I also did not like the stock sound so much, but then I followed your instructions and played again the intro from Adele - Someone Like You. It really made a huge difference! Thanks.
great video. just shows how much you can turn bland sounds into really interesting ones! also, i think you would benefit hugely from a pop filter on your microphone
@@LiveKeyboardist unfortunately deleted the 2 old versions already but here is one of the new: ua-cam.com/video/tFxeQzL9__w/v-deo.html Now only my playing has to get way better 😅
Hmm. This definitely brought some life to it, so a great starting point. It's a little oversaturated IMO, as it gets a bit fuzzy when you lay into it. I'm struggling to figure out how to get it to sound dynamic while emphasizing clarity and "airiness". It's possible that the sampled audio doesn't have enough natural harmonics to reach the clarity I'm trying to achieve though...
You could pull back a bit in the saturation. At the end of the day, this is mostly upgrading a medium sample. That being said, I am curious if you end with a result you like. Definitely let me know what you come up with.
to add, no human can hit a note at the same precise velocity which is how ableton defaults each note (100 velocity) so it has no contrast which equals not sounding realistic. hope it helps!
@@blakehandson2790 Definitely worth a shot. I think I should do that more often now that Ableton makes it super easy to randomize in increasingly large but specified increments.
Great stuff, man! Can you make a detailed video on how to setup Ableton Live for playing live with a band, patches and all? I just can't seem to make sense of it!
Wonderful! But your description doesn’t mention what computer you’re using (mbp?) I’m using a very good dell 1540, and if I play more than 2 notes together on grand piano cpu goes 70-90%. What could I be doing wrong?
Thanks for reaching out. I am using a MBP with 16 gigs of ram. Windows machines are a bit out of my element. Do you have an issue playing the grand piano sound before you add the audio FX?
is this info dated? I recently did buy the ableton suite and the grand piano comes with all of that you mention, I think it's sounds pretty awesome.. coupled with the push 2 controler it's sounds so intricate and expressive.. I actually hated any piano synths until I tried this.. only problem I have is that I'd like the sustain to not be infinite so it cuts of on it's own after a few seconds.. it just never stops.. ok I like to keep the sustain on all the time it's fun :)
Hey, thanks for the tutorial! I was wondering if you could help me mix bass guitar with this Grand Piano? No matter how much I try, my bass guitar just drowns badly with this piano.
Why are this not default presets in Ableton Live - I want to play the piano not waste my time in something I have absolute no idea of what is. So many controls. Am I using the wrong software? Else good work.
Dennis, you are asking the right questions here. As far as if you’re using the right software, I think the software you choose to use at the end of the day is just personal preference. If you like able to workflow, I would stick around and just fill out your sound library with third-party instruments overtime. As far as presets go, if you’re looking for a great piano sound you can’t go wrong with any of the native instruments VST sounds. There are of course other options, I really like the grandeur. Also worth looking into addictive keys or keyscape. If you switch to another DAW some things will be better and some things will be worse.
Wow. Thanks for letting me know Reynald. That feels like such an honor. At home I call it improved stock piano, but if you want to call it LiveKeyboardist piano that would make me so happy. Glad you found this useful.
Man! Can’t find a video anywhere upon how so set up a sustain pedal connected to the keyboard that is midi controlling ableton. LIKE DOES ANYONE USE SUSTAIN PEDALS MUCH?
Hey Eric. I feel your frustration. Are you trying to use a midi pedal to control actual sustain on a piano patch, or would you like to map it to something else? I think the reason there aren’t a lot of tutorials explaining this is because by default sistine petals will control the sustain on your piano. If you can provide me a little bit more detail about what you’re trying to do, I’m confident I can help you figure that out
@@LiveKeyboardist Hey thanks for responding! I found out the problem. So I just wanted to use Ableton's stock piano patch to play and record piano. My setup was a keyboard with its sustain pedal connected to the computer via USB midi. WHAT HAPPEND WAS I WASN'T GETTING ANY SUSTAIN BECAUSE I WAS PRESSING THE SUSTAIN PEDAL BEFORE HITTING RECORD. Because of that, Ableton was reversing the polarity of the pedal. SO MY PROBLEM WAS THAT I WAS EITHER SWITCHING THE POLARITY OF THE PEDAL OR I WAS JUST DISABLING IT SOMEHOW. ??? I works fine now that I got that rule down. HEY THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY MAN. Because you seemed really helpful I subscribed upon reading your reply to me earlier. ;)
Hey Erick. Thanks for keeping me posted with your progress. Really happy to have you as a subscriber, and glad to here you worked out the sustain pedal problem.
Man, I must be tone deaf. I followed everything you said. But then we got to the point "Here's without it.... Then here's with it". What exactly am I listening for here?! I can't hear anything different :(
Tokyo Dawn Labs has both an EQ and a compressor if you need them (both great and free). Also, remember that Ableton Lite version doesn't have a saturator (idk where you can find one tho). Btw, while the final result of this video is better than the raw piano, i'd not say it's great (no ofense to the creator of the video. I think he did a great job but the stock piano is pretty bad), so don't worry if you can't replicate this. If you need a good free piano, you could grab Piano1 (that's the name of the plugin) or the lite edition of the Production Voices' Grand Piano. Both are compatible with the Ableton Lite version, as well with othes DAW's
@@alejo5007 Thanks for the other sound modules. I actually have Addictive Keys as well but I use Ableton 10 lite because it came with my Novation. I will definitely check out the Production Voices as that looks interesting.
THE chaining of eqalizers and duplication of saturator made me feel really unconfortable. I think the sound got worse from your process. The only thing that is getting improved by each step of nonsense you're doing is the way you play samples of music to test the sound, they're becoming more elaborate and tricking your brain into thinking the sound got better. Just play one note without any emphasis for the a/b comparison and focus on the timbrical changes to notice you're just sprypainting a shit and adding digital clipping cracks between devices in the chain, maybe notice the cracks from your voice in the microphone too. The piano rack is already provided with coloring tools that are basically the same you used but already set up and tuned for the case, maybe you can get a better result by further tuning some parameters in the rack devs instead of wasting cpu like that outside of it 👌✌
the reverb at the end made the most difference in clarity! awesome
I also did not like the stock sound so much, but then I followed your instructions and played again the intro from Adele - Someone Like You. It really made a huge difference! Thanks.
im starting to learn ableton and i appreciate very much these tutorials!
Thanks for commenting. Glad you are finding this helpful.
great video. just shows how much you can turn bland sounds into really interesting ones!
also, i think you would benefit hugely from a pop filter on your microphone
Glad you enjoyed! Just received a pop filter in the mail today!
LiveKeyboardist nice!
I always wanted this kind of trick ...🙌
Thank you so much!
I will definitely upload a before/after version of my piano video that I uploaded yesterday.
+you have a new Subscriber👍
Happy you found this helpful. Leave a link here so I can check it out.
@@LiveKeyboardist unfortunately deleted the 2 old versions already but here is one of the new: ua-cam.com/video/tFxeQzL9__w/v-deo.html
Now only my playing has to get way better 😅
Thank you so much for this! So helpful! You are so talented!
Nice video! I should stop looking for third party plugins, and start using Ableton stock ones!
The best sounds are the ones you already have for sure! Thanks for commenting! What piano sounds have you already been using?
Hmm. This definitely brought some life to it, so a great starting point. It's a little oversaturated IMO, as it gets a bit fuzzy when you lay into it. I'm struggling to figure out how to get it to sound dynamic while emphasizing clarity and "airiness". It's possible that the sampled audio doesn't have enough natural harmonics to reach the clarity I'm trying to achieve though...
You could pull back a bit in the saturation. At the end of the day, this is mostly upgrading a medium sample. That being said, I am curious if you end with a result you like. Definitely let me know what you come up with.
Randomize the velocity. It’s akin to humanizing piano roll notes in logic. **if you haven’t tried it out already! 🙂
to add, no human can hit a note at the same precise velocity which is how ableton defaults each note (100 velocity) so it has no contrast which equals not sounding realistic. hope it helps!
@@blakehandson2790 Definitely worth a shot. I think I should do that more often now that Ableton makes it super easy to randomize in increasingly large but specified increments.
@@blakehandson2790 all ableton instruments should by default be velocity sensitive (mapped to volume) if your midi keyboard/controller has it :)
awesome super high yield, I like what you playing the piano sounds like.
Thanks Jov. Glad you found this helpful.
Great stuff, man! Can you make a detailed video on how to setup Ableton Live for playing live with a band, patches and all? I just can't seem to make sense of it!
Glad you enjoyed! This video has been requested a few times. It will be out in in a few weeks! Keep an eye out for it.
pro tip: get a POP filter for your mic
Great stuff. Thank you! Subbed
Happy to help! And so glad to have you on board!
Honestly... as long it's inspiring to play, it should be fine. I always have to tweak things in the context of the mix!
Excellent thank you so much 👏
These were excellent tips.
Thanks for the video!
This is an awesome tutorial , thank you so much ❤️
My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed!
My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed!
Wicked thankyou
Thank you so much for this!
what the fuck dude im just pressing buttons on my gaming keyboard and this shit sounds beautiful as fuck bro
this is great, thanks!
Star, thanks for the tips!
Happy to help! Glad you enjoyed.
Thank You! You saved my song!
Happy to help!
This is incredible Damn!!! thank you so much
Wonderful! But your description doesn’t mention what computer you’re using (mbp?)
I’m using a very good dell 1540, and if I play more than 2 notes together on grand piano cpu goes 70-90%. What could I be doing wrong?
Thanks for reaching out. I am using a MBP with 16 gigs of ram. Windows machines are a bit out of my element. Do you have an issue playing the grand piano sound before you add the audio FX?
QUESTION: Why don't I have as many folders in audio effects? I don't even have the Spectrum
Do u have the standard Edition
Thanks...really loved it :)
Happy to hear it! Glad you found this helpful!
Awesome vid !
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed!
Amazing!
sick. great sound. stock plugins ftw
Thank you.
Can i connect an electric piano to the focusrite scarlett solo "instrument input" and use the "grand piano sample" from ableton program? Thanks.
This is very helpful
Happy to help!
Damn that worked like a charm lol
Thank you!
Happy you found this helpful!
Super Dope!
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for commenting!
Amazing!!!!
So glad you like it! Thanks for commenting.
Jesus, this is great!
Glad you found this helpful!
Wow
is this a midi track or audio?
is this info dated? I recently did buy the ableton suite and the grand piano comes with all of that you mention, I think it's sounds pretty awesome.. coupled with the push 2 controler it's sounds so intricate and expressive.. I actually hated any piano synths until I tried this.. only problem I have is that I'd like the sustain to not be infinite so it cuts of on it's own after a few seconds.. it just never stops.. ok I like to keep the sustain on all the time it's fun :)
Yea Live suite has some great pianos, I think he used these tricks on the piano that come with Ableton Live intro and standard
Hi, I have a midi controller without sustain socket, can you give me solution so that i can play sustained piano in Abbleton live session?
Hey, thanks for the tutorial! I was wondering if you could help me mix bass guitar with this Grand Piano? No matter how much I try, my bass guitar just drowns badly with this piano.
Why are this not default presets in Ableton Live - I want to play the piano not waste my time in something I have absolute no idea of what is. So many controls. Am I using the wrong software? Else good work.
Dennis, you are asking the right questions here. As far as if you’re using the right software, I think the software you choose to use at the end of the day is just personal preference. If you like able to workflow, I would stick around and just fill out your sound library with third-party instruments overtime. As far as presets go, if you’re looking for a great piano sound you can’t go wrong with any of the native instruments VST sounds. There are of course other options, I really like the grandeur. Also worth looking into addictive keys or keyscape. If you switch to another DAW some things will be better and some things will be worse.
Can you setup piano v2 plugin on ableton ?
hm, i dont have a spectrum in lite i guess
Hi. What do you call this piano patch? Because I just followed this tutorial and made it part of my collection and I want to name it.. Thanks...
Wow. Thanks for letting me know Reynald. That feels like such an honor. At home I call it improved stock piano, but if you want to call it LiveKeyboardist piano that would make me so happy. Glad you found this useful.
@@LiveKeyboardist Oh yeah. I think I prefer to name it LiveKeyboarist piano. Thank you so much!
Man! Can’t find a video anywhere upon how so set up a sustain pedal connected to the keyboard that is midi controlling ableton. LIKE DOES ANYONE USE SUSTAIN PEDALS MUCH?
Hey Eric. I feel your frustration. Are you trying to use a midi pedal to control actual sustain on a piano patch, or would you like to map it to something else? I think the reason there aren’t a lot of tutorials explaining this is because by default sistine petals will control the sustain on your piano. If you can provide me a little bit more detail about what you’re trying to do, I’m confident I can help you figure that out
@@LiveKeyboardist Hey thanks for responding! I found out the problem. So I just wanted to use Ableton's stock piano patch to play and record piano. My setup was a keyboard with its sustain pedal connected to the computer via USB midi. WHAT HAPPEND WAS I WASN'T GETTING ANY SUSTAIN BECAUSE I WAS PRESSING THE SUSTAIN PEDAL BEFORE HITTING RECORD. Because of that, Ableton was reversing the polarity of the pedal. SO MY PROBLEM WAS THAT I WAS EITHER SWITCHING THE POLARITY OF THE PEDAL OR I WAS JUST DISABLING IT SOMEHOW. ??? I works fine now that I got that rule down. HEY THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY MAN. Because you seemed really helpful I subscribed upon reading your reply to me earlier. ;)
Hey Erick. Thanks for keeping me posted with your progress. Really happy to have you as a subscriber, and glad to here you worked out the sustain pedal problem.
How do you save all the effects altogether and have the presets ready?
right corner you can save the group as a preset
@@rosettag7292 Thank you
Man, I must be tone deaf. I followed everything you said. But then we got to the point "Here's without it.... Then here's with it". What exactly am I listening for here?! I can't hear anything different :(
Nothing you can do to make me like the Ableton Piano sound xD lol
So none of these are in the Lite version, am I right?
Unfortunately, that is correct. That being said you can find free VST‘s on the Internet that will do similar things to the built-in sounds
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Can this work in the lite version of Abelton?
Hey Matt! Yes. You will need to swap EQ 8 for EQ 3 (or another EQ) and use the regular compressor instead of glue compressor.
Tokyo Dawn Labs has both an EQ and a compressor if you need them (both great and free). Also, remember that Ableton Lite version doesn't have a saturator (idk where you can find one tho). Btw, while the final result of this video is better than the raw piano, i'd not say it's great (no ofense to the creator of the video. I think he did a great job but the stock piano is pretty bad), so don't worry if you can't replicate this. If you need a good free piano, you could grab Piano1 (that's the name of the plugin) or the lite edition of the Production Voices' Grand Piano. Both are compatible with the Ableton Lite version, as well with othes DAW's
@@LiveKeyboardist Awesome thank you!
@@alejo5007 Thanks for the other sound modules. I actually have Addictive Keys as well but I use Ableton 10 lite because it came with my Novation. I will definitely check out the Production Voices as that looks interesting.
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My Ableton 11 doesnt have this devices in stock...
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THE chaining of eqalizers and duplication of saturator made me feel really unconfortable. I think the sound got worse from your process. The only thing that is getting improved by each step of nonsense you're doing is the way you play samples of music to test the sound, they're becoming more elaborate and tricking your brain into thinking the sound got better. Just play one note without any emphasis for the a/b comparison and focus on the timbrical changes to notice you're just sprypainting a shit and adding digital clipping cracks between devices in the chain, maybe notice the cracks from your voice in the microphone too. The piano rack is already provided with coloring tools that are basically the same you used but already set up and tuned for the case, maybe you can get a better result by further tuning some parameters in the rack devs instead of wasting cpu like that outside of it 👌✌
Pretty common to chain eqs but I’m not sure about saturators. Anyway the sound of the piano got better so whatever how you do it the results are there
Nice video! I should stop looking for third party plugins, and start using Ableton stock ones!