10 things that didn't live up to the hype in F1

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  • Hype is hard to avoid in Formula 1. There’s always someone or something being tipped to make a big impact and achieve great things, and as we all know, success in F1 is never that simple.
    We’ve picked out 10 things in F1 that fell victim to being overhyped, and tried our best to explain why they didn’t deliver.
    Of course, there are far more than 10 things we could have included here, so make sure you let us know in the comments what would be on your list.
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  • @christopherortiz9330
    @christopherortiz9330 2 роки тому +789

    "...Before selling up to Red Bull. Since then, it's done okay." LOL nice one

    • @darudy
      @darudy 2 роки тому

      The race make clear everyday that them dislikes Red Bull. Of course they deny it, but it is so obvious for anyone with two brain cells

    • @patrickcesalestajodywibowo741
      @patrickcesalestajodywibowo741 2 роки тому +16

      Haha🤣, done okay or don't okay, it's hilarious one indeed

    • @HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva
      @HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva 2 роки тому +13

      "10/10 it's okay"

    • @levantjbean2712
      @levantjbean2712 2 роки тому

      Still a dirt bag team

    • @Deatgodx
      @Deatgodx 2 роки тому +30

      @@levantjbean2712 RB is a top team now what are you talking about ?

  • @SeanMather
    @SeanMather 2 роки тому +563

    The high deg tyres are one of the worst decisions F1 has made. I don’t want drivers cautiously conserving tyres, I want them to shred the thing’s chasing each other down

    • @AnonymousCaveman
      @AnonymousCaveman 2 роки тому +31

      Maybe they should go back to having two tire compounds to choose from like they used to do.

    • @nathanw9770
      @nathanw9770 2 роки тому +18

      "bono my tyres are gone"

    • @agent0066
      @agent0066 2 роки тому +10

      Yep. High deg tyres are the reason I don't bother watching most f1 now and why I'll never buy Pirelli tyres again.

    • @Stryker_-qd4nq
      @Stryker_-qd4nq 2 роки тому +26

      The issue is that f1 thought fragile tyres would create more chaos.
      The issue with Canada 2010 was that the tyres degradation was slightly random and chaotic, which is damn near impossible to replicate on command

    • @RACECAR
      @RACECAR 2 роки тому +4

      @@Stryker_-qd4nq Kinda ironic when you think about it, they got the chaos they were aiming for.

  • @dylanf1
    @dylanf1 2 роки тому +555

    so many drivers weren't given the proper opportunity, i'd say kamui kobayashi was super talented and unfortunately got replaced by gutierrez but he should have been given a chance at at least 1 mid-top team.

    • @BigManPattty
      @BigManPattty 2 роки тому +253

      You’ve been getting those kobayashi shorts in your recommended haven’t you?

    • @aidanmagee2269
      @aidanmagee2269 2 роки тому +137

      @@BigManPattty 😂😂😂 fuckin everyone is gettin them

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 2 роки тому +61

      @@BigManPattty Yes... Kobayashi revival for some reason

    • @NicotineRosberg
      @NicotineRosberg 2 роки тому +46

      Hello Kobayashi. How many accounts do you have mate. You are everywhere

    • @TheBrass18
      @TheBrass18 2 роки тому +26

      @@BigManPattty lol exactly! My UA-cam feed is filled with kamui overtaking content.

  • @felipeleonam96
    @felipeleonam96 2 роки тому +194

    In 2000's was said the Toyota's budget was almost as high as Ferrari's and yet they never delivered a winning car through almost their entire run in F1. And when they managed it in 2009, they were caught by the crisis of 2008 end decided to leave F1

    • @gandalf_thegrey
      @gandalf_thegrey 2 роки тому +16

      Japanese consturctors just cant catch a break from stuff that makes them leave the sport haha

    • @MrSniperfox29
      @MrSniperfox29 2 роки тому +25

      Toyotas problem was they tried to use the same strategy that worked in their other activities, not understanding that F1 was different and moved at a different pace. Having to wait for a board meeting to decide whether or not you can alter your sidepods is not going to work

    • @viniciuscosta7018
      @viniciuscosta7018 2 роки тому

      Trulli at best, I guess

    • @lionelanthonydasilva5283
      @lionelanthonydasilva5283 2 роки тому +1

      Nnnnnnnbn

    • @bbbbbdddbbbbbdb
      @bbbbbdddbbbbbdb 2 роки тому

      their spending was due to building a team from scratch no?

  • @angryhooman3154
    @angryhooman3154 2 роки тому +330

    Schumacher's comeback was not a failure. He help to build the Mercedes AMG Race team into a championship winning team. He was not there to win championship.

    • @T16MGJ
      @T16MGJ 2 роки тому

      Oh yes it was. Widely reported as a failure in the UK F1 media and supported by many of their unbiased "Get Schumacher" fanatic types so must be kosher. Like that other German after him, they will never forgive both those Germans for stopping their deserved chosen ones from success. To this very day and ongoing!
      Oh whatever happened to good old British sense of fair play . Oh I remember now...

    • @NGFN
      @NGFN 2 роки тому +40

      exactly, he helped develop the car and a lot of things were tried on his car, so he was never gonna be as fast as Rosberg.

    • @NicotineRosberg
      @NicotineRosberg 2 роки тому +15

      Tell me how he helped? 🤔 genuine question

    • @loopje
      @loopje 2 роки тому +4

      Cap

    • @rohanalias9053
      @rohanalias9053 2 роки тому +43

      @@NicotineRosberg he tests out the innovations and changes they introduce to the car during development...and gives feedback so that they can change it to improve the car

  • @GranDaddo
    @GranDaddo 2 роки тому +174

    McLaren + Honda + Alonso = they really played on my emotions. What a disaster. I believe Seidl and Key would do it differently and maybe, just maybe McLaren would be now in RB's place.

    • @muhidnaveed2617
      @muhidnaveed2617 2 роки тому +1

      seidl and key would have not been able to make the honda engine better. maybe the chassis and aerodyamics but they woud have still retired loads

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks 2 роки тому +1

      Welp, that disaster is gone and they're still a disaster again now.

    • @GranDaddo
      @GranDaddo 2 роки тому +14

      @@muhidnaveed2617 it was not just Honda, but the way they coordinated with each other. One of biggest differences after switching was communication Honda with RB. At least that was what Honda said.

    • @dwaynehicks6838
      @dwaynehicks6838 2 роки тому

      RB have a long way to go to catch up to McLaren's overall success , but it would be great to see them back at the front.

    • @Wonderkid44
      @Wonderkid44 2 роки тому

      Mclaren havent build a decent car in more than a decade even with hondas power unit they wouldn’t be any good.

  • @GreenHornet553
    @GreenHornet553 2 роки тому +35

    One hype train that was absolutely disastrous that should've been on this list was Toyota's go around in F1. A team that poured so much in terms of resources, time, effort, and so on into that works team only to be derailed by Japanese auto manufacturer's own hubris and stubborn approach of doing things "the Toyota way" rather than learning to adapt and listening to people on the ground in the team.

    • @zombiedodge1426
      @zombiedodge1426 2 роки тому +4

      That’s an interesting one because they weren’t a *bad* team, comparable to McLaren-Honda or BAR’s first season. It seemed like they were always on the cusp of breaking through but just couldn’t do it. Too bad their final car - completed just as the team shut down - never got to race.

    • @GreenHornet553
      @GreenHornet553 2 роки тому +7

      @@zombiedodge1426 Not just that but it's also interesting because of how they always got in their own way. For example, the team was forced the corporate board in Aichi, Japan to switch from Michelin rubber to Bridgestone because Toyota brass wanted to partner with the Japanese company over the French one. This is was despite the fact that the car was designed around using the Michelin tire compounds than Bridgestone ones and the team in Germany strongly being against the change to the harder Bridgestone tires.

    • @zombiedodge1426
      @zombiedodge1426 2 роки тому

      @@GreenHornet553 They also inexplicably set up shop in Germany instead of England.

    • @RACECAR
      @RACECAR 2 роки тому +4

      @@zombiedodge1426 If I recall, isn't that the exact same shop in Cologne that they operated their Le Mans effort from 1998 and 1999 and do now with their current WEC effort?

    • @dylansmit3883
      @dylansmit3883 2 роки тому +2

      @@RACECAR It is, but Toyota Team Europe was originally set up for WRC operations in 1979.

  • @MassEffect1988
    @MassEffect1988 2 роки тому +174

    Montoya at Williams was fantastic 👍 such an aggressive driver

    • @darudy
      @darudy 2 роки тому +23

      He was awesome! Losing to ferrari back in the day was no shame whatsoever.

    • @xaf0163
      @xaf0163 2 роки тому

      incredible driver, incredibly unpleasant as well. montoya was a cunt, but you gotta respect his race craft. he was outright phenomenal

    • @MrBritishComedy
      @MrBritishComedy 2 роки тому +1

      Crashed into other people all the time. Yes, he was fast, but you gotta finish a race first before you can win a race, let alone a championship.

    • @princeendymion9044
      @princeendymion9044 2 роки тому +2

      He just lacked the chassis and the drive. If he had a better mindset and worked harder on applying himself to F1, it probably would've gotten closer to winning, and if his 2003 car was better and his 2005 car didn't keep trying to blow up, I'm certain he would've won (2003 more so, 2000's Kimi was very very fast)

    • @MDE_never_dies
      @MDE_never_dies Рік тому

      When the car actually finished it was almost always a podium or win.

  • @Athrun82
    @Athrun82 2 роки тому +13

    Here is one: The Arrows years under Tom Walkinshaw. He bought the team, even bought the name rights back from Footwork, hired Damon Hill in 1997 but despite one highlight in Hungary never delivered. Also fell victim to the "nigerian prince scheme" (sorry I could not resist) and later failed due to bad business practices despite having some strong sponsorships.

  • @sandalphoncpu
    @sandalphoncpu 2 роки тому +56

    For people who thought AM should be on the list, the list only consisted of projects that had already ended due to their downfall. AM is still in F1, had solid plans to improve for the next 5 years. The managers are still getting their heads around their new role. Who knows, maybe AM would make a radical concept in their next big upgrade or next year that would make them a front runner. Either way, it’s too early to decide after only 2 races.

    • @magnustan841
      @magnustan841 2 роки тому +8

      2021 wasn’t massively brilliant for them either. P4 in 2020 to P7. I want to believe in Aston, I want to see this brand resurrect itself from years of debt. However, it’s almost one flop after another, I really wish they can turn it around

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks 2 роки тому +2

      Agree but so far they're not looking to be on the right track Rather than Mercedes or RBR, they appear to be heading down the Jaguar or Lotus route, I doubt we'll see the Aston name in F1 by 2026.

    • @Choopremo
      @Choopremo 2 роки тому +2

      As long as Daddy Stroll’s ego is high, the team aint going nowhere

    • @MDE_never_dies
      @MDE_never_dies Рік тому

      Well they're off to a flying start this year

  • @fredogknopfler
    @fredogknopfler 2 роки тому +85

    The walrus Williams may have had a bad performance, but I unironically love how it looks.

    • @raisedahell5165
      @raisedahell5165 2 роки тому +2

      me too man

    • @fredogknopfler
      @fredogknopfler 2 роки тому

      @@raisedahell5165 idk why, it might be because it was in the F1 2004 game, but god damn, I see that car, I click like.

    • @dmarshall5148
      @dmarshall5148 Рік тому

      Me too, I have an RC Willy Walrus

  • @PavlosLepaul
    @PavlosLepaul 2 роки тому +48

    What I would add on my list? Some options, but probably some of them wasn't such hyped as mentioned in video, but what I have in my mind:
    BRM P15 with V16 engine
    ATS (italian one) from 1960s when some engineers and drivers left Ferrari to create new team
    Andretti at McLaren in 1993
    new teams in 2010 (mostly Virgin and Lotus maybe not something big, but there was some hope for them)

    • @ryklatortuga4146
      @ryklatortuga4146 2 роки тому +2

      but you have to admit that 1.5 litre supercharged V16 sounded pretty sweet.

  • @Darude453
    @Darude453 2 роки тому +9

    Things I would add to the list:
    -KERS in 2009
    -Cangoroo TV for the fans at the circuit (does anyone remember? 😂)
    -Hockenheim’s track redesign to make it more attractive for F1
    -The shootout qualifying format
    -Sebastien Bourdais’ appearance in F1

  • @soundscape26
    @soundscape26 2 роки тому +45

    I know it benefits from being more recent but it's hard to beat the McLaren-Honda revival of 2015. Furthermore coupled with Alonso's return to the team.

  • @thomasknights9461
    @thomasknights9461 2 роки тому +56

    Heikki Kovalainen and Vandoorne came into F1 with huge expectations and neither did anything of note.
    If BAR is on the list, then surely Toyota HAVE to get a mention
    Also JEAN ALESI!!! Labelled as a future World Champion and looked mega at Tyrell, went on to get 1 lucky race win and never got close to the hype

    • @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
      @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 2 роки тому +27

      I'd argue they were at the wrong place at the wrong time. They were both demolished by two of the best drivers of all time when they were still very inexperienced, and barely had a second chance (Kovalainen) or no second chance at all (Vandoorne)

    • @thomasknights9461
      @thomasknights9461 2 роки тому +5

      @@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 If you want to be in F1 you have to compete against the best, being beaten 18-0 in qualifying for Vandoorne was poor.
      Kovalainen was at Renault when their form dipped, but even against Fisichella he didn't shine

    • @halofreak1990
      @halofreak1990 2 роки тому +13

      @@thomasknights9461 Vandoorne wasn't helped either by the typical McLaren politics, nor the fact that he always got the worst parts, since Alonso 'deserved' only the best.

    • @oj7177
      @oj7177 2 роки тому +15

      Alesi also had quite a lot of bad luck. He came in 91, when ferrari started its downfall, then left in 95 in exchange of schumi, when ferrari was the best of the rest. Michael took with him the best engineers and mechanic at benetton, and the team couldn't provide him a car as great as the 94 or 95 one, so he still was in team which was the best of the rest
      He is basically like alonso from 2013 onwards. Great driver with a lot of talent, but made poor decisions and had bad luck with the cars

    • @ThePapaja1996
      @ThePapaja1996 2 роки тому

      vandoorne has atleat won Fe

  • @sgtnatko
    @sgtnatko 2 роки тому +12

    Mansell's 1995 stint with McLaren would've been my pick that wasn'ti included on this list.

    • @pacman_birthmark
      @pacman_birthmark 2 роки тому +9

      They probably couldn't 'fit' it in.

    • @sgtnatko
      @sgtnatko 2 роки тому +2

      @@pacman_birthmark I see what you did there :)

  • @vinnyf1
    @vinnyf1 2 роки тому +22

    Renault failed everything around 2011, except… that… livery… what a beauty, can’t we get that back?

    • @gigsawsoljier1408
      @gigsawsoljier1408 2 роки тому +1

      they were in transition to lotus...wernt helped by sacking heidfeld mid season

    • @80nodrog
      @80nodrog 2 роки тому +1

      It reminded me of the John Player Lotus livery

    • @vinnyf1
      @vinnyf1 2 роки тому +1

      @@80nodrog indeed! One of the best livery’s!

    • @MDE_never_dies
      @MDE_never_dies Рік тому

      ​@@gigsawsoljier1408 Indeed, wtf was that? The guy was outdoing Petrov too when he was kicked (Hungary I think it was).

  • @phoenixboyz
    @phoenixboyz 2 роки тому +18

    I have a feeling current Mercedes small side pots is like Walrus BMW Williams those days, good concept, but doesn't really work in practical

  • @RACECAR
    @RACECAR 2 роки тому +10

    Suddenly, the distinctive noise on the Lotus makes alot more sense in retrospect. Sure the cars with the Exhaust-Blown Diffuser had a distinct noise in general, but the Lotus in particular as it flew past at full speed always sounded just that tiny bit different to my ears then the others did.

  • @jgagnier
    @jgagnier 2 роки тому +9

    I was ecstatic when BAR tried to run two different liveries. I am of the opinion that F1 cars should be identifiable at a quick glance; we shouldn't have to squint to see tiny numbers or try to make out what helmet it is (especially since they've grown less graphic and more detailed). We shouldn't have to try and guess which Alpha Tauri has gone off track, or if it's Leclerc or Sainz who managed to overtake... which Red Bull?
    It needn't be as different as BAR - a different rear wing and airbox would do the trick, or an additional stripe, or huge, visible numbers.

  • @JustinW2980
    @JustinW2980 2 роки тому +18

    It's still nuts to think the dominant Mercedes traces back to that chaotic 1999 BAR season.

    • @zombiedodge1426
      @zombiedodge1426 2 роки тому +11

      Older than that. BAR was founded by taking over the venerable Tyrrell team.

  • @albrechtjohnj
    @albrechtjohnj 2 роки тому +11

    Montoya crashed into Kimi at the USGP in 2006 at Indy on lap 1 by the 2nd corner. That might also have contributed to his early exit from McLaren. Remember that McLaren was carrying the flag for Mercedes-Benz at the time.

    • @T16MGJ
      @T16MGJ 2 роки тому +5

      McLaren was Mercedes in all but name then. McLaren-Mercedes ... Mercedes engines, funding and paying drivers wages.

  • @Marcoz588
    @Marcoz588 2 роки тому +39

    Given this starts around 1996/97 with Prost, how is the “Mastercard Lola” project not here! 😅 To make it a dozen, Cristiano Da Matta was very much hyped as well.

    • @dwaynehicks6838
      @dwaynehicks6838 2 роки тому +11

      Most of the people watching this probably weren't watching F1 then , but great call with Lola , what were they like 20 seconds off the qualifying pace and got done on the 107% rule ?

    • @gamefan56
      @gamefan56 2 роки тому +1

      Given how late they decided to enter and build their car for 1997 along with their questniable sponsorship deal with Mastercard, I think most people saw them as underdogs rather than hyping them up.

    • @dwaynehicks6838
      @dwaynehicks6838 2 роки тому +1

      @@gamefan56 they still should be on this list , it was a total joke , although in fairness the car sponsorships scheme did look good .

    • @pacman_birthmark
      @pacman_birthmark 2 роки тому

      I'd suggest USF1's 2010 entry too 😂

  • @JP-qq6ji
    @JP-qq6ji 2 роки тому +7

    The majority being from late 90s to early 00s shows what a great period it was, despite the results showing Schumacher won everything.

  • @tmb8807
    @tmb8807 2 роки тому +10

    I remember the hype around Jaguar in winter ‘99, especially as Stewart had been pretty good that year. Disaster. Looked more like BAR than Stewart.

  • @davidelliott5843
    @davidelliott5843 2 роки тому +10

    The loss of active suspension had to be a huge error from the FIA.

  • @Aunini
    @Aunini 2 роки тому +2

    Watching a lot of races from 1994-1996, there were a lot of comments about how good Frentzen was supposed to be (favorable comparisons to Schumacher included) so I imagine him winning just one race at Williams qualifies here

  • @eamonahern7495
    @eamonahern7495 2 роки тому +3

    I was a fan of those fragile pirelli tyres because it did make racing more interesting and we had 7 different winners in the first 7 races in 2012.

  • @FRTLBN
    @FRTLBN 2 роки тому +34

    I think Toyota´s massive investment and failure, would deserve a place in this category and video.

  • @thisisfaka
    @thisisfaka 2 роки тому +15

    BAR guys were right just like 20 years ahead of their time 😅

    • @mindujiman
      @mindujiman 2 роки тому +1

      Just 10, and then 15

  • @MolonyProductions
    @MolonyProductions 2 роки тому +11

    I'd say Toyota's recent entry deserves a mention.

    • @Srga91
      @Srga91 2 роки тому +3

      Especially for their debut season in 2002. For god's sake, they finished behind a heavily underfunded and underpowered Minardi! Toyota spent over 500 mil. $ a season and couldn't win a single race in 8 years, that's pathetic!

    • @RACECAR
      @RACECAR 2 роки тому +2

      @@Srga91 That's because much like Ford, they threw alot of money at it without understanding what they were throwing their money at (though with Ford it was just sheer ignorance, whereas Toyota it was more through arrogance). Much like Chrysler, they basically got in their own way.

    • @Srga91
      @Srga91 2 роки тому

      @@RACECAR I know, they were thinking a big budget is all they need to succeed. It also seems like Lawrence Stroll is now making the same mistake with Aston Martin.

  • @rcurtis7583
    @rcurtis7583 2 роки тому +6

    Top for me has to be Mclaren Honda back in for 2015. Dismal. Alonso and Vettels stints at Ferrari both worth a mention too imo.

  • @SilverfoxThe
    @SilverfoxThe 2 роки тому +1

    The FIA Tyre Specification. It’s obvious Pirelli could design a better tyre if they were allowed to.

  • @t3h51d3w1nd3r
    @t3h51d3w1nd3r 2 роки тому +1

    I remember jaguar saying they were going to win races and challenge for championships straight away before they competed, right then I knew they weren’t going to be successful, even one of my friends said they are throwing a lot of money at it, I said to him there’s more to f1 than just spending money, Ferrari has one of the biggest budgets and have been in f1 since the start but even they get beaten

  • @ContractCAD
    @ContractCAD 2 роки тому +2

    What about Nick Wirth, Virgin Racing and their CFD designed car that was going to show Adrian Newey how it's really done 😄😄

  • @antr7493
    @antr7493 2 роки тому +3

    How about that Elf car with four wheels in the front? 😁

  • @connorappleton1945
    @connorappleton1945 2 роки тому +4

    You could've flown the red arrows from the Silverstone air show into the gap of the nose of that Williams

  • @benediktwindisch2778
    @benediktwindisch2778 2 роки тому +2

    The Jaguar never could keep up but I loved the racing green design always hoped for them to improve as a kid and Irvine is an awesome driver as well what a shame

  • @zombiedodge1426
    @zombiedodge1426 2 роки тому +4

    Good video but it suffers from recency bias. Michael Andretti at McLaren, and Porsche’s catastrophic return to F1 with Footwork/Arrows, should have been included.

  • @BoxInThisLapVR46
    @BoxInThisLapVR46 2 роки тому +25

    Jaguar and Aston Martin both raced in British racing both have had massive PR both have a lot of money invested in em both have had movie liveries hopefully Aston Martin doesn't become Jaguar

    • @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
      @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 2 роки тому +5

      Both have/had Ferrari drivers who came close to winning the title with the scuderia

    • @brkicaleksandar11
      @brkicaleksandar11 2 роки тому +1

      Hopefully Asston falls apart soon, someone competent should own that team

    • @T16MGJ
      @T16MGJ 2 роки тому +1

      @@brkicaleksandar11 You hope for that?

    • @brkicaleksandar11
      @brkicaleksandar11 2 роки тому +1

      @@T16MGJ The Strolls shouldn't be near F1

    • @TheBrass18
      @TheBrass18 2 роки тому +6

      @@brkicaleksandar11 hate on stroll Sr. all you want, but atleast do some research on him lol. He has a history of turning failing companies into profit making corporations.
      He is proper petrol head and owns a race track. He is not some owner who doesn’t care. The amount of investment he is putting ( new HQ, wind tunnel, R&D) is impressive. They will be successful or at the sharp end of the grid within 10yrs.

  • @zephyrod7307
    @zephyrod7307 2 роки тому +6

    BAR being actually very good in the 2nd half of 2003 gets no mention…rip

    • @gigsawsoljier1408
      @gigsawsoljier1408 2 роки тому +2

      BAR did get P2 in 2004....even with sato as it's no2

  • @BraddersVee
    @BraddersVee 2 роки тому +2

    This video feels more like a '10 bad times for drivers/teams' than 10 things that didn't live up to the hype.
    Would have been a more interesting video if there were more tracks and rule changes that didn't go well such as the original trip to Las Vegas, or the Yeongam circuit never living up to the hype of being a full blown street circuit.

  • @michaelbrown297
    @michaelbrown297 2 роки тому +2

    Schumacher did have some really bad reliability in fairness. The wheel not being put on correctly in China 2012 (?) cost Merc a 1-2. Plus he had moments in quali where he outperformed the car something fierce.
    But yeah. He was well past his prime. But everything considered he still wasn't as bad as some make out. Especially given that Rosberg and Lewis weren't as far apart as people thought they were. Between 2010-2012 we had no idea where Rosberg was.

  • @larsjj2794
    @larsjj2794 Рік тому +1

    7:53 Schumi went to Mercedes to help build a good team and create a great car. Which they did, and Brawn and Wolff have said this on multiple occasions. Even Hamilton said this recently.
    The Schumi-Mercedes years where never meant to be their championship winning years.

  • @kenlykkeslett7501
    @kenlykkeslett7501 Рік тому +2

    Frentzen at Williams never got close to it's full potential!

  • @iansargent196
    @iansargent196 2 роки тому +1

    I now remember Vitaly Petrov was an F1 driver.

  • @chippiethegreat681
    @chippiethegreat681 2 роки тому +1

    Degrading tyres didn't live up to the hype?
    The 2011 - 2013 seasons were some of the most entertaining F1 seasons of recent years with a massive upsurge in overtaking*. The tyres were now a relevant part of strategy since drivers who pushed the tyres too hard had to pit more often.
    *yes I know DRS played its part but the overtaking dropped in 2014 and 2015 when they made the tyres more durable.

    • @oj7177
      @oj7177 2 роки тому

      Perhaps they were referring to on track overtakes

  • @JCCyC
    @JCCyC Рік тому

    The Lotus-Pratt&Whitney turbine car. The 6-wheel Tyrrell. Alesi at Ferrari. Capelli at Ferrari. James Hunt at Wolf. Brabham-Alfa Romeo. The Caesar Palace circuit.

  • @15DEAN1995
    @15DEAN1995 2 роки тому +1

    i wonder how that renault forward exhaust would work with the current cars? i doubt its legal but i wonder if it wouldve worked

  • @pt4643
    @pt4643 2 роки тому +47

    2022 Mercedes is overhyped

  • @jimutjayadev
    @jimutjayadev 2 роки тому +2

    Unpopular opinion: The walrus williams is the best "looking" f1 car ever.

  • @StreetComp
    @StreetComp 2 роки тому +1

    Alonso to McLaren was a mess - there’s nothing worse for a race driver than a rookie coming in and being as fast as you and Lewis Hamilton was exactly that and Alonso did not take it well to put it mildly lol

  • @mafiousbj
    @mafiousbj 2 роки тому +1

    Imagine if Prost would have kept the Honda engines and had Trulli and Panis all year round in 1997 (rather than a Japanese paid driver and then switching to inferior engines)...could have been the midfield over achiever for many more years!

    • @gamefan56
      @gamefan56 2 роки тому +1

      True,but sadly the entire Prost GP deal was built on support from the French governent supporting Prost so sadly keeping the Mugen Honda engines over going with Peugeot was never an option.

  • @ThunderApache1604V
    @ThunderApache1604V 2 роки тому +2

    Matt Gallagher from WTF1 watching this with his heart in his mouth after jumping on the Ferrari bandwagon.

  • @ImInLoveWithBulla
    @ImInLoveWithBulla 2 роки тому +1

    Does it annoy anyone else how Pirelli prints its logo flat on the tire instead of letting it curve with the tire radius? I know it’s a small niggle. But it really does irk me.

  • @steveemser7861
    @steveemser7861 2 роки тому

    I think Schumacher was there to have fun, not to win. I also think that Schumachers biggest strength was removed from F1 then. He was a genius in strategies including refuelling because he always made the opposite to his opponents in order to win

  • @alex9033
    @alex9033 2 роки тому +2

    If BAR's debut season isn't on the list I'm gonna be upset.
    (Watches video)
    I'm not upset!

  • @summerfarmestates
    @summerfarmestates 2 роки тому +1

    the 1971 lotus 56B never worked as expected

  • @ianriggers
    @ianriggers 2 роки тому +2

    I remember when Michael Schumacher back to F1 in 2010.

  • @drewgriffithsfm
    @drewgriffithsfm 2 роки тому +1

    I’d also nominate Damon Hill at Jordan as not living up to the hype. The 1996 world champion joined Jordan for 1998 and despite a poor start for Jordan in 1998, the appointment of Mike Gascoygne as technical director seemed to turn things around with Jordan moving from bottom of the championship to 4th plus a 1-2 finish in Belgium, so there was a lot of hype around the Jordan 199 the following season with Damon being joined by Heinz-Harald Frentzen and Damon being seen as a possible championship contender. However, the season never got going for Damon. He never got on with the new and harder Bridgestone 4 grooved tyres and while Frentzen did win races and was a realistic contender for the title until his retirement at the Nurburgring finishing the season with 54 pts, good enough for 3rd in the championship, Damon could only muster 7 points and a 12th place finish in the championship (the same points and position he achieved with Arrows in 1997), scoring points on just 4 occasions, failing to finish 9 of the 16 races including voluntarily retiring the car at his final Grand Prix in Japan.

  • @ASJM91
    @ASJM91 2 роки тому

    2:08 Mercedes non existing side pod is the new Williams front wing

  • @Srga91
    @Srga91 2 роки тому +1

    Toyota needs to be up there as well. They had the biggest budget and possibly the best wind tunnel of all the teams and didn't achieve anything, besides a couple of podiums. I still can't believe they finished dead last behind MINARDI in 2002!
    I'd change 'BAR' to 'Jacques Villeneuve at BAR', because after he departed they showed that the team had potential, finishing 2nd in the WCC in 2004 (once Honda started to get more involved). Classic case of oversell and underachieve, starting with claiming they'd win the championship in '99 (with an underpowered engine 🤣🤣).

  • @Sem5626
    @Sem5626 2 роки тому +1

    geez what are you trying to say...
    putting this out just before the new albert park

  • @matticusrenwood
    @matticusrenwood 2 роки тому

    McLaren-Honda still makes me sad to think about. Senna is and always will be my favourite driver, and McLaren-Honda with that iconic Marlboro livery (specifically the MP4/5) will forever be the GOAT car for me.
    Complete opposite ends of the spectrum, the highest of highs, and the lowest of lows. But in the 10s I was much more a Red Bull guy than a McLaren guy, so I have to hand it to Honda for being undeniably the most improved engine supplier of the turbo hybrid era. Completely different beast in the RB16B than it was in the MP4-31

  • @der1cho
    @der1cho 2 роки тому

    6:37
    "Hey, Renault, that is not the right way to race."
    "But I took a right turn?"
    "That is your left."
    "Hah, lols"

  • @SmirkyWaters
    @SmirkyWaters Рік тому

    I was wondering when the obsession with tyre deg in F1 started. Well now I know. Happened at a time where I was not following F1 and I didn't remember it being so crucial watching it as a kid. Wish the FIA got rid of the Pirelli monopoly and stopped controlling tyres options so closely. They should focus their regulations to safety purposes only, and let the teams instead pick their tyres and strategies freely. Wish they at least got rid of the rule forcing teams to use 2 different types of compounds in a dry race, that just introduces artificial element to the strategy and makes it about the rules rather than the racing.

  • @zackdunn3398
    @zackdunn3398 Рік тому +1

    I remember being absolutely psyched when Vettel moved to Ferrari, and I fully expected him to build that team and become a new Schumacher… but Ferrari’s bullshit never ends. If the tifosi could get their head out of their asses, they’d win every year.

    • @pauls5745
      @pauls5745 Рік тому

      you know, I don't wish Ferrari on anyone. they can build a great car and have excellent drivers, but the team on a whole doesn't race very well. they're likely to fumble half of their pitstops, and goof on pit strategy when the cars do hold up

  • @Erik_The_Viking
    @Erik_The_Viking 2 роки тому +1

    Jaguar was a complete disaster. Irvine was right about the "management". BAR was a disaster, but then ended up becoming BrawnGP and eventually Mercedes. To think Honda was that close to a championship.

  • @oftengone
    @oftengone 2 роки тому

    This is the best F1 channel on UA-cam imo

  • @DaveHogg
    @DaveHogg 2 роки тому +3

    I enjoyed every mediocre minute of Eddie Irvine's career after he stole Mika Salo's first career win and then still didn't win the championship.

  • @joshm6884
    @joshm6884 2 роки тому +1

    Might have to remake this when AMR pulls out!! 😭

  • @kenlykkeslett7501
    @kenlykkeslett7501 Рік тому

    What about the zero sidepods Mercedes came up with? During testing everyone was all like "Oh here we go again. The season is over now!"
    There are quite a few faces smeared with yolk and eggshells around.

  • @VarunAgrawal11
    @VarunAgrawal11 Рік тому

    BMW with Robert Kubica had a lot of hype in 2008 which never quite materialized.

  • @ShineStreet
    @ShineStreet 2 роки тому +1

    I was expecting to see Aston Martin on this list.

  • @Chunky_dunky
    @Chunky_dunky 2 роки тому +2

    Montoya was so underrated at Williams

    • @T16MGJ
      @T16MGJ 2 роки тому

      He and along with Nigel Mansell two of the most entertaining "Anything can happen" F1 drivers in the known Universe.

  • @SirMsuni
    @SirMsuni Рік тому

    The 2022 season can be added to the list as well.

  • @Stimm002
    @Stimm002 2 роки тому

    Everything ever in every pre season testing, especially if its mentioned by the pundits!

  • @ENovaM
    @ENovaM 2 роки тому +16

    Schumacher was never meant to fight for titles when he returned with Mercedes, he was just there to have fun & develop the team.

  • @stevemcdonald2648
    @stevemcdonald2648 2 роки тому

    I guess tyres are complicated, but it is unbelievable how a key performance component like that can be left to hold back the performance of F1 cars (and F1 racing) for so long. All everyone has ever wanted to see is a flat-out fight, yet tyre saving has been dominant for such a long time.

    • @stevemcdonald2648
      @stevemcdonald2648 2 роки тому

      @@valerierodger7700 I agree Valerie, it would be nice to see strategy employed whilst cars are racing at their maximum. The dull period of a race where cars are waddling around on high fuel protecting their tyres has never been a highlight, yet when everything speeds up for the last 20 laps we actually see a race. Look at Albon last weekend on the hards. He was going faster each lap as the fuel burned off. It sounds like he enjoyed it, and I can say it was a great strategy to watch. Hopefully we see more teams make use of this durable option.

  • @gekonz1129
    @gekonz1129 2 роки тому

    I still have a feeling that Renault just stopped developing the R31 car because of the sudden absence of Robert Kubica, who was scheduled to drive this car in 2011, but couldn't due to his rally accident in pre-season. So it might also be a third factor. So far we've seen two good results of the car that was basically built with intention to let Kubica drive it and who knows, maybe if he had some better results if not the accident, then maybe the Renault team would develop the car further more during the season?
    Just speculating, you know.

  • @ThePhoenixWylde
    @ThePhoenixWylde 2 роки тому +3

    Could you imagine a second Schumacher dominance period if someone had made him more assured that the three years grinding concepts (blown front wing aka double DRS and FRIC anyone) would've lead to a strong 2013 car and then a head start against other teams into the V6 era.

    • @oj7177
      @oj7177 2 роки тому +1

      I don't think he would have been able to fight for the title. Rosberg already beat him 3/3 years, and michael was 40+. Adapting to completely new cars is hard, especially the older you are. Every driver, even the ones with the most longevity (lewis, michael, alonso, kimi) start to get out of their primes when they are around 35 years old
      It'd be like saying "imagine if prost stayed with williams after 93"

    • @chamindujanith6337
      @chamindujanith6337 2 роки тому

      @@oj7177 Prost was great in 1993. What do you mean?

    • @oj7177
      @oj7177 2 роки тому

      @@chamindujanith6337 that he was already in his late stages of his career, and age would have been one of the declining factors. Look at schumi, kimi, hakkinen, vettel, alonso, and also a bit lewis. They aren't in their primes anymore, and it's hard to think they'd be able to adapt to new cars and perform at 110% for 20+ races year after year. They can from time to time prove their value, but being consistent is the hard part
      That's why i don't think schumi would have been able to win other titles even if he had stayed at merc for 2014-16

    • @chamindujanith6337
      @chamindujanith6337 2 роки тому

      @@oj7177 Prost actually beat Hill 14-2 in qualifying and 99-69 in points in 1993. That's one of his best years even though it was the best car. Especially considering Hill challenged for championships in 1994, 1995 and 1996. Another good example is Mansell in 1992 who also dominated to win the championship that year in his final full-year. Beat Patrese 14-2 in qualifying and 108-56 in points. Prost and Mansell are two of the rare drivers who hadn't declined when they left the sport.

    • @oj7177
      @oj7177 2 роки тому

      @@chamindujanith6337 i didn't say they retired when they had a decline, what i'm saying is that even just 1 year can make a big difference in the driver's performances. I don't think they would have been able to keep that level for other 3 or 4 years. Lewis in 2020 had his best year stat wise, but in 2021 we could see he had a bit of a "slump"

  • @1955DodgersBrooklyn
    @1955DodgersBrooklyn 2 роки тому +4

    toyota???

  • @ryandowning2956
    @ryandowning2956 2 роки тому

    0:48 top 10 last names ever

  • @lgndk11r
    @lgndk11r Рік тому

    Interesting that two of the top teams today - Red Bull Racing and Mercedes-AMG F1 - had dubious pasts as the mediocre Jaguar and BAR, respectively.

  • @SiVlog1989
    @SiVlog1989 Рік тому

    Jean Alesi and Gerhard Berger, Benetton 1996. When Michael Schumacher joined Ferrari in 1996, Jean Alesi and Gerhard Berger moved the opposite way to Benetton, who with Schumacher had just recorded their first championship double the previous year (winning 11 out of the 17 races in 1995). Along with how Schumacher would do at Ferrari, there was huge interest in how Alesi and Berger, both still highly rated at the time, would perform with the reigning Constructors Champions. However, the combination didn't work and the car concept that Schumacher had worked to 9 wins the previous year didn't suit the driving styles of either of them. The result was a huge step down with the team scoring 0 wins for the first time since 1988, and worse, although more reliable than Schumacher's Ferrari, the team lost second in the championship to Ferrari and were over 100 points behind Williams.
    As a matter of fact, for the rest of their time in F1, Benetton would only record 3 pole positions and 1 win (Berger took pole and the win at Hockenheim in 1997, Alesi took pole at Monza in 1997 and Fisichella claimed a fortunate pole in Austria 1998, by being the last driver to set a lap time as the weather conditions, wet at first, improved and he was last to complete his fastest lap)

  • @kilekun
    @kilekun 2 роки тому +1

    Mclaren has had repeated problems with drivers they're not enthused about. They also did to JPM what they did to Checo later.

    • @nathanjansen2695
      @nathanjansen2695 2 роки тому

      At least they now have 2 good drivers

    • @juanin200
      @juanin200 2 роки тому +3

      @@nathanjansen2695 Montoya and Perez were also good drivers, but the cars they drove, as well as the one Norris and Ricciardo drive this year, were just not good enough

  • @lyleclarke619
    @lyleclarke619 2 роки тому

    02:43 sounds like Aston Martin at the moment

  • @Gonza5501
    @Gonza5501 2 роки тому +1

    Drive to Survive - Season 4

  • @whassupg89
    @whassupg89 2 роки тому

    I wanted so many of these things to turn out good!

  • @TerribleFire
    @TerribleFire 2 роки тому

    If you want to get great racing... ban race engineers, telemetry and any tool used to predict scenarios. You need to make things unpredictable.

  • @trob1173
    @trob1173 Рік тому

    Jaguar: How not to manage an F1 team. One of the best liveries ever though.

  • @michaelwallace1329
    @michaelwallace1329 2 роки тому

    And that lantern jaw kraut? You couldn't tame a ski slope 😁

  • @SilverScarletSpider
    @SilverScarletSpider 2 роки тому +2

    f1 is going to lose thousands of fans if the 2022 ferarri ends up becoming overhyped

  • @jayman81424
    @jayman81424 2 роки тому

    The whole McLaren forcing Honda into the size zero thing is just not true. McLaren asked for it, Honda said yes, and then it was dogshit.

  • @BeeBee3_Adventures
    @BeeBee3_Adventures 2 роки тому

    I thought you would have included this years sidepodless Mercedes, shocking car at the moment , bring back the side pods please.

  • @marshmallowwolf3976
    @marshmallowwolf3976 2 роки тому

    2:12 "Mid season"?? that looks pretty 3/4 season to me. Theres no need to round-down when mid season was 4 races prior to them changing the nose with only 5 races to go. I know im being OCD but its little things like this that bring the videos down in quality

  • @stroervor
    @stroervor Рік тому

    I was pretty confused when I didn't see Montoya for first time in 2006. I was 12 and doesn't care much about sport news

  • @highlander5521
    @highlander5521 2 роки тому

    I don´t now...i like this "Walrus Nose" from Williams, in my opinion this car looks good.

  • @GregzVR
    @GregzVR 2 роки тому +2

    Please do a video on the amount of things - sponsors, engines, drivers etc, that McLaren's Ron Dennis 'took' from Williams.

  • @gangoffour6690
    @gangoffour6690 Рік тому

    As an American fan I must say Michael Andretti in 1993 🙄. I was actually expecting something from him.