You could visit this Space Station before 2030 for $500k or Less!
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Finally a station that does Von Braun's and "2001 SO" visons justice!
The von Braun space station was first conceptualized in 1903 or 19 08 one of those years by Russian and in 1929 by a soviet scientist further extrapolated on how to do a von Braun space station
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Can we just take the minute to appreciate the awesome Saturn 5 launch video? Wow.
Saturn 5 is a monstrous rocket.
Even with the added-in audio... :-)
The collaborative efforts to move into space is one of the few things left that humans do that really inspire me.
I look on at all the pointless and seemingly forever wars, with all the suffering and death with dismay and disgust.
But the military industrial complex is forever hungry and needs feeding.
I just want to live in space lol
I'm sure you have thought of this already, but don't forget companies like SpaceX or even NASA could have repair bays for on orbit maintenance. Even if it's just for damage tile. They could have parts up there so they wouldn't have to attempt risky de-orbits like has happened before. I think that would be invaluable when it comes to safety of passengers. I'm sure repairs on orbit would be much cheaper than sending up a replacement craft. Personally I would love the opportunity to work and live in space, whether building the station or even cleaning the bathrooms. I think I'm one of those people that might not come back down.
You don’t need a license to work on spacecraft.
Same here.
I wish people would stop saying space and just say orbit. So many ignorant people have all these preconceived ideas when they hear space. As if they will be traveling intergalactically to visit other beings. No your simply in a free fall very close to the earth's atmosphere. We don't need you people polluting our orbital areas any more than they already are just so rich people can feel a sense of accomplishment in life. None of this is going to happen anyway. I mean look at Jeff Bezos. His trip was pretty lame and he's by far one of the richest people alive. What is the point of being up there? Why do you think it will be so great? If you were born up there I bet you'd dream of being down on earth where you can actually live sensibly.
@@trout3685 Sure. Return to Earth where you now place how much stress on the body and the organs. Makes sense to me. As for being "up there" it would help to lower population pressure by a small percentage and allow the Human Race to survive as a multi-planetary species exploring wherever we can get to. Anything less is a slow death as a race. I happen to think that living is better.
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I will admit I am skeptical of y’all. However I like the how y’all think and I believe more people like you are needed to progress humanity
No this is exactly what we don't need. We need people who think critically and can recognize bullshit when they see it. These people are playing off the ignorant dreams of people who want to live in space. Their project makes no sense, living in space for some sort of vacation makes no sense, and the idea that any of this will happen in our lifetimes is simply a lie. People need real education not this fantasy shit.
@@trout3685 like I said I’m very skeptical myself but people where saying the same things about the planes 10 years before the wright brothers flew and everyone thought it be impossible for us to land on the moon only 8 years after we had sent the first man into space.
Um.. Just for the record, George Cayley had a man airborne in controlled flight 50 years before the Wright brothers, although his aircraft had no engine because the only things with light-enough portable horsepower in Cayley's time had hooves...😁
Regarding the advance of the human race, I think a real sign of progress would be sorting out mankind's problems here on Earth before indulging in 'useless' jaunts into space.
With respect to all those concerned, including those who lost their lives in the endeavour, putting a man on the Moon was an absurd waste of time, money and human ingenuity, intended purely to sooth a nation's bruised pride after having lost the only space race that mattered to Russia [i.e. achieving low Earth orbit and creating artificial satellites].
We have no business spreading ourselves across the solar system in person until we've shown that we can manage planet Earth successfully. THAT would be an impressive feat. Running away to the Moon or Mars is wrong wrong, wrong.
An adult who's soiled his bedsheets should wash them, not just go next door and vomit in a clean bed.
And so-called space tourism is nothing more than a money-grabbing ego trip. We can do a lot better than that as a species.
The human race has proved that it isn't mature enough to go off planet.
Yet.
Brilliant and informative video, my dreams of being out there are more than I could afford, but as a retired fabricater welder of pressure vessels in England I will just have to watch the night sky and see you build that station Vera, good luck to one and all. 🌠🌝
You won't idk how you people are so gullible. I mean I get that you are trying to be positive and want to see it so badly but we need people to start being critical thinkers for humanities sake. This is not going to happen. Especially not in your lifetime if you're already retired. Be realistic. Have they made anything at all that they plan on sending up yet? Why do so many people want to go into orbit so bad? Why can't anyone appreciate earth anymore? It's not going to be as amazing as you think it is. Imagine 200 years ago people would say the same thing about flying in planes yet today we sit there and moan and groan like it's such an inconvenience.
Would be great to see a working model of the Sargon (even a 1:50 scale down) churn out a VERA torus. The CGI animations are great but getting real hardware together would really prove the genius of engineering design that Gateway is.
this is a con lmao
Remember. They are selling you cgi animations. Nothing else. This whole thing is pathetically promoted and will never happen. Look at them using humans to build stuff that robots are supposed to do automatically in orbit. It's laughable how far they have to go. It's almost not even worth starting to try big projects like this. We should wait for a.i. to advance more to help us figure out solutions. God knows this guy promoting this project knows absolutely nothing.
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@@trout3685 If every great in history thought like you, nothing would ever have been done.
@@TiaguinhouGFX they did think like me. If they thought like this guy they'd never finish anything.
Nice cut of the Apollo launch, very inspiring.
Yeah that was extra badassery throwing that in their
This is the type of space station that should have been built decades ago.
LET'S DO THIS!!
Great stuff guys, keep at it.
Love this channel I hope all of you can go beyond and reach the expectations of the world!
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Totally awesome. Can't wait!!
hope we all get to see Von Braun's vision come to fruitition
The inspiration alone this and other space colonization projects give will be one of the major factors that save civilization. The fact that it's private and profitable is encouraging as governments and their agencies lose vision and focus very easily.
What? How will this save civilization? What is inspiring about this? Is it actually profitable? What is the point of it anyway?
Governments sent up the greatest telescope ever built into space recently. That is inspiring and awesome and will produce lots of great science opportunities. This thing just plays off ignorant people's idea of going to space. As if it's some amusement ride.
Hey I have a plan on sending people through the black hole at the center of our galaxy. It's going to be super costly but that's okay I need your money to start this project.
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Great! I hope your plan works out!
Hello everyone!
Thank you for the enormous support this effort has received over the last few months. VERA Station and Sargon Systems are very exciting projects that will deliver an astounding level of human infrastructure in the next few years.
Our intent after the first VERA Station video was to create a VERA Station Operational System's video showing you how various station systems would protect the station from debris and others that would keep it functioning. But after getting a high level of responses requesting information about how it would be economically feasible, we decided to jump ahead to the Business Case for VERA Station video instead.
This video was not easy to produce. Many weeks of research were required to get real-world numbers of how much it would cost for millions of metric tons of 2219-T8 Aluminum alloy. Most of the aerospace mills were not giving anyone a quote until 2023 due to supply chain issues. We wanted to get 3 quotes but had to go with only one and they were very apologetic that their quote was so much higher than in pre-COVID days.
Engineering cost estimates were based on the only other large-scale space project in the private sector: Starship. Lucky for us, building a space station is actually easier than building a giant rocket that must be reusable within hours after landing. Sargon systems make everything easier; automated exterior construction and interior construction machines are using the same principle methods. But what is going to help us the most is the smaller steps we will take before building VERA Station: Test Module, Virgo Module, and Valhalla Station Module. A logical progression of ever bigger projects that will quickly culminate in the building of VERA Stations Inner Torus.
Pricing: $2m, $1m, and $500k is where we start. Once the station is paid-off and other stations are being built we can drop the price again and again. Our goal is to drop down to $50k for a 3-day stay 5 to 7 years after VERA Station's first rotation.
Expect our next video in two months: VERA Station Systems Architecture and Systems Integration. Ad Astra!
You need ferris 🎡 wheel type stations where the floors run like a radius along the spokes-like floors. If you're on the circle, you'll only have the floor spin from under your feet, but if you're standing on the spoke, you'll only be pushed in the direction the wheel spins
Get it done
Hi. You mentioned Space Force in the video. Is there going to be a government contract to setup a Space Force military base up there as well? I mean for safety and security purposes.
I mean, if I was going to colonize Space. I'd want a military base somewhere up there. Something to think about.
Glad to see you guys getting further with this. Can't wait to see something launch.
Combine this with a space doc for building large ships that never enter earth's gravity. This could house the technicians for this new type of construction.
perfect
Inspiring. Crazy people like you are absolutely needed for the progression of humanity!
Wow that's rude there not crazy
Make sure to like and share guys. Each of these videos only have around 500 thousand views.
The more publicity they get. The quicker and better itll be. ;)
This is an interesting concept. I imagine world leaders attending a ribbon cutting.
Awesome! I like the way you think!
I like your space construction idea, and it looks nice. Your previous spin station had flat panels and was expected to support maybe 10 psi up to 13.8 psi which is one ton per square foot against your flat panel and it would deform, burst or leak your air out. Large flat panels will fail. THe torus design with curved panels will work if welded well. Even if small panels welded are flat, there is an over all curve and the bulge of pressure will not deform the welds due to the large curved structure. 3 or four shaped volumes can support high pressure, the sphere, the hemisphere cylinder and the torus . There are some balloon shapes for moderate pressure but the torus is the most valuable of these because it will support spinning and artificial gravity. My space station too encorporates the torus and spin and will take close to 30 launches also and support up to 350 peoplecontinuously or 1,000 for short periods.
Inflated modules WITHIN the torus (perhaps with water or ice insulation between them and the outer shell for radiation protection) would be a GREAT idea.
@@Joseph_Omega Double redundancy is a great idea and could have Vectran and Kevlar for insulation from meteors.
The best way to approach project like this one is to just do it. You need money for materials, launches, assembly cost, processing cost, bureaucracy, legal and lobbying cost to prevent opposition to actualize this project to reality. This is a good pathfinder project to explore the necessary skills and techniques to construct in orbit or just space in general. Good luck with this project.
Can't wait to see this mega project come to reality.
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It'll be interesting to see the differences in ramp up vs. long term productivity between projects like this and ground assembled expandable modules.
Why's that?
The weld splatter that your animation depicts cannot be allowed to happen, obviously. Has any type of welding been tested in a vacuum on Earth or in space? I would think that testing in a vacuum and in zero-G at the same time would be necessary.
You can vacuum weld things just by sanding them and pushing them together tightly in space. I doubt it would be insanely hard to "weld" them, however they choose. Space is forgiving in the regards of fusing elements together. It is something we don't know 100% about though so hopefully they have some research and development with it
@@TJPlaysNow I think you are talking about cold welding which will happen to gold leaf in the open air on earth and cold welding happens more often in a vacuum-like space but the best option is to use friction stir welding. The friction stir welding process uses a spinning disc pressed into the two joining metal pieces and turned at a high RPM till it heats both sides of the joint and the pieces are pressed together. Friction stir welding is already used in aerospace to allow easier joining of different thicknesses of metal.
Welding in vacuum is a thing.. welding in space would be Lazer beam but future magnetic cold fusion welding isn't fully understood since it happens only out of the lab or in space
There's a few vacuum chamber robotic welding /soldering machines that rely on (near)vacuum chambers techniques for the precision heating / cooling of materials that have low thermal tolerances. some circuit boards/chips are manufactured in vacuum to control molecular purity of the material. Without needing a preticularly non-reactive shielding Gas. drastically increase in uniformity of penatration & fusing.
2nd zero/micro G wouldn't be to far off from submersion welding. Almost opposite in terms of water conduction is high, cooling rapidly. While VAC would cool slowly, but it would still have rapidly changing Temps
@@HELL-FORGED 100% there's alot of unknown. To my understand the consensus is, accidental cold welding/fusion (think of cold fusion as atomic/thermonuclear fusion without radiation.) Is extremely unlikely and that the "cold" or vac of space causes this phenomenon. To be untrue as many factors play a role. Of witch we can't quite predict Thermodynamics is complex.
Friction welding/fusing an Friction stir welding are different. High rpm creats enough to heat itself to fuse. Stir welding uses low speed high pressure to "STIR" materials together (as long as there the same) no heat
Excellent stuff bro
That would be awesome!
Awesome 👏
And the music in end ballet was also very cool!
I hyped to ascend
A new life awaits you in the off-world colonies.
We share a dream Cross The world, and generations, gretings from Colombia 🚀❗
I can't wait! This is amazing!
This video was published on my birthday, what a treat! 🎂🚀🌎🌌
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
@@alanrobbie4851 Thank you! 😃
You could build a space hotel half way to the moon. Then halfway to mars and etc. It would help with the long trips.
FYI 60 years ago we decided to go to the moon, not 50
It is more probable a huge space station to be built before the end of this decade than me having 500k of disposable money ever.
I love this and fully believe in it
I really like all your ideas, as they are very close to an idea I had over 20 years ago, but I don't mind at all as I just want to see it up there. But one question needs to be addressed, how do your modular built stations plan to deal with space radiation and the dangers of getting hit by space junk that might hole the hull. I know how my idea would handle that, using a blend of layers and a special variant of aeroglass made especially for nuclear testing. My idea also include a way to change a damage panel and an automatically system to notice if there is an issue.
My idea even have an idea for handling balancing the spinning and a lot more to make it safer, but all that is my ideas based on what I could figured out, so I'm almost sure there would be a better way of doing it, so it will be fun for me to see how such things is figured out, mostly because if the ideas isn't better than my ideas, then I know I'm just as smart as I like to think. ;D
But really, I know that we can built a station just like your ideas suggest even today if to focus of the world changed a bit. But the big question is how would your modular built station handle space radiation? Even in LEO that will be an issue sometimes.
But I really hope that VERA get built and get proven out so we can really start a true home in space.
And building VERA, a big space station in space, will be an inspiration for more than just the people of America, it will be inspiring for the whole world, all the people of Earth.
Why would we want to start a home in space? What is your plan for food water and stuff? What is the point? How much space debris will be added to our orbits just so you can live your imaginary dream? It's all senseless and your ideas I guarantee make no sense just like this project will never happen. There's no need to be up there unless your doing scientific research like the space station does. It's too costly and dangerous and wasteful.
@@trout3685 I have ideas for it all, but chances are it will take a long time for the world to build something like my idea. But the core of the idea is just too good and way to needed for the future so a version of or several will be built sooner or later. If not humanity will end, not soon, but it will end unless we spread out more.
As for food, being mostly self sustained isn't all that hard, you just need enough space, water and light. It depends on how hard you want to push it and if it is important enough you build a food production space station.
The think is, everything is solvable, you just have to look hard, long and divide up the issue into tiny piece and solve it from there and up. It works every time, well almost. The only non solvable things are limited by what we currently know and understand. Very few things so far, of real world challenges, can't be solved.
As for vastefull, yes, sure for now, but one day in the future a solution made in micro gravity might be just the thing that saves the live of your grand daughter or maybe their child.
We need to think in longer terms than 10-20 year, we need to peer deep into future needs and future dangers and if you do that, well look deep enough and you won't sleep of a few days, because the trends are very bad. Study history and you see the same patterns over and over, each time the end of an age comes closer. It won't be soon, but for our children it'll be too soon.
We f*cked up the planet and frankly we are all out of miracles to fix it. Go back 5 and 10 years and check the general weather, then pay attention to the weather this year at the same time of year and in 5 and 10 year. The trend is showing a growth that points to worse.
Don't believe me, well go check for yourselves. And dig deep, the internet is overflowing with lies.
@@taleg1 clown
Truly a dream come true
Fun to think about this. But my not so expert opinion, is the first station should be on the moon. Spend a few decades building a settlement and manufacturing on the moon. It has all the raw materials needed to build a huge space station, and a 1000x easier to launch from the moon.
I am very impressed by these ideas and concepts, and the quality of this video shows them in a clear and concise way!
I would invest in this project in a heartbeat, if my financial "situation" was vastly different.
However, if you send me a couple of Vera Station polo shirts, I will wear them often, and spread this message every where I go!
Why would they need your help? If they actually had a great idea they wouldn't need you wearing their t shirts to promote it. It's a complete fantasy and there's no reason you should think it is even possible. What is your background in science and engineering? Do you even know what this guy went to college for? Have you done any real research or do you just buy everything you see on tv?
He would take your money and generate more cgi to take other people’s money. He has no real company and hasn’t built anything, doesn’t even have a location to build anything. He’s a fraud.
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The pricing for the hotel stays definitely limits the number of potential customers, but the stations focusing on production and refining, to me, are more exciting. Those are would help to open space.
They would definitely be able to keep a space hotel booked for many years in advance at those prices, it's actually being able to get the structure up there that would be unlikely.
@@kangarooninja2594 I agree those prices are laughably cheap. This project is such a fantasy.
It's like anyone can make something up and say we should do this no matter how impossible it is and people on UA-cam will think it's actually a good idea.
I'd love to have a couple beers with this guy 😁
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My problem is that with the pricing of 2M, 1M and .5 M is it really going to be able to see the hundreds of people at a time that he mentions? Obviously you have to be fairly well off to afford those prices. Are there enough people both willing to do that and able to afford it?
I was thinking that also...500K isn't something the 'average' person can afford, and I don't know how big the pool of people who can afford that and willing to spend that repeatedly is...so the number of customers could dwindle quickly.
Same thought.
But you're talking about tourists.
The station could easily have a tourist section and a corporate section.
There are a lot of companies able to pay that but would probably make a different arrangement.
So I think the calculations are to simple. But it should still be able to make a profit, probably.
There won't be 300 people a day. Can you imagine how many Falcon9 with Dragon capsules that will need to launch daily...?
(Starship will not launch with humans aboard)
Well not the cargo variant spacex however said they are gonna design a passenger starship
@@Merecir Yes, it will. That's why they depict a version with windows.
In one of those modules should be a greenhouse module that grows plants that both make your own oxygen and grow your own food and water. That is how you would survive living in space and not always rely on the earth bringing the two number one survival supplies, "food, water & oxygen." Plants make oxygen. There would be intake vents that suck in all the oxygen into holding tanks and all over the station for unlimited oxygen supplies. Add Hydrogen to some oxygen tanks and you make tanks of water for unlimited water supplies.
Water shielding in the hull can have edible strains of algae growing in it.
Pack your bags, finally a trip to space anyone who deserves it can afford!
Yes we need a heaven station.
Ready to get going... my broken back will work out there.
Building a recycling station in space is a quick way to generate a business cash flow. Think about it , don't wait for star ship. There is the falcon heavy, use you're resources effectively
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What's the timeline for building the factory on the ground to build the stuff for the factory in space? :) I feel like that should be well underway now to enable anyone to visit anything by the end of the decade.
This should be a reality somewhere around 2350
Let's goooo
You talk about using 30 starship launches to build the station. This means that you would be sending 30 starships back down to earth empty. Why not just leave the starships in orbit and use them to build a space station. You wouldn't have to put thermal protection panels on them saving cost, weight and fuel. The main tanks would provide a very large pressurized volume that could be outfitted with whatever you brought up in the payload bay. All you would have to do is convert the manholes to larger docking port attachments. The header tanks wouldn't be needed for return to earth so they could be either eliminated or resized for use as stationkeeping fuel. The payload bay could be outfitted with living quarters so that the construction crew could arrive with the ships. The center raptor engines wouldn't be needed for landing either so they could be replaced with a docking port. Add another docking port in the nose and the 30 starships could be fashioned into a large ring that could be asssenbled in almost no time at all. Just add a center hub and spokes and you have your space station, all costing much less and taking a fraction of the time compared to your proposal.
This is my dream realized I would like to do as much as I can to be involved
If you 3D print an aluminium donut in space, then surely that’s what you end up with. This might be a fast process, but then so is building the empty hull of ship, it’s filling the enormous space inside that then takes the biggest amount of time. In order for this to work, there has to be interior, shielding, control panels, sleeping quarters, wiring and plumbing, and if it’s going to be attractive to the rich, it has to be nice and look nice.
Yea it's the missing piece of the puzzle at the moment. The construction ring is cool but how do you build the interior?
@@gordon1201 I’ve got it!!! Send the planed 3D printers to start the ring and program those printers to also print a rail system on the inside.
Then send another shipment of 3D printers, programmed to slide onto those printed rails and begin printing the interior while the exterior is still being printed.
As the tube grows in length big batteries could then be attached to the outside, so the printers in the inside could have somewhere to go to recharge remotely through the hull.
Somewhere for materials to be unloaded and stockpiled for the printers to be reloaded with the desired material whenever needed.
I laughed at this at first but wow yeh, I can well imagine it could be done.
The donut hole, that is the center of Vera Station, should be fitted with a giant raptor engine, so that Vera Station can travel and change orbits from LEO to MEO and up to GEO. around the earth. The station could travel to the moon and do lunar orbits, so that people can study the moon at 100 miles high.
If I go up, I am never coming back down.
You won't be missed.
every time that some one makes a prediction or statement about when this or that rocket or spacecraft is going to fly it always ends happening then or even earlier than that, recent history proves it
So after watching the apple+ show For All Mankind, I’m just curious what if any sort of defense you may have thought of against space debris?
Including a layer(s) of whipple shielding in the plates would be a cheap, lightweight solution.
Construction Clock 4.0 Days 32:37 How is the last segment going to be installed ? The ring assembler is going to be in the way and would have to be dismantled before the ring is complete !
How will the Sargon Construction Ring (CR) get out of the way as it nears completion of the torus? As Sargon reaches a point where about 10 Panel Rings are left, we extricate the machine from the construct (the torus) and produce the final "wedge" of rings ( all one piece, like a pie wedge) and insert it into the gap where a special weld ring of vertical EB welders will weld it into place. The Sargon CR will then start creating another Torus, and the special vertical seam welder inside the torus will be dismantled and removed so it can be used again to complete the next torus.
See this video: ua-cam.com/video/s-XlWP4Q4Ds/v-deo.html
@@TheGatewaySpaceport And all the stuff just magically pops into place, in zero G, and lines up perfect and all auto bolts togethe bla bla bla BULLSHIT, you have never actually engineered a damned thing, some of us have an actual engineering degree and an actual physic degree, you mate are nothing but an embarrassing joker......... You folks should really follow actual SCIENCE much better than you currently do, this guy has been a scammer for YEARS...... Want proof....ua-cam.com/video/yU_MMFRmn3E/v-deo.html
Would the station allow for personal communications? Cell phone or Amateur radio? Even a 5w amateur radio can talk ground to earth and back.
Though eager to make it clear I love this content and I fully support his vision, I'd be _shocked_ if this hadn't inspired a ytp or two
I would love being off world for the rest of my life.
what do you do what the spacelines go on strike if you are depending on them for all your foodandwater,
That is what we need people with vision
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Thank - you . ( 2022 / Aug / 02 )
Thank you for continuing to inspire!
I hope your dream comes true. Eight months later, April 20th, 2023, they have tested the first starship with no clear time when this Starship will fly without blowing up.
if your still operating in solar mode and not nuclear mode your finished for space travel
Solar power achieves far a better W/kg in Earth orbit than nuclear reactors with the added benefits that it is cheaper, easier to develop, and doesn’t suffer from long nights and bad weather like on Earth.
@@deltuhvee your smoking bath salts
Out in space, the size of space stations and space ships and human population is unlimited. In space, we could build stations over 10 miles long and 1,000 feet wide and could travel through space to visit other planets and explore the Solar System and could house over one million people. We can make our own water and oxygen by having garden rooms in these stations, growing plants that make oxygen and grow food. The earth is just getting too crowded, and we need s place to expand human life and space is that place to go. The earth now has 8 billion people. In space, just between the earth and the moon, there is room for well over 1 quadrillion people. Between Earth and Mars there is room for 1 quadrillion times that!! Most people just don't know just how big the ocean of space really is.
Just a thought I had with the fabrication/construction technology...but could that tech later be used to make an orbital ring?
With an orbital ring rotating at the same speed as earth, lines could be lowered down and attached to the surface. Those lines could have 3D fabrication machines slowly climb up them and create towers around the lines, which could each host an orbital elevator upon completion.
This is my solution to the old Orbital Elevator problem. Build the ring, connect it to the earth, build to space using the connectors as guidelines for precise stability and ease of creation, then use the complete space elevators to take materials for solar panel and ring station installations up to the ring itself.
The use of anchor lines allows for the use of automated construction machines that could simply climb the line as they build, day and night with minumum risk to human lives.
The biggest issues simply come down to mechanical issues, nature, and keeping all construction supplied properly to continue on schedule.
Scott Manley talked about crazy space buildings as alternate to the normal geostationary space elevator approach which is infeasible with any tech we have under development today for earth. Might work on the moon.
in this Q&A episode.
ua-cam.com/video/JYk_mSJjyko/v-deo.html
Problem one. We don't have any material strong enough to make those lines. That's the big problem with an orbital elevator.
Problem two. You need to build out a similar structure on the opposite side or it will fall down, as the centre of mass will shift away from geostationary orbit to lower down.
You don't want to build the actual elevator any heavier than you have to. Adding towers is unnecessary, as the guide ribbons temselves are enough to send cars up and down.
Low-Earth orbit, where these stations will be located is at 2,000 km, or less.
Geostationary orbit is at 35,785 km above Earth. So you would need 35,785 km long 'lines'.
Even if we made them out or diamond they would collapse under their own weight.
@@markfernandes2467 Everything i wrote was correct, it just wasn't answering the question. With a ring you don't need a counterweight, or even geostationary orbit if you have active support. In that case you could build orbital towers down top the surface, as tethers a few hundred kilometres long are far easier to build (even if we still can't do it yet).
@@markfernandes2467 Great, so with an orbital ring you only need a ring at least 40,100,000 km long...
Can you make a video on orbital rings around earth and how to fix the orbital debris issue
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I imagine scholarship programs for "young engineers and scientists" instead of "old tourists"
That rocket launch video... amazing detailed. WOW
how many flights have you already reserved at Starship......
his agenda is filling up already quickly.. think a few years waiting list.
Partnering with space X is a great and only option
How is this project going. Would like to know of any updates
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People do not realize or understand what an operational starship means for our immediate future. Fully reusable starships that are mass-produced will change everything. Starship is about to open the flood-gates for companies and investors like nothing you've ever seen before. A true 'space age economy' that will mark the beginning of the next industrial revolution and has the potential to immortalize the species. People are going to be SHOCKED at how much development will happen as soon as starship becomes fully operational. The Wright brothers invented the first airplane in 1903 - only ~60 years later and NASA set foot on the Moon! We had developed thermonuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles! We went from asking the question: "Can humans even fly - bro?" ...to... "We can destroy the ENTIRE PLANET at the touch of a button!!!" *all in the span of a single human life* 🤯It is a miracle that we are still here... but the socio/politico/economic ramifications of Starship are an order of magnitude greater than this; far beyond the scope of my imagination. Like 'Max-Q' for human civilization, itself.
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Offer people with free stay if they donate a panel it could pay for itself while you're having paying customers coming to stay as well it will simply spread out your costs
How cool would a space/moon hotel be by 2040?!
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See the Angry Astronaut for the dangers of space debris. One major strike and revenue dries up, project collapses. Also, structural stability relying on thin shell and welds, no initial internal bracing seems problematic. Needs serious engg. Price will go up. Perhaps hexagonal tiles w no long linear joints might help?
You should have called the Vallhala station the longship perhaps?
I want to see how Construction bot space pods actually propel themselves around. The animation just showed them moving around magically somehow, Method of propulsion wasn't mentioned
All we need now if for space x starship to be able to launch & then a person starship.
Sounds like a decent bed however I'd like to know what progress has been made since the last video I saw this I think it was about a year ago give or take and don't you think that we as a species should be more playing nice before we start major construction on outer space just a thought let me know what you think.
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@@merrittfallis6544 Yes I WOULD say that's a new trick, however 99% time I'm using voice to text and its dumb as rucks :) (and I cant be bothered to correct it).
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Instead of aluminium, just build it out of the same materials as Space X rockets...They used stainless steel. Probably save on cost and the supply chain is establish for the Space X logistics. Then again aluminium is lighter and has the same durability. Maybe they rather be working out the kinks for the heat shield. Anyway, two sources of materials is a good thing too. Beside the dormant supply logistic chains for the NAVY LCS, Boeing aircraft, and etc....it might be a good thing.
The plan for the rotating space station is fantastic, and solves the issue of long term stays in space where you have simulated gravity due to the rotation. But isn't the point of going to space for a short vacation to experience weightlessness? In the case of short vacations you do not even need a rotating space station. Unless there is also an attached and easily accessed non-rotating section for the weightless experiences.
We don't know what zeroG will do long term for the human body, and I'm sure there will be plenty of ZG stations out there.
@@ChadLupkes Actually we do know that long term living in microgravity has been shown to reduce muscle and bone mass and cause eye issues as well as other impacts. But if one of the major selling points of the Vera space station is for tourists, then having it rotate defeats the zero G attraction. It should probably be made clearer in the presentation the purpose of the different configurations, e.g. Vera for long term non-tourism stays, and the other non-rotating configurations for tourism and industrial use where microgravity is the goal.
@@blakevonhaden I assume you would still be able to experience zero G on the journey to the station and microgravity sounds like a lot of fun.
How this giant torus will maintain its speed/altitude being on NEO? Why no info about that? Orbit corrections for this big object would be tearoom, also avoiding the debris...
I believe the docking ring is designed for a starship which could probably provide reboost using ullage gas that was needing to be vented anyway.
There are millions of people on the planet that have the resources to spend 500k-1000k for such a trip and I highly doubt it they wouldn't be interested to visit space at least once in their lifetime. This is a huge investment opportunity, but you guys need to show the hardware at work. Prove that at least 20% of what you shown in construction times and engineering costs can be achieved. I really hope that you or any other company can achieve this in the next decade. Best of luck!
You're a dreamer; Elon's a dreamer... We need more dreamers! Stay on course.
People: We need to develop the automated construction equipment now. Makers with 3D printer - start designing miniature "proof of concepts".
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Dream on! Just where are you planning on finding all those $500,000 passengers to fill this station? The masses on Earth live paycheck to paycheck. Only the privileged few will ever be able to visit your station. Few is the active word here.
There are 1,456,336 households in America that have $10 million or more in net worth. That's just America.
@@TheGatewaySpaceport I just realised how you could fund this without any government money and get that money up front and without passengers or crowdfunding.
Your funding model for the station will not work it can only and will only be done one way and that way is the same way it's done on earth.
so how will you handle the *tourists* physical calamities caused by *gravity* (freefall) ? as i don't see each person doing the *2 hours* of exercise EVERY day!
Having rotating space stations around Earth will be the gateway to become a space-faring civilisation. But the possibilities are then opened up once the process is fully understood to start to establish RSSs around all the other satellites: the Moon, Mars and in fact any planet or moon in the solar system, as well as heliocentric orbits between Earth and Venus and Earth and Mars. I do believe the RSS is the key platform to colonising the solar system.
It would be intresting to see RSS, but it makes sense only as vacation spot or in orbit, where you can not land, like Venus and gas giants. But gas giants have moons, where you can land. And you know, Earth has orbiting space station, where is small gravity and you can land, it is called Moon. Why build one, when you already have one?
@@ErkiEntveg That is a really good point. I think there will be both. Both RSSs and Moon bases. Habitable rotating space stations and Moon bases (very few planet candidates apart from Mars at the moment.) The thing is with RSS you can recreate 1G. On Moons you basically take what you get in terms of gravity, and that's always going to less than 1G. This is fine for short periods, but we know that long periods sub 1G is not healthy. So I am certain that it will be both RSSs and MBs, but it's possible that those living on Moons will need to go to a local RSS to recover their strength from time to time. Or even if a bio-fix is found, RSS will always offer a step ladder or stepping stone to any place in the solar system where a regulated environment can or needs to be created.
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