This Movie Will Change You: Birdboy The Forgotten Children
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
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00:00 Introduction
01:41 Skillshare
03:32 Mouse daddy and son
07:24 Dinki
11:02 Sandra
12:15 Zorrito
14:02 Zacharia
16:13 The Brother and the clock
19:04 Birdboy
24:56 The ending - Розваги
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I know this is an old video but I wanted to say your artwork is really nice. I didn't expect to see mob from Mob 100. Keep it up man.
Just wanted to say how much I appreciate that you don’t stray away from saying phrases like “I wasn’t sure”, “it confused me”, and “I don’t know”… so many people always think they know everything and the meaning of ALL a movie’s metaphors. But you put a massive amount of context and meaning without making your thoughts the end all meaning. You leave much of the meanings up to our own interpretations. It’s a rare and awesome quality lacking in many UA-camrs. Thank you for that.
I had this same exact thought, I really appreciate this !!!! 🎉❤
Yes thank you for making this comment, this is something I really enjoy about his content. I can always appreciate when someone is open to admitting that they don’t know everything.
Fr, this is why I’m subscribed to him he keeps it real, doesn’t act like he’s smarter than everyone else, humble and entertaining as fuck as it should be
Personally I see Sandra's voices as Intrusive Thoughts. Intrusive Thought are not when you want to jump on a pool with clothes on or color your hair at 2am. These are Impulsive thoughts. (there's been a big misuse of the term recently thanks to tiktok and twitter).
What you see in the movie, that's what they are. They can be super violent, awful and cruel and MANY people have them, but we never want to act upon them. They are symptoms of anxiety, depression or disorders like that. So Sandra not acting upon these thought is just the most realistic thing in this movie, cuz is what people live through every day, everywhere.
yea, people going "I let my intrusive thoughts win, lol" and showing them buying like, 2 6packs of cola or some shit always felt lowkey kinda disrespectful to me.
cause if I let my intrusive thoughts win, (sometimes I feel them so strongly that I almost feel myself losing control and doing them) mostly ones that would fuck with me, but sometimes it's a bad one like "push your friend into moving traffic" and I have to fight that thought and urge down.
it's kinda disrespectful to then see people go "haha, my quirky intrusive thoughts won!!! yayy!!! new dog!!!" when every day I feel like if I lose control for even a fucking second, someone's gonna get hurt, or possibly killed. This isn't in the "oh man, I'm so cool, I could kill people" way. it's fucking mentally destructive.
my intrusive thoughts have informed me how easy it would be to commit mass poisonings, my intrusive thoughts have made me aware how easy it would be to kill my cats with my bare hands, my intrusive thoughts continuously are telling me to hurt, violate, or kill people, people who I love and cherish, sometimes when I pet a dog or cat, my brain will go "wow, their spine sure is fragile, imagine how it would feel to snap it" and I can feel my body sometimes moving as though it wants to do that, and I have to exert conscious pressure and presence over my body to stop it.
and then that means I have to work out the mental fuckery of not HATING myself because I can't stop thinking these things, the mindfuckery of examining whether or not I can claim to be a good person when I'm constantly thinking about this shit, the fear of EVER getting drunk, cause what if I lose control? What if I can't stop myself?
in conclusion, absolutely agree with you, and it's kinda offputting to see people quirkifying something that causes me daily anxiety and makes me question the very moral fiber of my being.
The stigma of "person having intrusive thoughts = person bad" needs to go. Just recently, I was labeled as toxic and unbearable just for saying that I'm lucky to have a partner who loves me unconditionally that he doesn't budge when I tell him, "I'm sorry but I had thoughts of wanting to kill you earlier."
My s.o. knows I've had a rough childhood: abuse from my mom, outcasted by teachers and other students, bullying, etc. I've lost many friends and never got to properly build a solid relationship. I've struggled for so long to unlearn toxic behaviors that it breaks my heart knowing that others just believe that people like me are hopeless.
But I'm not too hurt though. I know how far I've come, and I know it's easier to just let people believe what they want to than trying to convince them otherwise.
I struggle with this as well, I keep it as well hidden as I can but recently it resurfaced badly again.
For me the stigma has to end first in myself! ^^')
That's the impression that I got from Sandra, too. I get them sometimes and they can be hard to live with.
it's awful. when i'm doing the dishes and i have to put away a knife, i hold it as far from my body as i possibly can because i keep thinking i should stab myself or something. i've never been suicidal in my life, and yet almost all of my intrusive thoughts revolve around harming myself or putting myself in dangerous situations, although i do get the occasional thought of harming others. it's genuinely terrifying and i hate when people use the term "intrusive thoughts" to describe getting a large instead of a small at an ice cream place or something. if i let my intrusive thoughts win, i'd be dead.
Your trend of finding undiscovered gems is perfect.
Heavily agreed.
Very much so
Appreciate Bionic for spreading the word of less known movies that have nice artstyle
I refuse to believe a real person is running this comment.
Not only a nice artstyle but also meaningful stories .Mr white
I love the fact that this film is hand drawn.
@@Flinch9000 belief is the first step to acceptance
So, I have schizo effective disorder, which is bipolar schizophrenia.
I think your explanation of Sandra is perfect. The only change I’d say is, when the voices get extreme and very mean/obscene, typically it happens during episodes - which can either last 10 mins, or 10 days. But either way, it was nice hearing and seeing this as someone fighting against the voices and not letting it torment them and control them, no matter how bad it gets- we push through it. Idk it was nice. So thank you for that.
If anything what he said basically was "yeah, that is happening in her head, but her actions are still kind and that is what defines her more." When the voices are telling her to hurt her friend, she chooses to hug him, that kind of things.
Your diagnosis doesn't define you. Your actions do. How you go about life trying to not hurt others do.
@@cidevant002 precisely! honestly the most comforting thing I’ve ever heard on someone explaining it.
@@cidevant002 also, thank you so much. 🥺❤️
I just re-read your comment and realized you are also being kind _towards me_ as well, and *not* just _generalizing_ .🤭🥰☺️🫵🏻🤌❤️
I love that Sandra didn’t have a detailed backstory like some of the others. I feel like it reflects how anyone can have these bad thoughts no matter where they came from, and it doesn’t set up any particular person as the “type” of person to have them.
yes! something that one of my psych professors in college said something that stuck with me, “addiction and mental illness don’t have a ‘type’ anyone can suffer from either no matter their background, race, culture, age, gender, sexuality, religion, etc. _anyone_ can be a victim of these disorders.”
ofc there are some people who can be more susceptible to some disorders than others due to genetic predisposition but in reality literally anyone can still have mental illness
I think the brother being a dog is how the family sees him, someone who does as he is told, can be ordered around and the fact he can't speak is probably because he emotionally can't speak up for himself. The struggle when he says enginner is an actual inner struggle with what he really wants vs. what's expected of him (what his family wants)
that actually makes a lot of sense!
I think that maybe instead of schizophrenia with Sandra, it could possibly be about intrusive thoughts instead (something that usually happens with things like OCD, anxiety, depression etc.) since auditory hallucinations/voices with schizophrenia aren't always violent, but intrusive thoughts are usually violent or bad in some way and since she never acts on them it'd make sense, you never act on intrusive thoughts
As someone with little intrusive thoughts i thought the same, i definitely think thats what she’s suffering from
Never expected Birdboy to die, but I especially didn't think the kids would fail to get away. Really upset me at first
the scene where birdboy gets shot, really shows how fast things can change. one second you're alive, happy and way to the bright future, the other you're dead or disabled.
that's why his death impacts viewer so bad.
Alberto Vazquez also has 3 short films: Decorado (2016), Homeless Home (2020), as well as Birdboy (2011), the basis of the film.
He also has "Sangre de Unicornio" which is the origin of Unicorn Wars
“Yea, my art isn’t great.” Shows amazing sketches.
In apocalyptic movies, I don’t get any emotions when it comes to tragic and dark moments but when I see Birdboy, where the mouse were fighting and killing over copper. As it shown in the end that one lost a son, while the other lost a father has gotten me.
I think Sandra's issues are less a concrete diagnosis like schizophrenia amd moreso showing intrusive thoughts. Firstly, because i don't think it helps people dealing with schizophrenia to associate them with "desires to hurt others" because more often than not, they themselves are victims of violence and not perpetrators.
I think it shows her anxieties and intrusive thoughts, thats shes so worried about being someone who would hurt others, that she has to fight inner voices telling her to do it.
Always happy to see Birdboy get more attention, It's a shame that it didn't get as popular as Unicorn Wars
I think Sandra is less schizophrenia and maybe more just impulsive thoughts? Like the call of the void (drive off the cliff, jump, etc) is just one category, there are other impulsive thoughts like “get naked”, “scream,” “punt that kid,” and more aggressive ones
Sandra's violent thoughts are something that I live with. Every time I am slightly irritated, I have the urge to kill or just attack the source of my irritation. All I do though is just shove the feelings down or aim them at something safe.
the family portrayal is so sad and so accurate for many families. mental health and identity being ignored for the sake of coming across as a proper, perfect family pulls families apart so often but it's just not talked about and everyone pretends like the family doesn't struggle with this at all, eventho it hurts most of the family members secretly.
Think the bird demon is everyone’s fear of birds being evil finally coming true because of how they’re treated. Some innocents will act exactly as people expected because they can’t take it anymore there’s only so much patience one can have. And the insinuation that the perfect child is a dog that can’t even talk back or express themselves properly is all types of fuqed
I think the brother might be more simple in the sense that he's always been the favorite and has never had to apply himself or really do anything hence why he can't speak or really do much. He's just been pampered and praised which would also go back to that whole perfect family thing cause those are always depicted as having a perfect child. Least that's my idea with that character. My family was religious, and despite my brother being a druggy, thief, etc, he could never do wrong in my dads eyes and never got punished by him. He was able to get away with so much just from being my dads favorite.
That ending is so bittersweet, what a beautiful piece of art
The aesthetic of this movie is like an Indie horror game. Love it.
sandra is definitely dealing with intrusive thoughts, coming from someone with ocd, they can get pretty horrible
Congrats on working on your art skill! It's never too late to do art, you'll do great!
I don’t like that you said your art isn’t that good, you’re making art and that is good. also it shows that you’re grasping fundamentals really quickly and that you care to work on them, which a lot of beginner artists like to skip to get to the fun part. can’t wait until you share more of your art and thank you for sharing it
It seems like the creator has a theme with Zorito and Tubby, as they're both kind and selfless characters who are hurt because of their virtues.
I relate to Sandra. I was diagnosed with homicidal tendencies but while being diagnosed they assured me and my parents that they doubt I will ever give into these thoughts. I've managed to dead with them and I barely get those thoughts anymore but I used to have horrifically violent and vidid dreams of me hurting people and I would wake up content and happy. Again. I don't have these dreams anymore I went to therapy and figured out why I had the thoughts and what not and how to deal with them and realise that they're not necessarily deep desires but coping mechanisms
I just want say thank you for posting this today. I just lost my dad a little over a month ago, and I was having a bad day. I've been binging your videos just to keep my mind occupied, and your videos bring me a lot of joy.
We as a community are here for you, I lost my dad a little over a year ago, the loss is unmeasurable no words can describe the feeling, bionic pigs videos helped me as well, I just want to say I feel for you and hope you know there is support for you in places you cannot see, I’m sorry for your loss
Stay strong, I am so sorry for your loss
my parents are Muslims and tbh the thought of them (along with our community) finding out I'm an atheist terrifies me to no end.
I can relate to this
And this is why we need a better society and help
Yea! You finally checked out Birdboy the Forgotten Children! One of my favorites mature, adult animated movies. Another more mature animated stop-motion movie you should also check out is Anomalisa and also The Breadwinner which is one I don't hear a lot of people talk about. But it's such a beautifully well done, sad but emotional good animated movie.
I took this out on dvd like 2 years ago from a library in ohio. Was one of the best films ive watched to date. So nice to see you covering it!
classic Ohio moment
I’m so glad you reviewed this movie, it’s one of my favorites!
Sadly no one I know personally would enjoy it just as much as I do (both my mom and bf fell asleep during the movie which was depressing to me), so seeing people online talk about it always makes my day.
I’ve been drawing for years, to see how much skill you have in such a short amount of time is amazing, please keep drawing and practice as much as you can! Never throw away any of your drawings, even the ones you don’t like at the time, you’ll look back at them and see your growth it’s an amazing feeling, I’m so happy you’ve started drawing please continue drawing art and share with us your journey!!
I love this lesson that the movie teaches, because the only other piece of art/media that teaches a similar lesson is one of the story arcs in Calvin and Hobbes, when the two main protagonists go to Mars. Originally, they left because Earth was too polluted, but after they both get startled by a martian, they learned that traveling to another planet (and messing with a species of another planet) wasn't going to help anyone and resolved to return to their own planet, because there's only one Earth.
(After having read Calvin and Hobbes a lot as a kid, every once in a while something would remind me of those comics lol.) ^^
5 seconds into the video and I'm sorry but I had to pause....the art is so beautiful, I need to watch this before your review. I already know I'm gonna like it if you're covering it as you've yet to miss. But *THIS* looks like a whole experience to get first hand!
this became my new favorite movie because of how close to home it strangel feels.
I'm so glad that you talk about underrated/unique animated movies. It's so fun being introduced to animated movies that aren't for kids, yet are so beautifully animated.
Also ur doing great with ur art! Keep up the good work and keep practicing! Never give up :)
You should watch a movie called “Samson and Sally” it’s a danish children’s cartoon that deals with some pretty heavy/dark themes and has stuck with me ever since I watched it. I think you would like it :)
If you haven’t reviewed “Beau is afraid” please do… my favourite movie this year that I felt was so out there and every shot was drawing me in closer ,to finally get shocked/left speechless at the end
0:50 Oxenfree music in the beginning hits perfectly
Honey wake up, The Pig has found another masterpiece!
Excuse me what? Starting with "unicorn war" then a cute like animation quickly falling into something uncomfortable is wild
10:23 i love that u distinguished that it's the "toxic" religious families. Some ppl hear "religious" and automatically think they're bad.
Love the mob drawing
Bearfoot gen I thinks it’s called, but also the original Japanese Godzilla from 1954. Steve reviews did a video on it but since you’re doing more videos like this I think you’d like it.
Guess you should see decorado next to finish up this trilogy of sorts. That one is quite trippy
PLEASE TALK ABOUT THE MOVIE "ITS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL DAY"
YES MY FAVOURITE FILM IM SO HAPPY YOU ARE COVERING IT
Oh my GOD! In the intro...is that the soundtrack of Oxenfree
omg yes! i knew i wasn't the only one to recognize it! it's The Beach, 7am
Yippee! About damn time you covered this one!
I love this short and your delve into it is wonderful. But as an autistic person, comparing Dinki's brother to a nonverbal autistic child made me a bit uncomfortable... autism isn't a severe disorder. What disables us is the world around us that isn't built for our brains and actively turns against us. Autistic people are just like any other person.
More often than not, Autistic children are not the favourite child. They are often shunned, and condescended to, and treated like lesser people... when they are far more capable and understanding than people perceive. Comparing an autistic child to a barely coherent, humping, creature that is shown to be more animalistic than the others is a bit... uncomfortable.
my thoughts as well. I understand why he might've made the non-verbal link+ autism is a term most people know. But whether the creator of the film intended it to be nonverbal autism, developmental disorders in general etc, I think it might not have been done in the best way. While yes, everyone in the movie is an animal, all of them behave like humans. so it feels very icky to me that (again, if that was the intention) the mentally disabled character acts like an animal and is treated almost like a pet. No hate to Bionic, Im sure he didnt mean anything bad with it but I do think its important for people to know that this can have an ableist connotation/be an ableist trope
@@mossy1476that's honestly why I think he was wrong with that interpretation, it makes a lot more sense to me that it would be about a favorite child that was "trained" to be this way as opposed to something offensive like someone with intellectual disabilities being conveyed as a dog. There's just nothing in the text that supports it, and it says nothing about mental disability, so why would that be included? Makes much more sense that it would be about a child whose been raised to "not think for themselves", and how often the kids who become the most trained can also become the favorite, despite not being able to grow into their own people, just being their parents pawn, easily threatened by anybody that could take their spot (hence him killing the clock).
Clicked on this as soon as I saw the notification!!
I haven't watched the video yet but I loved this movie when I first saw it and I was eagerly awaiting the day when you would review this movie. I always find it really interesting to hear your interpretations and things that I missed.
Also I made some progress in the video, thank you for not drawing any stereotypes in this video or harmful commentaries. I was really scared that you would in this type of movie portraying mental illness, poverty and religiousity and plenty of other sensitive topics that plague our world.
love the very faint risk of rain music in the backround: Who can Fathom the Soundless Depths
Another beautiful video ❤ thank you!
You seriously need more views. Love your shit
I have a list of movies I wanna check out thanks to your videos. This looks like a beautifully sad but thought provoking watch for sure. Definitely wanna check this one out. Thanks for sharing, pig!
Wish all the best with ur art journey, Pig! Its hard but not without its joys!
This doesn't really have to do with the vid, but man it's crazy that I've already been a fan of this man for three years, and he is finally so close to a million subs! Great stuff man! Your content is always very thoughtful, and sensitive when it comes to these kinds of issues, very refreshing.
I actually think that those little voices for Sandra are intrusive thoughts and impulses. Sometimes they are good but you mainly go with the bad ones because they are the loudest. You play what if senerios or if you are younger then they are more in control so you think they are good ideas when they arent. This is my least because ive had those thoughts like im sure everyone else does but I also am more settable to them. But as ive grown i can think abit more and determine if they are good or not even still I give in from time to time when i shouldnt, like if im financially unstable. I see Sandra battling with those and yea they linger from time to time but she pushes them aside because she knows those actions are wrong.l or put her in trouble.
Oh good more people are going to discover this movie ❤️ this quickly rose to my top absolute favorite movies. It hits me in ways I can’t quite describe.
Your videos do me the service of keeping me grounded these movies you go over I would never find myself and I greatly value them
Always enjoy discovering new films with your videos and hearing your interpretations.
This movie looks painful and beautiful to watch. I like how you brought this attention. Great commentary my man 👌
SOOO happy you watched this
this movie is easily in my top 10 of all time. Such an interesting movie that I'm so glad a youtuber as big as you did a video on
I'm following you from Egypt , i really appreciate your effort in summerizing all these shows to us ❤
i just love when you upload, it honestly makes my day. keep it up 👍🏽
So glad you're covering this film, its so underrated. Btw its never too late to learn something new.
I really love the RoR background music.
I love Birdboy sm! I’ve even drawn fan art for it :) (btw, I love your art! It’s never too late to start drawing)
I agree with your analysis of the brother in that he is treated like a pet because thats how the family sees him. Especially seeing how he is wearing what looks like a luchador mask and hesitated while flexing his arms before he forcefully said engineer, as if his Dad was waiting on him to say the right answer for him. His inability to speak up for himself plays well into him wearing the mask and why he killed the clock. If the clock represents lost time in this movie, then I feel like the brother hates that clock the most because he will never get his time back for trying to be the engineer pet rather than who he really wants to be.
I saw this movie at a hotel I stayed at, pretty crazy experience.
Shoot this looks cool, I’ll definitely give it a watch
Thank you so much for reviewing this movie. I was hoping you would after unicorn wars.
I’m so happy people are Finally finding this movie ITS SO GOOD
Ngl the voices reminds me quite a bit about my own OCD and all those super fun intrusive thoughts that are always makin me imagine awful shit 😊
I know its horrible, but fun fact, intrusive thoughts are the opposite of what you believe, so don’t worry,
@@_.izxy.edits.stuff._ the portrayal in the movie is pretty apt too since most intrusive thoughts I get are of doing terrible things to myself and others I love but I know they're just my OCD, they still suck pretty hard though. But I appreciate that :)
you should think about selling your art. Either on its own canvas, or even via prints or merch. Think like teespring, redbubble, etsy, etc. I am sure you would be able to sell a good bit of it, especially with your following. Just a random suggestion. Also, you make videos where you deeply discuss the animation and ART aspect of each of these movies. So you delving more into art as a hobby makes a ton of sense for a creator such as yourself.
You should cover big fish! Lots of different stories all coming together, very underrated
I personally like this movie better than unicorn wars. While unicorn wars is the better production wise, I like bird boy because of the themes and the world building
I love your videos!!! ❤❤❤❤
as someone with OCD I immidiatley thought of Intrusive Thoughts and Harm OCD when you mentioned Sandra...now I think I have to watch this omg
I remember this movie. I was bored and was browsing my local libraries media app and saw this as one of the free movies you can watch, it was deeply unsettling and i might watch it again soon
Adding to my movie list ✅
I found this years ago at a store and when I watched it I was silent for an hour after…it made me feel sick at first but I also found it so fascinating
11:13 this can honestly umbrella over OCD. Ocd comes with a lot of intrusive thoughts for some people that are really distressing. They aren’t dangerous people, of course. They will never act upon these impulses. But they’re there. Staying things.
Sandra might have OCD. I realized I had OCD when I learned it can also be constant intrusive thoughts that cause you a lot of distress, such as violence in her case. We don't wanna act on these thoughts, they're quite literally the opposite of what we want. OCD can be a lot more than needing things to be clean or neat, and it's a very hard thing to live with
This is a bit random, but Pig, since youre getting into art, I highly suggest the channel Draw Like a Sir. He’s great and his tips are super helpful for beginners and pros alike
I was hoping you would do this one
I feel that the spanish title "the forgoten children" fits better
It’s still called that in English.
@@jakedebruin2246 didn't know, thanks. I've alway known it as psiconautas: los niños olvidados
Anyone else remember watching this as a kid but not that it was a deep traumatic animation about incredibly difficult topics
More than just nature, I feel birdboy is an allegory for how I personally feel inside.
Hey bionicpig there is a movie just like the secret of kells i think you’d like called “Song Of The Sea”
Omg I love that movie! I nearly cried watching it
I love trading bag movies because there's so many. But finding out about good movies to watch is even better.
Indie tour movies are always better.
I was waiting for Pig to do a review on this lol
when sandra hugged the other kid instead of pushing them off the cliff 🥺
From someone who comes from a very religious family growing up / focused into it and to practice it was tried to be modeled by its standards I can 100% say that this is all facts and im an adult now and my parents are still influenced by it
Believe me some horrible shit was done to me if I didn’t reform , I ended up not and you can imagine
Re: Zorrito, it didn't escape my notice that he's the sweetest and gentlest character in the movie, but is constantly accused of being shifty and sly *because he's a fox.* I took that as a commentary on prejudice and stereotypes, and just how incorrect those ingrained beliefs can be.
I don't see anyone else appreciating the Risk of Rain 2 music towards the end
I'm not sure if you've seen this, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on speed racer (the 2008 movie)