The New Space Race: China vs USA in Space Construction
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- Опубліковано 2 гру 2022
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This is so amazing watching the future unfold! I can't wait to see your concept fully realized!
We need people and companies like you, Gateway Spaceport! 🌌🚀🤖
YEA ME TOO
Going to need SpaceX level engineers to design the machines that will build space stations the size of Vera. I hope you attract the talent you need.
We are confident we will find the talent required for this important project.
I really hope you guys can get it done. An awesome project, I love it 😆
We are doing our best, but we need funding to go to the next step.
@@TheGatewaySpaceport Have you showed this concept to Elon? I’m sure if you could get him to sit down and you could show him your concepts he would fully fund or may even partner up with Gateway with SpaceX.
look at their history & you see where they are going!
@@TheGatewaySpaceport we need updates on this every six months. Could Space X use their Falcon rockets to start this? If the starship fails to fly, could Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy get this project going?
We need something like this now. These stations would make it possible to evacuate the earth if there is a nuclear war or if a deadly earthquake or volcanic event happens. These stations will be the next "Noha's Ark"
I believe in Gateway, after Starship becomes a reality Gateway is next!
Goal was interesting but i gotta focus more on my Clothes Optional World Wide goals
In the center of Vera Station, you could put a giant nuclear engine that would make the stations mobile, capable of changing orbits, or traveling to the moon or Mars and back.
Great to see a visionary like you in action! 🚀
John, how are you this sunny morning in Goonellabah on North Coast NSW, Australia? I support you; you know that space is the future. I am a project engineer.
What kind of projects have you worked on?
@@TheGatewaySpaceport Thanks for your reply.
The Team and I submitted a Development Application to a council on North Coast NSW, Australia end of Nov 2022. I am waiting for approval DA:
1. 250 prefabricated SIPform passive house-certified homes. On the roofs of buildings, the Tractile, the excess electricity will be stored in the 28.8MW Tesla Batteries Farm.
2. The PV in total 934,370m2 - Tractile tiles 45,000m2 and Arctech Solar Tracking - Tesla PV panel 887,400m2
3. Bi-Charging of BEVs two per house and 12 charging stations in the shopping centre.
4. Micro-grid that connects to a community of 4800 residents. By 2030 we will provide all electricity to 41,500 residents of Lismore.
5. Landscaping the whole site, ensuring enough clearance for the surrounding bush and buildings.
6. We will be trailing the SoMax HTC process.
7. We will have a project at the end of 2024 that will be installed a long-range wireless power transfer. Emrod Tele-Energy Technology.
Some of the Teams and companies include. We are making Your Tube videos for each company:
• SipForm™.
• Tractile.
• Direct Building Solution.
• NB Consulting Engineers,
• Green Product Certification.
• XLam
• Weathertex
• Cupolex
• Big Ass Fans
• Arctech Solar Tracking
• Tesla EV - PV - Powerwall.
• Arcimoto.
• Emrod Tele-Energy Technology
• SoMax HTC
We will be onsite in July 2023.
We have a video on UA-cam at the end of Nov 2022. Then two videos a month project finish the project in 2025.
We will raise AU$ 500 million by the end of 2023 for the development. We have investors in the US and the Middle East. The Team and I will start Crowd Funding on Dec 2022. The Team and I have a Zoom meeting on the first Monday of the month. We will discuss Crowd Funding next meeting.
I was responsible for a team in Singapore MRT designing 12 k Tunnel Boring Machines and five stations. I lived there from 1999 to 2003. I worked on MRT in Hong Kong.
@@suchdevelopments Wow, that's impressive!
@@TheGatewaySpaceport At one stage, I wanted to be an astronaut in 1974
@@suchdevelopments All of us at Gateway have had the same dream somewhere in our past. If we are going to work/visit/live in space then we have to create a bigger future in space than what NASA has planned. The only way that can happen is by building big habitation structures, and lots of them, fast. I hope you will join our effort.
Love the music in this
It's pretty clear Gateway is going to remain in its start-up mode until a big enough investment/ feasibility investigation contract gets the ball rolling. I have been following this project for a few years now and am interested to hear of any new developments but there wasn't anything new in this video.
One thing I would like to see you guys try is a more in-depth look at a fuel station. If you can get a few NASA contracts testing fuel pumping in orbit, develop that into larger systems? Manned stations would have similar requirement's but an unmanned fuel station seems like a great place to start development, especially with the desire to send ships to Mars and beyond.
Gateway Spaceport has created a new space construction company: Offworld Industries Corporation. This new space construction firm is designed to build the big stations and massive rotating spaceports we need with new machines like Sargon Systems. These are the new developments (May 1, of this year) we have all been waiting for.
Exciting times ahead!
Oh, that would definitely be a good idea. Especially as SpaceX also wants to do near autonomous refuelling in orbit in order to be able to travel onto the moon and Mars, so if the Gateway station can also help with this, it would be a massive booster for potential funding.
I really hope you guys reach your fundraising goals.
"I love NASA, but I want to visit space before I die" - the quote of this decade!👌
Starship is the key to gateway
Right now, that is true. But over time there will be other rocket companies that build big rockets. We believe this will happen as space construction projects grow in number and size.
I'm a software / firmware engineer in the uk - any jobs going???😁😁🚀🚀
First we need to get funding, after that we will be hiring.
Aren't you gonna make a large circular truss at some point?
Gateway Spaceport patented fast Truss making machines in 2015. Sargon Systems are newer machines capable of building large enclosed pressurized volumes quickly. So, yes, we will. But the circular truss will be attached to the torus shaped space station.
@@TheGatewaySpaceport Cool, but I'm referring to a prototype truss builder like the one you achieved before
@@TheGatewaySpaceport - The first thing that should be built is a pressurized factory for welding larger sections together. You're restricting your "manufacturing machine" to what can be lifted and fitted into a single launch. You should focus on a small manufacturing station that builds a larger station around itself.
Good luck guys. Be sure to read my message I sent thru the website about building the torus quickly and cheaply.
We need to bring back cowboy science!
I think the bottleneck is focusing on Earth for all source materials. We should have a factory on the Moon to launch needed materials via a magnetic launch system to LEO. An orbital factory in LEO can assemble the structures.
My chief engineer was right on time
The next space race in among U.S. private space companies.
Will you upload a new video soon with Elon Musk sitting next to you on the future?
Yes
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budget space force dwarfs
your vision currently, and
… in real time - right now.
Just a note: That animation would make an Awesome screen saver.
Reminds me of that Churchill quote
Really leaning on our United Nations and other Allie’s as we race to get our space station ready for china launch and we can have a far superior space station that can take there’s out
The time line for the station needs to be a little more realistic. I've been waiting for something like this since I watched the moon landings. So I believe it will not be operational until 2050s. Because none of the equipment to actually build it has been invented and tested in space not to mention the man power for its construction and the ability to ferry the workers back to the ground on a regular basis. Even 2050 is a bit of a stretch. That said such a station would be awesome so I hope you all succeed.
Any update in if this is going through?
Our team is growing and we are working on details of the design elements right now. We hope to have an updated video in July.
@@TheGatewaySpaceport look forward to it
Space X just needs to launch two starships. Without fins or heat shields. They can maximize internal dimensions and have 10 floors of work space. They can tether the two Starships with a long cable at the nose and put them into a slow spin for onboard gravity. I think they should be able to achieve close to 1G.
This will be far healthier for the crew, especially for future long distance missions. Long range missions will not be possible if we do not develop the method in orbit now.
Yeah, I have actually seen SpaceX talk about this before and I have been renders of such a thing on UA-cam as well in the past and they look pretty good. I mean, it’s certainly risky, but for price saving it’s certainly worth a try. Plus, SpaceX isn’t exactly adherent to US laws, as they can still do a lot of what they want to do themselves, especially when it comes to being in space so they could give it a try.
@@danielwhyatt3278 The arguments against using Artificial Gravity are that it creates dizziness and off balance.
These experiments were done in a small radius of no more than 20 metres. The change in circular direction was way too fast. The ideal number of revolutions per minute needs to be about two or less.
Therefore SpaceX will need a tether wire rope of 1 kilometre. This will equate to 1.33 revolutions per minute to create 1G.
The tether must be at the nose of each StarShip.
❤❤❤ Well it’s about time we have another space race! This how technology are evolved and advanced! Hopefully if china gets serious enough space exploration which sounds like it is it might prompt us congress to pump more into space industry in America and around world
Restarting? What happened to orbital assembly?
Gateway Spaceport and Offworld Industries are not associated with Orbital Assembly in any way.
Glad I'm not the only one confused by this. I remember a couple years ago there was this whole thing about a netcapital campaign that came out, that John Blanko announced. I followed the link from that video, and invested. But on netcapital it says the company I invested in was orbital assembly. Wtf is going on?
@@TheGatewaySpaceport can you explain this?
@@jaredupchurch7819
Maybe he’s a great entrepreneur- starting a bunch of companies in the same industry, nothing is more engaging than competition and he/we wins either way? ;)
@@jaredupchurch7819 John Blincow left Orbital Assembly in April of 2021. Since that time, he has had no association with Orbital Assembly Corporation except as a shareholder. John learns about OAC's actions (mergers, pursuing NASA contracts) the same way as all stock owners do - via the US mail or emails.
John’s vision of creating large space stations, big modules, and spaceports has not changed. His pursuit of designing and building large-scale space construction machines has risen to another level since forming Offworld Industries corporation in mid-2022. This new corporation’s design is to form divisions that support a family of new space construction machines and tools that can revolutionize humankind's expansion into space.
The most valuable thing ever created in space was, and still is, habitation. Building large-scale habitation quickly and affordably is the key to rapid expansion. Our inability to do that is holding us back.
With Sargon Systems, and SpaceX Starship we can do it now, but If we don’t do it first, China will.
The big future in space is ours to have or to lose.
The recent news on NASA interest in using SpaceX Starship(s) as a future space station might help steer a path for future collaborations, likely as a later version. As NASA is a slow turtle on design changes, their initial goal is likely going to be proof of concepts. Eventual 'changes', or evolution, would be add more and more expansion modules, and getting into rotating infrastructures, that need supporting parts and HUB that marry/dock SpaceX Starships together. Possibly a slow track, but SpaceX does thing iteratively on a fast rack, especially when hot.
The station could thus be formed out of NASA guided Starship design(s), as a stamp of approval, radially connected together as labs, habitats, factories, and depots; with some Starships being of the Earth return variant as life boats (a separation of any lifeboat in any design will/may affect the stability of the rotating habitat). This avoids designing & doing it alone from scratch, and would better tie you to an accepted industry giant as a stake holder instead of just being a Starship user.
Can I repost the awesome space station video? I'll credit you!
yes
@@TheGatewaySpaceport Thank youuuuu! I'll credit you
Build a in space storage station for satellites, don't waste this resource thats in space. Building a company like this in space will attract company's to your service, think about it.
I'd gladly sell my house here for an apartment up there 🙂
& I'd gladly pay in advance before project starts so the money will be used for construction
but how much is it please ?
The answer is not another goverment pay role. the answer is private space mineing!
How would a wheel station keep its spin balance with people and cargo moving around?
Well for me to Believe in this Concept the World has to Develop the Space Construction Robot we Don't have one yet so its still only a far away Dream even China has sent made one Yet ??
China would have to steal the tech first
Why aren’t you working with NASA to getting things started?
It's not an issue of philosophies.
NASA can and has worked fast when it was properly funded. It literally went from trash tier rocket technology to the moon in a decade.
In comparioson the "rapid advancement" we're now seeing from the private sector is simoutaneously either of similar speed or slower and only dabble in technologies that have been developed by NASA in the past to the point where they have cleared the high failure rate and high cost initial phases, examples would be most aerospace tech, including vertical landing, semiconductor technology (the private sector used 50 years of research into material technology they'd never have done because it had no obvious final product and was high risk), medical technology, high energy physics, etc.
The reason we're seeing a general slowdown in the R&D of disruptive new technology is because the state has radically cut any research that's not directly related to the military to facilitate massive tax cuts for corporations and billionaires.
Space tech, cybernetics, nanotechnology and biotechnology have all suffered from this new prioritization of immediate growth of the extreme personal wealth for the few over advancement of our species.
We can have private investors and so forth but if we really want radical advancement that uses new groundbreaking technologies and not just refinement of old ones while new ones trickle in then from barely funded long term projects then we need to bring back the era of publicly funded R&D megaprojects. We need to get the state to get off it's high horse and abandon the cult of neoliberal austerity, investing in R&D which pays back in the long run.
Unfortunately, disruptive R&D needs pockets that are deep (many times a lot deeper than what any private entity can afford or are unwilling to invest such money due to the profits being too far down the line to be competitive) and stable. And the private sector has neither.
No, NASA can't work fast. That's not their purpose. NASA is a jobs program, that just so happens puts thing into space. X-33 was cancelled when it was found out that it would require 90% fewer people to launch it. Congress was not going to let that happen.
SpaceX would like a word with you
"NASA can and has worked fast when it was properly funded. It literally went from trash tier rocket technology to the moon in a decade."
But that was toward a very specific goal. The explicit 'before the decade is out,' and the implicit, but understood by all; 'and before the Soviets, whichever comes first.'
But that encouraged developing architectures that would get us there *soonest,* not the most sustainably. And then out only competitor dropped out, claiming to never having been in a 'race.' (the debris of multiple N1 launch attempts say different) So, we did what one naturally does after winning what was regarded as a race...we stopped.
@@jimmaag4274 1) SpaceX literally uses tech that had been developed into a working prototype in 1991 under public funding and direction. Without the Dc-X and the knowledge that was gained from it spaceX would have never developed vertical landing of reusable rockets.
Because doing so from scratch/ unproven concept would be too expensive and also too high risk to involve investors.
2) SpaceX also gets a lot of public money to stabilize the high risk business of space related R&D, if it was left on market forces alone the firm would have flopped at several high risk points it had gone through. Hence this actually proves my point.
3) Musk is notorious for creating his image of being "iron man" in fact that's his main strategy of raising the value of his stocks.
However a closer analysis of his tech shows a different picture.
Let's have a look
Tesla
Electric cars that in terms of tech just utilized what already existed at the time to make a product that could be brought to market as fast as possible, flaws be damned.
SpaceX
Use old NASA tech that was abandoned for a superior program of a fully reusable aerospike SSTO that was canceled by the bush administration at 95% completion for petty politics.
Hopwever musk used the fully developed tech of vertical landing and not the linear aerospike engine/lifting body vehicle combo that was far more varsatile and useful because he did not want to risk capital of developing that final 5%
(same goes with blue origin by the way)
The boring company
Literally a ploy to sell more teslas and dissuade the development of public transit, something that would lower tesla sales.
Neuralink
Sloppy BCI company that in terms of capabilities is decades behind current tech.
Company solely exists because musk bought quite a few publicly funded patents in BCI technology. The most egregious example is him buying a patent which would have revolutionized electrodes that he ended up putting in a vault and not using, patent locking tech that could have acellerated the progress in the field.
In all of these examples there's one governing ideology: "Be the first to bring a product that's deemed as futuristic into the market by cutting corners and taking shortcuts by settling with the use of current/immature tech to create an approximation of the promised final product with the goal of leveraging you being the first in the market to set the "standard" allowing you to prevent competitors of getting a proper foothold or have them pay you to function int eh infrastructure that was built with only you in mind"
A great example for that is how charging stations for elecctric cars in the US are basically "tesla only"
This is not technological innovation, this is the use of half measures to corner the market and in fact stifles innovation by making more advanced competitors econnomically unviable because they'd have to operate against the "standard"
@@stardolphin2
That was 60 years ago. Now it takes them 20 years and $50 + billion dollars to design a rocket derived from 50 year old shuttle technology. NASA's days as an innovator have long since passed.
Love what your all doing...This should have already been going on ( maybe it has ) 50 years ago...I REALLY want to help and donate , I totally love this cause and fully believe in it but after creating an account it won't let me log in and when I try it says that my E-mail and or user name is already being used...please help...tysm
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De la misma forma en que se construye una estación en el espacio; de la misma forma se construirán las futuras naves. Estas serán inmensas, la gravedad no será obstáculo y lo que vemos en Viaje a las Estrellas será realidad. Y todo gracias a la creatividad de Elon Musk. Y los demás? Como solamente quieren hacerse más ricos; ni siquiera comienzan y pues, NO HACEN NADA.
Everything fits
In the same way that a station is built in space; future ships will be built in the same way. These will be immense, gravity will not be an obstacle and what we see in Star Trek will be reality. And all thanks to the creativity of Elon Musk. And the others? Because they only want to get richer; they don't even start and well, THEY DO NOTHING.
Go for it it's about time Best of luck to all Best good structure wall Dan come on u man please saport this
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Si te falta financiamiento, por que no vendes acciones para ser compradas por cualquier familia en el mundo entero, digamos que vendes una accion por 20 dolares ...yo como arquitecto e interesado en la construccion espacial invertiria en su empresa digamos con mil dolares en acciones segun mi capacidad pero si una familia o persona a nivel mundial pudiera comprar una sola accion en su empresa ya tendria el capital para empezar....por que buscar a bezos o musk......busque al mundo entero a la familia comun y corriente de clase media somos nosotros quienes queremos viajar....
the virgo modul becomes obsolet when the starship is ready. the starship has 1000m3 of volume.
Virgo Module has 4800m3 of volume, it will not become obsolete, it will become the new standard in microgravity module station design.
Since SpaceX is making rapid progress in the development of Starship, I am sure that this project is capable of unfolding during the next decade, as long as the necessary funds are provided.
Go Go Go Gateway Spaceport !!! (set spellcheck to auto at 10:09, "The Kimball Physics teem") TEAM.
It will be the American industry that will lead the way into the future.
But held by the worlds shoulders and built by the worlds people.
@@RandomGamer-qy6ys
Don't worry they'll be paid. Those that Survive your points. ?
LOL no.
@@jamiemezs9891 space isn’t a place for America, it’s a place for the world. We can’t take countries outside the atmosphere and until people realise that it’s no longer Russia or china but planet earth and the humans we can’t do any good
@@RandomGamer-qy6ys
That's sweet but space is the new frontier for the new pioneers and adventurers and those that seek their fortune. And those that want to be in the history book.
I'm surprised that the Democrats are sending more money for smaller returns.
If you don't like something then leave.
@@peopleofearth6250
What and miss the fun 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@@jamiemezs9891 If you were actually having fun you'd be spending your time elsewhere instead of doing damage control.
@@peopleofearth6250
Sorry I don't do damage control like you democrats what. I have better things to do and I don't believe in wasting money on stupidity.
@@jamiemeza6148 Then why are you still sitting here doing damage control? 😏