Cool stuff. It would be interesting to take someone not accustomed to, or not good at shot shaping, and have Mac manipulate their setup to see if they can create these shots. Maybe not the extremes done here, but to still have other options than their standard.
This man is literally an artist with the way he can work the ball. It is more comparable to a magician than a golfer, but he is here revealing his secrets.
He needs a channel with range work and course vlogs. Love watching Mac play. Would like to see more of what he works on at the range or swing thoughts, etc. He seems like Bubba, just knows what needs to happen and does that but even listening to Bubba talk through his thoughts in the swing are helpful.
In the next live, I'd be interested in hearing you discuss how you fit a player like Mac, who doesn't like to hit a straight shot, and can move it both ways in the extreme. You've said you the past you don't normally fit someone trying to work the ball, when they're typical ball flight is straight, you fit to the straight ball and then if they can move it how they want on top of that, kind of the icing on the cake if I remember correctly. Seems to be a wildly different scenario with someone like Mac. Though, this video really does a great job of illustrating how simple it can be to shape, if you can get your alignment down to control path, all you have to do is setup with the correct face angle. Really insightful
I read Golf My Way in the mid-80s and Jack had a very simple explanation for why balls fly curve - any swipe of the face across the ball, intentional or not, tilts the spin axis creating a lift differential on the ball similar to an airplane wing in a banked turn. He made me understand you don’t change the swing, just stance direction, face angle. It is pretty easy to understand what affect stance and face have on ball flight if one variable is changed at a time. Warm up hitting balls straight ahead then just face more to the right and hit balls straight right, focusing on coming out of the swing facing right not twisting back to look at the target in the center. Once you are hitting the balls consistently down the adjusted swing line then start incrementally closing the face at address and observe how that affects the direction the ball starts on and how much it curves back. What works on the range with range balls off mats will need to be recalibrated when using game balls because ball speed and spin lift will be greater and balls will curve back more. When stance is adjusted to the extreme of 45° open or close the difference between a premium ball with Urethane cover is seen. To paraphrase Trevino, it is possible to talk back a fade from a 45° open stance with a ProV1 but a Pinnacle Gold just won’t listen.
Genuinely can't explain it but when i try and play like this it works... so much freedom of movement imagining the shot, not the mechanics. Strike improves and so do misses!! Cheers guys! Cracking vid!
I was the same way Mac. Felt growing up I always tried to perfect hitting it straight, but watching your videos on instagram, it allowed me to start being creative and my misses are way tighter being able to sling the golf ball from left to right or right to left. Thanks
Love seeing Mac back on the channel making the ball move! After the last time he was on, I got stuck behind a tree, and my buddy thought I couldn’t make the green. I hit a massive slinger out and around the trees to the green! Mac’s right, it’s so great that there are so many ways to play!
On a Mac Boucher binge currently... Thing I always struggle with is when I aim down the fade side, I push path from in to out. One of my goals for 2022 is committing to the path.
It’s funny that this video just came out. I’ve started playing golf this way now as a “standard” shot just never made sense to me. I was a 11 handicap and finally shot my first even round and down to a 4. Golf just feels so fixed in what looks good as opposed to what works.
Tried the concept today at the range and too my surprise - it worked out! Half the speed and distance (of course) but I did shape my shots, thanks for the help 🙏 👍
This is so good. I’ve watched all of these Ball striking and driver fitting with Ian and Mac (et Al). Wonderful stuff. Gotta get this to the range. I’m especially happy to learn more about dynamic loft and how face angle can be manipulated (shaft lean and hand position) differently with shallower and deeper angles of attack. Wonderful.
Seriously. Mac said he swings down his toe line - so this path is 100% neutral to his toes, not in-to-out nor out-to-in. The GC quad defines the target line. He lines his toe line up 30 degrees left of the target... GC quad says his path is 30 degrees in-to-out - but his swing is 100% neutral. Close the club face (either with grip at setup or dynamically with wrists near impact) ball starts out 15 degrees left with spin to bring it back. I've got it, right? Swap it all around for a lefty cut/slice.
His club face at address also looks closed when he was hitting the fades which means he’d have to time the opening of the face with each swing. Crazy skill.
V insightful makes it seem so simple definitely going to try. I can do the loopey draw shot with a closed set up and shallow plane but keen to try the high fades and cuts. If it wasn’t for these great videos I wouldn’t understand how to try and play for these shapes!
One thing I’d like to hear more about is ball position. Shifting swing direction and path generally moves the low point. It looks like there’s some subtle changes to his ball position here - slightly back of center for the slinger and slightly forward of center for the cut.
This guy plays how golf was meant to be played. Only modern golf do we focus on hitting straight, back then balls spun so much every shot had crazy shape
Slinger: no sweat - Slider not so easy 4 me! Gonna spend this season developing a cut I feel good about using. Can cut my driver but not the irons. Gr8 content.
Mac, you mentioned you dont try to change swing path in your swing but just open up/close w your setup. What do you do to influence club face closure? Amount of forward shaft lean?
If Mac target line with his feet, hips shoulders are to the extreme in relationship to the flag, where is the club face pointing before the swing starts? at the target? In a line with the starting point? Same directions as his feet, hips and shoulders?
Does the GC quad not allow for a left hand hitter? You graphics are backwards (right handed) which makes it difficult to actually see the physics of what's going on for trying to learn this material.
Looks like he follows the 50 percent face/path method to get predictable curves. I wish he would tell us his relationship of aim in yards left/right and corresponding face. Awesome talent
I play the exact same way as Mac and no one could fit me for new golf clubs I was on my own because I "did not" have a traditional golf swing... I was in the same shoes as mac always trying to hit that perfectly straight shot and it just was not coming so I thought how do I make this work for me and the simple solution was to stop trying to hit straight and do what feels natural and I have never looked back. It's hard to fully understand how such and awkward swing can work but it does.
I kind of got a request, I like how Mac played the game and this fits my style of play. I just have one problem… I set my face angles in all kinds of directions and pretty much swing with an open stance all the time, but my face angles can look extremely strange at address sometimes. Is there a way you could show his face angles in relation to his open stance for a variety of shots. I just hit it how I want to and it works for me. I have some buddies that have made Valero cut etc. and they are like what are you doing. I don’t want to be a robot, if I want to shut the face down and hit a 60* 115-120, that is what I want to do and it works, but the angles I play look so strange to my buddies. I hit fades and draws with open stance, just open or close the face, is this what he does.
I think the ball leaves on the swing path line then curves on the face angle. When referenced on the taget line: Swing in-to-out, with a closed face... the ball will begin with a push and be drawn back on the face angle
And that’s why we done this video because lots of people “think” the ball starts on the path line, it actually doesn’t, the ball starts closer to the clubface. Between 80/90% depending on the loft on the club.
My normal shot shape is laser straight but I use draws and fades to blend my club distances and to bend it around obstacles, hold it against wind etc. It seems quite natural but it's a bit of a brain bender to describe to someone the theory. Thanks for the replies
Great vid U should always be trying new things On the range hopefully For example , I went back to baseball grip. After 3 rounds, went from 11 handicap to a 9. Finally confident hitting ball. Not saying baseball grip works for you but try different things, especially as an amateur. Not everything pros are doing on tour or on range will work for u.
This question might be best asked in a "Monday Live", but since I can never seem to participate live, I'll ask it here: Is a "low spin" ball "less workable" / "more forgiving" (whichever way you prefer to think about it) than a "high spin" ball? In my mind, if a ball spins less overall given the same delivery, it would mean less curvature as well. Would love to know your thoughts and experience. Thank you!
Balls spin more or less the same off a driver (check out old videos on the channel, they’re within a few hundred rpm’s of each other), so the biggest concern would be with mid irons with regards to curvature. Low spin balls do spin noticeably less, but that spin affects many things. For instance, less spin at the same launch and speed (probably) means more distance. If the ball travels further in the air, it has more time to go off line, so less spin could actually lead to more terrible
Set the camera behind him so we can see his swing path away from and back down. Then show the shot from the side so we can see his body movement better
You guys should do a breakdown video of Phil’s comment that’s circulating on every social media platform. I.e., “wedge in the morning goes 120.. ball warms up, grain into you.. ball sitting up on grass or a tee, the CG is below ball, goes farther.” Etc etc.
The over exaggerating of it is a good way for a player to learn the feeling of working the ball but these are more like Instagram shots lol..the room for error is massive compared to a controlled fade or draw.
I will give this a go the next time that I am on the range, but I have a fear that it will either melt what little brain cells that I have left, or will destroy my 7 Iron🤦♂🤦♂🤣🤣
Cool stuff. It would be interesting to take someone not accustomed to, or not good at shot shaping, and have Mac manipulate their setup to see if they can create these shots. Maybe not the extremes done here, but to still have other options than their standard.
I volunteer as tribute lol
I second this!
Doubt it. To control it like this is wild.
This man is literally an artist with the way he can work the ball. It is more comparable to a magician than a golfer, but he is here revealing his secrets.
Always love the comment "the face sends it, the path bends it"!
He needs a channel with range work and course vlogs. Love watching Mac play. Would like to see more of what he works on at the range or swing thoughts, etc. He seems like Bubba, just knows what needs to happen and does that but even listening to Bubba talk through his thoughts in the swing are helpful.
He posts a lot on instagram
Ive found that once i started practicing shot shaping my impact improved across the board.
Ian at his very best explaining curvature and shot shape. Brilliant scientist. Phd level lesson. Extremely well done. 🙌🙌🙌💯💯💯👍👍
Mac is an absolute legend! His signature ‘Slinger’ glove by Invictus is a thing of beauty
In the next live, I'd be interested in hearing you discuss how you fit a player like Mac, who doesn't like to hit a straight shot, and can move it both ways in the extreme. You've said you the past you don't normally fit someone trying to work the ball, when they're typical ball flight is straight, you fit to the straight ball and then if they can move it how they want on top of that, kind of the icing on the cake if I remember correctly. Seems to be a wildly different scenario with someone like Mac.
Though, this video really does a great job of illustrating how simple it can be to shape, if you can get your alignment down to control path, all you have to do is setup with the correct face angle. Really insightful
I read Golf My Way in the mid-80s and Jack had a very simple explanation for why balls fly curve - any swipe of the face across the ball, intentional or not, tilts the spin axis creating a lift differential on the ball similar to an airplane wing in a banked turn. He made me understand you don’t change the swing, just stance direction, face angle.
It is pretty easy to understand what affect stance and face have on ball flight if one variable is changed at a time. Warm up hitting balls straight ahead then just face more to the right and hit balls straight right, focusing on coming out of the swing facing right not twisting back to look at the target in the center. Once you are hitting the balls consistently down the adjusted swing line then start incrementally closing the face at address and observe how that affects the direction the ball starts on and how much it curves back.
What works on the range with range balls off mats will need to be recalibrated when using game balls because ball speed and spin lift will be greater and balls will curve back more. When stance is adjusted to the extreme of 45° open or close the difference between a premium ball with Urethane cover is seen. To paraphrase Trevino, it is possible to talk back a fade from a 45° open stance with a ProV1 but a Pinnacle Gold just won’t listen.
Genuinely can't explain it but when i try and play like this it works... so much freedom of movement imagining the shot, not the mechanics. Strike improves and so do misses!! Cheers guys! Cracking vid!
Need a lot more of him on the channel. So much to learn from him that all of us on here would benefit from.
His shot shape ability is amazing. The explaining is simple. Man, Mark and Ian are q good teaching combo
I was the same way Mac. Felt growing up I always tried to perfect hitting it straight, but watching your videos on instagram, it allowed me to start being creative and my misses are way tighter being able to sling the golf ball from left to right or right to left. Thanks
Love seeing Mac back on the channel making the ball move! After the last time he was on, I got stuck behind a tree, and my buddy thought I couldn’t make the green. I hit a massive slinger out and around the trees to the green! Mac’s right, it’s so great that there are so many ways to play!
On a Mac Boucher binge currently... Thing I always struggle with is when I aim down the fade side, I push path from in to out. One of my goals for 2022 is committing to the path.
It’s funny that this video just came out. I’ve started playing golf this way now as a “standard” shot just never made sense to me.
I was a 11 handicap and finally shot my first even round and down to a 4. Golf just feels so fixed in what looks good as opposed to what works.
Great video - massively underrated by the views!
Tried the concept today at the range and too my surprise - it worked out! Half the speed and distance (of course) but I did shape my shots, thanks for the help 🙏 👍
This is so good. I’ve watched all of these Ball striking and driver fitting with Ian and Mac (et Al). Wonderful stuff. Gotta get this to the range. I’m especially happy to learn more about dynamic loft and how face angle can be manipulated (shaft lean and hand position) differently with shallower and deeper angles of attack. Wonderful.
Lefty draws and fades it.. never been more confused about shot shaping 😅
Finally, a lefty giving instructions!!! Need to see more of this!
Dude is unreal 👍🏻
Love watching him hit the golf ball
This guy is an absolute magician... fun to watch.
Good to see Mac is part of the team!
Mac is the shot shaping 🐐
Pure artistry.
More Mac! More Cynthia! More TXG! #slingersnsliders
Incredible talent and analysis! So entertaining.
Best video yet. 👏🏼
Looks like a super fun way to play golf. It's incredible how he can make those extreme swings consistently and come out with amazing results.
he doesn't have any good results to my knowledge. relies far too much on timing to be successful competitively
Love all of the content with Mac
i love watching mac
Ian's 2022 polo game is on point!
great video!! definitely will be trying some of these shots
Great video..gives us a lot to think and work on in ones game to reach the uppper level of the Golf Game..Thanks....
Seriously. Mac said he swings down his toe line - so this path is 100% neutral to his toes, not in-to-out nor out-to-in. The GC quad defines the target line. He lines his toe line up 30 degrees left of the target... GC quad says his path is 30 degrees in-to-out - but his swing is 100% neutral. Close the club face (either with grip at setup or dynamically with wrists near impact) ball starts out 15 degrees left with spin to bring it back. I've got it, right? Swap it all around for a lefty cut/slice.
that was essentially Trevino's method as well
His club face at address also looks closed when he was hitting the fades which means he’d have to time the opening of the face with each swing. Crazy skill.
Simply amazing Mac
V insightful makes it seem so simple definitely going to try. I can do the loopey draw shot with a closed set up and shallow plane but keen to try the high fades and cuts. If it wasn’t for these great videos I wouldn’t understand how to try and play for these shapes!
Great video guys, love the content with Mac!
So much fun to watch him hit and have Ian break down the swing details.
I’d love to see a course Vlog with Mac, with shot tracers of course!
Possibly the most entertaining and interesting golfer I’ve seen on UA-cam.
He does a daily hole vlog on insta
Watching Mac sling it around is incredible, great to see a lefty putting on a clinic.
One thing I’d like to hear more about is ball position. Shifting swing direction and path generally moves the low point. It looks like there’s some subtle changes to his ball position here - slightly back of center for the slinger and slightly forward of center for the cut.
What a fantastic video!
Face sends it, path bends it.
Mac is an effing wizard!
This guy plays how golf was meant to be played. Only modern golf do we focus on hitting straight, back then balls spun so much every shot had crazy shape
What shot tracer app would you guys recommend?
Great video! Definitely going to try this out when the range opens here and I'll hopefully have some cool videos to send you guys
That final shot Mac hit was very cool…
Very nice! Can we see this with driver and fairway woods?
Great stuff but would really like to see a proper DTL view of each of these swings.
Slinger: no sweat - Slider not so easy 4 me! Gonna spend this season developing a cut I feel good about using. Can cut my driver but not the irons. Gr8 content.
Can you please have Mac try to replicate Bubba's shot at Augusta in 2012?
Thank you from East Canada. Your chart shows a right handed club
That’s just the default software.
@@ianfrasergolf thank you Ian
Mac, you mentioned you dont try to change swing path in your swing but just open up/close w your setup. What do you do to influence club face closure? Amount of forward shaft lean?
He's amazing!
For the slinging hook with a closed stance, where is best for ball position? Is it forward or just standard?
Love it.
Awesome!
All of Macs IG haters need to watch this. Good video guys. My guy 1 take Mac. Throwing darts 🎯
If Mac target line with his feet, hips shoulders are to the extreme in relationship to the flag, where is the club face pointing before the swing starts? at the target? In a line with the starting point? Same directions as his feet, hips and shoulders?
Does the GC quad not allow for a left hand hitter? You graphics are backwards (right handed) which makes it difficult to actually see the physics of what's going on for trying to learn this material.
Ugh Mac is so good man….
Just to clarify, open and close the stance but keep the face looking at the target correct?
Any chance of a Gen 5 review of the new PXG clubs?
Looks like he follows the 50 percent face/path method to get predictable curves. I wish he would tell us his relationship of aim in yards left/right and corresponding face. Awesome talent
I play the exact same way as Mac and no one could fit me for new golf clubs I was on my own because I "did not" have a traditional golf swing... I was in the same shoes as mac always trying to hit that perfectly straight shot and it just was not coming so I thought how do I make this work for me and the simple solution was to stop trying to hit straight and do what feels natural and I have never looked back. It's hard to fully understand how such and awkward swing can work but it does.
You can tell it's a Canadian UA-cam channel because it actually has quite a few lefties.
Amazing.
which ball and why does he use it?? thank you~
I kind of got a request, I like how Mac played the game and this fits my style of play. I just have one problem… I set my face angles in all kinds of directions and pretty much swing with an open stance all the time, but my face angles can look extremely strange at address sometimes. Is there a way you could show his face angles in relation to his open stance for a variety of shots. I just hit it how I want to and it works for me.
I have some buddies that have made Valero cut etc. and they are like what are you doing. I don’t want to be a robot, if I want to shut the face down and hit a 60* 115-120, that is what I want to do and it works, but the angles I play look so strange to my buddies. I hit fades and draws with open stance, just open or close the face, is this what he does.
I guess I’m saying, what does his face angle look like from his eyes?
Nuts....absolutely nuts! haha 🤣🤣🤣
Mac is one of the few golfers that legally carries 28 clubs in the bag
I think the ball leaves on the swing path line then curves on the face angle. When referenced on the taget line: Swing in-to-out, with a closed face... the ball will begin with a push and be drawn back on the face angle
And that’s why we done this video because lots of people “think” the ball starts on the path line, it actually doesn’t, the ball starts closer to the clubface. Between 80/90% depending on the loft on the club.
Face is king. A perfect draw is hit with an open clubface (relative to the target line). Opposite for a fade
My normal shot shape is laser straight but I use draws and fades to blend my club distances and to bend it around obstacles, hold it against wind etc. It seems quite natural but it's a bit of a brain bender to describe to someone the theory. Thanks for the replies
An extra camera from straight behind Mac here would’ve been invaluable
What glove is Mac wearing?
Great vid
U should always be trying new things
On the range hopefully
For example , I went back to baseball grip.
After 3 rounds, went from 11 handicap to a 9.
Finally confident hitting ball.
Not saying baseball grip works for you but try different things, especially as an amateur. Not everything pros are doing on tour or on range will work for u.
does anyone have a good phone shot tracer app that i could try. ive been looking for one for a long time.
Very cool. If I try incorporate any of this into my game it will be a complete disaster.
What hat it Mac wearing? I need one of those.
I haven’t been gone that long, when did Ashton Kutcher join the group? And I had no idea he was a lefty and so a good at golf! Welcome Ashton😜!
This question might be best asked in a "Monday Live", but since I can never seem to participate live, I'll ask it here: Is a "low spin" ball "less workable" / "more forgiving" (whichever way you prefer to think about it) than a "high spin" ball? In my mind, if a ball spins less overall given the same delivery, it would mean less curvature as well. Would love to know your thoughts and experience. Thank you!
Balls spin more or less the same off a driver (check out old videos on the channel, they’re within a few hundred rpm’s of each other), so the biggest concern would be with mid irons with regards to curvature. Low spin balls do spin noticeably less, but that spin affects many things. For instance, less spin at the same launch and speed (probably) means more distance. If the ball travels further in the air, it has more time to go off line, so less spin could actually lead to more terrible
mac !! where is your maple leafs hat. 😆
I learned how to hit big sliders growing up. Kind of a necessity when you're regularly in the right-hand trees 😂😂
Should have him come on and shape different iron categories. Show the differences between a blade or a “players distance” iron, etc.
Set the camera behind him so we can see his swing path away from and back down. Then show the shot from the side so we can see his body movement better
Ian, I'm not sure if I am comfortable with showing you my slinger.
🤣
Bubbas brother ????
Lol I thought he was going to say like 10° in-to-out / out-to-in.... nope waaaay to low🤣😂
Can't wait for Mac to sling it on the PGA tour.
That's mental. If I go over 2 degrees in to out path my coach goes crazy. I can't imagine the hooks I would hit if I was over 20.
Shaping?! I’m still trying to hit the damn ball straight.
If it curves the same way the same amount each time, you can play great golf!
Straight shot.....hardest shot in the game.
You guys should do a breakdown video of Phil’s comment that’s circulating on every social media platform. I.e., “wedge in the morning goes 120.. ball warms up, grain into you.. ball sitting up on grass or a tee, the CG is below ball, goes farther.” Etc etc.
104 mph 6 iron
The over exaggerating of it is a good way for a player to learn the feeling of working the ball but these are more like Instagram shots lol..the room for error is massive compared to a controlled fade or draw.
I miss the old theme music
I will give this a go the next time that I am on the range, but I have a fear that it will either melt what little brain cells that I have left, or will destroy my 7 Iron🤦♂🤦♂🤣🤣
TXG really loves their lefties
Now let’s see Paul Allen’s swing