have never truly suffered, so they don't know what it's like, so they don't feel any remorse for hurting others. Or they're numb and don't feel anything, and hurting others makes them feel amused because now they have an influence on something... It's very good to be indifferent towards them.
@Booty eatin' Benadryl bandit If you recognise any of your bad behaviour, it's can not be harmful that much.
Because you know how to control it.
I came across such kind of people from all age groups.
I mean these people don't have common sense in how to talk to someone else.
They don't have to learn the language of us "common folk" they have "God" on their side😂
comming from a right libertarian😂 alright buddy
This is a brief clip🌟Of course one can be introverted / disagreeable narc
It kinda sad because it like a loop, you become an introvert and if you are a narcissistic person it will keep you that way making you a more narcissistic person the strongest forces in this world are the one that can fule it self just like how small achievement can make you want to achieve more loneliness will only make you more lonely over time
Interesting
I absolutely hate this kind of people... Got unlucky enough to have my first gf, one of my best friends and my father all being narcissists. Abuse is just overwhelming.
Luckily, two out of three are already gone from my life.
He’s speaking the truth yes they do 100%
Please forgive my ignorance…. Do narcissists know and understand the definition of narcissism? Can they recognize they are narcissistic? What happens if you point it out to one?
They know something is wrong but not what. Usually their knee jerk reaction is to accuse the accuser. They go into denial. I got this response for calling out my mother in law. She got very, "I'm a narcissist? No. You are."
@I'm me sometimes Pretty much. My response boiled down to digging up psychology tests to rule it out at least for me. Just in case, ya know? I tested low. 1 of those I have a few (I forget specifically which ones), but basically said it was unlikely. I've been exposed to enough of them to take on a few traits as a survival mechanism (that I try not to utilize outside of necessity), and part of me was worried anyway just how much became me after surviving that b.s. Just gave that last final reason I needed to check myself. She still very much believes I am the villain in her story. Probably will forever because odds of seeing her flaws are next to none.
@I'm me sometimes I'm ok for the most part. I survived a few now exes in the past who saw extreme gas lighting as fun and I missed the red flags on them until I prioritized myself enough not to let that type in my head deep enough to do major damage again. Therapy and all that jazz.
My husband, despite his mother being dubbed my monster in law, thankfully doesn't cave to her false accusations. She tried threatening to disown him before our wedding, too. He showed me the messages so I would know what to expect from her. Confirmed with him if he really wanted to despite her threats. Heard straight from other in-laws at the wedding that she refused to go. Then after the wedding... She pretended to be all supportive (stuff like "Oh I am so sorry I missed your wedding! I so wanted to go but something came up! I dropped off a wedding card at the hotel when y'all didn't drop by. I thought you 2 were coming?") like she didn't just threaten to disown him like 12 hours before then. For yrs every conversation with her about me was "oh you can do so much better. She's manipulative and made you defy me. You need to divorce her. She can't be THAT good a wife." Thankfully he knows me fairly well so her manipulation is rarely on point and she rarely talks to me directly these days. He himself is amazing despite being the scapegoat "child". His mother, though... Ugh.
I tend to have anxiety and am autistic so now rather than give certain insecurities room to grow, my go-to is to test myself if accused of something like that. Keeps me off the what-if-they-are-right train when there is no valid cause. 1 of the ones I dated before him made this big spectacle of claiming I had an STD and how glad he was he left me before I got it. No STD. He was a chronic cheat and pathological liar but I didn't know those upfront. I survived and thrived. I now have a healthy relationship that those exes swore I could never have. So I'm happy with this 1 at least. We had a rough patch but still stronger than her or our traumas so I will take the wins where I get them. Eventually he knows we have to go no contact with her but he has to be done with her sh!t more than he wants to be a good son. He's pretty close to it now.
SPOT On as usual ❤
That's a description of everyones ex. 😂
My resaults were quite bad
If anyone's intrested
I got a
94 in neuroticism
0 in ageeableness
61 in extraversion
57 in concientiouseness
56 in openess to experience
What if a person is high on introversion and low on agreeableness?
Low self esteem probably
Vulnerable (also known as covert) narcissist.
Depends.. during times like these that's common lol
my best friend, doesnt give a shit about what people think of him, and doesnt really care about other people that much. Is quiet and reserved in social situations, unless with close friends
You get A Hermit
I wish I could tell my brother that this is him, because he is so unaware and has lost jobs over it!!
This is me, I've always been outgoing and want to be the center of attention, I am definitely not agreeable and want things my way. I use empathy as a manipulation. I really want to do and be better but it is hard.
In fact, I've just turned away from one. (a narcissist). And he's lost a lot of friends lately. I wonder if he gets it.
be sure, he is not
Test je vrlo bazičan.
Nisam saznala ništa novo o sebi što već i sama nisam znala.
Jako puno vrlo diskutabilnih premisa koje vode prosudbi ličnosti.
Niti jedan ozbiljan psiholog ne bi trebao prodavati takve testove .
Vrlo sam razočarana.
Please do a talk on covert narcissist
The way they go about things seems to be totally different to other narcissist
I find that they also contradict themselves and seen hypocritical.
Bilstein That's for sure and the hypocritical issue can be infuriating! I've reached the stage where I ignore advice from highly narcissistic individuals who aren't practicing what they preach, so to speak.
An example is people who are dependent on alcohol criticising me for drinking coffee at night, but it's probably to divert from their issue, which I don't judge them for because I used to drink a lot many years ago. 😊
yea
They tend to have double standards a lot its true
Literally hypocrites!
So every crew supervisor and manager, ever.
Exactly. Some of them are unintelligent and incompetent so much it's hilarious. I love making fun of them to their face in front of people
I think that those are the worst and most dangerous. They're like brick walls. Like a problem child throwing tantrums and won't listen. They try to get everything by brute force and violence. They're brain dead.
I’m a bit low on agreeableness, plus extroverted, but Really LOW on Conscientiousness. I’ve always known that I struggle with empathy, so I really try to do compassionate actions. I am not going to be able to /feel/ seriously bad for you, but I will put on a concerned face and get you a band-aid or help you pick up your bag of spilled items.
Sir i have a question do you agree in a situation because your peers say yes and youre the only one left? In what situation .Hmm 😊im just curious what if i can encouhter a sutuation like this so that i may an idea how to react 😊
Everything has a downside. Once upon a time, i was a characterless person i let my crush stay in a friendzone area, because i didnt have the guts to move forward with her, i let my so called friends get over me, controll me manipulativly, i let my best narcissistic friend use me like an idiot, so i had to change. I have to be more assertive, i have to be more nonagreeble person, i have to give value to myself more because i dont want to be pushed around suffer all the time. These downsides compared to having a little narcissistic traits is nothing
What about vulnerable covert narcissists, they are not extroverted they play the victim yet they still have the basic NPD traits.
To me that’s a sociopath. They pretend to be so broken and sad to rope you in and then attack you. A wolf in sheep’s clothing. Granted, genuinely hurt people can behave this way as well, but sociopaths seem to plan/strategize it. They fake the “poor pitiful me” routine to hook the empath and then attack.
Those are introverted and disagreeable people
I'm told that I'm extraverted and I notice that I'm also very disagreeable compared to my sister and Mom, but I feel that my extraversion is very broken in that I'm afraid to interact with certain people whom I shouldn't be afraid of and just other people in a crowd who I don't know at all
You just sound insecure/ love self-esteem type that only dominates when they feel comfortable towards someone they don't deem as socially higher ranked than they are.
Yup. Guilty. I gotta keep it in check and give my trusted few friends permission to call me out on it.
You can have some narcissistic traits without being an actual narcissist. There is more to narcissism than just what he mentioned. He’s only pointing out what could be a red flag.
but that doctor sam vaknin said it was more prone to introvert to be narcissistic
I'm introverted and diagnosed npd
wow the more I read these comments and learn about the perspective of these types of people it really does seem like if you don't have empathy it can be a disability because in the real world it's gotta be hard to navigate life like that, especially during this age of global consciousness where people understand and consider others more and more for mutual benefit and healthy collaboration :") narcissists don't @ me I'm really just trying to understand your perspective and I feel for you (no pun intended)
Savage
I'm definitely a hedonist
Narcissist will make sure that they score high on agreeableness since they live a a parallel world where they think everybody love them.
I think this test can be tricked easily.
My introverted, very agreeable narcissist ex would disagree with you.
Or more likely you have a victim complex, and pathologically try to categorize people who are difficult to you into "bad guy" boxes, or don't understand what extraversion and agreeableness are.
What makes him a narcissist then?
Narcissistic aren't agreeable
@@immanuelcunt7296 Awfully presumptuous of you
@@Softman264 Someone who cares about themselves too much; how they measure up to people, how they can be/ feel superior to others etc.
How about introverted and low agreeable?
JP is not talking about just one kind; he said 'generally', so he is admitting the other type of introvert narcissistic
Nah, I had 2 boyfriends, who are very strong narcissists and they are very introverts. Narcissists are afraid of people, as they can unmask him, and they will unmask him sooner or later.
I guess that's an effort of Jordan Peterson to justify, acquir himself, as he seems to be very narcissistic as watching him with his scared to breathe wife :))
Also, I don't like the mainstream rhetoric lately "be obedient". "Agreeableness" :D Jordan Peterson's wife seems to be very agreeable and obedient :)) this a strong indicator of a narcissistic partner.
Don't be obedient to anybody, so called "agreeable"! Be yourself and agree with yourself the most importantly.
What if you are agreeable: low introvert?
Would that still make me a narcissist?
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What about the covert type
Damn, if ever a narciisit it is Peterson.
Does that make him less qualified to speak on the topic?
Exactly! Pot meet kettle. 😂
Idk its hard to say that when he's committed over 20,000 hours to helping people in a clinical setting. Not exactly something a narc would do
So you mean to be agreeable we need to agree and covered it up that we like bec. We want to be liked . So you mean this is the best meaning of covert narcissistic person 😊 . Please enlighten me 😊 oh youre title says the making of narcicissm😅😊
What is process money
I did his test, I know 100% for sure i'm introverted. My brain needs to recharge. But his test said I was high in extraversion. But I'm exceptionally high in neuroticism. I don't understand how that's possible. I get the neuroticism, I feel torture everyday. But I don't see how I score high in extraversion without being an extraverted person. What does extraversion in his test mean?
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Oops that me
And the cure for that is Machiavellism, narcs won’t mess with a certified Machiavellian
What do you know about demonic personality disorder?
Sure if you're a classical narcissist.
Covert narcissists can be very agreeable, yes? At least outwardly.
lucy
They just vampires
What’s the opposite of this called?
Oli london
Mmm no, huge companies amd federal government will bow to your every will and command.
my boss.
Do extroveets and introverts needs to agree even if against him ?
Do you agree in a situation sir where its against for yoruslef just because you want to be seen as agreeable ? So now whos the real narcicisst? 😂😂😂 plesae enlighten me .😊😊😊❤❤❤
That's exactly why the good guy I know turned into the narcissistic abusive ex one day :p
That is literally 85% of the population
my ex
Interesting. I wish Peterson would focus more on the interesting and ethical parts of psychology and stop trying to make a name for himself.
A.k.a my father 😒
Sort of like you?
By any chance he using a bronzer😂
He is a narcissist himself? And he is working on it to get better?
Relevance?
That’s not how you identify anything
So far Mr.Jordan never explains what narcissm is , only thinks his mind, i think there noone dominates in sosmed, just relax and give your possitive knowledge to the people
Thnx
Literally dudes name is Vlad, and he looks like this dude... Sorry, not sorry.
Sounds like my b-n-l
This guy has no idea what he’s talking about Covert Narcissists are more common than you might imagine
Jordan didn't have to compete in the workforce, he got paid with taxpayer money and enjoyed a big fat paycheck and pension, the rest of us have to compete and in order to compete in this parasitic Monopoly system that he also enjoyed because the Academia is one as well then you must develop narcissistic traits. It comes with competition, competition promotes narcissism and as long as it's manageable it is fine because there is no freedom without true genuine ancient free market capitalism. And I understand it could never be because you have your Elites who monopolize the economy and use the military to reinforce their monopolies around the world. It is Monopoly that we use to determine the misery index. That should be a big hint and red flag for you. Women are attracted to men that are very competitive and can get the bag and have very high so she economic status, women are hypergamous they only look up the social economic ladder so if you're not giving a paycheck like Jordan was through the initiation of force by government to take from the taxpayers to fill his professorship pockets as well as the fraudulent Administration that has four bedroom houses and drive around and Deluxe Mercedes vehicles at taxpayer expense then you must compete and in order to compete you have to nurture some degree of manageable narcissism and that's totally fine. What's not cool with me is how he manipulates people for his convenient agenda. Because at the end of the day he benefited from the very sinister misery-inducing Academia that operated as a little Monopoly within the greater Monopoly of the world. These monopolies Force us to participate as parasites amongst each other and he should know this and or he's blocking it out of his mind or is conveniently hiding it from us because this is part of his dark side that he doesn't want to confront nor illustrate through the people. Nobody hides from me I'm sorry and I'm not here to judge but I'm here to tell you how it really is. And denial is not a river in Egypt. This massive Monopoly has been in place since the Sumerians and it's very sophisticated form that we see today which is primarily founded on Monopoly of economy and monetary unit these are the two components that we ultimately use to determine the misery index. The true source of most all human generated miseries stems from this Monopoly, from there we see where most human traumas come from both physical mental emotional and spiritual. Now you have the root cause of most all social problems you no longer have to remain in this Cult of symptomology that Jordan Peterson and the rest of his academic Elites as well as economists would like to keep you in. It's your choice to leave this Cult of symptomology or remain within it. It's a matter of taking the blue pill or the red pill. The real red pill
but you are extroverted and not agreeable you make a living out of debating others...
Is he looking in a mirror?
He's the biggest narcissist of the century ...who's he kidding lol
This comment is dumb.
Dharshani You read my mind and it does seem like Jordan Peterson is that way inclined! I'm aware that he's assisting many thousands of people though, which is the case with self-aware narcissistic individuals such as HG Tudor, Lee Hammock and Ben Taylor as well. 😊
He’s actually super high in agreeableness. He’s also super high in extroversion. What you don’t understand is he actually hated conflict but had to learn to embrace it for long term peace. So your confusing his disagreeable extroverts public persona with narcissism.
I mean he was a clinician and a professor, not exactly narc professions
That's total nonsense..if you're educated about nbp..bpd..etc..you just know he b talking bs for a while
You're description of what goes into the making of a narcissist is obviously unresearched. And, having research the subject very thoroughly, I have to disagree with you. Narcissists come in all different types and on the whole Spectrum of personality traits. For an example, my ex narc boyfriend was what is called a cerebral/ somatic. An introverted, passive aggressive know it all sex addict. He was an effective and demeaning extrovert and braggart with the right audience. Narcissist come in all variations. They say one in 20 people is a narcissist. Be careful out there! We empaths, do not have to worry about becoming narcissistic. We do not not possess the follow-through of inflicting pain through our defenses
Bullshit
Imagine thinking this man is legit when he made his career of demeaning his fellow community members to make a misguided point about legislation. The idea that you don't respect others as a basic approach, and then, using legislation to circumvent personal responsibility to treat others with respect. This man is a weasel.
What're you talking about?
@@dingding4898 Peterson's rise to fame dehumanizing trans people.
source?
@@dingding4898 source: Jordan Peterson
@@cypressbutane4575 nothing wrong with not wanting to conform.