7.0.3 Legion Fire Mage DPS How-to/Guide (Outdated)

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  • @kraks11
    @kraks11 8 років тому +3

    This was very helpful. Thank you! And you have a soothing voice

  • @Proshadows
    @Proshadows 8 років тому +2

    Finally!!! I've been waiting for a video so I can follow you... Ever since I found your video for warlords I've been copying your stats and talents and huge difference... Great video!!!

  • @ArtofAnimeS
    @ArtofAnimeS 8 років тому +1

    Well done explained everything properly, my Dps went up by alot! Many thanks!

  • @austin167
    @austin167 8 років тому +1

    Finally a good video for current patch!

  • @itsjustmitchyo
    @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому +11

    Apologies for the intro being +1000dB higher than the video itself.

    • @ban1811
      @ban1811 8 років тому

      can i open my rotation with fireball > runic instead of scorch ? and i always top dps at the beggining but when when i use all my cd's i have no dps at all can u tell me how can i sustain my dmg through the whole fight after using my all cd's ? great video btw keep it up ^^

    • @minamvier5455
      @minamvier5455 8 років тому

      Me too! :'(

  • @Edmizyn
    @Edmizyn 8 років тому +2

    thanks man, great guide

  • @Convescation
    @Convescation 8 років тому +14

    Great video man, and am I the only fire mage who HATES rune of power? It is way to much of a staple and kills the feel of the fast pace/mobile flow fire mages.

    • @kwhittington89
      @kwhittington89 8 років тому +4

      I feel like mechanics target me after I lay it down more often than when it isnt laid down

    • @brettpierce5225
      @brettpierce5225 8 років тому

      I hate it so much. So so much

    • @gunternetzer3300
      @gunternetzer3300 8 років тому

      Convescation same! thats why i use flow :)

  • @swaded777
    @swaded777 8 років тому

    an interesting interaction with cinderstorm and pyretic incantation which give a 5% bonus spell dmg stacking 5 times so if get a hot streak cast rop then cs and combust as before it hits making sure all hit u start with the max buff

  • @xRunie14x
    @xRunie14x 8 років тому +1

    Great video! Improved my dps :)

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      Glad to hear it!

    • @xRunie14x
      @xRunie14x 8 років тому

      which addons do you use for UI?

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      I use TellMeWhen for cooldown tracking as you see in the video!

  • @zpokie123
    @zpokie123 8 років тому +1

    a quick tip. if you have wriggeling senew you should allways run with cinderstorm since you want to line the trinket up with combustion every time to make that 2 million extra burst

  • @kazalovitch
    @kazalovitch 8 років тому +3

    well done man u are the only one described it right i was doing the same as you are, i got urself a sub please share more things about fire mages that can help peace

  • @shadowballen6463
    @shadowballen6463 8 років тому +1

    excellent video sir.

  • @rikachiu
    @rikachiu 8 років тому +3

    Thanks for the vid. I was wondering if you could go over cleave, 3+ targets, and burst aoe rotation as well? I will be main alting a mage for mythic + key cycling, and I feel AOE is more important for those type of runs. It would be much appreciated. Thanks!

  • @miqdadrashid7598
    @miqdadrashid7598 8 років тому +4

    Hey PREHEET, thanks for the video I had a question about sustained damage, I feel like the opener is very good on my part but I feel like I fall off in terms of competing with others in damage over the duration of the fight, what should I be timing in order to have sustained decent damage over the whole fight?

    • @miqdadrashid7598
      @miqdadrashid7598 8 років тому

      Do you mean Burning Gaze which increases crit by 1% per level of it for fire spells?

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      I think you're talking about the final Fire Artifact Trait. You unlock it by getting all of your traits, and then it becomes available (it's placed on your Off-Hand weapon).

  • @AswollAlpaca
    @AswollAlpaca 8 років тому

    from my understanding the opener is to pop your pot and precast pyroblast at 4 seconds, if you don't crit then use your scorch with your combust to get your free crit. You should use your RoP then soon as the cast is over pop combust then pyroblast, fireblast, pyroblast, fireblast, pyroblast, flame on, fireblast, pyroblast, fireblast, pyroblast, phoenix flames, pyroblast, phoenix flames pyroblast. I've never heard of precasting a scorch.
    The reason you use RoP into combust is because RoP will be end around the same time as your combust fades.

    • @FireLetemburnMage
      @FireLetemburnMage 8 років тому

      I personally open with fireball when fishing for an opening crit to apply conflag to the target before bursting.

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому +1

      As you see in the video my RoP and Combustion still run out at the same time. No difference

  • @jimbob3837
    @jimbob3837 8 років тому +2

    whats the name of the song in the intro?

    • @andyleigh1065
      @andyleigh1065 8 років тому +1

      [Glitch Hop] - Varien - Aether and Light

  • @leunamchavez4203
    @leunamchavez4203 8 років тому

    Any more charts/info from Frosted? For different classes, caps etc)

  • @robbyoung8102
    @robbyoung8102 8 років тому +1

    yo dude 855 fire mage here. this opener is a little clunky. it's always wise to start with a prepot pyro into combustion at the end of the cast. (castable whilst casting). then rune of power fire blast. pyro. fire blast. pyro. flame on. fire blast. pyro. fire blast. pyro. phoenix. pyro x3 then only use 2nd rune if bloodlust is on. if not save ur rune for flame on reset

  • @SilentHillDK
    @SilentHillDK 8 років тому

    Do you have links to the strings for your WeakAura ? I cant get it up and running proberbly on my setup unfortunately, and I like yours :-)

  • @ome601
    @ome601 8 років тому

    Regarding the last pulling rotation, would you not want to get rid of your phoenix flames during your second rune of power rather than filler casting fireballs?

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      You can, but RoP lasts 10 seconds, and if you can filler with Fireball/Pheonix Flames weaving, it's a DPS increase (think of it this way, you use your PF like a Fireblast to guarantee a Pyroblast proc)

  • @Khoragg
    @Khoragg 8 років тому

    I dont understand, why are the scorch and the fire ball at the beginning while Combustion is already active?? Not feeling like i understand the class more then you, im here cuz i feel im not doing very good dps and trying to improve in Emerald Nightmare Heroic atm, so ill be glad if u explain :)
    If u just jump (after activating rune/combustion) on double fire blast, pyro, flame on, blast, pyro, blast, pyro and then u will have more time from the Combustion left to start Phoenix Flames, pyro, Phoenix Flames, pyro, Phoenix Flames, pyro and maybe will manage to get 2 more Pyros guaranteed crits (out of the 3) before Combustion expires compared to your rotation.
    What do u think?
    Cheers on the video.

  • @mrsolo4819
    @mrsolo4819 8 років тому

    What is the potion name that u using ???

  • @bobbyplays2310
    @bobbyplays2310 8 років тому

    thanks man. needed more tips on fire mage. how long have u played a mage?

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      Been playing WoW since Burning Crusade, but only swapped to Mage at the start of Cataclysm

  • @en-doorproductions3477
    @en-doorproductions3477 8 років тому

    hey there you left me wondering: isnt it better to cast fireballs on the boss till heating up, fireblast and then cast rune + combustion since combustion and rune have te same cd. will test your method tomorrow ^^

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      Combustion and RoP don't have the same cooldown at all, and wasting a Fire Blast outside of your Combustion window is a waste of a potential Instant Pyro.

  • @blindmonk5135
    @blindmonk5135 8 років тому

    When i do my burst i use a fireball(until it crits) into fireblast to get a hot streak and go directly into my combustion rotation and that way I never had 2 cast a single spell more than my instant cast crit spells 2 have instant pyros throughout my entire combustion.
    How is using an inferno blast outside of combustion a waste when i can use FB/Phoenix flames to get instant pyros during the entire combustion?

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      PF takes a GCD where as Fireblast does not. Wasting a GCD during Combustion is a pretty big DPS loss, hence one of the main reasons we have a haste breakpoint

  • @patrickpodrygala952
    @patrickpodrygala952 8 років тому

    Hey is it possible for u to write down the rotation only the spells u are using in the right order !? will me very nice whish u nice day and thank you :D

  • @brettpierce5225
    @brettpierce5225 8 років тому

    What I want to know is after your opener, after you've dumped your fire blasts and phoenix flames, do you just spam fireballs until the next fireblast comes off CD, hoping for 2 fireball crits in a row?

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      I usually drop my second RoP and use the rest of my PF's weaved with Fireballs. Yes you gotta pray to RNJesus that you get crits, but with the amount of Crit we should have at this level of gear, it usually works out well. Just remember to cast a Fireball followed by your Instant Pyro instead of dumping your instant-casts right away!

  • @chetmanely4986
    @chetmanely4986 8 років тому

    How did you setup your hotbars? Is that through bartender?

  • @tyrhype540
    @tyrhype540 8 років тому

    What is your Xmog here? Looks fire af. I notice you don't have it anymore on your Dwarf.

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      Hahaha, that's my favourite Fire Mage Tmog! It's the Helm & Shoulders from Blackwing Descent, with the Infernoweave Boots, and Red pants & chest.

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      Plus, Dwarfs don't look very good with a lot of Tmogs, so I had to use another one :*(

  • @LuckyNumbrSlevin
    @LuckyNumbrSlevin 8 років тому

    You should update this, the optimal opener is vastly different and I'm sure it'd be helpful to future viewers

  • @UrueWhisperwind
    @UrueWhisperwind 8 років тому

    Does anyone else have issues with Fire Blast responding to your button press?

    • @lightknigh20
      @lightknigh20 8 років тому

      I've been having issues with flame on and my button press but not fire blast. I think it might be an issue on my part though. Try making sure you have it set to something very simple is all I can say. I've got mine on mouse wheel click..

  • @atomskthepirateking2776
    @atomskthepirateking2776 8 років тому

    what addon do you use for your action bars?

  • @gizanime782
    @gizanime782 8 років тому

    Tell me what im doing wrong, i hit Fire blast twice, then rune, then double phoenix flame, followed by flamestrike then if im close dragon breath if its an aoe pull of 3+ . Single I fireball, Blast if its crits then I rune, combustion, fireblast, pyro, flame on, FB, Pyro, FB, Pyro followed by Phoenix flames typically

    • @salilali2939
      @salilali2939 8 років тому

      The problem there is you lose out on all the extra dmg you could have been doing if you cast RoP at the start rather than waiting for a crit.
      If your rotation is based off of RNG, then there might be times when your DPS falls when compared to others ( unless you have a high crit ℅).
      If you change your rotation slightly such that you force a hot streak at the beginning then your openers will do consistent dmg all the time.

    • @gizanime782
      @gizanime782 8 років тому

      Pretty much every guide I've seen dosent start with rop

    • @salilali2939
      @salilali2939 8 років тому

      So I tried out the rotation that I was trying out vs this rotation.
      Mine: Cast pyro at 4 pull timer
      Force hot streak with Phoenix flames
      RoP with combustion at end of cast
      Combustion Rotation
      DPS was higher than this rotation.
      I tried out quite a few times such that I wouldn't count the pyro maniac procs.
      You should try out whichever rotation you come across to test out DPS. and test it out such that you don't involve RNG. :)

  • @wormslayer5
    @wormslayer5 8 років тому

    So lets say you've got no fire blasts and you're heating up. Do you stop casting fireball to use phoenix flames, or do you continue your cast and hope it crits?

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      if you're close enough to the boss, you can finish your Fireball cast and immediately cast a Phoenix Flames right after and it'll hit before the Fireball, giving you your crit. Play with the distance and see it for yourself. Takes some getting used too.

    • @wormslayer5
      @wormslayer5 8 років тому

      ***** Ah yeah, that makes sense. Thanks for the tip

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      No problem my man, anytime!

  • @joycevissers7426
    @joycevissers7426 8 років тому

    how do you walk casting fireball?

    • @jepakaj
      @jepakaj 8 років тому

      ice floes, talent

  • @manaraslespaul
    @manaraslespaul 8 років тому

    this a tricky spec.the hardest part is not to waste any phoenix flames or fire blast to get the max amount of pyros. plus you need 50% + crit. then ur dps starts to look good

  • @Temujim
    @Temujim 8 років тому

    Why the precast of RoP and a Scorch? O.o
    Not saying you're wrong, just not sure why.
    Right now I'm sticking with the old Pyro+Pot 4 secs before pull (Not for heroics and normal mythics). I only cast my RoP once i get my first Hot Streak and I'm ready to enter combustion.
    So my initial rotation would be.
    Pyro 4 secs pre pull (my cast time is at 4.2secs atm)
    PF at the end of Pyro (Usually here i get my hotstreak, if I dont i use 1 FB to proc it)
    RoP
    Combustion
    Pyro
    FB
    Pyro
    FB Flame On
    Pyro
    FB
    Pyro
    FB
    Pyro
    PF
    Pyro (combustion is usually fading here)
    PF
    Pyro
    After that I use my second RoP and start the usual rotation trying to proc as many pyros as possible in the RoP window.

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      Using RoP into a Scorch allows you to get your instant Pyroblast proc quicker, and better utilizes your burst windows while Combustion is active. If you wanted to change things up, instead of hard casting a Fireball like I do in the video, you could go straight into using your PF stacks and get your instant casts off that way. But for the most part you want to get as many pyro procs in your Combustion windows as possible.

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      Also, in your opener you're relying on your hardcasted Pyro to crit to begin your burst window, and if it doesn't crit you're using a PF + Fireblast combo to achieve an instant Pyroblast. If your method fails, you'd be delaying your burst window and effectively, you will have wasted 1 Fireblast stack which could have been used during your Combustion window to get an instant Pyro (remember that PF takes a GCD unlike FB, which is why it's essential to have all 4 (2 FB + 2 from Flame On) kept for your burst. This basically allows you to start your rotation immediately on the pull without relying on your Pyroblast to crit.

    • @Temujim
      @Temujim 8 років тому

      Buut how do you get the scorch to a 100% crit? I mean...it can fail too right?

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      Like I said in the video, you cast Scorch and use Combustion as it is about to go off. Unlike Fireball or Pyroblast, it has no travel time.

    • @Temujim
      @Temujim 8 років тому +1

      Aaaahh! Ok...Now I get it I think. haha!
      Will try it out, thanks!

  • @Manjgo
    @Manjgo 8 років тому

    Im 841 at the moment and my sustain DPS is around 130-170k dps... Is that too low for my ilvl or?...

  • @Juan-sq9hb
    @Juan-sq9hb 8 років тому

    Does RoP apply to LB if it is casted after?

    • @akashaaware3100
      @akashaaware3100 8 років тому +1

      Yes, and I recommend you cast it after applying the first LB. It may tick on the spread targets too early if you cast it before RoP.

  • @Trinshany
    @Trinshany 8 років тому

    What the difference between fire and arcane?

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      Arcane is based around Mana expenditure and conservation while Fire just burns everything to the ground :)

  • @jasonshub
    @jasonshub 8 років тому

    Can you help me? Please I am having a terrible time. I am 849 ilvl and talents are just like your video. I open up exactly as you and get to 174k. Something is terribly wrong. I dont know what to do. Been working all day on it and just at a loss.

    • @ydoicappa
      @ydoicappa 8 років тому

      Jason B you just check icy veins fire mage openers. this guy is doing wrong. first time you open with prepot then cast fireball into rune of power. if he crit blast comb.piro blast piro flame on blat piro blast piro phoenix piro phoenix piro. gg

  • @TheGrogin13
    @TheGrogin13 8 років тому

    Did you find it difficult to level with Fire?

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      I loved leveling as Fire, it was really fun.

  • @РоманКарташов-ъ2к
    @РоманКарташов-ъ2к 8 років тому +3

    Firestarter is useful while u fight Odin

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому +1

      Love little tips like this, thanks!

    • @reesercliff
      @reesercliff 7 років тому

      firestarter is also amazing for leveling, questing, or doing world quests since you are constantly fighting new mobs at full health.

  • @jordanwoods8417
    @jordanwoods8417 8 років тому

    i see u have 9 pecent mastery why is this just for the damage increase on pyro during your burst rotation?

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      Mastery falls off super hard on single target. It's lost a lot of it's value since the pre-patch.

  • @MegaHakim1999
    @MegaHakim1999 Рік тому

    I feel like even when you optimize the rotation, you're still quite behind in dps, like 350 k with combustion is very lacking, other specs with similar i level deal like 500 k up to a mill while you're stuck at 400k at best as a fire mage, it's a shame cause its by far the most fun dps spec I've ever played, like it's not overly complex but it's also not brain dead mash buttons either.

  • @traininngamin7094
    @traininngamin7094 8 років тому

    pop 3 Pheonix flames rune of power into fireball combust and use instant pyro then fireblasts pyro spam

    • @sinever8961
      @sinever8961 8 років тому

      That's what a scrub-tier fire mage does.

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      being scrub-tier is part of the learning process! :)

    • @sinever8961
      @sinever8961 8 років тому

      Indeed! I just meant to make sure that no one was reading that as how fire mages should be opening. Nothing wrong at all with being new to a spec, besides maybe fooling people into thinking that you aren't. Blowing phoenix flame charges all at once is a huge mistake. A potentially better opener is:
      Phoenix's Flames > Fire Blast >
      Rune of Power > (trinket) > Combust >
      Pyroblast > Fire Blast > Pyroblast >
      Flame On! > Fire Blast > Pyroblast >
      Fire Blast > Pyroblast > Phoenix's Flames >
      Pyroblast > Phoenix's Flames > Pyroblast
      Last pyro should be hitting right as combust is going down, and you have all your CDs working towards next blow phase.
      I'm a bit curious as to why I keep seeing everyone suggesting the use of scorch in the opener. Sure, it's a fast cast, but the damage per second spent on it is ABYSMAL and the same effect (with better damage) can be achieved by simply using a phoenix's flame at the start (you can only fit two phoenix flame charges in the combust rotation anyways).

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      I like it because you get your Combustion's cooldown rolling faster. I've done tests with multiple rotations and I feel like part of it comes down to playstyle and personal preference. The DPS gain or loss across all of the common openers atm are marginal. Basically if you get a Pryomaniac proc in your opener, gg.

  • @ciro8100
    @ciro8100 8 років тому

    excellent video friend, you could give me your weak auras? please?

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому +1

      Thanks man! I don't use WeakAuras, I use TellMeWhen. Check out my latest video, it's all about my UI and it includes a downloadable UI pack (PreUI v1.0) you can grab on Curse!

    • @ciro8100
      @ciro8100 8 років тому

      thanks man ^^
      good canal UA-cam

  • @kazalovitch
    @kazalovitch 8 років тому +2

    make your voice louder please thanks and gj

  • @MrTizy75
    @MrTizy75 8 років тому

    BIG VOLUME PROBLEM !!

  • @hallo11241
    @hallo11241 8 років тому

    At first if you prepot you dont use Pyro because you waste 2 seconds of the Pot and this is just not wort the extra damage of Pyro. so Just use Fireball instead. And your opener ist absolute bullshit
    Cast
    Pot
    Fireball
    rune
    Phoenix
    Fireball ( While flying comb if first fireball critet then you'r fine else use Fireblast )
    now start your pyro Fireplast combs until you run out of them and then use phoenix flame instead
    if your pulling with bloodlust / Heroism make sure you get a fireball crit before seting down your rune

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      Please see description. Also, Casting and then using Potion is a nono :)

  • @dewmguy
    @dewmguy 8 років тому

    you know that your mic is LITERALLY inaudible, right?

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      you know that it's been addressed 1000 times in the comments and in the description, right?

    • @dewmguy
      @dewmguy 8 років тому

      hahah

  • @insomx
    @insomx 8 років тому

    How do you have more stats than this guy who is ilvl 882
    eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/tarren-mill/Rikhlulz/advanced

    • @Icylind
      @Icylind 8 років тому +1

      Molten armor is shown on the video 15% more crit and not on the Armory

  • @themyii
    @themyii 8 років тому

    Definitively not the way to play mage atm. I'm not saying you are shit but before making a video do some research because a lot of people are gonna following this and it's wrong for the most part.
    Vykina/Lexi main mage in Method guild (World 2 this tier) do a peferct guide for mage in Legion: www.method.gg/board/showthread.php?18950-Lexi-s-Fire-Mage-Guide
    ua-cam.com/video/Y_pDQ7WlkZ4/v-deo.html
    This is the correct way to play mage.

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      Please read the description. This video was made when fishing for a Pyro with Scorch was viable. I have a new updated video on my channel about the proper rotation using the Wriggling Sinew trinket.

  • @Svanejeppe
    @Svanejeppe 8 років тому

    Please, watch your video for just a second before uploading.. It helps alot to figure out wether or not your sounds is completely inbalanced. Point is, make your voice more loud, have music as a BACKGROUND music, not.. what this is.. otherwise good video, thanks.

    • @itsjustmitchyo
      @itsjustmitchyo  8 років тому

      Please read the comments, it has been addressed already. Thank you though!

  • @IggyDashGamer
    @IggyDashGamer 8 років тому

    speak softer please